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Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 2:23am On Dec 15, 2015 |
macof: After Awole's rejection, Afonja, now master of Illorin, invited an itinerant Fulani scholar of Islam called Alim al-Salih into his ranks. By doing this, he hoped to secure the support of Yoruba Muslims (mainly slaves taking care of the Empire's horses) and volunteers from the Hausa-Fulani north in keeping Ilorin independent. Torn by internal struggle, Oyo could not defend itself against the Fulani.[49] Oyo-Ile was razed by the Fulani Empire in 1835 and the Oyo Empire collapsed in 1836. see i always back uo what i say with facts!! and ile ife was already completely irrelevant at this point!!!! secretly, this dweeb wishes he was hausa, i mean, who doesnt, but nature played a cruel trick on you!!! you were dealth a faulty hand, you never stood a chance! 1 Like |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by macof(m): 2:50am On Dec 15, 2015 |
MorrowCaligari: the born to be a maggot slave is still talking. . So Ilorin (with support of northern fulanis) pushed Oyos southwards means hausas razed their city? Fulani and hausa are the same now? Oh! I forgot a slave always wants to identify with his masters Same fulani that were dealt with by the same Oyos(now resettled at Ibadan) and captured muslim yorubas of Ilorin that were beheaded? Completely irrelevant? The source of all yoruba dynasties irrelevant? Why didn't you try attacking Ife and watch a bombardment of all yorubas on ur stuupid north. .you should ask the Owus what happened to them for making the mistake of attacking Ife I don't think you know macof at all, a proud yoruba like myself can never wish to be hausa. .try ur angas relatives 2 Likes |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by macof(m): 3:02am On Dec 15, 2015 |
MorrowCaligari: Oh well, you can't see hausa from what you quoted means that ur stupidity is off the charts like every typical hausa maggot Am done with you. I've dealt with you maggots, people needed to know just how much of a damned slave you are . #mostEnslavedPeopleOnEarth 2 Likes |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 9:56am On Dec 15, 2015 |
macof: Looool! The army of the sokoto caliphate consisted of both hausas and fulanis dumbo! Youre not shameless talking about how we forced you to resettle? You ran like you always do, like cowards!!! And if I had wanted to be identified as Fulani, son't you think I would have called myself that or something? Mor.on! But you're yet to tell me an instance where your ancestors even attempted to set foot in Hausa land! 2 Likes |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 9:59am On Dec 15, 2015 |
macof: You should continue lying to yourself, meanwhile I know deep down you're hurting right now after the irrelevance of your race has been pointed out to you. Most enslaved people, where did we go? Why is almost every slave that tries to trace his route yoruba? Why are there yoruba communities scattered all across the globe Loool! I think you even admitted the great number of your slaves at first. Its like I said, the only thing your race is good for ia slavery!!! 1 Like |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 10:04am On Dec 15, 2015 |
In the early 1500's, slaves were transported from West Africa to America through Badagry. It is reported that Badagry exported no fewer than 550,000 African slaves to America during the period of the American Independence in l787. In addition, slaves were transported to Europe, South America and the Caribbean. The slaves came mainly from West Africa and the neighboring countries of Benin (Republic of Benin-Dahomey) and Togo as well as others parts of Nigeria. The slave trade became the major source of income for the Europeans in Badagry. It was confessed that the prospects of Trans Atlantic Slave Trade fueled into tribal wars in Yorubaland as the kings and slaves who had taken part of the European slave merchants' offer, went all out to wage war on the other towns and villages with the sole aim of getting slaves to be exchanged for wine and guns."" Most of these slaves were Igbo and Yoruba, with significant concentrations of Ibibio, and other ethnic groups. In the eighteenth century, two polities--Oyo and the Aro confederacy--were responsible for most of the slaves exported from Nigeria. The Aro confederacy continued to export slaves through the 1830s, but most slaves in the nineteenth century were a product of the Yoruba civil wars that followed the collapse of Oyo in the 1820s. The expansion of Oyo after the middle of the sixteenth century was closely associated with the growth of slave exports across the Atlantic. Oyo's cavalry pushed southward along a natural break in the forests known as the Benin(Republic of Benin-Dahomey) Gap, i.e., the opening in the forest where the savanna stretched to the Bight of Benin), and thereby gained access to the coastal ports. Most slaves exported from that region of Africa were sold by Yoruba traders, and many (if not most) of those slaves had been transshipped from further inside Africa. Many were identified by Europeans as coming from the Yoruba. Over time, as well, Yoruba culture and religion became common among many slaves in the Americas, so that a spiritual and communal connection became quite common. Several African states took an active part in the European slave trade when it began in the early sixteenth century. West Africa, in particular, was one of the principal routes for this commerce in human lives. Several forest kingdoms, such as the Oyo kingdom (Yoruba) and the kingdom of Dahomey, derived immense wealth from the slave trade. This slave trade, however, had a double edge. It meant that the kingdoms and city-states which derived commercial gain also had to fight more wars in order to obtain captives for the slave trade. The result was a high degree of political instability for these forest kingdoms; not only did the slave trade produce the largest single displacement of human peoples in human history, it also fragmented the African civilizations that participated in this commerce. " Loooool! Isn't it interesting how these articles always refer to Oyo as a forest Kingdom! Inhabited by forest people I suppose!!!!! |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 10:11am On Dec 15, 2015 |
macof The Igbo and Yoruba peoples from the Bights of Benin and Biafra compromised roughly one-third of all enslaved Africans transported to the Americas. Professor Childs examines how the transatlantic slave trade during the 18th and 19th centuries brought about the formation of a common identity in Africa among the Yoruba and Igbo peoples, and how their culture was both transferred and transformed in the Americas. Matt D. Childs is associate professor of history at the University of South Carolina, the author of The 1812 Aponte Rebellion in Cuba and the Struggle against Atlantic Slavery, and coeditor of The Yoruba Diaspora in the Atlantic World, and The Changing Worlds of Atlantic Africa. He is currently editing a volume on Igbos in the Atlantic world and writing another on the Afro-descendant population in Havana during the 18th and 19th centuries. |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by macof(m): 6:29pm On Dec 15, 2015 |
Dude! Everything you've posted since my last post has been nothing but you keeping up your reputation for being a stuupid maggot So Oyo is refered as a forest kingdom? Is sokoto not a desert sultanate? Are hausa and fulani not desert people? Na wa o, Oyo were the most northern yoruba nation and didn't have much forests around like the southern nations. ..I wonder what makes them a forest people using cavalry Oyo exported massive slaves. .and so? Who denied that? Many of these slaves were from Northern nations..with hausas Yoruba know the difference between Hausa and fulani, no where are 2nd class hausas mentioned in the attacks against Oyo-ile. It was mainly an Ilorin vs Oyo fight with fulani assistance.. hausas have almost no presence in Ilorin today..all hausas known to have been in Ilorin during Afonja were Oyo slaves who were a long way into being yorubanized due to slavery. . .. nobody in Ilorin identifies as hausa even though we still have Borgu and Fulani personalities I'm done with you. You got nothing to say |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 6:35pm On Dec 15, 2015 |
macof:You mean the cavalry you got from nupes who in turn got it from us? you mean the cavalry you buy horses from us to equip? Oyo exported massive slaves. .and so? Who denied that? Many of these slaves were from Northern nations..with hausaslool! you do know that Gambari means hausa right? i keep asking you if the fulani army consists of fulanis alone? you see, when i tell you you know nothing about the north or hausa or our history youll deny it! even dan fodios most trusted general was a hausa man dumb a.ss! my point sill remains you are the most enslaved race in the world. you still are till date! I'm done with you. You got nothing to saynooo! youre fighting a lost cause and you know it so you flee like the umpteenth generation coward you are! |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by GorkoSusaay: 9:27pm On Dec 15, 2015 |
Hausa city-states were great. And so were Yorubaland's different states. Nigeria is lucky to have these two ethnicites in its fold Nigeria should be greater than what it is right now. Yet you are here arguing about events that happened two hundred years ago. Come on, you can do better than that. 4 Likes |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 3:28am On Dec 16, 2015 |
GorkoSusaay: Like I said, just a bit of harmless banter, nothing more. But if the bloke decides to catch feelings, that's on him, not me. |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Fulaman198(m): 3:31am On Dec 16, 2015 |
GorkoSusaay: A haali gonga bandiraawo! A jaraama seydi Gorko Susaay jam na? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 4:41am On Dec 17, 2015 |
D*ck measuring special Olympics. 1 Like |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by alanmwene: 10:51am On Dec 17, 2015 |
tpiar:Why are bringing angola in a fight between hausas and yorubas?That is cowardice!Fight back instead of shifting the blame on somebody else Anyway,the past is the past.What is matter is today!What is up today with hausas,yorubas and angoleses? Luanda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gCvgtJDhm4 kano https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH80o2W5Ybc Ibadan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVBNCGxMaYI 1 Like |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 10:58am On Dec 17, 2015 |
alanmwene: Sure, just dig up whichever picture or video you want when there are almost ten hausa states and 6 yoruba states. You just dug up pictures that suit your agenda. Macof |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Fulaman198(m): 5:48pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
Lovesdaisied: Where do i sign up? Though I'd probably lose those of you with 15 inches stay out of this thread |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Demmzy15(m): 11:04pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
My own is Yorubas had trade with the Songhai empire, mosques were built during this time in Osun(Oyo). Later some Yorubas started converting to Islam, in fact Yoruba Muslims existed 100s of years before the birth of Sheikh Uthman Ibn Foodee(Dan Fodio). Please lets stop the curses, we shuld all be proud of ourselves! 2 Likes |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 11:29pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
Demmzy15: My dear yoruba friend, like I said earlier, it's all banter. I have the utmost respect for your people. I apologise if any of my comments came off as rude, not my intention. |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 11:29pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
Fulaman198: I have concluded you're a megalomaniac. |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Demmzy15(m): 11:37pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
MorrowCaligari:Respect bro, we're all brothers. Both our history is rich so there's no need to complicate issues. Its up to us to make history so as generations after us can refer to our achievements Salam/Shalom |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 11:50pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
Demmzy15: exactly! couldnt have put it any better myself. salam. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Fulaman198(m): 12:01am On Dec 20, 2015 |
MorrowCaligari: LOL why do you say that? |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 12:14am On Dec 20, 2015 |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Fulaman198(m): 9:17pm On Dec 20, 2015 |
MorrowCaligari: My brother I'm not a megalomaniac |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by OPCNAIRALAND: 1:42am On Dec 21, 2015 |
Hey Morrow, Go and review this thread from page 1. On page 7 you are no better temperamentally than you were on 1. You are a distasteful fighter. In all likelihood you are not a true Hausa but a wannabe. |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 2:39am On Dec 21, 2015 |
OPCNAIRALAND: Like you're one to talk. You're a bigot. I have already apologised for my actions, what more do you want from me you sprag! And what do you mean hausa wannabe? |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by OPCNAIRALAND: 3:02am On Dec 21, 2015 |
MorrowCaligari: Where is your apology? I havent seen it. Did you apologise to me? |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 3:09am On Dec 21, 2015 |
OPCNAIRALAND: Why will I apologise to you? You're a douche! |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by OPCNAIRALAND: 3:14am On Dec 21, 2015 |
You notice how every word out of you is accompanied with a vulgar? True Hausas, blood and flesh BaHaushe, will recoil at your uncultured and ignoble utterances towards others. I don't think I need a proof that you are a Hausa wannabe. 1 Like |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 3:55am On Dec 21, 2015 |
OPCNAIRALAND: so you admit hausas are cultured and resolute? |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by pleep(m): 4:24am On Dec 21, 2015 |
OPCNAIRALAND:Excellent post |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by OPCNAIRALAND: 9:03am On Dec 21, 2015 |
MorrowCaligari: If a blindman is offended by his fellow blindman accusations and vulgarity against those with vision does he gain sight? |
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