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Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Lukgaf(m): 7:12am On Dec 01, 2017
As salam alaikum warahmotullah wa barakatuhu.

Alhamdulillah Robil Aalaamee, we are in the month of Rabbiul awwal, which is the month when our Noble Prophet, the Master of all Masters, the Noblest of all Nobles, our Prophet Muhammod - salal Allahu alayhi wa salam - was born. But all over the world, they have turned this month into a celebration of some sort, the celebration we all refer to "Moulud Nabiyy".

Our prophet when he was alived, he did not celebrate this day,nor was he celebrated by his Sahaba after his demise. So what's now our problem of doin what the salafis didn't do.

Below are some cogent reasons why we should not celebrate Milad un Nabawiy.

1. "Milad" (birthday) is not in Islamic shariah, it was later introduced by the Shia Fatimd in Egypt.

2. Historians differed about the date of birth of Prophet Muhammod (s.a.w.s). Some said it's Ramadan, some in Shaban and some in Rabiul awwal.

3. Birthday celebrations have pagan roots, celebrating birthday is not allowed at all.

4. The celebration is neither from sunnah nor Qur'an. Anything that is not part of these two can not be part of islam.

5. Prophet s.a.w.s said, "stick to my sunnah and the sunnah of my rightly guided caliphs, beware of newly invented matters, for every new matter is a Bid'ah and every Bid'ah is misleading." (Trimidhi 2676).

6. Allah says in surah Al Maidah,ayah 3. "This day, I have perfected your religion for you." when Islam is perfect and complete, then who gave the authority to these people to introduce new concepts in Islam?

7. Celebrating 'Milaad' is imitations of Christians and Jews. Jews celebrate birthday of Uzair, while Christians celebrate birthday of Isa (A.s).

8. Prophet Muhammod (s.a.w.s) said, " whoever imitates a sect or people becomes one of them". (Abu Dawood).

9. Prophet Muhammod also said, "be different from Mushrikeen (the Unbelievers)." (Sahih muslim).

10. Prophet Muhammod(s.a.w.s) again said, "Do not exaggerate in praising me".
Wa Allahu Ahlam.

I Pray Allah increase our Eeman and guide us to the right path. Aameen

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by duduwest(m): 7:54am On Dec 01, 2017
Hidina siraata l mustaqim. WA Allahu aalam

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Rashduct4luv(m): 7:58am On Dec 01, 2017
Let me share this questions copied from whatsapp.


MAOLUD PROMO WIN AWSRD!

One of our Sincere Brother wants us to repeat his Yearly Eight Millions Questions. For every correct Answer will give you ONE MILLION. The questions goes thus:

(1) Which Year did our beloved Prophet Muhammad (SAW) first Celebrate his Birthday?

(2) Which Mosque Was Used For The Celebration?

(3) Who Delivered Lecture And on what Topic?

(4) Who Designed The Cake for the celebration?

(5) Which Year and Venue did Caliph Abu Bakr Siddiq celebrate the prophet's MAULD NABIYY?

(6) How many MAWLUD NABIYY did Umar celebrate during his caliphate?

(7) Which Year and Venue did Uthman and Ali did their Mawlud Nabiyy?

(cool Where in the Holy Qur'an has ALLAH prescribed Mawlud Nabiyy?


I hope lucky winners will emerge this Year.
HURRY THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE.

However, The answers must come with Evidence in Qur'an and or Hadith Or Pious Predecessors.

Pls don't comment if you've got no evidence-based answers

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Rashduct4luv(m): 8:08am On Dec 01, 2017
Lukgaf:
As salam alaikum warahmotullah wa barakatuhu.

Alhamdulillah Robil Aalaamee, we are in the month of Rabbiul awwal, which is the month when our Noble Prophet, the Master of all Masters, the Noblest of all Nobles, our Prophet Muhammod - salal Allahu alayhi wa salam - was born. But all over the world, they have turned this month into a celebration of some sort, the celebration we all refer to "Moulud Nabiyy".

Our prophet when he was alived, he did not celebrate this day,nor was he celebrated by his Sahaba after his demise. So what's now our problem of doin what the salafis didn't do.

Below are some cogent reasons why we should not celebrate Milad un Nabawiy.

1. "Milad" (birthday) is not in Islamic shariah, it was later introduced by the Shia Fatimd in Egypt.

2. Historians differed about the date of birth of Prophet Muhammod (s.a.w.s). Some said it's Ramadan, some in Shaban and some in Rabiul awwal.

3. Birthday celebrations have pagan roots, celebrating birthday is not allowed at all.

4. The celebration is neither from sunnah nor Qur'an. Anything that is not part of these two can not be part of islam.

5. Prophet s.a.w.s said, "stick to my sunnah and the sunnah of my rightly guided caliphs, beware of newly invented matters, for every new matter is a Bid'ah and every Bid'ah is misleading." (Trimidhi 2676).

6. Allah says in surah Al Maidah,ayah 3. "This day, I have perfected your religion for you." when Islam is perfect and complete, then who gave the authority to these people to introduce new concepts in Islam?

7. Celebrating 'Milaad' is imitations of Christians and Jews. Jews celebrate birthday of Uzair, while Christians celebrate birthday of Isa (A.s).

8. Prophet Muhammod (s.a.w.s) said, " whoever imitates a sect or people becomes one of them". (Abu Dawood).

9. Prophet Muhammod also said, "be different from Mushrikeen (the Unbelievers)." (Sahih muslim).

10. Prophet Muhammod(s.a.w.s) again said, "Do not exaggerate in praising me".
Wa Allahu Ahlam.

I Pray Allah increase our Eeman and guide us to the right path. Aameen


Aameen bro. Those who benefit monetarily from this will never leave it. Even a sane man will know that birthdays should not be celebrated for "a dead man". But the exaggeration you said in Number 10 coupled with the love of money plus bid'ia (and the hatred for Sunnah) will never let them return to the path. Why do we have to imitate others? We have the Qur'an and Sunnah. All acts of worship are already specified, so why do we need additions? I hope those who celebrate it from 12 Rabiu al awwal to Ramadan will stop.

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by AlBaqir(m): 9:15am On Dec 01, 2017
Lukgaf:


Our prophet when he was alived, he did not celebrate this day,nor was he celebrated by his Sahaba after his demise. So what's now our problem of doin what the salafis didn't do.

# Who told you Prophet didn't "celebrate" his birthday? For a fact, he did mark his birthday every week in a form of worship and praise to his Lord, by fasting. That was what limited document recorded.

# As per the bold, did your salaf ever used " radi'allahu anhu/ha" for themselves during their lifetime? Why are you doing what your Salafs didn't do by saying that phrase after the mention of anyone of them?


Lukgaf:

Below are some cogent reasons why we should not celebrate Milad un Nabawiy.


1. "Milad" (birthday) is not in Islamic shariah, it was later introduced by the Shia Fatimd in Egypt.


# You want to define Islamic sharia for us?

For a fact, nobody has ever come out and claim "Milad" is an obligatory act in the equivalent of Salat, Sawm, Zakat and Hajj.

And for a clear fact, Qur'anic order which we are not even observing dutifully is this:

"That you [people] may believe in Allah and His Messenger and honor him and respect the him and exalt Him morning and afternoon" Quran 48: 9


# And how's the fact that Shia Fatimi of Egypt were the establisher of Mawlud Nabiy made it forbidden to "celebrate" Mawlud?

For a fact, this same Shia Fatimi were the first to establish Islamic university - the prestigious al-Ahzar in Cairo that has produced many Sunni scholars. Why was that not seen as forbidden act?


# Observing Mawlud is a good act in many ways - it honour the Prophet, it brings all Muslims together (where we put aside our differences), its a dhikr (remembrance) of our Prophet etc.

Surah Al-Anaam, vs 160:

"Whoever brings a good deed, he shall have ten like it, and whoever brings an evil deed, he shall be recompensed only with the like of it, and they shall not be
dealt with unjustly
.


Imam Muslim documents this Hadith:

The Prophet says:

He who introduced some good practice in Islam which was followed after him (by people) he would be assured of reward like one who followed it, without their rewards being diminished in any respect. And he who introduced some evil practice in Islam which had been followed subsequently (by others), he would be required to bear the burden like that of one who followed this (evil practice) without their's being diminished in any respect.

Hadith # 6466
https://sunnah.com/muslim/47/26



Lukgaf:

2. Historians differed about the date of birth of Prophet Muhammod (s.a.w.s). Some said it's Ramadan, some in Shaban and some in Rabiul awwal.

# So, is this really a reason to tag Mawlud a forbidden act?

Anyway, for a clear fact, most widely acceptable date is Rabiul Awwal. Other dates do not have reliable source.



Lukgaf:

3. Birthday celebrations have pagan roots, celebrating birthday is not allowed at all.

# Are we celebrating the pagan way? Whenever your Saudi masters are celebrating Al-Saud state anniversary with giant cake designed with the picture of King Salman, that obviously is Pagan way and we wonder where were your fatwa manufacturing scholars (starting from troglodyte Mufti of Saudi) to declare it Haram but they are too quick to carelessly declare Mawlud an Haram act.


# For a fact, in Sura Maryam, Allah specifically made mention of 3 days in human life: his day of BIRTH, DEATH and RESURRECTION.

* And practically, our Lord "sends" His abundant salam upon His Prophets Yahya and Eesa. Were these two blessed anbiya devoid of Allah's blessings outside these 3 days? Why did Allah specifically mention those days?

* If that could be done to Yahya and Eesa, why not for Imam of anbiya, hazrat Muhammad, salallahu alayhi wa ahli?!

* Believers are commanded in surah Ahzab: 56 to send Praise and Salam upon the Prophet. A specific dates (of birth, death and resurrection) were mention (in the case of Yahya and Eesa), so how's "celebrating Mawlud" with lots of salawat wa Salam upon Nabi a forbidden act?!


Lukgaf:

4. The celebration is neither from sunnah nor Qur'an. Anything that is not part of these two can not be part of islam.


# So in your belief, anything not mentioned by these two sources is not Islam?

Neither Qur'an nor Hadith ORDERED the believers:

* to say, radiyallahu anhum after mentioning any Sahabi

* to place your forehead in sujjud upon rug or carpet, on the contrary Nabi only placed and emphasised on doing sajdah upon the EARTH, DUST.

* to perform 20 rakat tarawih in Jama'ah after salat Ishai, for 29/30 days. (The closest submission you could bring is that Prophet only prayed his usual qiyam layl of 11 rakaat, and not after Ishai 20 rakaat. And for a fact, those 3 or 4 days that sahabah prayed behind him uninvited were documented to be 23rd, 25th, 27th midnights of Ramadan).

* Lots of examples to count from.

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Lukgaf(m): 9:22am On Dec 01, 2017
AlBaqir:


# Who told you Prophet didn't "celebrate" his birthday? For a fact, he did mark his birthday every week in a form of worship and praise to his Lord, by fasting. That was what limited document recorded.

# As per the bold, did your salaf ever used " radi'allahu anhu/ha" for themselves during their lifetime? Why are you doing what your Salafs didn't do by saying that phrase after the mention of anyone of them?





# You want to define Islamic sharia for us?

For a fact, nobody has ever come out and claim "Milad" is an obligatory act in the equivalent of Salat, Sawm, Zakat and Hajj.

And for a clear fact, Qur'anic order which we are not even observing dutifully is this:

"That you [people] may believe in Allah and His Messenger and honor him and respect the him and exalt Him morning and afternoon" Quran 48: 9


# And how's the fact that Shia Fatimi of Egypt were the establisher of Mawlud Nabiy made it forbidden to "celebrate" Mawlud?

For a fact, this same Shia Fatimi were the first to establish Islamic university - the prestigious al-Ahzar in Cairo that has produced many Sunni scholars. Why was that not seen as forbidden act?


# Observing Mawlud is a good act in many ways - it honour the Prophet, it brings all Muslims together (where we put aside our differences), its a dhikr (remembrance) of our Prophet etc.

Surah Al-Anaam, vs 160:

"Whoever brings a good deed, he shall have ten like it, and whoever brings an evil deed, he shall be recompensed only with the like of it, and they shall not be
dealt with unjustly
.


Imam Muslim documents this Hadith:

The Prophet says:

He who introduced some good practice in Islam which was followed after him (by people) he would be assured of reward like one who followed it, without their rewards being diminished in any respect. And he who introduced some evil practice in Islam which had been followed subsequently (by others), he would be required to bear the burden like that of one who followed this (evil practice) without their's being diminished in any respect.

Hadith # 6466
https://sunnah.com/muslim/47/26





# So, is this really a reason to tag Mawlud a forbidden act?

Anyway, for a clear fact, most widely acceptable date is Rabiul Awwal. Other dates do not have reliable source.





# Are we celebrating the pagan way? Whenever your Saudi masters are celebrating Al-Saud state anniversary with giant cake designed with the picture of King Salman, that obviously is Pagan way and we wonder where were your fatwa manufacturing scholars (starting from troglodyte Mufti of Saudi) to declare it Haram but they are too quick to carelessly declare Mawlud an Haram act.


# For a fact, in Sura Maryam, Allah specifically made mention of 3 days in human life: his day of BIRTH, DEATH and RESURRECTION.

* And practically, our Lord "sends" His abundant salam upon His Prophets Yahya and Eesa. Were these two blessed anbiya devoid of Allah's blessings outside these 3 days? Why did Allah specifically mention those days?

* If that could be done to Yahya and Eesa, why not for Imam of anbiya, hazrat Muhammad, [I]salallahu alayhi wa ahli[/i]?!

* Believers are commanded in surah Ahzab: 56 to send Praise and Salam upon the Prophet. A specific dates (of birth, death and resurrection) were mention (in the case of Yahya and Eesa), so how's "celebrating Mawlud" with lots of salawat wa Salam upon Nabi a forbidden act?!





# So in your belief, anything not mentioned by these two sources is not Islam?

Neither Qur'an nor Hadith ORDERED the believers:

* to say, radiyallahu anhum after mentioning any Sahabi

* to place your forehead in sujjud upon rug or carpet, on the contrary Nabi only placed and emphasised on doing sajdah upon the EARTH, DUST.

* to perform 20 rakat tarawih in Jama'ah after salat Ishai, for 29/30 days. (The closest submission you could bring is that Prophet only prayed his usual qiyam layl of 11 rakaat, and not after Ishai 20 rakaat. And for a fact, those 3 or 4 days that sahabah prayed behind him uninvited were documented to be 23rd, 25th, 27th midnights of Ramadan).

* Lots of examples to count from.

So u are among them. but can you kindly ponder over all what I wrote rather than just criticing with flimsy excuses. Bring your evidences from Quran and Hadith with the notable scholars of Sunnah that have said the same with you.

pls let's be sincere and refrain from attitude we can not defend in Qiyama

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by excanny: 9:33am On Dec 01, 2017
See what religion has done to tear apart and divide humans who ought to be brothers within the short period we are here.

Just a simple holiday to rest turned to a battleground for hate and self-righteousness.

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by AlBaqir(m): 9:34am On Dec 01, 2017
Lukgaf:

5. Prophet s.a.w.s said, "stick to my sunnah and the sunnah of my rightly guided caliphs, beware of newly invented matters, for every new matter is a Bid'ah and every Bid'ah is misleading." (Trimidhi 2676).

# We have established above that Mawlud is never a Bid'ah rather it is a "good deed" with sound intention. Introducing a good deed in Islam whereby people follow suit is encouraged by the Quran and Sunnah. We have established this already.


Lukgaf:

6. Allah says in surah Al Maidah,ayah 3. "This day, I have perfected your religion for you." when Islam is perfect and complete, then who gave the authority to these people to introduce new concepts in Islam?

# How's introducing "good deed" which Quran and Sunnah supported "a new concept of Islam"?

Please explain to us?


Lukgaf:

7. Celebrating 'Milaad' is imitations of Christians and Jews. Jews celebrate birthday of Uzair, while Christians celebrate birthday of Isa (A.s).


8. Prophet Muhammod (s.a.w.s) said, " whoever imitates a sect or people becomes one of them". (Abu Dawood).

# Kindly give us a reference of the Jew celebrating the birthday of Uzair as Christian celebrate that of Jesus.

# For a fact, there are lots of very common practices between the Muslims and the Jews (and old true Christians). What set us apart is our intentions and the way we practice those things.

Has any Muslim lit up a Mawlud Nabiy tree (mimicking Xmas trees)?

Has any Muslim start a concept of father Mawlud (mimicking father Xmas)?

Has any Muslim make giant cake in the name of Mawlud?

So, how is that imitating Jew and Christian?

# For a fact, following is how Muslims are expected to "celebrate Mawlud"

1. Reciting (in form of eulogy or lecture) the sirah, virtues, and praise of Nabi

2. Sending salawat and Salam upon him and his households

3. Muslims coming together as one Ummah, sharing gifts among ourselves

4. Tending to the poor, needy irrespective of their race or religion


Lukgaf:

9. Prophet Muhammod also said, "be different from Mushrikeen (the Unbelievers)." (Sahih muslim).

10. Prophet Muhammod(s.a.w.s) again said, "Do not exaggerate in praising me".

# Muslims who celebrate Mawlud correctly have nothing to do with Mushriqun.

# And how's " celebrating Mawlud" translate to "exaggerating of him"? And if you quote the Hadith fully, it ends that, " just like the Christian exaggerated Eesa". So, how did the Christian exaggerated Nabi Eesa? They called him "God" and "son of God" and "3 in 1 God". Is this what Muslims who observe Mawlud doing?

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by AlBaqir(m): 9:41am On Dec 01, 2017
Lukgaf:


So u are among them. but can you kindly ponder over all what I wrote rather than just criticing with flimsy excuses. Bring your evidences from Quran and Hadith with the notable scholars of Sunnah that have said the same with you.

pls let's be sincere and refrain from attitude we can not defend in Qiyama

# Yes, I am among those who sincerely celebrate Mawlud with specific intentions (which are clearly stated above).

# I have responded to your cobweb submission one after the other referring to Quran and Sunnah. Hold your breath, sit back and re-read. The ball is now in your court to counter.

# Kindly, give me a single reference where Allah and His Nabi ordered me to follow any self acclaimed "scholars of Sunnah".

Thanks

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Teeboi56: 9:47am On Dec 01, 2017
duduwest:
Hidina siraata l mustaqim. WA Allahu aalam
Na soo brother
Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by AlBaqir(m): 9:48am On Dec 01, 2017
excanny:
See what religion has done to tear apart and divide humans who ought to be brothers within the short period we are here.

Just a simple holiday to rest turned to a battleground for hate and self-righteousness.

# Point of correction. Do not accuse religion what followers should be accused of. For a fact, religion of Islam ordered unity among its adherents. It is the Muslims with their ego, fanaticism, intolerance, pride, love of world, etc that are disuniting themselves. This is not only peculiar to the Muslims, as its cut across every religion and every organisation.

# Normally, man with his intellect and freedom/freewill is expected to differ in understanding, opinion and view to his fellows. Ability to differ to agree, to share differences and understand and respect our differing view is called maturity.

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Rashduct4luv(m): 9:50am On Dec 01, 2017
Bro. Lukgaf, Leave AlBaqir alone. We know his position in antagonising Sunnah with psychology and wild psychoanalysis!

You don't need to argue with him.

Our intention matters and also our deeds. All deeds of worship must be in line with what the Prophet and the Companions did. And the

You have already finish the topic. Let him rant.

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by fay39: 9:51am On Dec 01, 2017
masha Allah. may Allah continue to guide us
Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by msbbash(m): 9:52am On Dec 01, 2017
ﺩﻉِ ﺍﻟﺠﺪﺍﻝَ ﻭﺻﻞّ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ Neglect Argument and eulogise him
Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Ahmadabd(m): 9:53am On Dec 01, 2017
why dont you fast just as the prophet himself did? Ya Allah guide us to your straight path and to the sunnah of your Nabiyy(SAW).

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Nobody: 9:55am On Dec 01, 2017
AlBaqir:


# Point of correction. Do not accuse religion what followers should be accused of. For a fact, religion of Islam ordered unity among its adherents. It is the Muslims with their ego, fanaticism, intolerance, pride, love of world, etc that are disuniting themselves. This is not only peculiar to the Muslims, as its cut across every religion and every organisation.

# Normally, man with his intellect and freedom/freewill is expected to differ in understanding, opinion and view to his fellows. Ability to differ to agree, to share differences and understand and respect our differing view is called maturity.

Well said brother.

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Rashduct4luv(m): 9:57am On Dec 01, 2017
THE AUDACITY OF RELIGIOUS RUBBISH-NONSENSE

The shenanigan and charade that is being celebrated today as Mawlidu'n-Nabiyy (birthday of the Prophet Muhammad (upon him be peace) is a gargantuan religious scam, and does not worth my precious time and ink. It is not a matter of how strong your proof is in trying to establish the propriety or impropriety of the fraud called Mawlidu'n-Nabiyy, but how cerebral and rational you're in sifting facts from farce.
I have read online several writeups by the proponents of celebration of the Mawlidu'n-Nabiyy who, in their usual bidiatic stance stringed together illogical logics and unreasonable reasons to protect their "business". The arguments are funny, watery and absurd, to say the least.

I stopped debating anyone on Mawlidu'n-Nabiyy the day someone I used to call my friend told me that "Lakum deenukum wa liya deen" after I had countered all his claims. I looked at him and said, "Do you understand the meaning of the verse you've just quoted? Is there a religion other than the religion of Islam, or are you making takfeer on me?" In any case, that was the last time we were ever friends. I have since moved on.

That over 600 years after the Prophet's demise was when a Fatimid King, Al-Muzaffar innovated this celebration is enough evidence to convince any sincere and serious Muslim to not participate in, or promote this baseless festival. Still, the funniest part is that the charade has just started, it will take a whole year to finish.
From now on, each self-acclaimed Alfa will choose his own date to celebrate the Mawlid. Lols.... Confused people. Even Christians will not celebrate Christmas beyond the 25th of December! How do you justify that?

Then, they will graduate to celebrating the birthday of their acclaimed Shaykh: Niyass, Ahmad Tijani, Muhammad Awwal here in Omupo, Jamiu Bulala in Offa, et cetera. Where is the proof for all of those too?

when there's no evidence for an act of worship, people can just invent anything as they like.

May Allah protect us from all heresies and misguidance.

Sirnucy Laf

Make I return to my work as no holiday for me today...

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by AlBaqir(m): 9:58am On Dec 01, 2017
Rashduct4luv:



Aameen bro. Those who benefit monetarily from this will never leave it.

# That is on those who had commercialised it. Their bad observation of Mawlud should not be used to smear those who observed it under the guidelines of the Sharia.

# For a fact, many things have been abused by the Muslims, even obligatory Salat, sawn, zakat and hajj.

Rashduct4luv:

Even a sane man will know that birthdays should not be celebrated for "a dead man".

# In two separate ayah, Allah puts it to the face of people like you thus:

"Do not say to those who died in the path of Allah as 'dead', rather they are ALIVE, but you do not perceive"

# And sahih Hadith says, every Fridays, records of Muslim's deeds are being presented to the Prophet. Is that a characteristic of a "dead man"?


Rashduct4luv:

But the exaggeration you said in Number 10 coupled with the love of money plus bid'ia (and the hatred for Sunnah) will never let them return to the path. Why do we have to imitate others? We have the Qur'an and Sunnah. All acts of worship are already specified, so why do we need additions? I hope those who celebrate it from 12 Rabiu al awwal to Ramadan will stop.

# I have responded to all these untenable excuses above.

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Nobody: 10:02am On Dec 01, 2017
AlBaqir:


# Who told you Prophet didn't "celebrate" his birthday? For a fact, he did mark his birthday every week in a form of worship and praise to his Lord, by fasting. That was what limited document recorded.

# As per the bold, did your salaf ever used " radi'allahu anhu/ha" for themselves during their lifetime? Why are you doing what your Salafs didn't do by saying that phrase after the mention of anyone of them?





# You want to define Islamic sharia for us?

For a fact, nobody has ever come out and claim "Milad" is an obligatory act in the equivalent of Salat, Sawm, Zakat and Hajj.

And for a clear fact, Qur'anic order which we are not even observing dutifully is this:

"That you [people] may believe in Allah and His Messenger and honor him and respect the him and exalt Him morning and afternoon" Quran 48: 9


# And how's the fact that Shia Fatimi of Egypt were the establisher of Mawlud Nabiy made it forbidden to "celebrate" Mawlud?

For a fact, this same Shia Fatimi were the first to establish Islamic university - the prestigious al-Ahzar in Cairo that has produced many Sunni scholars. Why was that not seen as forbidden act?


# Observing Mawlud is a good act in many ways - it honour the Prophet, it brings all Muslims together (where we put aside our differences), its a dhikr (remembrance) of our Prophet etc.

Surah Al-Anaam, vs 160:

"Whoever brings a good deed, he shall have ten like it, and whoever brings an evil deed, he shall be recompensed only with the like of it, and they shall not be
dealt with unjustly
.


Imam Muslim documents this Hadith:

The Prophet says:

He who introduced some good practice in Islam which was followed after him (by people) he would be assured of reward like one who followed it, without their rewards being diminished in any respect. And he who introduced some evil practice in Islam which had been followed subsequently (by others), he would be required to bear the burden like that of one who followed this (evil practice) without their's being diminished in any respect.

Hadith # 6466
https://sunnah.com/muslim/47/26





# So, is this really a reason to tag Mawlud a forbidden act?

Anyway, for a clear fact, most widely acceptable date is Rabiul Awwal. Other dates do not have reliable source.





# Are we celebrating the pagan way? Whenever your Saudi masters are celebrating Al-Saud state anniversary with giant cake designed with the picture of King Salman, that obviously is Pagan way and we wonder where were your fatwa manufacturing scholars (starting from troglodyte Mufti of Saudi) to declare it Haram but they are too quick to carelessly declare Mawlud an Haram act.


# For a fact, in Sura Maryam, Allah specifically made mention of 3 days in human life: his day of BIRTH, DEATH and RESURRECTION.

* And practically, our Lord "sends" His abundant salam upon His Prophets Yahya and Eesa. Were these two blessed anbiya devoid of Allah's blessings outside these 3 days? Why did Allah specifically mention those days?

* If that could be done to Yahya and Eesa, why not for Imam of anbiya, hazrat Muhammad, salallahu alayhi wa ahli?!

* Believers are commanded in surah Ahzab: 56 to send Praise and Salam upon the Prophet. A specific dates (of birth, death and resurrection) were mention (in the case of Yahya and Eesa), so how's "celebrating Mawlud" with lots of salawat wa Salam upon Nabi a forbidden act?!





# So in your belief, anything not mentioned by these two sources is not Islam?

Neither Qur'an nor Hadith ORDERED the believers:

* to say, radiyallahu anhum after mentioning any Sahabi

* to place your forehead in sujjud upon rug or carpet, on the contrary Nabi only placed and emphasised on doing sajdah upon the EARTH, DUST.

* to perform 20 rakat tarawih in Jama'ah after salat Ishai, for 29/30 days. (The closest submission you could bring is that Prophet only prayed his usual qiyam layl of 11 rakaat, and not after Ishai 20 rakaat. And for a fact, those 3 or 4 days that sahabah prayed behind him uninvited were documented to be 23rd, 25th, 27th midnights of Ramadan).

* Lots of examples to count from.
you're going to destroy yourself with your intellect
Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by excanny: 10:06am On Dec 01, 2017
AlBaqir:


# Point of correction. Do not accuse religion what followers should be accused of. For a fact, religion of Islam ordered unity among its adherents. It is the Muslims with their ego, fanaticism, intolerance, pride, love of world, etc that are disuniting themselves. This is not only peculiar to the Muslims, as its cut across every religion and every organisation.

# Normally, man with his intellect and freedom/freewill is expected to differ in understanding, opinion and view to his fellows. Ability to differ to agree, to share differences and understand and respect our differing view is called maturity.

But religious books like the Quran
and Bible have ugly name-calling for those who don't believe in what they contain.

Followers of these religious books continue to use the foul unprintable names found in the books on their fellow humans.

Foul words like "kaffir", "unbeliever", " Mushrikeen", "swine", etc found in the Quaran and Bible and their supporting sub-scriptures are unkind words to use on a fellow human. Shows complete disrespect for the dignity of the human life.

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by AlBaqir(m): 10:07am On Dec 01, 2017
Rashduct4luv:
Bro. Lukgaf, Leave AlBa.qir alone. We know his position in antagonising Sunnah with psychology and wild psychoanalysis!

You don't need to argue with him.

# Point of correction:

1. I am not an antagonist of the Prophet's Sunnah rather I am an antagonist of the self acclaimed Ahlu Sunnah or Salafi.


2. This is a public forum. You don't need to leave Albaqir alone. This discussion is not privately between you and him, rather it is general discussion whereby people might be guided or misguided. So brace yourself up and face the reality rather than running with your tail behind your legs with excuses that "Albaqir beats you with psychology".

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Ahmadabd(m): 10:07am On Dec 01, 2017
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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by chillychill(f): 10:10am On Dec 01, 2017
Yes Av bin waiting for dis post since tipe tipe oya tell em jare
Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Lukgaf(m): 10:17am On Dec 01, 2017
AlBaqir:


# Point of correction:

1. I am not an antagonist of the Prophet's Sunnah rather I am an antagonist of the self acclaimed Ahlu Sunnah or Salafi.


2. This is a public forum. You don't need to leave Albaqir alone. This discussion is not privately between you and him, rather it is general discussion whereby people might be guided or misguided. So brace yourself up and face the reality rather than running with your tail behind your legs with excuses that "Albaqir beats you with psychology".

Albaqir, tell us your scholars (Alfa)
Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by AlBaqir(m): 10:17am On Dec 01, 2017
Ahmadabd:

so why dont you celebrate our nabiyy's birthday by
fasting as he himself used to do

# Obviously that's one way of doing it. Besides, Nabi never made it obligatory upon us to fast that day. It is he that used the fasting to thank his Lord for the day he was born.

Ahmadabd:

this is not what the hadith is saying, it says "whoever
revives a good practice of islam, that has previously
been forgotten

# I have clearly posted alongside the Hadith its web link for verification. Both the English and Arabic text is there for you to confirm. Kindly stop twisting a clear Hadith to suit your position.

# Besides, isn't your understanding laughable? For a fact, Nabi was primarily addressing his sahabah. Are you guys with " Salafi ideology " not maintaining that Sahabah uphold the Sunnah of the Prophet ni? The moment you understand that Hadith to mean what you proposed, then that argument becomes a myth for it will be put into your face that "sahabah forgotten the Sunnah of the Prophet and practice Bid'ah".

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by AlBaqir(m): 10:20am On Dec 01, 2017
Lukgaf:


Albaqir, tell us your scholars (Alfa)

Daddy mi ni.

Abeg leave silly excuses and respond to my submissions as I have done to pack of cobwebs you have opened as a thread.

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by DaBillionnaire: 10:20am On Dec 01, 2017
Rashduct4luv:
Let me share this questions copied from whatsapp.


MAOLUD PROMO WIN AWSRD!

One of our Sincere Brother wants us to repeat his Yearly Eight Millions Questions. For every correct Answer will give you ONE MILLION. The questions goes thus:

(1) Which Year did our beloved Prophet Muhammad (SAW) first Celebrate his Birthday?

(2) Which Mosque Was Used For The Celebration?

(3) Who Delivered Lecture And on what Topic?

(4) Who Designed The Cake for the celebration?

(5) Which Year and Venue did Caliph Abu Bakr Siddiq celebrate the prophet's MAULD NABIYY?

(6) How many MAWLUD NABIYY did Umar celebrate during his caliphate?

(7) Which Year and Venue did Uthman and Ali did their Mawlud Nabiyy?

(cool Where in the Holy Qur'an has ALLAH prescribed Mawlud Nabiyy?


I hope lucky winners will emerge this Year.
HURRY THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE.

However, The answers must come with Evidence in Qur'an and or Hadith Or Pious Predecessors.

Pls don't comment if you've got no evidence-based answers


Innovators will surely innovate answers to these questions.

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Nobody: 10:23am On Dec 01, 2017
Na wa o
This your own confusion is spiritually backedback ;Ded angry
Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by jamislaw(m): 10:40am On Dec 01, 2017
I will celebrate Maulid Nabiyi haters can go to hell, Happy Maulid to my fellow Muslims, am not talking about extremists oooo.


Pls extremists are you people not tired of criticizing this Maulid Nabiyi every year?

KADUNA IS BOILING FOR MAULID..

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Lukgaf(m): 10:41am On Dec 01, 2017
AlBaqir:


Daddy mi ni.

Abeg leave silly excuses and respond to my submissions as I have done to pack of cobwebs you have opened as a thread.


No wonder. Your Dad can only be your scholar if well versed about this Deen. however, I will answer all your trash if you can tell me your Scholars. so that I know where to Start from.
Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by yazach: 10:51am On Dec 01, 2017
Lukgaf:


So u are among them. but can you kindly ponder over all what I wrote rather than just criticing with flimsy excuses. Bring your evidences from Quran and Hadith with the notable scholars of Sunnah that have said the same with you.

pls let's be sincere and refrain from attitude we can not defend in Qiyama

Do you really need to respond to his gibberish?

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Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Rashduct4luv(m): 11:01am On Dec 01, 2017
AlBaqir:


# That is on those who had commercialised it. Their bad observation of Mawlud should not be used to smear those who observed it under the guidelines of the Sharia.

# For a fact, many things have been abused by the Muslims, even obligatory Salat, sawn, zakat and hajj.



# In two separate ayah, Allah puts it to the face of people like you thus:

"Do not say to those who died in the path of Allah as 'dead', rather they are ALIVE, but you do not perceive"

# And sahih Hadith says, every Fridays, records of Muslim's deeds are being presented to the Prophet. Is that a characteristic of a "dead man"?




# I have responded to all these untenable excuses above.

AlBaqir, as much as i don't want to reply you.....

I have a great dislike for lies or distortions or misinterpretation of our Books. Being Alive in the verses you quoted, how are they alive? Is it this kind of alive that we are alive

Please explain indept the verse of Al-Imran vs 144

[Muhammad (salallahu alayhi wasalam) is no more than a messenger, and indeed many messengers have passed away before him. If he dies or is killed, will you then Turn back on your heels (as disbelievers)?...

I know you hate the guys in the story below...

After leaving the house of the Prophet, Abu Bakr went to the Mosque. He heard Umar say, “The Messenger of Allah did not die.” Thereupon, he said,

“Whoever worships Muhammad (pbuh) should know that Muhammad (pbuh) died. Whoever worships Allah should know that Allah is Hayy (immortal).”

Then, he recited the following verse:

“Muhammad is no more than a Messenger: many were the Messengers that passed away before Him. If he died or was slain, will ye then turn back on your heels? If any did turn back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah; but Allah (on the other hand) will swiftly reward those who (serve him) with gratitude”

This verse had been sent down during the Battle of Uhud, when a rumor stating that Muhammad was killed became widespread. Though the Companions had read that verse, maybe, hundreds or thousands times, but they seemed to have forgotten it due to their sorrow at that time.

However, Abu Bakr who maintained his strength did not forget it; he fulfilled a great service and duty by reminding the Companions about it.

Upon the speech and reminder of Abu Bakr, the Companions came to their senses. They pulled themselves together and overcame their astonishment.

Then, Abu Bakr recited the following verse:

“(O Prophet! Truly thou wilt die (one day), and truly they (too) will die (one day).”

Abu Bakr, who did not lose his strength, fulfilled a great service for the Islamic community through his speech.

The distinguished Companions realized and accepted that the Messenger of Allah had died; Hazrat Umar gave up saying, “the Messenger of Allah did not die.” And he came to his senses....



Apparently, i would have loved if you could bring the worldwide acceptable ruling on how to perform all Mawlids/Xmas

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