udeycraze?:

oh oh , This girl C2h- watever. i aint got time

e bi like say u no am

Just like every other birth defect (Hermaphrodites, imbeciles etc), I believe know it is possiible to have a male child with excess female hormones. The boy would exxhibit lots of feminine characteristics from childhood. Instead of hanging out with the guys, he would prefer being with the girls. This is the stage where something has to be done in the form of counseling etc, else the boy may grow up into a gay.

God created the earth and everything therein (NORMAL BEINGS, MADmen, hemaphrodites, imbeciles, kleptos etc). He has his reasons for creating everyone in their form and he makes no mistakes.

Since everyone is born a sinner, then IT IS POSSIBLE FOR SOME PIPS TO BE BORN IN THIS EVIL FORM. It remains the duty of anyone born with these gay feelings to fight it (and not accept it) in order to do what is right. Thats the cross they have to carry till death, .eXcept say dem no wan reach heaven.

na2day?:

e bi like say u no am

that boy is mad.

obailala:

Just like every other birth defect (Hermaphrodites, imbeciles etc), I believe know it is possiible to have a male child with excess female hormones. The boy would exxhibit lots of feminine characteristics from childhood. Instead of hanging out with the guys, he would prefer being with the girls. This is the stage where something has to be done in the form of counseling etc, else the boy may grow up into a gay.

lol what?

No one can b born gay

why not?

Reading most of d commentz 4rm nigerianz schoolin abroad on this topic,I shudder at d very strong effects of western values as against thier own,this raises another question of Neo-colonialism(colonialism in another form,this time of the mind).I like to tackle issues 4rm a very different angle,i guez we ve exhausted the point that it is not possible to be born gay both 4rm d science point of view and religious point of view.But in d course of this debate what i ve noticed is dat proponents like micheline(even though somtymz she comes across as a kid in d way she arguez),bawomola(whom i think is out to jst argue to be heard even if he does't understant sth,he jst has to reply) and a handful of otherz arguementz re just plain sophism(intelligent but not neccessarily true).Until most of you start givin us ur personal views and not verbatim ideas 4rm d so-called "liberals" in d west,U wont convince us on d other side of d divide why for instance i should see homo as nature's latest innovative invention.

rhymz:

Until most of you start givin us ur personal views and not verbatim ideas 4rm d so-called "liberals" in d west,U wont convince us on d other side of d divide why for instance i should see homo as nature's latest innovative invention.

Exactly my problem with most of them which I have highlighted in previous debates on homosexuality.

They just regurgitate the rubbish arguments they are fed by gay propagandists/terrorists in the West. There is no original thought in most of the rubbish they vomit here.

Sagamite:

Exactly my problem with most of them which I have highlighted in previous debates on homosexuality.

They just regurgitate the rubbish arguments they are fed by gay propagandists/terrorists in the West. There is no original thought in most of the rubbish they vomit here.

Although I have said my own opinion view. I gave views from my personal experience when asking my own gay colleagues and gay associates relating to this question.

The only people who can truly answer this question whether people were born gay, are those who are gay themselves and Baba God.

Part of the reason why morally degrading habit ve evolved into a way of life is becos the church has been quiet abt it 4 so long & left d problem in d hands of politicians and lobby groups thus givin way to a new group of wel educated,highly placed social misfits in the form of homosexuals,transexuals,bisexuals,bestiality,brazen acts of incest etc.In d past even in d West,ppl with such behavior used to be seriously sanctioned but becos the church decided to play dumb and d "liberal"game,the result is wat u see today,in-Ur-face practice of homosexualism & statements such as those 4rm michelin89. One of the root causes of dis proliferation is d general apathy towardz God and d open embrace towardz silly and stupid remarks,xplananz & research whose aim is to make homosexualism and it's likez acceptable.Very soon dere'll be lobby groups for incestuous families on d basis dat it's done based on tradition.I fear at d future of this world,men copulatin wit men,humans copulatin wit animals & we say is not dier fault

rhymz:

Part of the reason why morally degrading habit ve evolved into a way of life is[b] becos the church has been quiet abt it 4 so long & left d problem in d hands of politicians and lobby groups thus givin way to a new group of wel educated,highly placed social misfits in the form of [/b] homosexuals,transexuals,bisexuals,bestiality,brazen acts of incest etc.In d past even in d West,ppl with such behavior used to be seriously sanctioned but becos the church decided to play dumb and d "liberal"game,the result is wat u see today,in-Ur-face practice of homosexualism & statements such as those 4rm michelin89. One of the root causes of dis proliferation is d general apathy towardz God and d open embrace towardz silly and stupid remarks,xplananz & research whose aim is to make homosexualism and it's likez acceptable.Very soon dere'll be lobby groups for incestuous families on d basis dat it's done based on tradition.I fear at d future of this world,men copulatin wit men,humans copulatin wit animals & we say is not dier fault

I have to somewhat disagree. . . . . many churches have not 'intentionally' kept quiet in order to try and be 'liberal'. God's rules are God's rules. Many churches have been verbally shut down by many 'rights' groups etc. So they can't say what they believe is the truth without some politician and or activists trying to 'rubbish' their 'biblical and/or religious' claims and views.

On the other hand, we are now in a world where we have gay priests/pastors.

Secretz:

Although I have said my own opinion view. I gave views from my personal experience when asking my own gay colleagues and gay associates relating to this question.

The only people who can truly answer this question whether people were born gay, are those who are gay themselves and Baba God.

Who dey talk about you?

I am talking about people like the one with multiple personalities.

Abi you be one of the personalities?

Secretz:

I have to somewhat disagree. . . . . many churches have not 'intentionally' kept quiet in order to try and be 'liberal'. God's rules are God's rules. Many churches have been verbally shut down by many 'rights' groups etc. So they can't say what they believe is the truth without some politician and or activists trying to 'rubbish' their 'biblical and/or religious' claims and views.

On the other hand, we are now in a world where we have gay priests/pastors.

That is the gay gangterism/terrorism/mafia I have been referring to.

The only view acceptable on mainstream British media today MUST BE mainly pro-gay. Anything anti-gay is viciously attacked and suppressed no matter how strong and rational the arguments are.

I am yet to see any gay character on TV soaps that has an evil personality, they, and those that accept them, are always nice and likeable. Whilst those that oppose them are the unreasonable ones in the soap. Part of the grand brainwashing of youths.

Secretz U re right in a way but when i talk abt d church,i mean the Roman Catholic, which obviously holdz more than 65% of d Christian community,it's the most powerful political/religious organization,they have enormous influence on christiandom,i beliv any action 4rm d vatican againt its spread will replicate itself in other other non catholic denominations in d christiandom.If the pope had seen such issues as priority and had taken some serious stepz to nip it in d bud we wont ve a full blown social malaise now.As it's now we not only ve to understand & condone dem but also ve to giv dem some undeserved rightz like same-sex marriage,making dem head of a christian church or group,makin dem custodians of little childrien and so.These re d extremes i fear,thier success with dese rights wil steer up more groupz which hitherto dare not come out & ask for such rights.It's high time the Church took a very strong stand on this & stop playing politicz with it,this bunch is gettin so powerful and more sympathy.

The church is a problem on their own, different churches with different views, different traditions and host of other unbiblical doctrines practise in different churches, Anglican are the ones who really accepted homosexuality by even ordaining homosexuals, i really don't understand what they use the bible for, Maybe they use it as a newspaper where you only get to read what interest you or they obviously don't even read it at all,


I am yet to understand, there is division in the church, how then do you expect the non-Christians accept that homosexuality is wrong

I'd like to precise that your hatred for homosexuals has nothing to do with you being Africans or Christians. It's just your individual thing. So come out and say you hate homos because YOU hate homos and not because Africans hate homos.

I am an African and I don't give a Bleep about what a man wants to do with another man and I claim that in a supposed democratic country like ours it's a shame we have to prefer some citizens to others because these last ones don't conform to what is considered the norm.

If a citizen respects the laws and respects the individual right to choose and pays their contributions to the State, none of you, not even the government, has the right to deprive him of his dignity as a person and his lawful position as a citizen.

What happened to human rights and our Constitution?

I wouldn't even be surprised if one day you decided to out law any body that isn't Christian/Muslim, hetero and married. And you claim to be civilised? The shit I flushed out yesterday is more civilized than you all.

*angrily disgusted*

michelin89:

I am an African and I don't give a Bleep about what a man wants to do with another man and I claim that in a supposed democratic country like ours it's a shame we have to prefer some citizens to others because these last ones don't conform to what is considered the norm.

If a citizen respects the laws and respects the individual right to choose and pays their contributions to the State, none of you, not even the government, has the right to deprive him of his dignity as a person and his lawful position as a citizen.

What happened to human rights and our Constitution?

I wouldn't even be surprised if one day you decided to out law any body that isn't Christian/Muslim, hetero and married. And you claim to be civilised? The shit I flushed out yesterday is more civilized than you all.

*angrily disgusted*

Typical stupid arguments and regurgitation of the propaganda fed in the West.

What has democracy got to do with banning what is immoral and seen as detrimental to society.

Democracy is the right for every individual to have equal rights to elect and appoint your leaders. That is ALL. NOT a passport for people to bastardise each others arse.

According to the stupid argument above, then we have no right to ban incest or nudists!

"Why should we, we are in a democracy".

Sagamite:

Typical stupid arguments and regurgitation of the propaganda fed in the West.

What has democracy got to do with banning what is immoral and seen as detrimental to society.

[b]Democracy is the right for every individual to have equal rights to elect and appoint your leaders. That is ALL. NOT a passport for people to bastardise each others arse.[/b]

According to the stupid argument above, then we have no right to ban incest or nudists!

"Why should we, we are in a democracy".

@sagamite at least we agree on something.

Homosexuality is wrong pure and simple, call it whatever name u want to call it, it is still wrong. Men for the nonsense in Africa am still grateful i was not brought up in the rubbish Caucasian culture, I would have turned out worse than i am now had that been so.

According to some commentators on the internet,

Adam and Eve were created not Adam and Steve.

Sagamite:

Typical stupid arguments and regurgitation of the propaganda fed in the West.

What has democracy got to do with banning what is immoral and seen as detrimental to society.

Democracy is the right for every individual to have equal rights to elect and appoint your leaders. That is ALL. NOT a passport for people to bastardise each others arse.

According to the stupid argument above, then we have no right to ban incest or nudists!

"Why should we, we are in a democracy".

This is even more stupid. Get it into your head that you are in no postition to choose morals for anybody. If you want to play god, create a plastic model of the world and choose the rules.

You are a man like anyother and you are above nobody. the world doens't revolve around you and understand that we don't give a Bleep about what you think is moral or not. Teach you kids at home but once you come out of your house know that there are 1000000000s of people like you who could also impose and has the same right as you to impose their morals.

@michelin89 are u gay or why are u supportive and feistly defending something that is indefensible.

Why can't bestiality be included in the right of every man under democracy since you are hurting no one and the animals involved have never complained of being molested

No2Atheism:

@sagamite at least we agree on something.

Homosexuality is wrong pure and simple, call it whatever name u want to call it, it is still wrong. Men for the nonsense in Africa am still grateful i was not brought up in the rubbish Caucasian culture, I would have turned out worse than i am now had that been so.

According to some commentators on the internet,

Adam and Eve were created not Adam and Steve.

Broken record.

@ Saga

Nudism?? Ahahahahhah! Oh gosh. I am offended someone like you can call me stupid. You don't even know what these things are. You just heard that they are immoral and you end up putting them on the same scale. Have you ever wondered why incest is not accepted by society and even science?

Go and make researches.

Also nudism has nothing to with moralism. Nudists are very aware of that fact that people may be uncomfortable with the exposure of their bodies. That's why they have created an isolated area where they can practice their naturalism in peace.

In case you don't know even insides nudists' beaches there are rules that must be obeyed.

I have pasted them for you in case you want to come up with something even more stupid.

RUG ABUSE
Anyone underage caught drinking alcohol or any individual using illegal controlled substances will be asked to leave the grounds.
Possession and/or use of controlled substances (cocaine, marijuana, etc.) are strictly prohibited.


ALCOHOL ABUSE
Excessive alcohol consumption and/or drunkenness are not tolerated at most nudist resorts.
Alcoholic beverages are sometimes permitted in common areas. Usually no glass containers are allowed on the grounds. Be responsible.
Drink responsibly.


UNWANTED BEHAVIOR
Abusive language, rude, or crude behavior, or advances of an unwelcome or unwanted nature is not acceptable. Avoid loud and aggressive behavior. Your behavior is your passport.
Any behavior or activity that disrupts the harmony and tranquil atmosphere of the club will not be tolerated.
Members and guests are expected to conduct themselves in a manner that would be considered acceptable in most other public gatherings attended by persons of both sexes and all age groups.
Our basic rule is that any behavior which causes others to feel embarrassed or uncomfortable is forbidden. That behavior could include language or actions, unlawful drugs, bringing a camera, or being too "friendly" in a way that causes others to feel defensive.
Be considerate of the rights, safety comfort, and anonymity of others.
Respect the property and privacy of others at all times.


LANGUAGE
Please refrain from sexually explicit language.


PUBLIC AFFECTION
At nudist resorts, no overt sexual activity is permitted. Sexually explicit behavior is unacceptable and could result in loss of membership.
Generally, if it is socially acceptable in a clothed setting, then it is acceptable in a nude setting. Public affection and/or touching among members shall be set to the same standards as acceptable affectionate behavior in a fully clothed public place.
Sexual preference involving consenting adults is an individual's own business if conducted in private. Imposing personal attitudes on others is not acceptable.
[Note: Some resorts observe a 'relaxed' attitude toward sexual behavior. One of the goals of this forum is to help nudists to make informed choices when planning a vacation.]


CHILDREN'S BEHAVIOR
Parents are responsible for the conduct, care and safety of their children at all times. NO CHILD IS TO BE LEFT UNATTENDED. Anyone under the age of 18 must be accompanied by a parent.
Remember that children see and hear everything - act accordingly.


PORNOGRAPHY
While nudist publications and literature are usually acceptable, pornographic or sexually explicit material and literature should be viewed in the privacy of your own home.


SWINGERS
Nudist groups are not sex clubs.
If you are not familiar with the nudist lifestyle, you need to be aware of some things that nudist groups don't offer.
1. A nudist group is not a dating service.
2. A nudist group is not a swingers club.
3. Nudist groups do not allow touching between members outside of that which you would reasonably expect to see at a non-nude social gathering.
Don't come looking for sex. You're only going to be disappointed, and if you offend anyone, you will be permanently barred from the activities.


PHOTOGRAPHY
ALWAYS ask permission before taking photographs or videos. At a resort, the manager's permission may be required.
Take photographs only with the full consent of subject(s) or in the case of minors, with permission of parents or legal guardians.


SPEAK UP
Members are encouraged to speak up for these standards of conduct.


SHERIFF
Be polite, especially to rangers and sheriff's deputies. At some time you may require help with legal problems regarding your nudity on public beaches, but your behavior could well jeopardize this help.


TOWEL
All nudist clubs require that yo

It's not just a matter of something being wrong. Also care to know why it is wrong. So I am inviting you to go and read the contro of incests and why it has been severely criticized by both science and society.

Thank you.

michelin89:

This is even more stupid. Get it into your head that you are in no postition to choose morals for anybody. If you want to play god, create a plastic model of the world and choose the rules.

You are a man like anyother and you are above nobody. the world doens't revolve around you and understand that we don't give a Bleep about what you think is moral or not. Teach you kids at home but once you come out of your house know that there are 1000000000s of people like you who could also impose and has the same right as you to impose their morals.

Errrr . . . . . . . . . . .unfortunately for you, if you are observant and sharp enough, you will notice that every society sets a standard of morals acceptable to its society. So, ding dong, it is not a stupid argument.

If someone decide to go completely naked and walk out on the streets of London or Milan. You know what, the person would be arrested and charged to court despite:

- Being born that way
- Not harming anybody
- It is democracy (rofl)

Why? Becuase it is seen as immoral. So please stop chatting crap, we have a right to use our acceptable levels of morals to legislate and regulate our society.

Sagamite:

Errrr . . . . . . . . . . .unfortunately for you, if you are observant and sharp enough, you will notice that every society sets a standard of morals acceptable to its society. So, ding dong, it is not a stupid argument.

If someone decide to go completely naked and walk out on the streets of London or Milan. You know what, the person would be arrested and charged to court despite:

- Being born that way
- Not harming anybody
- It is democracy (rofl)

Why? Becuase it is seen as immoral. So please stop chatting crap, we have a right to use our acceptable levels of morals to legislate and regulate our society.

True but I am not forced to observe those rules if i don't agree with them. I have every right to demand respect for the choices i have made. You can decide to give me or not but that doesn't stop me from telling you you are a dickhead when you walk up to my door to tell me crap about how my life isn't good and how you are a better citizen me because you go to church or do other things which are absolutely irrelevant to my plans in life.

Get it Sagamite. You are a conformist and a conservative. I am not. The society must evolve and it won't be thanks to people like you but like me, who'll make sure their individual choices are respected.

michelin89:

@ Saga

Nudism?? Ahahahahhah! Oh gosh. I am offended someone like you can call me stupid. You don't even know what these things are. You just heard that they are immoral and you end up putting them on the same scale. Have you ever wondered why incest is not accepted by society and even science?

Go and make researches.

Also nudism has nothing to with moralism. Nudists are very aware of that fact that people may be uncomfortable with the exposure of their bodies. That's why they have created an isolated area where they can practice their naturalism in peace.

But why do they have to have an isolated area to practice? You think majority of people are not uncomfortable and DISGUSTED with homosexual acts? So what is your argument? Do you agree we should create an isolated island and through all homosexuals there as they make us uncomfortable and disgusted? Because if you do, then we are on the same page.

michelin89:

In case you don't know even insides nudists' beaches there are rules that must be obeyed.

I have pasted them for you in case you want to come up with something even more stupid.

It's not just a matter of something being wrong. Also care to know why it is wrong. So I am inviting you to go and read the contro of incests and why it has been severely criticized by both science and society.

Thank you.

I have done my research on incest, please put your arguments forward and let me destroy it with logic beyond your brain, then you will understand why bawomolo runs when I through questions at him.

Sagamite:

But why do they have to have an isolated area to practice? You think majority of people are not uncomfortable and DISGUSTED with homosexual acts? So what is your argument? Do you agree we should create an isolated island and through all homosexuals there as they make us uncomfortable and disgusted? Because if you do, then we are on the same page.


I have done my research on incest, please put your arguments forward and let me destroy it with logic beyond your brain, then you will understand why bawomolo runs when I through questions at him.

1. Absolutely no. It's obvious you didn't get my drift. Nudism and homosexuality are not on the same scale. They are different and have different reasons for being accepted or not. And there is no way I'd ask for an isolated island for homosexuals. They are people like us and must be given the right to live a perfectly normal life regardless of what they do in their bedroom.

Aware as they are of those social norms you are ready to kill for, I am sure African gays will desist from showing affection publicly since they risk their lives, but no discrimination should be against them.

They are adults just like you. And who are the we who are supposed to make the rules? What has made you the right people to make the rules? What what criteria where you chosen?

Tell me I am curious. Please not that we are not talking about political or juridical rights where everyone is equal to another. We are talking about social norms where an individual can choose freely (with or without your consent) to live as he wants and still be a perfect citizen by respecting the rules.

@michelin89 are u gay or why are u supportive and feistly defending something that is indefensible.

michelin89:

True but[b] I am not forced to observe those rules if i don't agree with them[/b]. I have every right to demand respect for the choices i have made. You can decide to give me or not but that doesn't stop me from telling you you are a dickhead when you walk up to my door to tell me crap about how my life isn't good and how you are a better citizen me because you go to church or do other things which are absolutely irrelevant to my plans in life.

You WILL be forced to observe the rules if it is enshrined in law whether you like it or not.

You have the right to demand respect for the choices you make but society does not have any responsibility to grant it to you except you can get a majority to support you or it is part of your fundamental human right. And let me preempt you, the right to deviant is not a fundamental human right.

michelin89:

Get it Sagamite. You are a conformist and a conservative. I am not. The society must evolve and it won't be thanks to people like you but like me, who'll make sure their individual choices are respected.

No, I am an open-minded liberal but unlike you I don't accept every filth to enter my moral pyramid all in the name of open-mindedness or liberality. I filter everything and discard the rubbish.

Yes, society must evolve BUT for the better. It is people like you that regurgitate mantras fed to you in the West that "change is always progressive".

No, not all change are good. There are changes that are degressive and there are ones that are progressive.

Sagamite:

You WILL be forced to observe the rules if it is enshrined in law whether you like it or not.

You have the right to demand respect for the choices you make but society does not have any responsibility to grant it to you except you can get a majority to support you or it is part of your fundamental human right. And let me preempt you, the right to deviant is not a fundamental human right.

Since it has not been done, there is still room for discussion. I am observant of the law and if it's the expression of a majority (politically speaking) I will respect it because that's what democracy demands. But inside the society where those future law are discussed, as a citizen I have a right to make my own proposal. I am not saying that mine must be final but no one must shun me and deny me of my right of expression.

That right you wrongly called the right to deviant is my freedom of expression. You may not like what I say, for goodness sake I accept and incite diversity, but you are not in an upper position to label and expect other people to follow your label.

Sagamite:

No, I am an open-minded liberal but unlike you I don't accept every filth to enter my moral pyramid all in the name of open-mindedness or liberality. I filter everything and discard the rubbish.

Yes, society must evolve BUT for the better. It is people like you that regurgitate mantras fed to you in the West that "change is always progressive".

No, not all change are good. There are changes that are degressive and there are ones that are progressive.

Fine we agree that the society must evolve. However opinions about the direction differ and that's why we are here. I think giving rights to gay is an advancement in the reinforcement of human rights. You think it's rather a weakening.

Now we are debating on why one's position is better than the other's.

I ask once again @michelin89 are u gay or are u ashamed to admit or say it in public. How can u defend something u are ashamed of making a public statement about.

No2Atheism:

I ask once again @michelin89 are u gay or are u ashamed to admit or say it in public. How can u defend something u are ashamed of making a public statement about.

Or maybe I am ignoring you because your question is stupid?

Even your name makes me dislike you profoundly.

@ JeSoul,

What has Jesus got to say in all this?

Jesus Christ who created us and owns us has the absolute authority to determine what is right and wrong for us.   Atheists may not agree with this since they don't believe in absolute authority.  They neither believe in God nor in His absolute authority and that is the reason they believe that they have the right to have their own opinions and to make their own laws about life as long as they can get away with murder.  So I will understand if the what Jesus has to say will not go down well with them, but for those of us who are willing to know what Jesus has to say about this gay issue let us read what He said in the verse below:

"And He answered and said to them, 'Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning "made them male and female,""For this cause a man shall leave father and mother and shall cling to his wife, and the two of them shall be one flesh?"  So then, they are no longer two but one flesh.  Therefore what God has joined together, let no man separate.'" -- Matt. 19:4-6

We can see here that Jesus quoted from the book of Genesis and its account of the creation of Adam and Eve as the first man and woman and the first marriage which is one woman for one man, not one man for one man, one man for many women nor one woman for one woman nor one woman for many men or women, nor for humans and animals.  We can see where God categorically disaproves of homosexuality in Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27 and 1Tim.1:9-10.  With the above explanation and Scriptures we can conclude that homosexuality is absolutely wrong.  Absolute right and wrong exist independent of any secondary causative agencies.

The fall of Adam, as others have said, is the reason why most behaviours are of a complex mix of one's personal choices superimposed on a platform of predisposition which can come from one's up bringing and societal influences as I have highlighted earlier on at the beginning of this thread.  Many would agree with me that it is important to emphasis on proper child up bringing because of the damage done to kids raised up in gay married homes who end up confused as to who is the mum and dad and end up thinking that they are born gay.  If one's environment contributes to homosexuality then gay marriage will tend to increase the likelihood of the next generation being gay.

From one's genetic make up due to the curse of sin from our first parents we can see how  mutations in a cursed and fallen world can cause all sorts of abnormal behaviours and malfunctions such as paedophilia, homosexuality etc which is a result of the Curse and not of being born that way.   The fact that some people are more predisposed to alcoholism and or wife beating would not make wife beating an acceptable endeavour.

michelin89:

1. Absolutely no. It's obvious you didn't get my drift. Nudism and homosexuality are not on the same scale. They are different and have different reasons for being accepted or not.

Yes, I agree.

Obviously nudist have a better claim for acceptance than homosexuals.

michelin89:

And there is no way I'd ask for an isolated island for homosexuals. They are people like us and must be given the right to live a perfectly normal life regardless of what they do in their bedroom.

Are nudists, bestialists and incestors not people like us? You think they have green blood? But we rightfully banned them based on our moral filters.

michelin89:

Aware as they are of those social norms you are ready to kill for, I am sure African gays will desist from showing affection publicly since they risk their lives, but no discrimination should be against them.

No 1, where did you see me saying I am ready to kill for? You are running out of logic?

As long as they keep it to their bedrooms they are surely safe and even protected by the law because if you can't prove the act, they are untouchable.

So we don't want them exposing their filth in our society.

The basic acceptance you are advocating, I object to because I am smart enough to know it is just an insidious beginning. It will not be long before we start talking about gay adoption, marriage, inclusion in our kids curricullum etc if we in Nigeria accept any form of legal acceptance of faggotism.

michelin89:

They are adults just like you. And who are the we who are supposed to make the rules? What has made you the right people to make the rules? What what criteria where you chosen?

The same rights I have to stop incest, bestiality and necrophilia.

michelin89:

Tell me I am curious. Please not that we are not talking about political or juridical rights where everyone is equal to another. We are talking about social norms where an individual can choose freely (with or without your consent) to live as he wants and still be a perfect citizen by respecting the rules.

Unfortunately, you are not yet clued up to the reality that NO society can cater for where every individual can choose freely to live as they want. Every society regulates based on justice, morals and orderliness. EVERY society does it.