To all that says 5M is not too much, I will like to remind you that we are talking about Naira not Zimbabwe dollar?

Does the government need to be in the business of constructiing public toilets though? I mean is it that peoplle need government to provide this too?

Even if the govt has to provide it, they need to probe this real well and check how the money was spent, cos i smell some rat here

@Fhemmmy

I think we need to ask ourselves what kind of Public utilities we want. We need to ask for quality and not quantity. As a Zikite, I was brought up in the tradition of always striving for quality in anything I do. I don't believe in a public toilet that will look like a bus-stop just with one toilet seat and one wash hand basin I'm talking of a Public toilet with at least 5 compartments and three wash hand basins. There will also be a space for urinating, you know. What I'm saying is that each of the Public Toilets should have 5 toilet seats and 3 wash hand basins with running water. Then the 5 million Naira will be justified  I have seen Public Toliets in the past in Nigeria and they were just ridiculous in design and structure. No wonder they broke down and became dilapidated I believe Akala will not give the contract for the construction of the toilets to local contractors, many of whom execute contracts shabbily. I want the Governor to use credible Engineering firms operating in Nigeria.

The Oyo State Government also has to employ cleaners that will make the toilet areas neat and hygienic.  There should be signs and notices around the toilets that will give instructions to users as they empty their bowels Cheers.

akinalabi:

I think its about the type of toliet.

I dont think N5 is too much for one toilet.

u need to open ur fridge & take some cold drink. Who told u 5m per toilet isnt much. Or maybe u meant 5K, then i will understand its a syntax error. Is it the queen of England or Obama that wants to use it.

Redman44:

@Fhemmmy

I think we need to ask ourselves what kind of Public utilities we want. We need to ask for quality and not quantity. As a Zikite, I was brought up in the tradition of always striving for quality in anything I do. I don't believe in a public toilet that will look like a bus-stop just with one toilet seat and one wash hand basin I'm talking of a Public toilet with at least 5 compartments and three wash hand basins. There will also be a space for urinating, you know. What I'm saying is that each of the Public Toilets should have 5 toilet seats and 3 wash hand basins with running water. Then the 5 million Naira will be justified  I have seen Public Toliets in the past in Nigeria and they were just ridiculous in design and structure. No wonder they broke down and became dilapidated I believe Akala will not give the contract for the construction of the toilets to local contractors, many of whom execute contracts shabbily. I want the Governor to use credible Engineering firms operating in Nigeria.

The Oyo State Government also has to employ cleaners that will make the toilet areas neat and hygienic.  There should be signs and notices around the toilets that will give instructions to users as they empty their bowels Cheers.

Only people that has ate and drink something will use the toilet, people are hungry and has no job and the dumb freaking governor is spending 25M for 5 toilets and we here justifying it?
They have hired pple to make sure the toilet is clean and hygenic? excuse me, i think the governor has a misplaced agenda and it is sad.
they need to find a way to invest in better things, they cld used those to build some affordable homes, invest in some people for biz and trading and then, they have have money to eat and be able to use the fukced toilets

@Fhemmmy @Kobojunkie

If you have a relative who's an architect or an engineer, they will be able to tell you the true costs of constructing Public Utilities. It is easy to think constructing a Public Toilet should not cost much until you start building the facility yourself As the work goes on, you will start spending money. Then you will realize the enormity of the work at hand. It is easy to pontificate and suggest how things should be done, until you're shoved into the hot seat yourself. Think about the cost of the Suck-Away, the Borehole and the aesthetics. Then think of workmanship fees. I'm not talking about building a cubicle and calling it a Public Toilet. I'm talking of an edifice that will take about 5-6 people at a time and have a male and a female area. Cheers.

Too expensive biko, will he do that with his personnal money

Redman44:

@Fhemmmy @Kobojunkie

If you have a relative who's an architect or an engineer, they will be able to tell you the true costs of constructing Public Utilities. It is easy to think constructing a Public Toilet should not cost much until you start building the facility yourself As the work goes on, you will start spending money. Then you will realize the enormity of the work at hand. It is easy to pontificate and suggest how things should be done, until you're shoved into the hot seat yourself. Think about the cost of the Suck-Away, the Borehole and the aesthetics. Then think of workmanship fees. I'm not talking about building a cubicle and calling it a Public Toilet. I'm talking of an edifice that will take about 5-6 people at a time and have a male and a female area. Cheers.

hahahahahaha
in a place where i am sure they have the leafs to clean their yansh when they are done, i am sure no Tissue there as well.
I rest my case sha, but i think it was a waste of money and the money cld be better spent on other needs

Who knows the type of toilet they want to construct. Even a whole edifice with whole components built with marble can cost less. They may just drop pit toilet there or mobile toilet quoting 25m.

@Fhemmmy,

I'm not here to defend Governor Akala but I don't think he should be blamed for people going hungry or being jobless. It is only in Nigeria that people expect the government to provide jobs for them and feed them. I agree that that the Oyo State Government needs to provide a conducive environment for business to flourish and create skill acquisition centres. However, one of the basic things a government needs to provide is Public Utilities. You said Nigerians are hungry Can you tell me the level of hunger of Nigerians? Is it not the same Ibadan where I had my undergraduate education? The same Ibadan that has the amazing Bodija Market?  Is it not the same Ibadan where bus drivers and conductors eat like kings? While I was studying in Ibadan, I used to visit Bukas and Canteens in town and I was usually outdone by the conductors when it comes to ordering good food These guys ate like kings ordering all kinds of meat and fish with small wraps of Amala, fufu and eba.

I believe if these drivers and conductors invested the money they made into profitable businesses, they wont have to wait for the government to provide jobs for them. Instead, many of them spent it on food, drinks [ paraga] and prostitutes How many jobs is the British Government providing for their citizens? It is the private sector that drives the economies of the advanced countries. Jobs provided by the Government should be about 15% while the Private sector provide the other jobs. Look at America and how it coped with the Great Depression of the roaring 20's [ 1920'S ] Franklin Delano Roosevelt  [ FDR ] came in and turned the country around. And what did he do? He provided lots of utilities and infrastructure and built many Public buildings, schools and institutions. FDR also made the American environment friendly to investment and business. The Private sector did the rest.

Fhemmmy, do you know that the American Government closed its eyes and allowed smugglers to have a field day because many of the smugglers invested their money back into the American economy? This kind of agreement between the US government and smugglers [ Drug Cartels and Goods Smugglers ] still exists till today. Forget about the official laws, mate. During the Great Depression, the Gangster, Al Capone, was allowed to feed poor people in California and New York while the Government looked away briefly from his illegal activities. My research revealed to me that we have about 786 Microfinance banks in Nigeria Nigerian youths need to start thinking. Nigeria is a country where I see citizens complain in the afternoon, but would down 5 bottles of Gulder or Guiness [ odeku ] in the night . They spend money on excesses but cant think of innovative business ideas. I have other things to do online. Let me exit Nairaland for now. Cheers all.

His mates in LAGOS are building mega cities,dedicated bus routes,Planting trees,Energy cities,lighting Streets,building schools,roads and hospitals, and he is building toilets!!!

The man and all his supporters on this Forum need their heads examined!.

This bleaching/tinted Governor won't cease to amaze me o,
shey na Public Toilets dem need 4 Ibadan now? I'm embarrassed,
Security- 0 (despite the fact that the man is a retired police officer)
Education- 0,
Enough bad roads in Ibadan- Queen Cinema Road, Anfani/ College Crescent, Oke Ado Road e.t.c.
Mokola Roundabout looks like an incinerator,
the whole city is littered with destitute.
Electricity- forget it,
the basic amenities that we're entitled to, this yeye man can't provide and he's here talking about Public toilets,
Rubbish,

Is public toilet not a basic amenity that must be in place in any city?. Unless N5M is for one toilet with 20 units, I think the amount is over inflated.

@Redman.
I have never been and never will be an advocate of goverment providing jobs for all the citizen, however, the govt has their own to take care of.
Most hospitals in Ibadan are going south and messed up and all he cld do is invest in Toilets for 25M
the govt could invest in training people and giving them hope and future, they could train them in some trades, cos when theya re trained and they have a job, it is to the better of their states.
The govt could provide some money for some small biz and let them start making a living and have a way to repay the loan.
There are too many thins that cld be done, the roads are bad and mind u, bad roads dont aid services and biz.
The farmers are hungry, invest in some high breed agricultural stuff.
get them some machineries.
Not a toilet.

Beline:

To all that says 5M is not too much, I will like to remind you that we are talking about Naira not Zimbabwe dollar?

Abeg tell them oooo. N5M can provide 30 mobile toilets around Ibadan.

Fhemmmy:

@Redman.
I have never been and never will be an advocate of goverment providing jobs for all the citizen, however, the govt has their own to take care of.
Most hospitals in Ibadan are going south and messed up and all he cld do is invest in Toilets for 25M
the govt could invest in training people and giving them hope and future, they could train them in some trades, cos when theya re trained and they have a job, it is to the better of their states.
The govt could provide some money for some small biz and let them start making a living and have a way to repay the loan.
There are too many thins that cld be done, the roads are bad and mind u, bad roads dont aid services and biz.
The farmers are hungry, invest in some high breed agricultural stuff.
get them some machineries.
Not a toilet.

The toilet is a necessity. Do you know what our women go through everyday because they want to ease themselves?

Aloy.Emeka:

Is public toilet not a basic amenity that must be in place in any city?. Unless N5M is for one toilet with 20 units, I think the amount is over inflated.

I am sure there are Restaurants around all over the states, so why cant people use those?
there is not doubt that it is a necessity, but there are priorities

Use restaurants to ease yourself?. You think obodo Nigeria is obodo oyibo?. Dem no born you well make you enter mama Dupe restaurant and pee without buying anything. Many of them don't have toilets anyway.

Aloy.Emeka:

Use restaurants to ease yourself?. You think obodo Nigeria is obodo oyibo?. Dem no born you well make you enter mama Dupe restaurant and pee without buying anything. Many of them don't have toilets anyway.

haba, Nigeria is not yet that terrible as to that you cant walk into a restaurant and tell them you wanna use the washroom
But my argument though is that, there is need for investment in other things that are more important

illiteracy has taken the better part of our leaders.

It is amazing that Akala wants to build public toilets where people don't even have water to drink and government cannot provide water.Pipe borne water does not flow anywhere in Ibadan.If you have been there recently you'll see how people carry buckets and jerry cans around searching for water.

Who says N5m is not too much for toilet? I can authoritatively tell you that with N6m you can finish a 3br flat with 4 toilets and washing hand basins, I mean standard fittings.I stand to be challenged on this !!!
except he's planning to have megatoilet stations with 20 toilets, but I can assure you that what we'll see at the end of the day will make people mad.

I wish him well however, Fashola and Amaechi are setting targets for governance and responsible governments should key into it instead of embarking on projects that will not have serious impact on people.There are thousands of things to do in Oyo state to improve the welfare of people and he should wake up and work.

Fhemmmy:

haba, Nigeria is not yet that terrible as to that you cant walk into a restaurant and tell them you wanna use the washroom
But my argument though is that, there is need for investment in other things that are more important

Okay, let me warn you well well: never ever enter somebody's restraunt and demand to use their non existent restroom without buying even a bottle of coke. bars sef no get toilet for here.

Ops E:

It is amazing that Akala wants to build public toilets where people don't even have water to drink and government cannot provide water.Pipe borne water does not flow anywhere in Ibadan.If you have been there recently you'll see how people carry buckets and jerry cans around searching for water.

Who says N5m is not too much for toilet? I can authoritatively tell you that with N6m you can finish a 3br flat with 4 toilets and washing hand basins, I mean standard fittings.I stand to be challenged on this !!!
except he's planning to have megatoilet stations with 20 toilets, but I can assure you that what we'll see at the end of the day will make people mad.

I wish him well however, Fashola and Amaechi are setting targets for governance and responsible governments should key into it instead of embarking on projects that will not have serious impact on people.There are thousands of things to do in Oyo state to improve the welfare of people and he should wake up and work.

\I beg tell them jare

Aloy.Emeka:



Okay, let me warn you well well: never ever enter somebody's restraunt and demand to use their non existent restroom without buying even a bottle of coke. bars sef no get toilet for here.

I will remember that when next i visit home, i hate public washrooms anyways.

Ops E:



Who says N5m is not too much for toilet? I can authoritatively tell you that with N6m you can finish a 3br flat with 4 toilets and washing hand basins, I mean standard fittings.I stand to be challenged on this !!!
except he's planning to have megatoilet stations with 20 toilets, but I can assure you that what we'll see at the end of the day will make people mad.

Abeg help me tell them.

can anybody please tell me who are these toilets to be constructed for and where they wiil be located?

heroes1983:

can anybody please tell me who are these toilets to be constructed for and where they wiil be located?

For you now; You should be happy Akala is spending 25M for your shit. Other govs direct their citizens to the bush.

I am sure one will be near the governor's constitency, so that when he wanna contest for re-election, he can point to it as achievement while in office for the first term- arggggggggggg

Aloy.Emeka:

For you now; You should be happy Akala is spending 25M for your shit. Other govs direct their citizens to the bush.

That is some expensive $hit

People in Oyo state eat balanced diet so, their shit should be balanced and expensive. That is why they voted Akala in.

Dude, did you really need to address me directly? I mean what have I posted on here? I have asked simple questions is all, but thanks for opening me up to speaking my mind.

@Fhemmmy @Kobojunkie

If you have a relative who's an architect or an engineer, they will be able to tell you the true costs of constructing Public Utilities.

Visit my question on why it is Governments duty to build and maintain PUBLIC Loos. I am not sure where exactly these things are going. In a Park? A Stadium? Where? Why is this government in the business of building public toilets?

It is easy to think constructing a Public Toilet should not cost much until you start building the facility yourself   As the work goes on, you will start spending money. Then you will realize the enormity of the work at hand. It is easy to pontificate and suggest how things should be done, until you're shoved into the hot seat yourself.

Spare me the ramblings please!!! You are told that $40,000 is being spent on a PROTOTYPE. Instead of asking how functional the prototype will be or why the need to spend that much on a, yes, PROTOTYPE, you are here trying to cajole me into believing you understand this better than I do? Go bug someone else, abeg!! Lol

Think about the cost of the Suck-Away, the Borehole and the aesthetics. Then think of workmanship fees. I'm not talking about building a cubicle and calling it a Public Toilet. I'm talking of an edifice that will take about 5-6 people at a time and have a male and a female area. Cheers.

I am not talking of building a facility for 5 to 6 people. I am simply asking WHY? And what will a PROTOTYPE mean in this case. If you can research and get me answers to those questions, that will do.

So building pubic toilets will be akala's achievement in Oyo Chai Peter Obi will have some company.

5M for a single public rest room? Haba. . .! I'll keep my peace till the prototype is seen. I know people in Ibadan that built respectable bungalows (3 bedrooms, 3 toilets and bath) with just about 3.5M in Ibadan. Like I said earlier, I'm holding my peace till we see what its gonna look like.