Bismillah rahman rahim

I notice this brother and co do not understand what it means by Nofilat/Nowafil i:e supererogatory act of worship. Nofilat does not only mean rakat. It also means dua, making dua/dhikr, selecting dua from Quran or hadith. We do not need specific order for supererogatory acts except where it's absolutely necessary.

Obligatory salat, Ramadan, Zakat and Haj are specific orders under وَاعْتَصِمُوا بِحَبْلِ اللَّهِ جَمِيعًا Imran 103. These obligatory are different from supererogatory. Quran and hadith back up supererogatory acts:


يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا اذْكُرُوا اللَّهَ ذِكْرًا كَثِيرًا (O you who Believe, make abundant remembrance of ALLAH!" (33:41)

In Tafsir of this verse Imam al-Qurtubi (rah) mentions the hadith:

وروى أبو سعيد عن النبيّ صلى الله عليه وسلّم: «أكثروا ذكر الله حتى يقولوا مجنون

Translation: Abu Sa'eed al Khudri (ra) narrates from the Prophet (Peace be upon him) who said: Do Dhikr so much that people start calling you Majnoon (mad) [Tafsir ul Qurtubi, Volume No. 14, Page No. 197]

This hadith is narrated in Musnad Ahmed (3/67, 81). Ibn Hibban in his “SAHIHA” (#814). Imam al-Hakim in his Mustadrak ala Sahihayn (1/499)

Imam al-Mundhiri (rah) after narrating it said:

رواه أحمد وأبو يعلى وابن حبان في صحيحه، والحاكم وقال: صحيح الإسناد.

Translation: It is narrated by Ahmed, Abu Ya'la, Ibn Hibban in his "SAHIHA" and al-Hakim after narrating it (Mustadrak 1/499) said: It has a “SAHIH CHAIN” [at-Targheeb wa Tarheeb, Page No. 280, Published by Dar ul Kitaab al Arabi, Beirut, Lebanon]
Imam Ibn Adi (rah) said:

بهذا الإسناد فليس به باس


Translation: This sanad has "NOTHING WRONG IN IT" [Al-Kamil, Volume No. 4, Page No, 9]

Imam Ibn Kathir (rah) also narrated it in his Tafsir al Quran al Azim and he also showed another hadith:


ابن عباس رضي الله عنهما قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلّم: اذكروا الله ذكراً كثيراً حتى يقول المنافقون إِنكم تراؤون


Translation: Narrated by Ibn Abbas (ra) who said that the Prophet (Peace be upon him) said: Remember Allah in abundance to the extent that Munafiqeen say that you are showing off [Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Volume No. 6, Page No. 384]

dragnet:

even if they're chanting just a shahaada, as long as it's on Eid mawlud or mawlid or whatever crappy name given to the innovation which has no basis in the Shari'a, it's null & void. and you haven't been able to cite just one link to the Shari'a even a weak athar can't be found to support the misguidance.

Dragnet accused them of doing crazy "crappy" practices. He wages his mini war on alhusunnah wajamah calling them "crappy". So the hadith above said people like that are hypocrites.

[size=15pt]"[/size] We know that Salafis shall as usual call this hadith "Da'eef" and in research we came across Hukm of Shaykh Shu'ayb al Arna'oot who also erred by calling it Da'eef in his Tehqeeq of Musnad Ahmed bin Hanbal. In reality this hadith is sound due to the fact that many Muhaditheen authenticated it, secondly It has come with different routes like we presented above the hadith from Ibn Abbas (RA) with a slightly different wording but a totally different chain of narrators (thus making Asaneed as "Hasan" due to corroborating chains). These proofs refute our dear friends called Salafis, who bash the gatherings of Sufis where they do loud dhikr in Hadhra (sufi gatherings of raqs and dhikr) in Arab world, rather the accusers are proven to be Munafiqeen because they call Sufis as mad men (Naudhobillah). What they forget is that we are proud to be called as mad men when hadiths prove us as great followers of Sunnah.[size=15pt]"[/size]



There is also no restriction of doing Dhikr alone or only by sitting down, we can stand up and do Dhikr or send Salawat on Prophet (Peace be upon him).


Qur'an states:

[size=13pt]الَّذِينَ يَذْكُرُونَ اللَّهَ قِيَامًا وَقُعُودًا وَعَلَىٰ جُنُوبِهِمْ[/size] وَيَتَفَكَّرُونَ فِي خَلْقِ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ رَبَّنَا مَا خَلَقْتَ هَٰذَا بَاطِلًا سُبْحَانَكَ فَقِنَا عَذَابَ النَّارِ


Translation: [size=13pt]Who remember Allah while "STANDING" or sitting or [lying] on their sides[/size] and give thought to the creation of the heavens and the earth, [saying], "Our Lord, You did not create this aimlessly; exalted are You [above such a thing]; then protect us from the punishment of the Fire. (al-Qur'an 3:191)


Qur’an states:

فِي بُيُوتٍ أَذِنَ اللَّهُ أَن تُرْفَعَ وَيُذْكَرَ فِيهَا اسْمُهُ يُسَبِّحُ لَهُ فِيهَا بِالْغُدُوِّ وَالْآصَالِ

رِجَالٌ لَّا تُلْهِيهِمْ تِجَارَةٌ وَلَا بَيْعٌ عَن ذِكْرِ اللَّهِ وَإِقَامِ الصَّلَاةِ وَإِيتَاءِ الزَّكَاةِ ۙ يَخَافُونَ يَوْمًا تَتَقَلَّبُ فِيهِ الْقُلُوبُ وَالْأَبْصَارُ


Translation: In houses which Allah has permitted to be exalted and that His name may be remembered in them; there glorify Him therein in the mornings and the evenings. Men whom neither merchandise nor selling diverts from the remembrance of Allah and the keeping up of prayer and the giving of poor-rate; they fear a day in which the hearts and eyes shall turn about [al-Qur’an 24:36-37]


These verses prove doing Dhikr in “HOUSES” and that too collective dhikr. The first verse is not only restricted to mosques as falsely asserted by some people, rather the wording used in Qur’an is “FI BUYUTINN” meaning houses in general (including mosques)


We only see the Sufis following these glorious verses of Qur’an whereas the Salafis restrict this Dhikr to Salaat only This is their wrong reasoning because the verses clearly distinguish between Salaat and Dhikr itself. It states: “ذِكْرِ اللَّهِ و إِقَامِ الصَّلَاةِ” Allah Himself distinguishes between Dhikr and Standing for prayer by putting a “WA (AND)” in-between the two..




One who remembers Allah (SWT) is alive and one who does not is dead

Hadith #1

عَنْ أَبِي مُوسَى رضي الله عنه قَالَ: قَالَ النَّبِيُّ صلي الله عليه وآله وسلم: مَثَلُ الَّذِي يَذْكُرُ رَبَّهُ وَالَّذِي لَا يَذْكُرُ رَبَّهُ مَثَلُ الْحَيِّ وَالْمَيِّتِ

Translation: Abu Musa (رضی اللہ عنہ) narrates that the Holy Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) said, “He who remembers his Lord and he who does not are like the living and the dead.”

References

► Bukhari, as-Sahih (5:2353#6044)

► Mundhiri, at-Targhib wat-tarhib (2:256#2303)

► Asqalani, Fath-ul-bari (11:210#6044)


Hadith #2

عَنْ أَبِي مُوسَى رضي الله عنه عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلي الله عليه وآله وسلم قَالَ: مَثَلُ الْبَيْتِ الَّذِي يُذْكَرُ اللَّهُ فِيهِ وَالْبَيْتِ الَّذِي لَا يُذْكَرُ اللَّهُ فِيهِ مَثَلُ الْحَيِّ وَالْمَيِّتِ

Translation: Abu Musa (رضی اللہ عنہ) narrates that the Holy Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) said, “The house in which Allah (SWT) is remembered and the one in which Allah (SWT) is not remembered are like the living and the dead.”

References

► Muslim, as-Sahih (1:539#779)
► Ibn Hibban, as-Sahih (3:135#854)
► Abu Yala, al-Musnad (13:291#7306)
► Ruyani, al-Musnad (1:317#473)
► Abu Nuaym, al-Musnad-ul-mustakhraj ala as-Sahih Muslim (2:372#1771)
► Daylami, al-Firdaw bima thur al-khitab (4:143#6442)
► Bayhaqi, Shuab-ul-iman (1:401#536)
► Mundhiri, at-Targhib wat-tarhib (1:170#635)
► Nawawi, Sharh Sahih Muslim (6:68)
► Mubarakpuri, Tuhfat-ul-ahwadhi (2:437)

They can do dhikr under any title they deem fit. It is sad when you (dragnet) said even if they said shahadah countless times in mawlud, it's still innovation and not rewarding. Thats your understanding, sir.

Now concerning their gathering doing dhikr, dragnet condemns this act to be innovation and blameworthy act.

Allah (SWT) expresses His pride upon Dhakireen in front of angels, and it is recommended to make gatherings of Dhikr unlike some people who consider gathering for dhikr as Bidah (Naudhobillah)

Even if they name the heading "Mawlud Nabi", the content is khayr. You are not Allah to determine it's crappy. Clearly your understanding of the deen is very narrow and rigid. Doing Dikhr is nawafil and 'shariatic' as well. Gathering or not. It is act that evolves and flexible.


Sheik Adam Al-Ilory said:

"And I am a salafi as long as salafiyya refers to holding to the Sacred Law with practices based on what is flexible and evolving rather than that which is rigid and narrow."


Hadith #3


عَنْ أَبِي سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِيِّ رضي الله عنه قَالَ: خَرَجَ مُعَاوِيَةُ عَلَى حَلْقَةٍ فِي الْمَسْجِدِ، فَقَالَ: ... إِنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلي الله عليه وآله وسلم خَرَجَ عَلَى حَلْقَةٍ مِنْ أَصْحَابِهِ، فَقَالَ: مَا أَجْلَسَكُمْ؟ قَالُوا: جَلَسْنَا نَذْكُرُ اللَّهَ وَنَحْمَدُهُ عَلَى مَا هَدَانَا لِلْإِسْلَامِ، وَمَنَّ بِهِ عَلَيْنَا. قَالَ: آللَّهِ مَا أَجْلَسَكُمْ إِلَّا ذَاكَ؟ قَالُوا: وَاللَّهِ مَا أَجْلَسَنَا إِلَّا ذَاكَ. قَالَ: أَمَا إِنِّي لَمْ أَسْتَحْلِفْكُمْ تُهْمَةً لَكُمْ، وَلَكِنَّهُ أَتَانِي جِبْرِيلُ، فَأَخْبَرَنِي أَنَّ اللَّهَ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ يُبَاهِي بِكُمُ الْمَلَائِكَةَ


Translation: Abu Saeed Khudri (رضی اللہ عنہ) narrates that Muawiyah (رضی اللہ عنہ) came to a group of people in the mosque and said, “… The Messenger of Allah (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) came to a group of his Companions in the mosque and said, ‘Why are you sitting?’ They said, ‘We are sitting remembering Allah and paying our thanks to Him for His favour of guiding us to Islam.’ The Holy Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) said, ‘Do you say that on oath that is what has made you sit here?’ They submitted, ‘By Allah we are sitting here only for this purpose.’ The Holy Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) said, ‘I have not made you take oath for any doubt but the thruth is that Gabriel came and told me that Allah is expressing His pride on you in front of angels.’”

References

►Muslim, as-Sahih (4:2075#2701)
►Tirmidhi, as-Sunan (5:460#3379)
►Nasai, as-Sunan (8:249#5426)
►Ahmad bin Hambal, al-Musnad (4:92)
►Ibn Hibban, as-Sahih (3:95#813)
►Ibn Abi Shaybah, al-Musannaf (6:59#29469)
►Tabarani, al-Mujam-ul-kabir (19:311#701)
►Mindhiri, at-Targhib wat-tarhib (2:259#2317)


So Sheikh Dragnet, you are just one step away from calling Sufi mad people instead of "crap".

Their headings can be whatever it is, Mawlud nabi or not, Quran competition or not. So long as the content or their acts are within the Sharia, it is Sunnah.

Angels search streets/roads for Dhikr gatherings.


Hadith #4


عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ رضي الله عنه قَالَ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلي الله عليه وآله وسلم: إِنَّ لِلَّهِ مَلَائِكَةً يَطُوفُونَ فِي الطُّرُقِ، يَلْتَمِسُونَ أَهْلَ الذِّكْرِ، فَإِذَا وَجَدُوا قَوْمًا يَذْكُرُونَ اللَّهَ تَنَادَوْا، هَلُمُّوا إِلَى حَاجَتِكُمْ

Translation: Abu Huraira (رضی اللہ عنہ) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) said, “Allah has angels who roam about on roads looking for the love-sick rememberers of Allah. When they find such people, they call out other angels: ‘Come here to your coveted aspiration….’”

References:
► Bukhari, as-Sahih (5:2353#6045)
► Ibn Hibban, as-Sahih (3:139#857)
► Bayhaqi, Shuab-ul-iman (1:399#531)
► Ibn Rajab, Jami-ul-ulum wal-hikam (1:345)
► Mundhiri, at-Targhib wat-tarhib (2:258#2316)




Hadith #5

عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ رضي الله عنه، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلي الله عليه وآله وسلم، قَالَ: إِنَّ لِلَّهِ تَبَارَكَ وَتَعَالَى مَلَائِكَةً سَيَّارَةً فُضُلًا يَتَتَبَّعُونَ مَجَالِسَ الذِّكْرِ، فَإِذَا وَجَدُوا مَجْلِسًا فِيهِ ذِكْرٌ، قَعَدُوا مَعَهُمْ

Translation: Abu Huraira (رضی اللہ عنہ) narrates that the Holy Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) said, “Surely there are some angels of Allah (SWT) who conduct patrolling in search of remembrance assemblies (A: Majalis al-Dhikr - this proves Group dhikr gatherings held by Sufis). When they find such an assembly, they join and sit with them…”

References:
► Muslim, as-Sahih (4:2069#2689)
► Ahmad bin Hambal, al-Musnad (2:25#7420)
► Ahmad bin Hambal, al-Musnad (2:382#8960)
► Mundhiri, at-Targhib wat-tarhib (2:259#2316)
► Mundhiri, at-Targhib wat-tarhib (4:244#5523)



Hadith #6

عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ رضي الله عنه أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللهِ صلي الله عليه وآله وسلم قَالَ: إِنَّ لِلهِ مَلَائِكَةً سَيَّارَةً وَفُضُلاَءَ يَلْتَمِسُونَ مَجَالِسَ الذِّكْرِ فِي الْأَرْضِ

Translation: Abu Huraira narrates (رضی اللہ عنہ) that the Messenger of Allah (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) said, “There are angels of Allah (SWT), besides those assigned with usual tasks, who travel round the globe (with a particular aim) and keep looking for remembrance sittings (A: Majalis al-Dhikr - this proves Group dhikr gatherings held by Sufis)..”

Reference:
Hakim, al-Mustadrak (1:672#1821)



Angels cover remembrance assemblies of Allah with their wings

Hadith #7

عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ وَأَبِي سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِيِّ رضي الله عنهما أَنَّهُمَا شَهِدَا عَلَى النَّبِيِّ صلي الله عليه وآله وسلم أَنَّهُ قَالَ: لَا يَقْعُدُ قَوْمٌ يَذْكُرُونَ اللَّهَ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ إِلَّا حَفَّتْهُمْ الْمَلَائِكَةُ، وَغَشِيَتْهُمْ الرَّحْمَةُ، وَنَزَلَتْ عَلَيْهِمْ السَّكِينَةُ، وَذَكَرَهُمْ اللَّهُ فِيمَنْ عِنْدَهُ

Translation: Abu Huraira (رضی اللہ عنہ) and Abu Saeed Khudri (رضی اللہ عنہ) narrate that they visited the Holy Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) and he said, “Whenever people sit to remember Allah (SWT), angels cover them (spreading their wings over them) and divine mercy envelops them; inner peace descends on them and Allah (SWT) mentions them to those who are with Him.”

References:
► Muslim, as-Sahih (4:2074#2700)
► Tirmidhi, al-Jami-us-sahih (5:459#3378)
► Ibn Majah, as-Sunan (2:1245#3791)
► Ibn Abi Shaybah, al-Musannaf (6:60#29475)
► Tabarani, al-Mujam-ul-awsat (2:137#1500)
► Ahmad bin Hambal, al-Musnad (3:92#11893)
► Tayalisi, al-Musnad (1:296#2233)
► Tayalisi, al-Musnad (1:314#2386)
► Abu Yala, al-Musnad (2:444#1252)
► Abu Yala, al-Musnad (11:20#6159)

So dragnet, how dare you said even if they chant SHAHADAH during mawlud, it is not sunnah and not rewardable?. See, in my opinion,

Salafiyah is mathematics. Sufiyah is further math

Salafiyah is English. Sufiyah is English literature

You understand my analogy?

Another ahadith states:


عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ رضي الله عنه، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلي الله عليه وآله وسلم، قَالَ: إِنَّ لِلَّهِ تَبَارَكَ وَتَعَالَى مَلَائِكَةً سَيَّارَةً فُضُلًا يَتَتَبَّعُونَ مَجَالِسَ الذِّكْرِ، فَإِذَا وَجَدُوا مَجْلِسًا فِيهِ ذِكْرٌ، قَعَدُوا مَعَهُمْ وَحَفَّ بَعْضُهُمْ بَعْضًا بِأَجْنِحَتِهِمْ، حَتَّى يَمْلَئُوا مَا بَيْنَهُمْ وَبَيْنَ السَّمَاءِ الدُّنْيَا

Translation: According to Abu Huraira the Holy Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) said, “There are many angels of Allah (SWT), besides those assigned with normal tasks, who travel around looking for remembrance sessions. When they find such a session where remembrance of Allah is in progress, they sit with them and some angels cover the others with their wings ascending one above another until the space between the earth and the lowest heaven gets filled….”

References:
► Muslim, as-Sahih (4:2069#2689)
► Ahmad bin Hambal, al-Musnad (2:252#7420)
► Ahmad bin Hambal, al-Musnad (2:382#8960)
► Mundhiri, at-Targhib wat-tarhib (2:259#2316)
► Mundhiri, at-Targhib wat-tarhib (4:244#5523)




Hadith #10

عَنْ أَنَسٍ رضي الله عنه عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلي الله عليه وآله وسلم قَالَ: إِنَّ لِلهِ سَيَّارَةً مِنَ الْمَلَائِكَةِ يَطْلُبُوْنَ حِلَقَ الذِّكْرِ. فَإِذَا حَفَوا عَلَيْهِمْ وَأَتَوْا بِهِمْ، ثُمَّ بَعَثُوا رَائِدَهُم إِلَى السَّمَاءِ إِلَى رَبِّ الْعِزَّةِ تَبَارَكَ وَتَعَالَى

Translation: Anas (رضی اللہ عنہ) narrates from the Holy Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) that he said, “Some angels of Allah (SWT) remain wandering in search of remembrance circles. When the angels come to them, they cover those people and then send their leader to the heavens in the Divine Presence….

Reference:
Haythami, Majma-uz-zawaid (10:77)



Allah (SWT) asks angels about His Dhikr doers.


Hadith #11

عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ أَوْ عَنْ أَبِي سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِيِّ رضي الله عنهما قَالَ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلي الله عليه وآله وسلم: إِنَّ لِلَّهِ مَلَائِكَةً سَيَّاحِينَ فِي الْأَرْضِ فُضُلًا عَنْ كُتَّابِ النَّاسِ، فَإِذَا وَجَدُوا أَقْوَامًا يَذْكُرُونَ اللَّهَ تَنَادَوْا هَلُمُّوا إِلَى بُغْيَتِكُمْ. فَيَجِيئُونَ فَيَحُفُّونَ بِهِمْ إِلَى السَّمَاءِ الدُّنْيَا، فَيَقُولُ اللَّهُ: عَلَى أَيِّ شَيْءٍ تَرَكْتُمْ عِبَادِي يَصْنَعُونَ؟ فَيَقُولُونَ: تَرَكْنَاهُمْ يَحْمَدُونَكَ وَيُمَجِّدُونَكَ وَيَذْكُرُونَكَ. قَالَ: فَيَقُولُ: فَهَلْ رَأَوْنِي؟ فَيَقُولُونَ: لَا. قَالَ: فَيَقُولُ: فَكَيْفَ لَوْ رَأَوْنِي؟ قَالَ: فَيَقُولُونَ: لَوْ رَأَوْكَ لَكَانُوا أَشَدَّ تَحْمِيدًا وَأَشَدَّ تَمْجِيدًا وَأَشَدَّ لَكَ ذِكْرًا. قَالَ: فَيَقُولُ: وَأَيُّ شَيْءٍ يَطْلُبُونَ؟ قَالَ: فَيَقُولُونَ: يَطْلُبُونَ الْجَنَّةَ. قَالَ: فَيَقُولُ: وَهَلْ رَأَوْهَا؟ قَالَ: فَيَقُولُونَ: لَا. قَالَ: فَيَقُولُ: فَكَيْفَ لَوْ رَأَوْهَا؟ قَالَ: فَيَقُولُونَ: لَوْ رَأَوْهَا لَكَانُوا أَشَدَّ لَهَا طَلَبًا وَأَشَدَّ عَلَيْهَا حِرْصًا. قَالَ: فَيَقُولُ: فَمِنْ أَيِّ شَيْءٍ يَتَعَوَّذُونَ؟ قَالُوا: يَتَعَوَّذُونَ مِنْ النَّارِ. قَالَ: فَيَقُولُ: هَلْ رَأَوْهَا؟ فَيَقُولُونَ: لَا. فَيَقُولُ: فَكَيْفَ لَوْ رَأَوْهَا؟ فَيَقُولُونَ: لَوْ رَأَوْهَا لَكَانُوا أَشَدَّ مِنْهَا هَرَبًا وَأَشَدَّ مِنْهَا خَوْفًا وَأَشَدَّ مِنْهَا تَعَوُّذًا. قَالَ: فَيَقُولُ: فَإِنِّي أُشْهِدُكُمْ أَنِّي قَدْ غَفَرْتُ لَهُمْ. فَيَقُولُونَ: إِنَّ فِيهِمْ فُلَانًا الْخَطَّاءَ لَمْ يُرِدْهُمْ، إِنَّمَا جَاءَهُمْ لِحَاجَةٍ. فَيَقُولُ: هُمْ الْقَوْمُ لَا يَشْقَى لَهُمْ جَلِيسٌ

Translation: Abu Huraira or Abu Saeed Khudri (رضی اللہ عنھما) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) said, “There are many angels of Allah (SWT), other than the ones who record deeds, who wander around on earth. When they find some people performing remembrance of Allah (SWT), they call other angels, saying, ‘Come to what you are looking for.’ So they come and cover those people up to the lowest heaven. Then Allah (SWT) says, ‘What were My servants doing when you left them?’ The angels say, ‘O Lord, we left them praising You, magnifying You and remembering You.’ Allah (SWT) says, ‘Have they seen Me?’ They reply, ‘No.’” The Messenger of Allah (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) said, “Allah (SWT) says, ‘What would have been their condition if they had seen Me?’ They say, ‘If they had seen You, they would have praised You, magnified You and remembered You far more.’ Allah (SWT) says, ‘What are they asking for?’ They reply, ‘They are asking You for Paradise.’ He says, ‘Have they seen it?’ They reply, ‘No.’ He says, ‘What would have been their state if they had seen it?’ They reply, ‘If they had seen it, they would have asked for it more intensely and desired it more earnestly.’ Allah says, ‘What are they seeking My protection from?’ The angels say, ‘They are seeking Your protection from the Fire.’ Allah (SWT) says, ‘Have they seen it?’ They reply, ‘No.’ Allah (SWT) says, ‘What would have been their condition if they had seen it?’ They reply, ‘If they had seen it, they would have fled from it, feared it and sought Your refuge from it even more intensely.’ Allah says, ‘Then bear witness that I have forgiven them.’ They say, ‘There is so and so a great sinner among them; he came only for his personal interest and not to join in remembrance.’ Allah (SWT) says, ‘These are such people that even their companion is not left destitute and unfortunate.’”

Reference:
Tirmidhi, al-Jami-us-sahih (5:579#3600)


Allahu Akbar! what a wonderful hadith the last one. I heard this last hadith first quoted by Sheikh Daud Alfa Nla in a Mawlud against those who oppose it.

So dragnet, basically you show enmity toward sufis who do lots of dhikr in whatever forms as indicated in ahadith i quoted up there. Now, read this hadith.


On the authority of Abu Hurayra(may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the messanger of Allah (saw) said:

Allah(mighty and sublime to He) said: Whosoever shows enmity to someone devoted to Me, I shall be at war with him. My servant draws not near to Me with anything more loved by Me than the religious duties I have enjoined upon him., and My servant continues to draw near to Me with supererogatory works so that I shall love him. When I love him I am his hearing with which he hears, with seeing with which he sees, hand with which he strikes and his foot with which he walks. Were he to ask (something) of Me, I would surely give it to him, and were he to ask Me for refuge, I would surely grant him it. I do not hesitate about anything as much as I hesitate about (seizing) the soul of My faithful servant: he hates death and I hate hurting him. It was ralated by al-Bukhari

empiree.... if you like accept, if you like don't..


maulid is bidiah.

and as long as bidiah is concern.. citing or reciting Quran on maulid day doesn't make mawlid not bidiah..


and your posts concerning dikr are correct and dragnet isn't against it

^ lol, and other than 5 daily salat, is there any religious activities you do besides Juma'a?

Ramadan, zakat and Haj are once a year. What else do you do during the 12 months period?

That dragnet and salafis at large are against group dhikr, and the forms of dhikr mentioned in those ahadith. Go and confirm from them. There debates on group dhikr being questionable by the salafis on Youtube.

A gathering has to be titled something isn't?

Even Mawlud is not done once a yr. Some do it several times a yr to avoid criticism "why only mawlud day they lecture on seerat, dhikr etc"

So there is no verse of Quran nor hadith that forbids mawlud. Bring it on if you have one. I am not even done yet. There ahadith showing rosul(saw) slaughtering sheep showing gratitude to Allah. The hadith is used by those who celebrate mawlud as well. I haven't even talk about that yet. And to be honest, there isnt anything in Quran or hadith with this phrase:

"My Ummah shall celebrate mawlud". It is just a supererogatory act borne out innocent idea. A mere gatherings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZWfOSKORLU

ShaheedBinAliyu:
to me... it's a very bad thing to recite. . it's source is filthy

this is alhusunnah guy just in case some people don't know. He's the same Deathstroke, plumber Jabata, aboohakeema. He's the same babaheekmat and other monikers of his that I don't remember

Empiree:
this is alhusunnah guy just in case some people don't know. He's the same Deathstroke, plumber Jabata, aboohakeema. He's the same babaheekmat and other monikers of his that I don't remember

Baba jalabi

Una still dey recite solatu faati?

NeoWanZaeed:


Baba jalabi

Una still dey recite solatu faati?

Oya, hug transformer



بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

اللهم صل على سيدنا محمد الفاتح لما أغلق والخاتم لما سبق ناصر الحق بالحق والهادي إلى صراطك المستقيم وعلى آله حق قدره ومقداره العظيم




« O ALLAH, send blessings on our Master Muhammad, who opened what was closed, who sealed what had gone before, the helper of Truth by the Truth, the guide to Your straight path, and on his family, may these blessings be equal to his immense position and grandeur.

NeoWanZaeed:


Baba jalabi

Una still dey recite solatu faati?

Na everybody you dey fight with here, what is your problem? Even your fellow slaves in Islam Empiree AntiChristian etc you dey fight with them.. Alfa Jalabi the plumber what is your stress?

I THINK IS HARAM

fadal:
I THINK IS HARAM

can you tell us more and how?