Mrfahaz:
we were promised change but we were not promised smooth road........gradually we will get there
God bless Nigeria

kITATITA:


When people like you are blowing up gas pipelines, you think Buhari will queue at the filling station with plastic container to buy petrol.

Tpave:
And Fashola wants to increase tariff while the power generation is on a decline.

Adminisher:


[s]Yes if i were Buhari, i would put the whole region on lock down. Full militarization of the place. Let them come and fight Nigerian Army. Since they think they will win, it will last years and they will lose everything . Young people will grow from teenage to thirties fighting. Then they will kniw what curse of war is about.
Maybe that is what the North needs to catch up with the rest of the country.

Generally speaking i am inclined to people suffering when they glorify war. Go and ask kids in Syria. They have lost everything and all the parties fighting will never ever ever get what they are fighting for[/s]

9japrof:
I am not a professional in the energy field but why must we continue with old ways that had been proven to be ineffective. sometimes I wonder whether this country is cursed, we have been doing this national grid stuff for many years and it is proven to be ineffective and we still insist it must work.

Why don't we unbundle the power stuff into six regions, the south south has the gas(we use the gas turbines to power electricity there) south east(Enugu) has coal, (get coal fired turbines to power electricity for the eastners {after all China and south Africa still use coal to power a large percent of their energy needs}. The north here has sun and dams (e.g Niger state with kainji, jebba, shiroro dams) use it to power the energy needs in the north. etc.

Why would we spend resources pulling energy to one national hub and still spend resources to distribute this energy and no doubt energy is been lost during the process.

People brought in APC to bring about change with the way things have been going before. the large carmotose of the national infrastructure can not be blamed on them but the truth is that it is always easy to criticize when you are not in the helm of affairs (e.g the silly sunday oliseh was so vocal during his time as a TV pundit, criticizing the then coach and the national team, Buh when he came on board he failed miserably)

Talk is cheap, I expect APC to change the political structure of this country, that is the only way we can develop, when regions compete effectively using the available resources within their regions and not depending on the entitlements from the centre, then we can grow. A million Buharis can't make Nigeria better without making the state/regions viable.

What are the advantages of unbundling Power are:

we spend less on constructing gas pipes from south to north (thereby saving foreign exchange Lol), that been said , less sabotage less maintenance.

People in the region would hold people around them accountable for the energy problems they have. people would tend to protect power facilities in their area cos they know that if it is vandalised they suffer it.

Common sense ain't common

Trailblazer1:

Are we not suffering all these together
Ngeneukwenu omenka passingshot mynd44 Obiagelli Beremx
were you all exempted from this suffering
May you suffer more change

LordAdam:


Solar is too expensive.

What we should invest heavily in is coal power. More electricity is derived from coal worldwide than any other source of electricity. It is cheap, we have plenty of dormant coal reserves in Nigeria.

I think Buhari should also do something about the vandalism. Even if na to setup special task force that stretches through the host communities. Contract the local vigilante of the host communities. And give strict conditions should leak or vandalism occur in their domains.

Nigeria's security apparatus cannot guarantee the smooth operations of all the pipelines in Nigeria. If we have surplus of gas and use gas as a major driver in the production of electricity, I wonder why we would allow pipelines to be vandalized at will.

If it is oil pipelines that will disrupt oil production and stop money from flowing into the pockets of the northern elite, they will send battalions. But when it is gas pipeline to supply gas for production of electricity for the average Nigerian, they will sit in their AC office dishing out propaganda because they run the administration on diesel generators.

Nigeria's problem is the structure. It is too defective. The President would do nothing because he doesn't have the right advisers, or because his advisers serve other masters. If the minister does something on his own, it would have no weight because civil servants have their own agenda. Even the security people have their own agenda. Community people have their own agenda. Youths have their own agenda. Electricity producers and distributors have their own agenda.

We are just been pulled in all directions. That is why electricity supply in Nigeria will keep dancing back and forth. Even if you make Thomas Edison Minister of Power (Works and Housing) in Nigeria, the glut will still remain. We have to restructure the country, because it is the same rot that is affecting all the sectors.

Imagine ASUU asking the FG to exempt them from TSA. After they run universities like independent economies and receive more salary than the soldiers protecting our lives and property.

-Lord

Emekamex:
The government should invest more on dams.
-It is more reliable and more stable.
-It is less prone to vandalism.
Gas supply has always been an issue in Nigeria year in year out due to vandalism, it is about time we think outside the box and do things differently.

LordAdam:


Don't mind them. It was under GEJ that the first coal electricity production plant was commissioned by a private company. I wonder if that project will be continued, now that Buhari is there. Or if more coal plants will be commissioned by Buhari.

No expert has said we cannot use coal electricity in Nigeria or that we would not derive the same benefits countries like US, China, South Africa and the rest of the world is deriving from using coal to produce electricity.

The worse part is that Nigeria has a very huge market for electricity. The total estimated demand including industries according to MAN is at least 100,000 MW. Then Nigeria can export electricity to the entire West Africa, spreading our influence and bringing in more revenue.

-Lord

Adminisher:


Yes if i were Buhari, i would put the whole region on lock down. Full militarization of the place. Let them come and fight Nigerian Army. Since they think they will win, it will last years and they will lose everything . Young people will grow from teenage to thirties fighting. Then they will kniw what curse of war is about.
Maybe that is what the North needs to catch up with the rest of the country.

Generally speaking i am inclined to people suffering when they glorify war. Go and ask kids in Syria. They have lost everything and all the parties fighting will never ever ever get what they are fighting for

obailala:
I totally agree with you on the coal matter, I understand the need to utilise Nigerian gas for power generation (instead of flaring it off). But the recurring issue of gas supply cuts has become to worrisome for ages and viable alternatives have to explored. There is absolutely no reason why Nigeria shouldn't have at least one or 2 mega coal power plants around the Enugu/Ebonyi/Benue/Kogi axis. These areas have abundant supply of coal, and unlike gas whose interrupted supply can instantly lead to a shutdown of the plants, sufficient buffer stock of coal could be stockpiled at coal plants to account for an extended period of a supply cut. This over reliance on gas really has to stop if we must make any progress in power generation; it's really disheartening that the nation's power supply can just nosedive by almost 50% within weeks.

bluaero:


I'm still finding it hard to believe someone can sit down to type this rubbish! You need help

9japrof:
I am not a professional in the energy field but why must we continue with old ways that had been proven to be...

IzonOwei:
nigeria is being run on the same template of failure and still expecting different results..what stops each zone in the nation from autonomously generating power form its energy sources present in the zones


what is stopping us from adopting true federalism and regionalism so that we can grow....

kYjelly2:


you are not yet a full zombie, still in transition

Reference:


Abi oh. Using the resources at its doorsteps. That is business sense. Not the nonsense ethnic-foolery we practice in Nigeria. No gas plant should be located outside the Niger-Delta. It doesn't make economic, security or strategic sense. What is a gas plant doing in Kogi state. What is another doing in Osun. Is that not the major reason why the biggest one Egbin will never operate optimally. It is a fish out of water. The plant in Kogi will have better served as a coal fired plant. Kogi has some coal and a rail line some 300 kilometres to Enugu's coal deposits will have been a better economic decision than a 700 kilometer gas pipeline to Escravos or wherever.

LordAdam:


Your sense dey there. We need true federalism in this country if we really want to develop in less time.

It is a good thing that APC is failing. At least, people are now receptive of the idea of seeking a long-lasting solution than banking on fake promises.

-Lord

huntax:

Must people always compare present and past governments whenever issues arise? It's becoming childish to be frank. Even the purest led government encounters challenges. Jonathan wasn't improving and we opted for a change in government. If this one doesn't improve, we will do the same. Stop making it seem as if Jonathan would have done better. If the vandals were killed like fowls, you'd all come here and accuse Buhari of being a military man.

Adminisher:

Please let us be factual.

There was exactly ZERO construction or commissioning of coal fired plants during Jonathans time. All i remember is an MOU.
Infact the ex minister of power signed more MOUs than contract agreements throughout his term.

Coal is the best and easiest solution but GEJ did nothing to turn around the coal mining sector . All Buhari has done is also mere good intentions as well.

0rex:

Nailed it!
But trust me, except a revolution occurs, Nigeria can not work.

People resist all these things, it's not like professionals in the field don't know or haven't recommended them.

Reference:


Why pipelines. Why not locate the power plants right there at the gas fields. Instead they scatter them round the country for ethno-sentimental reasons. If a particular gas well or a collection in close proximity can sustain a 10 megawatt plant so be it. The oil majors have been doing so for decades to power their operations and host communties. In the US and europe there are thousands and thousands of plants of all sorts of sizes and fuels it is impossible for system collapse to occur. Must every plant be 500 megawatt and located in someone's village a gazzilion miles away. Poor strategy. Foolish thinking. It is like building a dam in Lokoja and then piping high pressure water to turbines in Lagos. Daft.

0rex:

Nailed it!
But trust me, except a revolution occurs, Nigeria can not work.

People resist all these things, it's not like professionals in the field don't know or haven't recommended them.

IzonOwei:
now you just mentioned exactly what our aged problem is..We must locate infrastructures for energy production in proximity to where energy sources are located to save cost and up efficiency...I remember back in then days when bayelsa autonomously ran it's electricity production via gas turbines without any entanglement with our useless national grid...We would usually enjoy light for 6months without a blink..The moment bayelsa state integrated it's power production into the national grid everything fell apart yakata...this country will remain a curse if we don't do things the right way...

LordAdam:


I think the policy makers are subtly against the coal idea because it will have to be located in the SE axis. The first coal electricity project started under GEJ was by a private consortium. It will be interesting to see what Buhari and Fashola say about it. As for this year, none of Fashola press statements has mentioned anything about coal.

I think like the refinery and tomato paste private sector revolutions, coal electricity production is one sector that will need private sector revolution if it needs the support of the federal government. The major problem is that the power sector is a capital-intensive sector especially the production/generation sub-sector. Our banks can't sustain the amount of loan involved citing the lots of bad loans they have and the current state of the economy. FDI is at its lowest levels in 5 years, the privatization of the electricity sector is not yet complete, so we cannot exactly count on foreign investors to throw their money into private coal electricity production.

About the gas, it is a fairly recent idea to base the bulk of our electricity production on gas. It used to be the dams. So challenges are expected. However, the stakeholders have to figure out a way to check the frequent vandalism. Now is the time to do goat and yam theory because Nigeria does not have the finance or means to monitor all the gas pipelines with manned security guards, and brute force is not a solution.

If true federalism was in vogue, this problem would be far less severe. So right now, it is very difficult to say how we can curb this. Even the oil pipelines that is predominant in just two zones (SS and SW) with a standing military force (JTF) and contracted private security (Tompolo (before his fall out), Ayiri (still has his contract) et al), and billions of naira spent on security, we still have vandalism from the creeks in Bayelsa to the slums in Ijebu. It's now vandalism of gas pipelines throughout the country that we would be able curb?

Buhari and Fashola has to act fast in this regard because there is no more oil boom, oil will remain at perpetual lows for the next couple of years, so we cannot afford to be sinking money in the wrong hole. Moreover, if investors don't make the profits they expect in time, it will greatly undermine our privatization efforts.

-Lord

9japrof:


I dislike APC and their propaganda but I don't pray they fail, you know why ? cos if their fail, the Nigeria project keeps failing and it boils down on the common citizens like us who would bear the brunt fully.

Nigeria needs surgical procedure, that's the only remedy, but how would that surgical procedure come about, don't even bring in the revolution ish here cos it cannot work in the multifaceted and polarised country like Nigeria where tribalism and nepotism holds sway. We are stucked for good

9japrof:
I am not a professional in the energy field but why must we continue with old ways that had been proven to be ineffective. sometimes I wonder whether this country is cursed, we have been doing this national grid stuff for many years and it is proven to be ineffective and we still insist it must work.

Why don't we unbundle the power stuff into six regions, the south south has the gas(we use the gas turbines to power electricity there) south east(Enugu) has coal, (get coal fired turbines to power electricity for the eastners {after all China and south Africa still use coal to power a large percent of their energy needs}. The north here has sun and dams (e.g Niger state with kainji, jebba, shiroro dams) use it to power the energy needs in the north. etc.

Why would we spend resources pulling energy to one national hub and still spend resources to distribute this energy and no doubt energy is been lost during the process.

People brought in APC to bring about change with the way things have been going before. the large carmotose of the national infrastructure can not be blamed on them but the truth is that it is always easy to criticize when you are not in the helm of affairs (e.g the silly sunday oliseh was so vocal during his time as a TV pundit, criticizing the then coach and the national team, Buh when he came on board he failed miserably)

Talk is cheap, I expect APC to change the political structure of this country, that is the only way we can develop, when regions compete effectively using the available resources within their regions and not depending on the entitlements from the centre, then we can grow. A million Buharis can't make Nigeria better without making the state/regions viable.

What are the advantages of unbundling Power are:

we spend less on constructing gas pipes from south to north (thereby saving foreign exchange Lol), that been said , less sabotage less maintenance.

People in the region would hold people around them accountable for the energy problems they have. people would tend to protect power facilities in their area cos they know that if it is vandalised they suffer it.

Common sense ain't common

IzonOwei:
now you just mentioned exactly what our aged problem is..We must locate infrastructures for energy production in proximity to where energy sources are located to save cost and up efficiency...I remember back in then days when bayelsa autonomously ran it's electricity production via gas turbines without any entanglement with our useless national grid...We would usually enjoy light for 6months without a blink..The moment bayelsa state integrated it's power production into the national grid everything fell apart yakata...this country will remain a curse if we don't do things the right way...

9japrof:


I dislike APC and their propaganda but I don't pray they fail, you know why ? cos if their fail, the Nigeria project keeps failing and it boils down on the common citizens like us who would bear the brunt fully.

Nigeria needs surgical procedure, that's the only remedy, but how would that surgical procedure come about, don't even bring in the revolution ish here cos it cannot work in the multifaceted and polarised country like Nigeria where tribalism and nepotism holds sway. We are stucked for good