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Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by uzolexis(f): 11:47am On Feb 14, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: I did not say they were atheist. I said they are not religious which doesn't automatically imply that they are atheist. I can say the same for myself, i am not an atheist but I don't also consider myself religious. It doesn't have to be either/or. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by oodua1stson: 11:48am On Feb 14, 2016 |
Piss off op 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by Ebukaobi: 11:51am On Feb 14, 2016 |
It does not consider wider factors such as science and technology, innovation. For instance the U.S. Registers more patents than the whole of the EU combined. Most scientific solutions are driven by the U.S. That is why I asked you how u came to that conclusion. HDI is just one index . A prosperous country is not necessarily a developed country JackBizzle: 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by paycash: 11:52am On Feb 14, 2016 |
TB Joshua remains blessed. 1 Like
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Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by tunnyl(m): 11:52am On Feb 14, 2016 |
Op what are you saying. "We are backward because we are backward". Seriously?. Whoever said religion is a bad thing?. Our concern is that majority of these miracles are fake or from occult sources. We want these religious leaders to stop deceiving us with their trickery, its treacherous and yes!, its an impediment to any nation's growth. Why? You may ask. The reason is because many Nigerians have been duped by these false prophets. Also these fake miracles lead to worship of religious leaders by gullible people. It also leads to the problem we have now where you see many Nigerians wasting their precious time seeking miracles rather than get up and go find something productive to engage in. Because Nigerians some of us love God and worship him with the whole of our heart doesnt mean we should be seen as fools. This is a country on a journey and we need collective awareness to ensure development. Everybody must be carried along, there is no room for gullibility. When we said we need change we dont just mean in the political and economic sectors/ aspects, we also want psychological change. Everybody should be able to distinguish between a true and a false prophet. |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by Mcowubaba: 11:53am On Feb 14, 2016 |
JackBizzle:wetin bring sharia law for this matter U failed to answer the question- HOW DOES NIGERIA AS A COUNTRY PRIORITIZERS RELIGION, do u even knw what that means Oga it means that as a nation we are guided by Religious laws and principles nd we allocate atleast 50% of our budget on Religious activities.. Does Nigerian Government do that..even the so called pilgrimage was not up to 9% of our annual budget (google is ur frnd), so hw did this 9% of our annual budget prevent or limit the actualization of the remaining 90% of our budget .. In ur attempt to prove ur skewed point u made reference to people caught titling with stolen funds in Churches .i laff in finnish.. So since the independence of Nigeria 95% of the funds that has been looted from the Nation were used to pay Title, build churches nd dash pastors, hahahaha..oga abeg go sleep, u no get talk... so Abacha, IBB, Atiku, Shagari, Shonekan, Tinubu, TA orji Abdulsalami, GEJ et al all brought their 'supposed' loot to Churches ..lwkm So churches nd mosques spread a lot of misinformation, wow.. Even catholic church supports family planning (using a woman's non-fertile periods as a yardstick) ..wetin bring HIV cure nd churches 2geda, na the church give dem HIV eh, nd for ur info, millions have received geniune healing and miracle in Churches nd places of worship... I hope u even know that u practise religon, atheisim is a religious view ooo... I hope u don't prioritize it more than ur life pursuits .. Keep blaming TB joshua, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Oyakhilome for your State's problem nd Governors inepititude..,, not Kwarruption, greed, incompetence.... Na religion bring dwn oil price , na Christianity dey make dollars increase .... Oga cari ur babe go valentine show for ur area, u no get talk... M done replying u....peace# 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:54am On Feb 14, 2016 |
uzolexis: Religiosity in this case is ambiguous - being an adherent to a religion/ affiliated with a Religion and dedication to one's beliefs . I was talking of the former and you the latter . JackBizzle says they are not religious as regards to their affiliation/adherence to a Religion , that's what we are arguing about |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by fyneboi79(m): 11:55am On Feb 14, 2016 |
Acidosis:All of them pastors black or white are common thieves! Bloody fake thieving cheap liars! And their followers are f00ls. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by uzolexis(f): 11:56am On Feb 14, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: alright 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by JackBizzle: 11:56am On Feb 14, 2016 |
Ebukaobi: Ironic that most of those solutions are originally from Japan/South Korea and largely produced in China. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by OCHOdee(f): 11:57am On Feb 14, 2016 |
Been going through the arguments here, but look what I found #hardtruth 1 Like
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Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by Ebukaobi: 11:59am On Feb 14, 2016 |
I'm not talking about imitation and manufacturing I'm referring to the actual product design. The U.S. Outperforms the rest of the world JackBizzle: 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by gebest: 12:00pm On Feb 14, 2016 |
as far as i kn, Reinhard Bonnke will nt ask u to bring ur landed property, cars, nd money, he spend hundreds of thousand of dollars to sponsor his crusade, all by himself, but our nigeria pastors...................hmm. |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by TriggerHappi: 12:02pm On Feb 14, 2016 |
I'm a Christian though Im not all that religious but I do believe in God. Fuuuuuk who don't ✌ |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by Smooyis(m): 12:02pm On Feb 14, 2016 |
ebamma: Keep waiting for eternity until you see a pastor that will go to the blind school or sambisa forest. If the wonders and miracles I see done in the Synagogue church of all nations had been done in other lands or countries, they would have long repented and changed their ways for good. Stay tunned to EmmanuelTV live every Sunday and see that God has not really changed. He remains the same for ever more. |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:03pm On Feb 14, 2016 |
JackBizzle: Please stop being delusional . You dont understand what spirituality is all about . Its just like someone saying he sees Christianity in human affection As for the studies.....well..........google na ur paddy. If you dont know how studies are don then...you should learn to read/research for yourself cc :unphilaz ... same thing you were complaining of 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by Mcowubaba: 12:06pm On Feb 14, 2016 |
bizgai:As expected u failed to point out the role Religion plays I hope u knw u also practise Religion- atheism is a religious view, i guess atheism plays a lot of role in undevelopment... I am not looking for miracle, I AM A LIVING MIRACLE, my life has been full of GOD's mercies throughout, no reason for regrets in life, its all been great...Jesus Christ leads me on to greater heights daily, hw do u guys survive with Christ ?, Mehn, it must be stressful ooo....... |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by Sanchase: 12:07pm On Feb 14, 2016 |
95 percent of Churches in Nigeria is a Scam , take it or leave it !!! 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by JackBizzle: 12:08pm On Feb 14, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Ok I lied about spirituality. That one was clearly me being unserious |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:09pm On Feb 14, 2016 |
Ebukaobi:That Norway is the most advanced How do you define development? In the case of a country's situation ?
By not being religious , how exactly do you mean? |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by JackBizzle: 12:10pm On Feb 14, 2016 |
Ebukaobi: Sony, Samsung, Sharp, Toyota, KIA, Honda, Hyundai, JVC, Daewoo, Toshiba etc are all Japanese/south korean companies. Thin again 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by Ebukaobi: 12:17pm On Feb 14, 2016 |
Did you notice that all those fall into 2 categories- electronics and cars. US innovation is more diversified . Three U.S. Companies - Google Apple and Facebook are probably more profitable than all those companies you mentioned The innovation output in Silicon Valley alone is probably higher than Japan these days. Just like her economy , Japanese innovation has stagnated . JackBizzle: 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:18pm On Feb 14, 2016 |
JackBizzle: Religious extremism and intolerance are one the problems in Nigeria . Will you say the internet is bad because of internet scam , Pgraphic sites , cyber bullying etc |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by banmee(m): 12:20pm On Feb 14, 2016 |
UyiIredia: What evidence? |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by Ebukaobi: 12:23pm On Feb 14, 2016 |
I would argue that there are more atheists than Christians in Norway but as always these sort of issues are always fluid And complex From my observation and with some experiential evidence, Most atheists are usually younger folks who interestingly start re-embracing religion as they get older. The hippies of the 60s who were strongly anti- religion are now the ones that attend Sunday services. @ Norway I was just being difficult, let's forget it KingEbukasBlog: 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by sabdaz: 12:31pm On Feb 14, 2016 |
Seriously, Why do we ridicule religion like this? The only time the Christians unite on any thread at all is when they need to fight Muslims. Whenever someone converts to Islam from Christianity, their tongues turn wholesome. Whenever there is any terrorist attack, Muslims are bashed here and there. Now look at it, instead of propagating religion and take it as a way of life, you bring topics that will cause commotions. Christians here have started dissing their fellow Christians. I don't think anyone has been forced to attend the churches of Oyakhilome or Okafor. Leave anybody to whatever fate he possesses. When there is no love amongst yourselves, how do you get prepared if the enemy is approaching. Whether a pastor performs miracles or magic, if you choose to believe it, fine, if you don't, good. |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by Okies27(m): 12:33pm On Feb 14, 2016 |
sonOfLucifer:. We actually need to learn n i can speak of my own church that generates their own power and so many other things. An American said last year that if our govt can copy some of the things our churches do to become great, Nigeria will become great. I repeat,some churches ...... Our underdevelopment is as a result of govt and not us being religious. Even some of this religious organisations are doing certain things the govt needs to learn from. |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:35pm On Feb 14, 2016 |
Ebukaobi: Lolz |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by Dindondin(m): 12:35pm On Feb 14, 2016 |
JackBizzle:try to argue without insult. the op just made a point that its not only religion that makes people go backward. negative mentality also adds to it |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by wisestman(m): 12:36pm On Feb 14, 2016 |
Acidosis: I wonder why you waste your time educating people on topic like this , there is no need. they called Jesus worst names how much more his servants. just leave the fool to be a fool and the wise to be wise. everyone has that right. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Nigerians Disbelieve T.B Joshua, Chris Okafor's Miracles? See Reasons by noblegrex: 12:58pm On Feb 14, 2016 |
Oyiboman69:op you lack eti gbon |
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