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Re: Imagine A World Without Muslims! by Demmzy15(m): 7:09pm On Jan 02, 2016
Annunaki:


Sharrap Enoch and elijah flew thousands of years before that. tongue
Goat!! angry grin
Re: Imagine A World Without Muslims! by Annunaki(m): 7:24pm On Jan 02, 2016
Demmzy15:
Goat!! angry grin

Oh I forgot mohamed also supposedly flew to jerusalem on a 'donkey' the night he was caught screwing ummi tongue grin
Re: Imagine A World Without Muslims! by Demmzy15(m): 9:57pm On Jan 02, 2016
Note: Not all the points the op stated are entirely true, some might not have been invented by Muslim but Muslims contributed greatly in those fields.

Avoidhellfire:

The same way Peter denied Jesus in the bible you want to deny you don't know what i mean,here is what i mean. I mean that the op cannot prove that it was a Muslim that invented the listed items.


Wetin carry Peter come this talk now?! I don't do Takkiyah like Peter, you actually think Muslims are too dumb to invent anything! OK, let's begin.

YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Coffee


Wikipedia States
The earliest substantiated evidence of either coffee drinking or knowledge of the coffee tree is from the 15th century, in the Sufi(Muslims) monasteries of Yemen .

The knowledge about a coffee tree was postulated to have originated from Ethiopia, some claimed Yemen(a Muslim country). Again going further;

The word "coffee" entered the English language in 1582 via the Dutch koffie , borrowed from the Turkish
kahve, in turn borrowed from the Arabic qahwah ( ﻗﻬﻮﺓ ‏)‏

The word qahwah originally referred to a type of wine , whose etymology is given by Arab lexicographers as deriving from the verb qahā (ﻗﻬﺎ , "to lack hunger"wink in reference to the drink's reputation as an appetite suppressant.


Read more here:www.mrbreakfast.com/article.asp?articleid=26

YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Cameras

Ibn al-Haytham contributed greatly in optics, one of the books he wrote about optics was translated into Latin and then helped to influence the West. I quote from Wikipedia:

It was printed by Friedrich Risner in 1572, with the title Opticae thesaurus: Alhazeni Arabis libri septem, nuncprimum editi; Eiusdem liber De Crepusculis et nubium ascensionibus (English : Thesaurus of Optics: seven books of the Arab Alhazeni, first edition: concerning twilight and the advancement of clouds).

This book was read and used by the following, Roger Bacon ,Robert Grosseteste, Witelo , Giambattista della Porta ,Leonardo Da Vinci , Galileo Galilei ,Christiaan Huygens ,
René Descartes , and Johannes Kepler .


His achievements in this field cannot be compared with any, he was even nicknamed "Second Ptolemy".

YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Experimental Physics

Optics is under experimental physics, check above!

YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Chess

David Shenk stated in his book," Immortal Game": History of Chess stated: [b]"The history of chess spans over 1500 years. The earliest predecessor of the game probably originated in
India, before the 6th century AD; a minority of historians believe the game originated in China . From India, the game spread to Persia . When the Arabs(Muslims) conquered Persia, chess was taken up by the Muslim world and subsequently spread to Southern Europe........ "

The game of chess got to Christian Europe through Muslims via Spain, I hope you can be thankful for that.

YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Soap.
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Shampoo

[b][i]Various recipies for soap were written by many Muslim chemists, icluding Al-Razi. A recetly discovered manuscript dating back to the 13 century, containes the recipie to soap. The instructions are given here.
“Take some sesame oil, a sprinkle of potash, alkali and some lime, mix them all together and boil. When cooked, they are poured into moulds and left to set, leaving hard soap”.
One of the leading cosmetologists of the time, Al-Zahrawi, known to the west as Abulcassis, wrote a medical encyclopedia called Al-Tasrif. It was written in thirty volumes. Inside the 19 volume, there contains a whole chapter devoted to cosmetics. This was the first original contribution to cosmetology.
Beutification of the body with purfumes etc was there way before Zahrawi, but Zahrawi considered cosmetics to be a branch of medication apart from beutification. Zahrawi’s contribution to the subject include ; under arm deodorants, hair removing sticks. hair care and also hand lotions. For turning blond hair to black, hair dyes are mentioned. Also, the benefts of suntan lotions are mentioned, also describing their ingredients in detail. His translations into Latin of his books were used as main university textbooks in many European universities
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https://knowingthetruth./2007/12/24/muslim-inventions/

YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Perfume/spirits

Same as above!

YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Irrigation

Muslims contributed greatly here, check here www.greenville.k12.mi.us/webpages/radclifm/muslim_contributions.cfm?subpage=1784939

YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Crank-shaft, internal combustion engine, YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED valves, pistons
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Combination locks

A Muslim named Badi'al-Zaman Abū al-'Izz Ismā'īl ibn al-Razāz al-Jazarī invented the above, check his wiki page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismail_al-Jazari

YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Architectural innovation (pointed arch - European Gothic cathedrals adopted this technique as it made the building much stronger, rose windows, dome buildings, round towers, etc.)


Muslims have always had the best architectural designs, when Christian Europe was still using wooden houses Muslims used better stuffs.

YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Surgical instruments
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Anesthesia

Ahmad, Z. ( St Thomas' Hospital ) (2007), "Al-Zahrawi - The Father of Surgery", ANZ Journal of Surgery 77 (Suppl. 1) stated: Abū al-Qāsim Khalaf ibn al-‘Abbās az-Zahrāwī (936–1013), ( Arabic : ﺃﺑﻮ ﺍﻟﻘﺎﺳﻢ ﺧﻠﻒ ﺑﻦ ﺍﻟﻌﺒﺎﺱ ﺍﻟﺰﻫﺮﺍﻭﻱ ), popularly known as Al-Zahrawi (ﺍﻟﺰﻫﺮﺍﻭﻱ ), Latinised as
Abulcasis (from Arabic Abū al-Qāsim ), was an Arab
Muslim physician and surgeon who lived in Al-Andalus . He is considered the greatest medieval surgeon to have appeared from the Islamic World, and has been described as the father of surgery

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Zahrawi
This great man invited many surgical tools and the rest!

YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Windmill.

YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Treatment of Cowpox
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Fountain pen
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Numbering system
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Algebra/Trigonometry
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Modern Cryptology
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED 3 course meal (soup, meat/fish, YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED fruit/nuts)
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Crystal glasses
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Carpets
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Checks
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Gardens used for beauty and meditation instead of for herbs and kitchen.
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED University
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Optics
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Music
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Toothbrush
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Hospitals
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Bathing
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Quilting
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Mariner’s Compass
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Soft drinks
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Pendulum
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Braille
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Cosmetics
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Plastic surgery
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Calligraphy
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED Manufacturing of paper and cloth
YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED IT) .It was a Muslim who realized that light ENTERS our eyes, unlike the Greeks who thought we EMITTED rays, and so invented a camera from this discovery.

(YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED IT). It was a Muslim who first tried to FLY in 852, even though it is the Wright Brothers who have taken the credit.

(YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED IT) It was a Muslim by the name of Jabir ibn Hayyan who was known as the founder of modern Chemistry. He transformed alchemy into chemistry. He invented: distillation, purification, oxidation, evaporation, and filtration. He also discovered sulfuric and nitric acid.

(YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED IT) It is a Muslim, by the name of Al-Jazari who is known as the father of robotics.

(YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED IT ) It was a Muslim who was the architect for Henry V’s castle.

(YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED IT) It was a Muslim who invented hollow needles to suck cataracts from eyes, a technique still used today.

(YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED IT) It was a Muslim who actually discovered inoculation, not Jenner and Pasteur to treat cowpox. The West just brought it over from Turkey

(YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED IT) It was Muslims who contributed much to mathematics like Algebra and Trigonometry, which was imported over to Europe 300 years later to Fibonnaci and the rest.

(YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED IT) It was Muslims who discovered that the Earth was round 500 years before Galileo did.

(YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT IT WAS A MUSLIM THAT INVENTED IT)The list goes on………..
You can help yourself here, the list is endless https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventions_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world. It's better you don't allow hate to eat you up, Muslims impacted your life directly or indirectly. Stop this!
Re: Imagine A World Without Muslims! by perkyendy(m): 10:37pm On Jan 02, 2016
We all need each other thats just the truth Islam has been even in the time of Bible
Only God Knows how peace can reign in this world

Wait is it possible for Angels to be seen on camera?
Please I need your help on this. This Pastor Claim He saw Angels and Video Camera them... See for yourself and lets here your opinion
http://seyiadesina.com/word/angels-appears-in-church/
Re: Imagine A World Without Muslims! by Demmzy15(m): 9:54pm On Jan 03, 2016
true2god:
The topic is misleading, it should have been titled: Imagine A World Without the Arabs!

Your failure has started already, many of those great inventors weren't even Arabs. Some were berbers, Persian, Indians, blacks. So you've failed your number one assertion.

This is because islam is a religious ideology while Arab is a race. What we have are German cars (not christian cars), Japaneses cars (not shinto cars). But if saudi arabia manufacture car tomorrow they will call it 'Islamic invention' instead of saudi or Arab invention.

Very hypocritical, if a Muslim blows himself up its an Islamic invention but if he invents something it's Arab invention. Looks like you're beginning to be sick.

So associating inventions with religion (which muslims always do) is the greatest height of stupidity.


It's you that's stup'd, whatever those men accomplished was because of the religion of Islam. In fact this people were nothing before Islam but suddenly were something that impacted the world affect Islam was introduced to them, Christianity also helped in civilization and no one disputes that so why your stress?!

Benard Shaw stated in his book "What Went Wrong":

There have been many civilizations in human history, almost all of which were local, in the sense that they were defined by a region and an ethnic group. This applied to all the ancient civilizations of the Middle East—Ancient Egypt, Babylon, Persia; to the great civilizations of Asia—India, China; and to the civilizations of
Pre-Columbian America . There are two exceptions: Christianity and Islam . These are two civilizations defined by religion, in which religion is the primary defining force, not, as in India or China, a secondary aspect among others of an essentially regional and ethnically defined civilization. Here, again, another word of explanation is necessary."


Hope you can get this into your thick black skull!

And muslims seems to have inferiority complex knowing fully well that most muslim countries are backward technologically hence very poor.

These are the poorest countries in the world from the highest: Malawi, Burundi, CAR, Niger, Liberia, Madagascar, Congo Dem, Gambia, Ethiopia and Guinea.
http://www.cheatsheet.com/business/10-of-the-richest-and-poorest-countries-in-the-world.html/?a=viewall

According to this list only two predominant Muslims countries are on the list, please where did you get your above assertion?!

Over 90% of infrastructure in saudi arabia is built by the technical know-how of non-muslims. All their transsport system, telecom systems, avianics, dams, petroleum industries etc are handled and managed by the western powers.

Firstly, provide evidence for the above statistics.

Secondly, if indeed everything in Saudi is by westerners what's your problem with that?! Are the westerners doing it for free, last time I checked they were paid for it. How many things have we done all by ourselves in this country Nigeria? Is it not the west and Chinese that helps us? So why bringing up illogical and baseless facts?!

Most arabs, aside from cramming the quran, have nothing in their brain (sorry that im being truthful but harsh).

Nice one racist and who told you Arabs are mostly memorizers of the Quran?! Does it mean an Englishman automatically has crammed Harry Potter Book Deadly Hallow?!

So the only way for them to boost their ego is for them to lie to themselves (in their mosque) that they invented everything.

Muslims or Arabs, why are you mixing up things?! Many of this inventors aren't even Arabs, stop complicating things for yourself just because you want to criticise Islam.

The arabs invented nothing,

Coming from a Yeebhoe boy!!!! grin grin grin

there is no single archaelogical proove that the arabs were once a great empire. Old great empire are the Babylonians (present day iraq) the Egyptians, the Persian (Iran), the Assyrian (small part of syria), and the great roman empire.


What's this guy saying na?! When Isaac Newton invented and discovered stuffs, was he an Emperor of a great Empire? In fact Isaac Newton had to hide his beliefs because belligerent Christians like you were going to execute him for not following your beliefs. He hid from Trinitarians!

[s]The muslim-arab came, not with new knowledege or civilization, but with a new religion whose modus operandi is conquering the world with sword, subjugating cultures, and committing genocide, taking and sharing war booty, sex slave against whoever resist their invasions. And these evils are recorded in the quran and the hadith and the sunnahh of the islamic prophet.[/s]

Same old boring story!

This islamic invasion was haulted, only after the world started waking up to the ugly realities that the arabs are conquering all empires using islam as a motivating factor hence was beaten back from europe and india.


Lol, actually justifying bloody Christians right?! Many were happy because Muslims came to liberate them from the bloody shackles of Christianity, from Jews to fellow Christians. It's not possible for Muslims to conquer the world because Allaah said it's not possible, if indeed he will everyone would be Muslim. Get that into your head!

Muslims\arabs should stop fooling themselves, they are the most backward and least developed people on earth.

Lmao!!! And Christians still flock in into their countries?! Christians even still use some of the inventions they came about?! You must be kidding!

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Re: Imagine A World Without Muslims! by plappville(f): 10:24pm On Jan 03, 2016
efilefun:
May Allah SWT guide us aright and continue to guard us.

I can see how Allah is guiding Iran and Saudi from tiring apart now.. tongue
Re: Imagine A World Without Muslims! by APCsupporter: 10:58pm On Jan 03, 2016
kyru:
A WORLD WITHOUT CHRISTIANS

oh what will we do without pastor Chidioke who made the church of Breast and Honey Harvest Church International.
this pastor tells women to come to his church without bras and their husbands so he could suck out the spirit of rejection from her breast so she can be delivered of the spirit of rejection.

http://africanspotlight.com/2015/10/30/nigerian-pastor-in-kenya-sucks-womens-breasts-in-church-audio/

grin wink

We have seen thousands of videos of pastors caught sleeping or bathing married women. Christianity is as fake as the annual prophesy they make
Re: Imagine A World Without Muslims! by Bigsteve121(m): 2:35pm On Nov 21, 2016
AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED TO ME I DONT CARE ABOUT RELIGION BUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT JESUS CHRIST HAS RISEN AND WILL COME AGAIN WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. WHEN JESUS SAYS YES NOBODY CAN SAY NO WHY YOU ASK BECAUSE JESUS CHRIST IS LORD THATS WHY wink wink
Re: Imagine A World Without Muslims! by ifenes(m): 3:22pm On Nov 21, 2016
Then you can say imagine Nigeria without the guys blowing up the oil pipelines. I'm sure they ain't Muslims.

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Re: Imagine A World Without Muslims! by plappville(f): 9:59am On Nov 23, 2016
ifenes:
Then you can say imagine Nigeria without the guys blowing up the oil pipelines. I'm sure they ain't Muslims.

I can understand thier acts is bad. But you know last night i saw a documentary on Excravos or Escravos. The people there are living in poverty. The foreign companies are not helping matters. They build a hospital the building is almost dilapidated, no nurse no doctor the project was abandoned. They keep exploiting oil why the villagers are suffering. Cant you see this could provoke anger? I think it should also go like this. "Imagine Nigeria without corrupt leaders".
Re: Imagine A World Without Muslims! by Nobody: 10:50am On Nov 23, 2016
Islamists must always look for a way to twist history. Anytime I'm free, I will make sure I expose your lying assez

Coffee tree - how can islam "invent " a food that grows naturally? So Nigerians invented cocoa? If that's the case, nigerians invented palm wine too abi?... mo.rons


[s]
So because Ibn al-Haytham contributed greatly in optics means he invented camera and experimental physics[/s]? ... The last book of the bible was compiled 300 years before mohammed was born and the bible contains a lot of references to optics and light. Greeks and romans were able to use optics as a science in travels and astrology long before islam was invented


Chess started in India why do U have to tie it to islam? Because some sailors brought guns to the Americas does it mean they invented the guns?

Soap was written about thousands of years before islam was "fabricated". Even the Bible wrote about soap called hyssop. Romans and greeks as well as ancient civilisations were already using different soap and cosmetic types. Even Egyptians used so many preservation methods on dead bodies to prevent decay for centuries. Is it cosmetics for living people they will not have invented? Romans used cosmetics and invented them. Even Africans have been using various forms of body and looks enhancements

[s]Muslims have always had the best architectural designs, when Christian[/s] History shows the greek and egyptian structures came before islams. Islam started 500 years after Jesus when the roman amphitheatres and greek medivial marvels have been in existence. This is a boldfaced lie from the pit of hell. Even the mosques design using a hollow sphere was copied from.the church in Turkey that turks converted to mosque?

[s]If a Muslim physician is considered the greatest medieval surgeon to have appeared from the Islamic World[/s].... does that mean he invented anything?... is there any procedure pioneered by him which was never done before?
Re: Imagine A World Without Muslims! by plappville(f): 1:45pm On Nov 23, 2016
Axon:
Islamists must always look for a way to twist history. Anytime I'm free, I will make sure I expose your lying assez

Coffee tree - how can islam "invent " a food that grows naturally? So Nigerians invented cocoa? If that's the case, nigerians invented palm wine too abi?... mo.rons


[s]
So because Ibn al-Haytham contributed greatly in optics means he invented camera and experimental physics[/s]? ... The last book of the bible was compiled 300 years before mohammed was born and the bible contains a lot of references to optics and light. Greeks and romans were able to use optics as a science in travels and astrology long before islam was invented


Chess started in India why do U have to tie it to islam? Because some sailors brought guns to the Americas does it mean they invented the guns?

Soap was written about thousands of years before islam was "fabricated". Even the Bible wrote about soap called hyssop. Romans and greeks as well as ancient civilisations were already using different soap and cosmetic types. Even Egyptians used so many preservation methods on dead bodies to prevent decay for centuries. Is it cosmetics for living people they will not have invented? Romans used cosmetics and invented them. Even Africans have been using various forms of body and looks enhancements

[s]Muslims have always had the best architectural designs, when Christian[/s] History shows the greek and egyptian structures came before islams. Islam started 500 years after Jesus when the roman amphitheatres and greek medivial marvels have been in existence. This is a boldfaced lie from the pit of hell. Even the mosques design using a hollow sphere was copied from.the church in Turkey that turks converted to mosque?

[s]If a Muslim physician is considered the greatest medieval surgeon to have appeared from the Islamic World[/s].... does that mean he invented anything?... is there any procedure pioneered by him which was never done before?

Watch this video from an Arabian man:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZZMXV_PRXk
Re: Imagine A World Without Muslims! by alex1486: 3:57pm On May 24, 2018
there are some muslim dominated countries in africa and condition there is not so good http://www.youthfeed.org/world/poorest-countries-in-the-world/
Re: Imagine A World Without Muslims! by Demmzy15(m): 6:08pm On May 24, 2018
alex1486:
there are some muslim dominated countries in africa and condition there is not so good http://www.youthfeed.org/world/poorest-countries-in-the-world/
Christian dominated nations are also worse, do you agree?

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