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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by poseidon12: 5:35pm On Jan 13, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:

Dasuki has already been charged to court. He is in detention for a different case. He wants to run abroad in the name of bail. The FG however is dishing the meal bit by bit.

Perhaps, you are not aware that Sambo released statement on this issue and NEVER in the statement refuted the $2.2 billion sum.

Again, save your epistle for the judge.

Which different case is he in detention for? How long are they supposed to hold him for before they can charge him to court for that different case? They need to stop violating the fundamental human rights of Nigerians.

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by peterjero(m): 5:37pm On Jan 13, 2016
tomakint:

Point of correction my brother, they have been returning Abacha's loot since the time of Abdulsalam......trust me that era with Gowon's era were the most wasteful in the history of this Country.
It pains me to know that Nigerians didn't realise the wasteful regime of abdusalami.

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by TonyeBarcanista(m): 5:37pm On Jan 13, 2016
Mrjo:
[b][/b][color=#006600][/color]. Ask urself, those people named did govt. gave them any fund, if no,what's ur arguement, or has it become a crime for people to recieve money the work they did?
Which work? Are you aware of any contract?
Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by Ecoterrorism(f): 5:38pm On Jan 13, 2016
EbukaFran:



U are just wasting ur time with that snailspeed or whatever

I can bet a fortune what part of nigeria he is from

Only IPOB youths will support criminality without any shame

The IPOB youth even said you can use security votes to buy soap lolzzzzzz

IPOB youths will not kill us with laff
I'm laughing at your lecturer because you don't know what security entails. You can use security vote to buy soap if you want to use it to empower youth in order not to venture into some vices which will in the long run cause a break down of law and order.


Security is about prevention and execution.

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by ayosogunro1: 5:39pm On Jan 13, 2016
I have come to understand how easy it is for Nigerians to confuse issues and propagandize when they claim to know more than those who are involved directly in national issues. In fact those who accuse the government of media trials are the very ones carrying out media exoneration and acquittal of the accused without the benefit of evidence beyond mere speculations. It smacks of insult to the intelligence and intellectual capacity of the former National Security Adviser for anyone to suggest that the controversial $2.1 billion was Security Vote and not an extra budgetary allocation for Arms Purchase. Is the analyst suggesting that the former NSA Sambo Dasuki is so daft that he could not differentiate between Security Votes (which clearly is beyond investigation) and Arms fund which is clearly accountable? Unfortunately, those who should critically study and analyse write ups just join the bandwagon of endorsement without critical thinking. While every one is entitled to his opinion, such entitlement should be to the furtherance of truth and public morality. This article is a failed attempt to whitewash the criminal expenditure in question and blackmail the government of PMB as diversionary, vindictive, clueless and incompetent. But we the masses know better. No amount of hate write ups and campaign of calumny will discredit this administration in its onerous war against corruption. Any attack against this war against corruption is evidently Corruption fighting back. Those who benefitted from the ravenous and rapacious squandering of our riches owe their benefactors moral burden of defence. In the same vein the patriotic masses who suffered abysmally and indescribably from the bazaar have a duty to support the exposure and trial of those who betrayed the trust reposed in them through unconscionable wastage and national profligacy. No rationalization of corruption is acceptable.

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by porka: 5:41pm On Jan 13, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:

Thank you!

The $2.2 billion is the subtotal amount for extra-budgeted money for arms deal. So far, neither Dasuki nor the DFA ONSA has refuted the $2.2billion. They are the major players. Remember that the money didn't come in a whole block.

Secondly, you can't charge Dasuki for "stealing" or diverting $2.2billion when you are yet to establish that he diverted/stole all the monies on his own. He will be only charged for whatever is connected to him and he's being charged in batches. Also remember that there are other players that will share in the prosecution. The bafarawas, Dokpesis, Haliru etc.

Dasuki and the DFA have pleaded NOT GUILTY in an open court.

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by udemzyudex(m): 5:41pm On Jan 13, 2016
snailspeed:


There is no such money for arms deal. It isnt whether the money belongs to government or not. What they did was to calculate all the money that passed through the NSA's office for his tenure and come out to say it is money for arms. It was a well crafted lie (though not so well crafted for those who ask simple questions). The only money that was recommended for arms was the $300 million returned Abacha loot which NOI clearly explained. The rest are just lies and propaganda



I'm already downloading your writeup to my brain and it's at 90%...


I want to ask one question before it get to 100%.
What about those who have been saying how much they collected?

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by maestroferddi: 5:41pm On Jan 13, 2016
OrlandoOwoh:

Because he chose not to defend the OP, he is now in PDP? Na wa o.
Nobody needs a character that is as unstable as quicksilver.

The man's disposition tends to give more ammunition to those who believe that his engagement in political discussions is hinged on pecuniary considerations...

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by Ibman: 5:41pm On Jan 13, 2016
OK! I now understand.... The office of the NSA is jst to receive monies from govt and be sharing to PDP members in millions.... Its only fulls especially the guilable ones i see here that can believe this political lies. it was Dasuki that insisted the election be shifted to finalize the looting proper and complete the sharing proper. No way, Baba fight this thieves to d end.

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by Ecoterrorism(f): 5:42pm On Jan 13, 2016
1stolax:

Rubbish
what ignorance can cause. You couldn't even counter anything he said

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by emmykk(m): 5:43pm On Jan 13, 2016
maverickboy:




well analysed writeup there! but this raises one or two questions and those are:

Where does the money that was distributed to those people that have been mentioned so far comes from?

Or no money was ever distributed to anybody and the names being mentioned is part of the propaganda?

But mind you, not one of those people, despite realising the implications of the scandal on their political career denied to have collected money from the last administration.


1.since you have agreed that the $2B dollar is not arm deal God bless you.

2.The money disburse by dasuki could be party money.Because dokpesi was paid for advert he made to PDP and not that the money was given to him free,likewise olu falea...if ibori can give yarudua politicalmechinery N12B let alone a presidency that has lasted for 6yrs then.

3.APC also source for their money too from the likes of tinubu and ameachi who know how much that amount to?

4.we are not hearing dasuki version from the how incident,dasuki may have be the guy in charge of PDP purse and apc is using his normal party distrubing figures against him as arm money

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by mikeywise(m): 5:44pm On Jan 13, 2016
jaybee3:
https://www.thecable.ng/exclusive-dasuki-got-jonathans-approvals-collect-2-1bn-nnpc-9-months

"Sambo Dasuki, former national security adviser, received an extra-budgetary allocation of $2.1 billion from the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) within nine months after approvals by former President Goodluck Jonathan, TheCable can report. Dasuki is currently being investigated by the federal government over the billions of dollars released for the procurement of arms for counter-terrorism operations under Jonathan.
Documents seen by TheCable showed the breakdown of NNPC’s disbursements to the office of the NSA as follows:

$1 billion on March 27, 2014;

$200 million on April 9, 2014;

$600 million on May 5, 2014;

and, same day, $200 million following a request for $250 million.

The documents also showed that on January 12, 2015, he got $100 million, bringing the total amount his office received from the NNPC to $2.1 billion within the nine months. "

"TheCable can report, however, that Jonathan approved all the disbursements by NNPC, with his senior special assistant on administrative matters, Matt Aikhionbere, writing the covering letters conveying presidential consent to the corporation after the president had minuted on Dasuki’s requests.

"

One of the reason why the NNPC audit report was suppressed and subsequently embargoed



if after reading this, you still think this is propaganda, then all I have to say is SORRY.

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by Abugab(m): 5:47pm On Jan 13, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:

No Sir! The $2.2 billion wasn't for "security vote" as you claim. It was an extra-budgetary amount that the FG set aside for arms purchase. It is different from the $1billion that the FG borrowed in 2014 for same purpose and other budgeted expenses.


The so-called $300million returned Abacha loot forms part of the $2.2 billion extra budgeted for arms purchase. They aren't for "Security vote". Even the authorisation by Jonathan said arms purchase. Sambo Dasuki didn't deny that. In fact, he said that Jonathan approved the $2.2billion for the purpose.


N/B: The arms purchase $2.2billion is different from the appropriated monies by the NASS. Allow the people invoved to defend themselves.


It isn't propaganda Sir!

You have given my response and no more to add.
This post by Snailspeed actually represent the name as the memory/brain function is at snailspeed.

People just speculate and feel they know it all. Well, I understand most are neophytes but must open up to learn. Hundreds of thousands of high ranking public and private sectors professionals read and make comments on NL but these kids makes everything serious looks like comedy.

Thumbs up for lecturing the Op

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by akinsbaba2015: 5:50pm On Jan 13, 2016
ayosogunro1:
I have come to understand how easy it is for Nigerians to confuse issues and propagandize when they claim to know more than those who are involved directly in national issues. In fact those who accuse the government of media trials are the very ones carrying out media exoneration and acquittal of the accused without the benefit of evidence beyond mere speculations. It smacks of insult to the intelligence and intellectual capacity of the former National Security Adviser for anyone to suggest that the controversial $2.1 billion was Security Vote and not an extra budgetary allocation for Arms Purchase. Is the analyst suggesting that the former NSA Sambo Dasuki is so daft that he could not differentiate between Security Votes (which clearly is beyond investigation) and Arms fund which is clearly accountable? Unfortunately, those who should critically study and analyse write ups just join the bandwagon of endorsement without critical thinking. While every one is entitled to his opinion, such entitlement should be to the furtherance of truth and public morality. This article is a failed attempt to whitewash the criminal expenditure in question and blackmail the government of PMB as diversionary, vindictive, clueless and incompetent. But we the masses know better. No amount of hate write ups and campaign of calumny will discredit this administration in its onerous war against corruption. Any attack against this war against corruption is evidently Corruption fighting back. Those who benefitted from the ravenous and rapacious squandering of our riches owe their benefactors moral burden of defence. In the same vein the patriotic masses who suffered abysmally and indescribably from the bazaar have a duty to support the exposure and trial of those who betrayed the trust reposed in them through unconscionable wastage and national profligacy. No rationalization of corruption is acceptable.
. My brother God bless you. In the bid to defend their principals online(not in court where case are argued with facts and evidences) they will sink to abysmal depths. Just watch them as they fool around the different news sites with their concocted fables. They are at Punch website as we speak posting under the name "Ogbuefiakajiaku"

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by porka: 5:50pm On Jan 13, 2016
ayosogunro1:
I have come to understand how easy it is for Nigerians to confuse issues and propagandize when they claim to know more than those who are involved directly in national issues. In fact those who accuse the government of media trials are the very ones carrying out media exoneration and acquittal of the accused without the benefit of evidence beyond mere speculations. It smacks of insult to the intelligence and intellectual capacity of the former National Security Adviser for anyone to suggest that the controversial $2.1 billion was Security Vote and not an extra budgetary allocation for Arms Purchase. Is the analyst suggesting that the former NSA Sambo Dasuki is so daft that he could not differentiate between Security Votes (which clearly is beyond investigation) and Arms fund which is clearly accountable? Unfortunately, those who should critically study and analyse write ups just join the bandwagon of endorsement without critical thinking. While every one is entitled to his opinion, such entitlement should be to the furtherance of truth and public morality. This article is a failed attempt to whitewash the criminal expenditure in question and blackmail the government of PMB as diversionary, vindictive, clueless and incompetent. But we the masses know better. No amount of hate write ups and campaign of calumny will discredit this administration in its onerous war against corruption. Any attack against this war against corruption is evidently Corruption fighting back. Those who benefitted from the ravenous and rapacious squandering of our riches owe their benefactors moral burden of defence. In the same vein the patriotic masses who suffered abysmally and indescribably from the bazaar have a duty to support the exposure and trial of those who betrayed the trust reposed in them through unconscionable wastage and national profligacy. No rationalization of corruption is acceptable.

All this long grammar would not have been necessary if Dasuki and others are properly charged in an open court.

From what we know, no mention of ARMS "EXTRA-BUDGETARY" sentence in any of the charges preferred against Dasuki at this moment.

Dasuki has pleaded NOT GUILTY to the charges preferred against him.

What is right is for the government to bring all these "documents" to the OPEN court and allow Dasuki to defend himself.

What is wrong is PUSHING "documents" into the media for Dasuki to be tried EXTRA-JUDICIALLY.

NOTE:

He was once arrested for having CHACHE OF ARMS in his houses only to be charged for possession of AN UNLICENSED PISTOL in the court.

And they attempted to cover up with a SECRET TRIAL at the time.

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by Ecoterrorism(f): 5:53pm On Jan 13, 2016
snailspeed:
I have been following the so called Dasukigate and I am amazed how easy it is for a government to use the media to deceive and distract the ignorant masses. History has shown that propaganda remains the biggest tool of any government that intends to enslave a people. Unfortnately, even the current opposition has been quite incompetent in putting the records straight

For the records, there is nothing like a $2.1B arms money. It was a propaganda masterstroke well concotted by the DSS and EFCC to distract everyone from the incompetence of the Buhari administration. That is why former president Goodluck Jonathan has come out twice now to put the records staright that he never approved any $2.1B arms money. But it seems the ignorant masses still dont get it. So where did the "$2.1B arms money" headline originate from?

$2.1B was the monies that was allocated to the office of the NSA throughout Dasuki's tenure as NSA. These monies come under SECURITY VOTE. It was not money allocated to the purchase of weapons as the DSS and the EFCC have claimed. That is why they cant take Dasuki to court. They will lose woefully. Security vote is not money allocated for arms purchase. Of the whole monies that make up the $2.1B, only the $300 million from the returned Abacha loot was actually recommended for the purchase of arms. That is why in court, the charges brought against Dasuki was in that range. But they are likely going to lose in court for that because weapons were actually purchased. Whether they are worth $300 million is what the EFCC will have to prove in court. But from the way they have been refusing to follow the court process, one is safe to assume that they dont trust their own case against Dasuki.

But why did they go with the headlines of "$2.1 Billion arms purchase money" when they knew it was not the case? Because the whole anti coruption fight was only a propaganda stunt from the beginning. It was a well crafted stunt to distract the masses and persecute any dissenting voice so Buhari can fully consolidate power. Does that mean I think many of the politicians mentioned in the scandal are clean? By no means! Nigerian politicians are corrupt without a doubt including the presidency and everyone in the rulling APC party. The president's campaign itself was sponsored from corruption. The Amaechi corruption scandals are well documented with very strong evidence.

If Dasuki has stolen any funds, he should be prosecuted accordingly, but the media propaganda and charade has got to stop. Media trial is injustice in itself. I find it really deceitful when I see lines like "what will you tell the Nigerian soldiers that didnt have weapons to fight and were killed because Dasuki shared the arms money". That is nothing but propaganda and trying to appeal to sentiments to push a narrative. If that were the case, what has the same military been using to fight BH in the last 8 months since Buhari has not bought any new weapons? What weapons did the army use to push back BH prior to the 2015 elections? Did they push BH back with their bare hands too? Even Lie Mohammed claims BH has been defeated. With which weapons did the army defeat BH? With their bare hands?

It is important we put all these straight so we dont fall for cheap propoaganda by a government that has completely lost its way. The same government that claims they are fighting corruption came out with a terrible corruption laden budget where they intended to connect cables from the President's residence to the drivers residence with N300 million. In fact, the budget of yams was so laden with coruption that they had to shamelessly withdraw it.

The world has changed. If the current government thinks they will continue to rule with propaganda, they should think again because they will be exposed again and again. Thank God for social media and the Internet!
cc biafraqueen Gaborone

This is another side of dasukigate. I will always stand for due process

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by porka: 5:54pm On Jan 13, 2016
mikeywise:


if after reading this, you still think this is propaganda, then all I have to say is SORRY.

Are they court documents?

They are still MEDIA documents.

Why not bring the documents to the court?

Everyone saw Buhari laid "documents" on the table of the National Assembly last year.

Only for the "documents" to be "stolen" in the new year.

Is it too hard for Buhari and his government to be TRANSPARENT?

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by akinsbaba2015: 5:55pm On Jan 13, 2016
porka:


All this long grammar would not have been necessary is Dasuki and others are properly charged in an open court.

From what we know, no mention of ARMS "EXTRA-BUDGETARY" sentence in any of the charges preferred against Dasuki at this moment.

Dasuki has pleaded NOT GUILTY to the charges preferred against him.

What is right is for the government to bring all these "documents" to the OPEN court and allow Dasuki to defend himself.

What is wrong is PUSHING "documents" into the media for Dasuki to be tried EXTRA-JUDICIALLY.

NOTE:

He was once arrested for having CHACHE OF ARMS in his houses only to be charged for possession of AN UNLICENSED PISTOL in the court.

And they attempted to cover up with a SECRET TRIAL at the time.
Define an open court for us. Your illiteracy is beyond measure. Have you seen any alleged criminal who pleaded guilty in court. They always plead innocent. If that's your excuse then please go back to school.
Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by Ahmeduana(m): 5:56pm On Jan 13, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:

I believe you followed the whole argument. I said and the link confirms that Dasuki has never refuted the said amount. Let him refute it first and we shall ask EFCc to produce their document. If the two players didn't refute it, on what authority are you refuting? Are you the accountant? Did you partake?



You have no argument oga
AM REALLY DISAPPOINTED IN YOU, I THOUGHT YOU ARE A REBEL FIGHTING A COURSE, I NEVER KNEW THAT YOU ARE JUST A PEN FOR HIRE, PROBABLY YOU ARE PLAYING THE DEVIL ADVOCATE JUST TO KEEP THE DISCUSSION GOING.

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by maestroferddi: 5:56pm On Jan 13, 2016
ayosogunro1:
I have come to understand how easy it is for Nigerians to confuse issues and propagandize when they claim to know more than those who are involved directly in national issues. In fact those who accuse the government of media trials are the very ones carrying out media exoneration and acquittal of the accused without the benefit of evidence beyond mere speculations. It smacks of insult to the intelligence and intellectual capacity of the former National Security Adviser for anyone to suggest that the controversial $2.1 billion was Security Vote and not an extra budgetary allocation for Arms Purchase. Is the analyst suggesting that the former NSA Sambo Dasuki is so daft that he could not differentiate between Security Votes (which clearly is beyond investigation) and Arms fund which is clearly accountable? Unfortunately, those who should critically study and analyse write ups just join the bandwagon of endorsement without critical thinking. While every one is entitled to his opinion, such entitlement should be to the furtherance of truth and public morality. This article is a failed attempt to whitewash the criminal expenditure in question and blackmail the government of PMB as diversionary, vindictive, clueless and incompetent. But we the masses know better. No amount of hate write ups and campaign of calumny will discredit this administration in its onerous war against corruption. Any attack against this war against corruption is evidently Corruption fighting back. Those who benefitted from the ravenous and rapacious squandering of our riches owe their benefactors moral burden of defence. In the same vein the patriotic masses who suffered abysmally and indescribably from the bazaar have a duty to support the exposure and trial of those who betrayed the trust reposed in them through unconscionable wastage and national profligacy. No rationalization of corruption is acceptable.
I am afraid you are trying to waste our time.

Instead of launching out in a long-winded attempt to proffer banalities as explanation, you should have done the needful.

May I state for the umpteenth time that sane societies are governed by rules of engagement.

The crux of the matter confronting us here is Buhari's refusal to obey the most basic of the putative rule.

Buhari swore to an oath to defend and uphold the constitution of the land. May I remind you that the rule of law and separation of powers form the grundnums/building blocks of constitutional democracy. Was Buhari elected to office to suspend the constitution and subjugate/usurp the judiciary?

What are you talking about? Should our national institutions revolve around Buhari or should we sustain strong institutions that would outlast subjective considerations?

Why would you desire that Nigerians should promote cult personalities and messianic complexes giving our chequered history?

I am upset...

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by Nobody: 5:58pm On Jan 13, 2016
snailspeed:


Nobody has been caught red handed and nobody has been mentoning any yam eaters. Dasuki has said clearly he has not mentioned anybody. Your post is a good example of the propaganda war and media trial going on

where do you live? on planet Mars or Jupiter?

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by akinsbaba2015: 5:59pm On Jan 13, 2016
Which strong institutions did your weakling of a leader build in his 5years as President. The institution of free for all looting of public funds. The strong institution of a ferocious army of TANOIDS and wailing wailers.

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by Ahmeduana(m): 5:59pm On Jan 13, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:
no need to preach bro. Let them continue, they will have patriots here to put them where they belong
FOR YOUR MOUTH!

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by jaybee3(m): 6:02pm On Jan 13, 2016
The ignorant OP doesn't even know how they come up with security vote budget item.

It's usually around 10% of a department/state or federal government's budget.

It's almost impossible for the looted $2.1B to be from the security vote

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by Walelavender(m): 6:03pm On Jan 13, 2016
Op, you are trying to be an unbiased writer but it's obviously unfortunate that you ain't. You call it the 'biggest propaganda ' I call it the biggest scam. We've never had it exposed like this. See, posterity will judge all Yam eaters and their supporters. This is the year of judgment. Nemesis is catching up! Pls don't stand in the way else.....

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by akinsbaba2015: 6:05pm On Jan 13, 2016
A bit of digression, I just noticed it's been a long while we heard from brother Femi Fani-Kayode. Is he working on another open letter to the President? Why keep such a low profile now that the heat is been turned on his party members? ANY ANSWERS

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by snailspeed: 6:08pm On Jan 13, 2016
udemzyudex:




I'm already downloading your writeup to my brain and it's at 90%...


I want to ask one question before it get to 100%.
What about those who have been saying how much they collected?

Please do get my message right. My position is not about defending or exonerating Dasuki. It is about

1. Everyone, in the eyes of the law, is innocent until proven guilty. That is a fundamental tenet of democracy and justice. I cannot stand here in good conscience and tell you Dasuki is not corrupt but if he is, it is for the court to prove that, not EFCC, DSS or Buhari.

2. I have not said anywhere in my write up or any of my follow up posts that he didnt give anyone money.

My point is simple. They have come out to tell us Dasuki collected $2.2B meant for procurement of arms and misappropriated it and shared it to his cronies. First, there isnt such a $2.2B money approved for arms purchase. It is false. So the whole issue is on a false foundation from the start. He did receive monies for his office as NSA. Whether he disbursed such allocations to his office rightly or wrongly is a different discussion altogether and is a far cry from the Dasuki gate scandal that has gone on for months.

And in the end, the courts should be allowed to do their job and give a verdict. The monies from the ONSA were definitely disbursed for various projects and assignments so people surely collected money from that office. But that does not suggest in any way that they committed crimes. In fact, we now have a blanket assumption that any money that was disbursed from that office was a fraud. This is so wrong and this kind of narrative is cheap propaganda.

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by udemzyudex(m): 6:09pm On Jan 13, 2016
snailspeed:


Please do get my message right. My position is not about defending or exonerating Dasuki. It is about

1. Everyone, in the eyes of the law, is innocent until proven guilty. That is a fundamental tenet of democracy and justice. I cannot stand here in good conscience and tell you Dasuki is not corrupt but if he is, it is for the court to prove that, not EFCC, DSS or Buhari.

2. I have not said anywhere in my write up or any of my follow up posts that he didnt give anyone money.

My point is simple. They have come out to tell us Dasuki collected $2.2B meant for procurement of arms and misappropriated it and shared it to his cronies. First, there isnt such a $2.2B money approved for arms purchase. It is false. So the whole issue is on a false foundation from the start. He did receive monies for his office as NSA. Whether he disbursed such allocations to his office rightly or wrongly is a different discussion altogether and is a far cry from the Dasuki gate scandal that has gone on for months.

And in the end, the courts should be allowed to do their job and give a verdict. The monies from the ONSA were definitely disbursed for various projects and assignments so people surely collected money from that office. But that does not suggest in any way that they committed crimes. In fact, we now have a blanket assumption that any money that was disbursed from that office was a fraud. This is so wrong and this kind of narrative is cheap propaganda.


OK... Thanks for taking ur time to explain things well.
Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by porka: 6:12pm On Jan 13, 2016
akinsbaba2015:
Define an open court for us. Your illiteracy is beyond measure. Have you seen any alleged criminal who pleaded guilty in court. They always plead innocent. If that's your excuse then please go back to school.

A) open court Law
n.
A court in session, especially a court in public session in a courtroom, rather than being engaged in proceedings closed to the public, as in a judge's chambers.

open court
n
1. (Law) a court or trial to which members of the public are freely admitted

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/open+court

B) Suspect in Abuja bombing pleads guilty

http://thenationonlineng.net/suspect-in-abuja-bombing-pleads-guilty/


There you have them, kid.

Some things are beyond your capacity.

When you come to a public forum, you stay quiet and learn.

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by akinsbaba2015: 6:13pm On Jan 13, 2016
snailspeed:


Please do get my message right. My position is not about defending or exonerating Dasuki. It is about

1. Everyone, in the eyes of the law, is innocent until proven guilty. That is a fundamental tenet of democracy and justice. I cannot stand here in good conscience and tell you Dasuki is not corrupt but if he is, it is for the court to prove that, not EFCC, DSS or Buhari.

2. I have not said anywhere in my write up or any of my follow up posts that he didnt give anyone money.

My point is simple. They have come out to tell us Dasuki collected $2.2B meant for procurement of arms and misappropriated it and shared it to his cronies. First, there isnt such a $2.2B money approved for arms purchase. It is false. So the whole issue is on a false foundation from the start. He did receive monies for his office as NSA. Whether he disbursed such allocations to his office rightly or wrongly is a different discussion altogether and is a far cry from the Dasuki gate scandal that has gone on for months.

And in the end, the courts should be allowed to do their job and give a verdict. The monies from the ONSA were definitely disbursed for various projects and assignments so people surely collected money from that office. But that does not suggest in any way that they committed crimes. In fact, we now have a blanket assumption that any money that was disbursed from that office was a fraud. This is so wrong and this kind of narrative is cheap propaganda.
. So for your mind now, you are speaking authoritatively as the spokesman for the ONSA. Dude get a life. You guys are plainly ridiculous.

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Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by ASL33: 6:14pm On Jan 13, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:

I don't get your point. You can't charge Dasuki for looting the whole $2.2billion except you can establish that he on his own diverted the entire money. However, there are people involved that will share part in the prosecution. Also be aware that the FG is charging Sambo in bits.
If the fund is under the control of DASUKI and it got misused then Dasuki should be charged for the misuse.
Re: $2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by tomakint: 6:14pm On Jan 13, 2016
peterjero:

It pains me to know that Nigerians didn't realise the wasteful regime of abdusalami.
It is called, collective amnesia and unfortunately the youths are mostly affected.

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