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Re: The Atheists Test by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:15am On Mar 11, 2016 |
johnydon22: This is a non sequitur to what I posted . God has control over nature tho "God did it" is never an answer that should be employed as a placeholder for scientific ignorance.. Again , science assumes . Only if you have a video or images of how the events took place to prove such assumptions happened "God it" anyway . In the same vein , "evolution did it " can be described as ignorance because such has not been observed - macro-evolution off course |
Re: The Atheists Test by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:21am On Mar 11, 2016 |
johnydon22: All I see is circumlocution Again , I ask you how did natural processes derive the propensity for their functionalities ? Artificial processes in computing are designed to run on their own and produce results ON THEIR OWN . How did artificial processes derive those capabilities and tendencies ? Made by man How did natural processes derive those capabilities and tendencies ? This is getting awfully embarrassing - as a comp scientist I am now embarrassed for you |
Re: The Atheists Test by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:36am On Mar 11, 2016 |
johnydon22: Psalm 78: 25-27 25 Man did eat the bread of angels; He sent them food in abundance. 26He caused the east wind to blow in the heavens And by His power He directed the south wind. 27When He rained meat upon them like the dust, Even winged fowl like the sand of the seas The full story above is describing how God sent quails - birds which cant fly with the south wind because its too moist and heavy for them - and bread to the camp of Israel during their sojourn through the wilderness after they complained of hunger . Did you see why I said your response is a non sequitur Again , God has control over nature |
Re: The Atheists Test by malvisguy212: 8:39am On Mar 11, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:true talk. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Atheists Test by ValentineMary(m): 8:57am On Mar 11, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Yes there were freethinkers then who when they tried to enlighten the ignorant masses were killed. Remember Galileo And yes science makes assumptions based on observation. But religion claims it has fact based on what 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Atheists Test by Tellemall: 9:05am On Mar 11, 2016 |
johnydon22: OK. Don't let me spoil your fun. All the best in the argument. Neither of you will change your views, so why bother arguing? Why not just keep your respective views to yourselves? |
Re: The Atheists Test by bxcode(m): 9:25am On Mar 11, 2016 |
johnydon22:Do you know what evasive tactics is called in dialogues? You sound really really really confused and weird .... sorry to say that, no hard feelings. Paid to teach anyone science? Smh. Are we doing instructional learning here or having dialogue based on our different philosophical sense of comprehension? If you can't gimme instances to back up your so called intellectual way of thinking without telling me to go and read them, then where does that leave you on the scale of intelligence. I asked you to give me any observable evidence that supports your claims without me having to receive it by faith ie something that happened billions of years ago, which made you believe in evolution and all the other theories that oppose God's existence, you simply referred me to google. Sir, if you were to be on a live tv having a chat over this dialogue what will you look like on front of the whole viewing audience with your response? Awesomely intellectual? Mr jonydon22, you know that God exists deep down inside you, am 100% sure of that, you can manoeuvre around others with your claims but not with me bro, the only thing I can't place a lid on is why you have choosen to suppress the profound truth about God's existence. Where did it all go wrong for you? 1 Like |
Re: The Atheists Test by bxcode(m): 9:27am On Mar 11, 2016 |
ValentineMary:What observations if I may ask? Point it out clearly with succinct examples. |
Re: The Atheists Test by bxcode(m): 9:45am On Mar 11, 2016 |
Weah96:Oh my word, sir You haven't yet figured out billions of secrets scattered throughout the universe, you can't even make a grain of sand with your so called intellectually modified sense of reasoning, neither can any scientist in this world, our peanut brain is highly fallible to say the least and yet you want to unravel God's identity? How dumb can you get and still breathe? Nobody, no matter the persons belief can unravel God fully, he is a spirit and we are humans. He is God and you are not, so quit being arrogant about knowing him, if you want to know him accept that you are confused in humility and seek him, he will reveal himself to you in a language that only you will understand because he said in his words that if you seek him diligently you will find him. Well, whether you choose to accept it or not we all are still gonna stand before him someday sometime, I hope for your sake you have come to accept that he is in humility before that day. Nice day ahead. |
Re: The Atheists Test by johnydon22(m): 10:00am On Mar 11, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Puhahahahahahahahahaha **faints** You asserted the bible mentioned strong winds but didn't attribute them to a deity and heck you have been shown you don't even read your own bible.. The bible just like other naive ancient works that are products of human intelligence of that era attributed phenomenons they couldn't grasp ... its noble poetry but seriously still naive.. The sumerians did better, they recorded accurately the orbit of Jupiter thousands of years before any other canaanite civilization emerged. that's quite impressive if you ask me ..
Oh we have thousands of IMAGES and videos, thousands of telescopes in orbit and observatories peering into deep space and microscopes peering into the Quantum world. Science is Observation. . . Georges Lamitre a catholic priest was the first to propound the Hypothesis of a Big Bang when he explained the universe was expanding and the point when the expansion began is known as the Big Bang. Many years later it was a confirmed fact by the Young Edwin Hubble using the Mount Wilson observatory confirmed the expansion of the universe. Even Newton and Einstein thought the universe was static before then until proven otherwise.. In science falsified hypothesis are discarded as bogus in favour of a more substantiative truth. Not stuck on to as a dogma ....
Hahahahahaha "God did it" will always be receding in the face of scientific truths, even some Christian sects has modified their doctrines to reconcile with evolution. even when i an atheist is still maintaining an "agnostic" stance as regards evolution and giving time for more studies and observations to be made the Christian sects already agreed with it.. doesn't that tell you something? Evolution didn't do it anyway, evolution is a process not a source it's just development 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Atheists Test by johnydon22(m): 10:05am On Mar 11, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: And we forgot artificial processes as works of man are driven from the inspiration of natural process. I have explained this before ... We call them strings, the most fundamental particle of nature.. Distinct levels of natural elements possess distinct vibration of strings and so there must be a chaotic reaction when these distinct tunes comes in contact... Check the names.. ARTIFICIAL PROCESS - NATURAL PROCESS- Self sustaining and replicating... Oh the difference is so so clear... Nature is not a computer programme at all.. As a computer scientist...Hahahahahaha you are not a physicist sir you should be ashamed for yourself rather Nature and Computer are not same.. Physics not computer science explains nature 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: The Atheists Test by Shollyps(m): 10:10am On Mar 11, 2016 |
bxcode:why do you theist like dragging people down your mess..telling atheist ..you know deep down inside you DAT god exist?...does that make sense to you? its like me telling you ..you know deep down inside you that god doesn't exist..but you just keep on believing because of fear or indoctrination ...atheist don't believe in gods existence... is that too hard for you to comprehend? 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Atheists Test by johnydon22(m): 10:10am On Mar 11, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Exactly "God caused the winds" that was the point just like the romans also thought God (neptune) was responsible.. Now we know totally no humanoid freak is needed for that. The bible also thinks that Rainbow was never there before but was a reminder for an all knowing deity That is totally wrong... As long as light passes through a prism it must disperse in different spectrums... it was not a reminder for any deity not at all just a refraction of sunlight by the atmosphere The ancients used these naive ideas to fill the gap left by their ignorance of the world they lived in. Oh yes every God has control over nature, Only in their religious books 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Atheists Test by Tellemall: 10:12am On Mar 11, 2016 |
johnydon22: All the best arguing. Although, if you both know neither of you will change your opinion, what's the point of arguing? Proving superiority does nothing in the end. |
Re: The Atheists Test by johnydon22(m): 10:15am On Mar 11, 2016 |
Tellemall: Agree with me brother that we were on our own when they opened this thread and called us in. I was actually mentioned ... There is a thin line between Belief and Science. Everyone has the right to have a belief that is a basic human right and i can fight for anyone to have that right but once someone pushes their belief as truth in public without evidence that person is a fraud and a stumbling block to human intellectual development. One can believe anything but it still does not enter into the corners of science drawing board until you can pull out even a bit of a mathematical proof.. Belief is never same as knowledge when it comes to FACTS belief is not needed because it is certain. Well i'll take your advice and leave the thread though let me just have a bit of fun... thank you and all the best.. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: The Atheists Test by Shollyps(m): 10:15am On Mar 11, 2016 |
bxcode:yea...billions of people will stand before him to give account of wat they av done on earth... your God must be a jobless god...he should look for a better thing to do. why should we accept him shev?..wat changes will it bring to our life 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Atheists Test by Tellemall: 10:15am On Mar 11, 2016 |
johnydon22: I particularly don't like it when atheists try to use science as a back up. There is so much in science that you believe that has never been proved, has no evidence and never will have evidence. |
Re: The Atheists Test by Tellemall: 10:17am On Mar 11, 2016 |
Shollyps: That's the job of God. You don't know his job specs, so don't term Him jobless. If I were in my fanatical mode I'd term that a blasphemy. |
Re: The Atheists Test by johnydon22(m): 10:20am On Mar 11, 2016 |
Tellemall: You are correct my brother and i am not here to prove or claim superiority. In fact i am one of those that maintain "I do not know" i am only against the use of unsubstantiated superstition as a placeholder for scientific ignorance. Science is simply put the Philosophy of Nature and utilizes study and observations to make truthful approximations of observed facts without at any point claiming absolute truth has been reached. If one wants to know about nature and the cosmos we live in and you go to ancient religious books surely you've got the wrong answer. Yes everyone has the right to believe what they want but passing it as absolute truth is preposterous. There will come a time when we will marvel at this era when scientific facts are denied just to uphold personal belief systems. All the best my boss... Thank you. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: The Atheists Test by Tellemall: 10:21am On Mar 11, 2016 |
johnydon22: Sorry that you were called in. Don't bother yourself too much about what people believe in. Belief is something ingrained in people. The end justifies the belief. |
Re: The Atheists Test by johnydon22(m): 10:25am On Mar 11, 2016 |
Tellemall: Not all atheists subscribe to scientific thesis we have atheists that are also superstitious even. Science is the modern way of truth deduction, and science is not a dogma rather a means of truthful deductions through observations and study of facts. Who ever uses science as a dogma and not as a product of human enquiry is going about it wrong. And any thesis that is falsified in science is discarded as complete bogus, any thesis that is unsubstantiated is regarded as a mere hypothesis and no scientist will ever claim it is a truth. So that is it... I saw no scientist maintaining the Higgs Boson particle was an absolute truth until it was proven. Now it is a proven fact. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Atheists Test by johnydon22(m): 10:30am On Mar 11, 2016 |
Tellemall: Thank you sir i am inclined to agree.. People believe different things for different reasons that is ok. I am only one of those that discard belief and maintain "we need to find things out" and not believe any assumptions that comes to mind. Our progress should be judged by the quality of our questions and the depth of our answers and our ability to agree with what is true rather than what feels good to believe. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Atheists Test by johnydon22(m): 10:33am On Mar 11, 2016 |
Shollyps: That's why i ignored it.. Some posts aren't worthy of my attention 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Atheists Test by Shollyps(m): 10:38am On Mar 11, 2016 |
Tellemall:term it anything you like.... but remember to tell him he should look for better things to do... |
Re: The Atheists Test by bxcode(m): 10:38am On Mar 11, 2016 |
Shollyps:Do you know what's called a whistle blower? You can't deny it bro, you can do a good job of defending yourself, blasting me and I may not even convince you but that dosent change the truth. There is a God in heaven and he created you and gave you life, period. No big deal By the way I think your moniker is cool |
Re: The Atheists Test by bxcode(m): 10:41am On Mar 11, 2016 |
Tellemall:Lol @fanatical mode. 1 Like |
Re: The Atheists Test by Shollyps(m): 10:41am On Mar 11, 2016 |
johnydon22:lol...I swear!.... but I hate to read silly things n pass by without commenting... since I no get work again... exam is over...am back on nairaland...lol |
Re: The Atheists Test by Tellemall: 10:42am On Mar 11, 2016 |
Shollyps: Tell him yourself. He saw what you typed. He knows all. Speak and He will hear. |
Re: The Atheists Test by Tellemall: 10:44am On Mar 11, 2016 |
bxcode: Yes, bxcode. It's a switch. When I'm hot about it, I'm hot. And topics like this, I'm smiling at the disbelief. But you ehn, free them na. Allow them to rest. They'll need the energy for those hot days. |
Re: The Atheists Test by Shollyps(m): 10:50am On Mar 11, 2016 |
bxcode:its just your own assumption that there is god in heaven...bla bla bla...it doesn't make it to be truth. .not even close it doesn't change my stance Lol...thanks but hope you know the meaning of my moniker? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Atheists Test by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:53am On Mar 11, 2016 |
johnydon22: Ok ... I accept ... How did they derive the propensity to be " self sustaining and replicating" |
Re: The Atheists Test by johnydon22(m): 11:56am On Mar 11, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: WTF ... Read up that string explanation again.... 1 Like 1 Share |
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