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Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by Nobody: 6:38pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
I was prophetic! I even heard that when those from the north and the yorubas are in the mosque during jumaat, that the northern people excuse themselves from the yorubas in the same mosque under the guise that the yorubas are not true muslims - I was like holy shítballs! That reason alone would force the religion to diminish! Christians, welcome anyone, anytime, anybody from anywhere. Take a look at what is going on in Burma, they now massacre muslims there. And tartar9 says the religion is growing, in what way abeg. Tartar9 give your life to christ and have peace. Islam, muhammad and his jinns has blinded you! |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by truthman2012(m): 6:39pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
[quote author=Empiree post=40432757][/quote] When no more defence muslims resort to abuses. Is that e-jihad? Smh !!! What is your take here? https://www.nairaland.com/2764068/muhammad-didnt-see-virgin-heaven |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by Humblebloke(m): 6:42pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by Humblebloke(m): 6:43pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
Religion politics..... What do the jewish myth believers want from their arabian *counterparts* |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by tartar9(m): 7:09pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
Samunique:do you know what proof is,where is the proof? |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by truthman2012(m): 7:36pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
tartar9: What is your take ? https://www.nairaland.com/2764068/muhammad-didnt-see-virgin-heaven |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by aob2882: 9:26pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
truthman2012: You created topic without facts. Who ruled by COMPULSION christians or muslims? LUKE 19:27(KJV)But those mine enemies, who would not that I should reign over them, bring them hither and slay them before me.’” Allah said, Quran 2 vs 256 ﴿لاَ إِكْرَاهَ فِى الدِّينِ﴾ (There is no compulsion in religion), meaning, "Do not force anyone to become Muslim, for Islam is plain and clear, and its proofs and evidence are plain and clear. Therefore, there is no need to force anyone to embrace Islam. Rather, whoever Allah directs to Islam, opens his heart for it and enlightens his mind, will embrace Islam with certainty. Whoever Allah blinds his heart and seals his hearing and sight, then he will not benefit from being forced to embrace Islam.'' ﴿لاَ إِكْرَاهَ فِى الدِّينِ قَد تَّبَيَّنَ الرُّشْدُ مِنَ الْغَيِّ﴾ (There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the right path has become distinct from the wrong path.)'' So where did you get you fact from. You cannot quench the light of God with your own mouth and pen. Please just keep on written till you realize the truth 2 Likes |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by aob2882: 9:43pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
(Quran - Surah Al Furqan 63-76) "The true servants of Allah do not associate partners with him ..." They Balance there spending !!! "The true servants of Allah pass their nights in worshipping and remembering Him as much as they can" Allah's slave replies peacefully "Nor they kill whom Allah has given sanctity & they do not fornicate" "They Balance their spending !!!" "They walk on the earth with dignity, serenity and humility, not with arrogance and pride In these verses attention is being drawn to the two patterns of character and life: first of those who had accepted the Message of the Holy Prophet and were following it, and the second of those who persisted in the ways of ignorance. The prominent characteristics of the true Believers are: They walk on the earth with dignity, serenity and humility, not with arrogance and pride. (“Walking humbly” does not mean walking like a weak or sick person, nor does it imply the gait of a hypocrite who walks ostentatiously to show humility or fear of God. According to Traditions, the Holy Prophet himself used to walk with firm, quick steps.) If the ignorant people insult them with bad words, they do not respond likewise, but they forgive and overlook, and say nothing but good words. (This is what the Messenger of Allah did: the more ignorant the people, the more patient he would be.) The true servants of the “Merciful” do not believe in “vengeance”, though they may have to deal with ignorant people who behave rudely and insolently towards them. If they happen to come across such people, they wish them peace and turn away. (The same has been expressed in Surah AI-Qasas: 55, thus: |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by truthman2012(m): 9:50pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
aob2882: Go through this for your education: https://www.nairaland.com/2755356/muslims-it-true-there-no |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by Nobody: 9:54pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
aob2882: Your book,(Quran) needs to be really looked into
Now read here http://m.christianpost.com/news/isis-using-churches-as-torture-chambers-forcing-christians-to-convert-or-be-killed-145814/ Now ask yourself, these things we say here and what happens in the media are they two different things? Or is the Quran used by ISIS different from the one u use? 1 Like |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by malvisguy212: 10:05pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
aob2882:the bible verse you provide is a parable, give us the numbers of people Jesus kill if there is any!! the Quran not only calls Muslims to submit to Allah, it also commands them to subdue people of other religions until they are in a full state of submission to Islamic rule. This has inspired the aggressive history of Islam and its success in conquering other cultures. 1 Like |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by Nobody: 10:08pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
malvisguy212: ....and the perils it brings them now. |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by aob2882: 10:17pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
malvisguy212: You see that is how the always says (parables) at times they will tell you that holy spirit is not dwell in you that is why cannot understand the teachings of the bible. 1 Like |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by truthman2012(m): 10:21pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
aob2882: True na ! |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by aob2882: 10:26pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Allah says, because the son of Adam killed his brother in transgression and aggression, ﴿كَتَبْنَا عَلَى بَنِى إِسْرَءِيلَ﴾ (We ordained for the Children of Israel...) meaning, We legislated for them and informed them, ﴿أَنَّهُ مَن قَتَلَ نَفْساً بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ أَوْ فَسَادٍ فِى الاٌّرْضِ فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعاً وَمَنْ أَحْيَـهَا فَكَأَنَّمَا أَحْيَا النَّاسَ جَمِيعاً﴾ (that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.) The Ayah states, whoever kills a soul without justification -- such as in retaliation for murder or for causing mischief on earth -- will be as if he has killed all mankind, because there is no difference between one life and another. ﴿وَمَنْ أَحْيَـهَا﴾ (and if anyone saved a life...) by preventing its blood from being shed and believing in its sanctity, then all people will have been saved from him, so, ﴿فَكَأَنَّمَا أَحْيَا النَّاسَ جَمِيعاً﴾ (it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.) Al-A`mash and others said that Abu Salih said that Abu Hurayrah said, "I entered on `Uthman when he was under siege in his house and said, `I came to give you my support. Now, it is good to fight (defending you) O Leader of the Faithful!' He said, `O Abu Hurayrah! Does it please you that you kill all people, including me' I said, `No.' He said, `If you kill one man, it is as if you killed all people. Therefore, go back with my permission for you to leave. May you receive your reward and be saved from burden.' So I went back and did not fight.''' `Ali bin Abi Talhah reported that Ibn `Abbas said, "It is as Allah has stated, ﴿مَن قَتَلَ نَفْساً بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ أَوْ فَسَادٍ فِى الاٌّرْضِ فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعاً وَمَنْ أَحْيَـهَا فَكَأَنَّمَا أَحْيَا النَّاسَ جَمِيعاً﴾ (if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.) Saving life in this case occurs by not killing a soul that Allah has forbidden. So this is the meaning of saving the life of all mankind, for whoever forbids killing a soul without justification, the lives of all people will be saved from him.'' Similar was said by Mujahid; ﴿وَمَنْ أَحْيَـهَا﴾ (And if anyone saved a life...) means, he refrains from killing a soul. Al-`Awfi reported that Ibn `Abbas said that Allah's statement, ﴿فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعاً﴾ (it would be as if he killed all mankind. .) means, "Whoever kills one soul that Allah has forbidden killing, is just like he who kills all mankind.'' Sa`id bin Jubayr said, "He who allows himself to shed the blood of a Muslim, is like he who allows shedding the blood of all people. He who forbids shedding the blood of one Muslim, is like he who forbids shedding the blood of all people.'' In addition, Ibn Jurayj said that Al-A`raj said that Mujahid commented on the Ayah, ﴿فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعاً﴾ (it would be as if he killed all mankind,) "He who kills a believing soul intentionally, Allah makes the Fire of Hell his abode, He will become angry with him, and curse him, and has prepared a tremendous punishment for him, equal to if he had killed all people, his punishment will still be the same.'' Ibn Jurayj said that Mujahid said that the Ayah, ﴿وَمَنْ أَحْيَـهَا فَكَأَنَّمَا أَحْيَا النَّاسَ جَمِيعاً﴾ (and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.) means, "He who does not kill anyone, then the lives of people are safe from him.'' |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by malvisguy212: 10:30pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
aob2882:the parable begin in verse 12: 12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return. Even if we are to agree with you just for argument sake ,that this verse is not a parable,then it was this unname " certain nobleman" kill his enemies. Read the complete story here https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+19&version=KJV 1 Like |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by aob2882: 10:37pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
Almighty Allah have given Muslims the Divine Revelation. PLEASE GET A COPY OF QURAN AND SUBJECT IT TO TEST YOU WILL SEE THAT IT GIVES SOLUTION TO ALL MANKIND PROBLEM. "Do they not consider the Quran with care? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much contradiction." -An-Nisa:82 1. No historical Falacies 2. compliance with modern day science 3. jurisprudence 4. guide to the mankind 5. miracle of miracle 6. it still remains in its pure pristine purity for over 1400 years 7. No revised version of Al-Quran (KJV,RSV,GOOD NEWS VERSION etc..) |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by malvisguy212: 10:39pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
aob2882:you say " whoever kills a soul without justification" answer this question, what right is a man have to take a life ? You have the right to kill me as long as I reject muhammed allah and islam. 1 Like |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by malvisguy212: 10:45pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
aob2882:how do you explained this error: the Quran claims that one night, God took Muhammad to the "al- Aqsa" mosque is in Jerusalem: Quran 17:1 "Exalted is He who took His Servant by night from al-Masjid al-Haram to al- Masjid al-Aqsa, whose surroundings We have blessed, to show him of Our signs. Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Seeing." - The Muslim army conquered Jerusalem in 637 AD and the al-Aqsa mosque was completed in 705 AD. The problem with the above passage in the Quran is that Muhammad died in 632 AD, which was 5years before the Muslim army reached Jerusalem and 73 years before the al- Aqsa mosque was built. |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by Samunique(m): 11:21pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
tartar9:Not surprised, i was expecting this kind of response as usual !!! I know ur hypocrisy and fanaticism will not allow to see so many horrible acts of wickedness and untold evil being perpetrated by ur brothers in faith which we all know that, they are simply following the example of ur prophet and that of the Islamic texts. Looking for proofs? Go study quran 9 from vs 5 down ward and compare it with what al-qaida, al-shabab, isis, bokoharam and many Islamic jihadists are doing after shouting Allah akbar then come back and tell me u have not see any proof that Islam is dangerous to human existence. Though i hate to say this but TRUTH must be told and ur denial of the obvious has compelled me!!! |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by aob2882: 11:35pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
malvisguy212: I will INSHA ALLAH respond to what you post CONTRADICTION IN THE BIBLE 1. Exodus 33:20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. Genesis 32:30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved. Exodus 24:9-10(9) Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel: (10) And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness. Exodus 33:11 And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle. 2. Matthew 27:1-5 1 When the morning was come, all the chief priests and elders of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death: 2 And when they had bound him, they led him away, and delivered him to Pontius Pilate the governor. 3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, 4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that. 5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. Acts 1:16-18 16 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus. 17 For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry. 18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by aob2882: 12:50am On Nov 27, 2015 |
3. How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark? Genesis 6:19 (19)And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female. (20) Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive. Genesis 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. 4. Is the law of Moses useful? Yes... 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: No... Hebrews 7:18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof. 5. What was Jesus instruction for his disciples? Matthew 28:10 Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me. John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by tartar9(m): 7:38am On Nov 27, 2015 |
Samunique:stop talking nonsense,where is your proof? |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by malvisguy212: 8:29am On Nov 27, 2015 |
aob2882:1.God didn't literally talk face to face with Moses, for no man can see God's face and live (Exodus 33:20). This is a figurative expression intended to convey the intimacy of their relationship that is captured in the phrase, "AS A MAN SPEAKETH UNTO HIS FRIEND" (verse 11). Exodus 33:11 intimates not only that God revealed himself to Moses with greater clearness than to any other of the prophets, but also with greater expressions of particular kindness than to any other. He spake not as a prince to a subject, but as a man to his friend, whom he loves,and with whom he takes sweet counsel. The communications made by God to Moses were not by visions, ecstacies, dreams, inward inspirations, or the mediation of angels, but with familiarity and confidence with which the Divine Being treated his servant. 2.judas hang himself, in that order, the rope broke first. Ask yourself, from were did judas fell headlong ? Judas hanged himself in the potter’s field ( Matthew 27:5), and then, after his body decayed and bloated, evidently the rope broke, and he burst into pieces on the land of the potter’s field ( Acts 1:18-19). |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by Samunique(m): 8:34am On Nov 27, 2015 |
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Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by truthman2012(m): 11:17am On Nov 27, 2015 |
aob2882: Here is your answer: https://www.nairaland.com/2511448/contradictions-quran |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by Horus(m): 2:17pm On Nov 27, 2015 |
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Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by truthman2012(m): 2:45pm On Nov 27, 2015 |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by plappville(f): 3:02pm On Nov 27, 2015 |
malvisguy212: They know this yet they will ask you to provide a verse that back isis or boko killing innocents. As if they are blind eyes or do not understand thier own book.. |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by plappville(f): 3:10pm On Nov 27, 2015 |
aob2882: After allahs amies(isis and boko) might have finished killing all the unbelievers so that only muslims will remain on earth. Only then can you say the Quran is a solution to muslims kind. For now, the world is against allahs armies. So stay cool and watch what the end will become. |
Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by plappville(f): 3:17pm On Nov 27, 2015 |
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Re: Why Islam Will No More Grow by truthman2012(m): 4:10pm On Nov 27, 2015 |
plappville: Always with relevant pictures. |
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