darkenedrebel:
Before you crucify, some 13/14/15 year old girls really do like 21/22 year old ladies - prolly because of the heavy make-up & whatnot.
Some also lie about their age when approached by toasters

To be diplomatic, 10% of the blame goes to the girls who aren't patient enough to grow, and who dress too inappropriate, while 90% belongs to the sick paedos.

Rukkydelta:

So a 4 years old child should be blame for rape ?

Most rapist are not toasters, some may be relations or individuals the victims has respect for.

daretodiffer:
I am going to completely rational. I am agaisnt rape and abuse of every kind however that doesn't mean that we shouldn't not apply reasons where it is due.

Who is a paedophile? A paedophile is an adult is attached to pre-pubscents. A pre-pubsecent means someone who has not begun puberty. The name for people who are attracted to teens who are still developing sexually (Hebephilia, 11-14) while Ephebephila is sexual attraction to adolescence (15-19).

Whoever came up with these terms did not consider the fact that a woman is a woman regardless of age. Sexual/Physical development might not be as noticeable in the societybwhere these terms are coined but they are in Africa. in Sexual development also varies from one female to another female. You cannot blame a man who getting attracted to a woman with a well-developed rear just because she is 11. Whether you like it or not, she is a woman. If she had applied a lil make-up or dressed more elegantly, none of you would register her age before you call her ‘sexy'.

However there are two arguments against encouraging men. One, there are a couple of lil girls (age 3-....) who already have a prominent ass. Yes, it is shocking but it is true. Making excuses for men to be attracted to 11 years old means we will wake up one day to men who would also justify their attraction to girls.
Secondly, the society has deviated from its natural course. Our established life goals ensure that we have to protect our little ones to a certain age where we could trust them to take on responsibilities and face the full consequences of their actions. Therefore encouraging such feelings would leave our little ones at the mercy of relationships which are highly likely going to be manipulative and exploitive.


So can we please let that man be




I think it would be better if the OP focused on Nairaland 's response to rape and adultery.

darkenedrebel:


I didn't mention a 4 year old child in my analysis.
I was talking about 15/16 year old teenagers who look older than their age.

darkenedrebel:


I didn't mention a 4 year old child in my analysis.
I was talking about 15/16 year old teenagers who look older than their age.

misspicy:

and its their fault for looking older than their age
if anybody should be blamed its does Randy men,who allow their joystick reason for them.

misspicy:

I Blame them because they entice this girls just to get under them,they don't necessarily rape,but cajoling a teenager just to get under her skirt when y'all know they have immatures minds that lack discretion because they don't have prior experience to use as an example on giving consent on things like that ,yet y'all turn round and blame this kids? did they create themselves?

misspicy:

aan for those blaming parents,how many of y'all received sex education from parent at teenage age? I didn't ,and I didn't become a LovePeddler because men of then were not subjects to their fleshy desires unlike the men roaming around this days

its obvious its the men that lust after teenagers that Are to be blamed

Rukkydelta:

Whatever, you seems to be justifying rape.

darkenedrebel:


I am not. Stop twisting my words woman!

darkenedrebel:


In most cases, yes. They wear heavy make-ups, dress too seductively & lie about their age sometimes.
It's almost like they aren't patient enough to grow up. You act like you don't some of these 16 year olds girls actually crave for sex. Girls as little as 13/14 already have boyfriends whom they regularly have sex with. What's stopping them from spreading their legs willingly when approached by a much more older & experienced man? I think the societal orientation & media is the major factor.
Like I said, 90% of the blame belongs to the paedos, the remaining percentage belong to the teenage girls & their parents.



Note: I'm talking about 15/16/17 year olds, not kids.
So @ 16, a girl doesn't know what she wants?



Who are the men of then? When were you born?
.

Parents don't necessarily have to render sex education. I woulda felt uncomfortable discussing such with my parents @ 15 or 16.
That's why it's been taught in school - Integrated science.

misspicy:


[b]even you agree with me that this adolescents0 and young adults are been influenced by external forces7 @ bolded,so how is that a fault of theirs0 that they are cajoled,manipulated and used by the same adults putting out this external forces?3

yes teenagers0 does not know what they really want,in advanced countries, they are called2 MINORS

They think and reason according2 to their environment and upbringing,so my dear0 is that enough reason for a matured man (an adult o) to manipulate them because they grew fast for their age?


the way the society reason ten years ago is very different from7 the way they do,my age is not a determinate factor for this debate,but I was not cajoled or manipulate by an adult as at when I was a teen,same with girls I grew up around... but my teenage sister gives me complains about adult men persuading her for a relationship,why?1

Now tell me how has integrated science or anything taught in schools helped any child in the face of a manipulative adult? baba d.arkenedrebel
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my point is,this teenagers does not know any better than what they hear and are told while the adults going for them are well aware of what they are doing,judge who should be blamed [/b]

bqlekan:

Apt

misspicy:


even you agree with me that this adolescents and young adults are been influenced by external forces @ bolded,so how is that a fault of theirs that they are cajoled,manipulated and used by the same adults putting out this external forces?

misspicy:

yes teenagers does not know what they really want,in advanced countries, they are called MINORS

misspicy:

They think and reason according to their environment and upbringing,so my dear is that enough reason for a matured man (an adult o) to manipulate them because they grew fast for their age?

misspicy:

the way the society reason 10years ago is very different from the way they do,my age is not a determinate factor for this debate,but I was not cajoled or manipulate by an adult as at when I was a teen,same with girls I grew up around... but my teenage sister gives me complains about adult men persuading her for a relationship,why?

misspicy:

Now tell me how has integrated science or anything taught in schools helped any child in the face of a manipulative adult? baba darkenedrebel

misspicy:

my point is,this teenagers does not know any better than what they hear and are told while the adults going for them are well aware of what they are doing,judge who should be blamed [/b]

Rukkydelta:

i'm not twisting anything. It's very easy to spot a minor, even when they look matured than their age, with the way they talk, you call know that they are still a teen and other attributes they possess. And most cases of rape, the rapist usually have a close relationship with the victims, so the rapist must have a clear knowledge of the victim's age. According to your post, if a adult female is being raped she should take that blame because
she already have a seductive body, right ?

HaneefahRN:

I'm not talking abt rape here, but u will agree these days pple look older than their real age. I once met a 11yrs old girl and I was tempted to argue wt her she is as old as 15yrs. My cousin is 13yrs, if she tells u she is 18, u might nt argue, some 16yr olds look like they are in their twenties and the way they dress and make up doesn't help matters.
About the naivete and lack of discretion, I think this issue has more to do wt lack of contentment of some teenagers. For example at 15yrs, I already knew what I wanted in life, what I will and will not take, I wasn't just a blubbering mass of idiocy tht any man can just come around to sweet talk and sleep wt, yes, we probably make mistakes then due to less experience, but a teenager tht has no problem sleeping around probably cos of the 1K or 2K she'll be given by the guy will most likely grow into an adult wt same reasoning.
I had a classmate then at 15yrs who will be describing how to seduce a man, can u imagine? So don't paint all teenagers like they are all a block of innocence and naivete. U make ur decision to sleep with tht guy cos he'll give u money, if she had enof scruples to say NO to him. Yes, some men are plain dogs, but teenagers these days aren't totally naive, they sleep with him for the same reason some adults sleep wt men, for the financial gains, or some stupid sense of love and in order to keep him, then this brings us back to the parents.
Yes. PARENTS. They av a lot of roles to play in these situations. The values left unto the child has a lot of effect on the child.