The real seniors are watching the children fighting. A couple of them (not in order of seniority) are:

Orangun of Ila
Alaafin of Oyo,
Owa Obokun of Ijeshaland.

emamos:


http://www.punchng.com/alake-is-a-junior-king-in-yorubaland-awujale/

I love this.... Ogbagba gbatewole...Kabiesi oooo

udmbat:
The following is an account of the history of Ijebu Ife as recorded by historians and which is in accord with the traditions handed down by the ancestors of the King of the town, Ajalorun:

Olofin Ogbolu, eldest son of King Oduduwa succeeded his father. He had only reigned for some few years in Ile Ife when, as a result of an annual consultation of Ifa Oracle, the High Priest delivered a message that unless the King, Olofin Ogbolu, relocate from the town with all his sub-chiefs to another part of the Yoruba country to establish themselves anew, Ile Ife and its surrounding towns would be destroyed by flood.

As was customary with our ancestors, Olofin had no choice than to abide with what Ifa decreed. And in company with his chiefs and people, he arrived in many places where Ifa, upon consultations, did not allow him to settle. Some of these include Emuren in Remo Division, Isiwu in Ikorodu Division, Erunwon and Ilefon near Ijebu Ode, Odogbolu, Okemori and Idotun near Isonyin, Odongbodu, Egbe, Okeyejo, Okelugbogu, Imomo, etc, in Ilugun Alaro area of Ijebu Division.

The Elemuren, the Elerunwon, the Alse Omo of Isiwu were permitted by the Ajalorun Olofin Ogbolu to wear beaded crown. “In 1894” the Elemuren entered into treaty of friendship and protection with the British government. There was none of the articles of that treaty in which Elemuren was referred to as “chief” but as King of Emuren.

The Elemuren is a traditional son of Oba Ajalorun of Ijebu Ife to whom he owes the origin of his crown (see page 47 Obaship and Chieftancy by E. Alademomi Kenyo). The Elerunwon of Erunwon near Ijebu Ode has been wearing beaded crown in his settlement since about 1445 A.D. before the Ajalorun finally arrived in Idofe, Oke Ife, about 1450 A.D. i.e 20 years before Obanta arrived in Ijebu in 1470 A.D.

The Intelligence Report of May 1943 by T. B. Bowell-Jones, District Officer (Special Duty) para. 35B Ijebu Ode Villages, admit that the Elerunwon left Ile Ife with the Ajalorun of Ijebu Ife, first settling at Imewuro in the Ilugun Area, then at Idorunwon and Iwaye in the same area, thence to Idotun near Isonyin and finally to Erunwon, where the Ifa oracle was consulted with favourable results; the Ajalorun was the elder brother and that Obanta had not yet arrived in Ijebu Ode.

Any book, hard copy or pdf on this?

Now the truth is glaring,that the Egba land king just aired his opinion abt th oba of benin.the Oba of Benin is a more superior king to the Ooni of Ife.check your history books,the benin empire was a powerful force to reckon with before the colonisation era

Nellybii:


They are the symbols of our identity.
They are custodians of our culture. Upholders of our ego. I know you people don't have them so you can't value them. Just like asking about the importance of the Queen to England. Yeye
Small time someone will come and preach about stereotypes here. mtchewwwwww


#righttodiewailing#

go and learn how to talk to people politely.
Can't you answer a simple question without insult?

udmbat:
The following is an account of the history of Ijebu Ife as recorded by historians and which is in accord with the traditions handed down by the ancestors of the King of the town, Ajalorun:

Olofin Ogbolu, eldest son of King Oduduwa succeeded his father. He had only reigned for some few years in Ile Ife when, as a result of an annual consultation of Ifa Oracle, the High Priest delivered a message that unless the King, Olofin Ogbolu, relocate from the town with all his sub-chiefs to another part of the Yoruba country to establish themselves anew, Ile Ife and its surrounding towns would be destroyed by flood.

As was customary with our ancestors, Olofin had no choice than to abide with what Ifa decreed. And in company with his chiefs and people, he arrived in many places where Ifa, upon consultations, did not allow him to settle. Some of these include Emuren in Remo Division, Isiwu in Ikorodu Division, Erunwon and Ilefon near Ijebu Ode, Odogbolu, Okemori and Idotun near Isonyin, Odongbodu, Egbe, Okeyejo, Okelugbogu, Imomo, etc, in Ilugun Alaro area of Ijebu Division.

The Elemuren, the Elerunwon, the Alse Omo of Isiwu were permitted by the Ajalorun Olofin Ogbolu to wear beaded crown. “In 1894” the Elemuren entered into treaty of friendship and protection with the British government. There was none of the articles of that treaty in which Elemuren was referred to as “chief” but as King of Emuren.

The Elemuren is a traditional son of Oba Ajalorun of Ijebu Ife to whom he owes the origin of his crown (see page 47 Obaship and Chieftancy by E. Alademomi Kenyo). The Elerunwon of Erunwon near Ijebu Ode has been wearing beaded crown in his settlement since about 1445 A.D. before the Ajalorun finally arrived in Idofe, Oke Ife, about 1450 A.D. i.e 20 years before Obanta arrived in Ijebu in 1470 A.D.

The Intelligence Report of May 1943 by T. B. Bowell-Jones, District Officer (Special Duty) para. 35B Ijebu Ode Villages, admit that the Elerunwon left Ile Ife with the Ajalorun of Ijebu Ife, first settling at Imewuro in the Ilugun Area, then at Idorunwon and Iwaye in the same area, thence to Idotun near Isonyin and finally to Erunwon, where the Ifa oracle was consulted with favourable results; the Ajalorun was the elder brother and that Obanta had not yet arrived in Ijebu Ode.

Are you from Ijebu Ife? If yes, from which quarter? I got a book from one of these Ife day celebrations which highlights all the king that has reigned in ijebu Ife. If time permits may be I will post it here.

bigmo1:

Are you from Ijebu Ife? If yes, from which quarter? I got a book from one of these Ife day celebrations which highlights all the king that has reigned in ijebu Ife. If time permits may be I will post it here.

i am Ijebu ife to the core

Is on record and properly documented that Ijebus defeated the Egbas in a war that made them relocated to their present location in Abeokuta. It was Ibadan soldiers that Sodeke and his army defeated during invasion of their.

No Ijebu town were ever conquered till date, I stand to be corrected.

MadCow1:
Game recognise game and Alake aint looking too familiar to the Oba right now..

Riley to Robert freeman

leisuretym:
EGBA NI OKO IJEBU!


EGBA NI OKO IJEBU!

EGBA NI OKO IJEBU!

EGBA NI OKO IJEBU!


BA Wa!!!

You wanto kee yasef? Ijebu has always been >> Egba

AreaFada2:


I think it's the issue of young age and not being prepared to be King from birth. It all came suddenly.

He has to learn on the job.

This supremacy talk should have been quelled right from the beginning by a more experienced Ooni.

The politics and diplomacy of kingship are very important skills.

,
What is happening now is that some people believe that younger generation has to take over everything, well the consequences are already upon us.
We shouldn`t forget that this ego trip was started by Alake who thought he needed to categorise Obas in Yorubaland. So any attempt at damage limitation by Ooni is going to contradict what Alake has said. Really, the Obas that were degraded most by that categorisation are not the ones fighting back now because the implication of that categorisation is that Oyekan of Lagos, Olubadan of Ibadan, Owa-Obokun of Ijeshaland, Ataoja of Osogbo,Deji of Akure, Akarigbo of Ijebu Remo and Co are not that important in Yorubaland. Once you say that directly or indirectly, some of them are going to call your bluff. Interestingly, it`s not one of them that has gone public, so we haven`t heard the last of this non-sense
This was what was happening before the emergence of Pa Awo who managed to unite Yorubaland, but there is no Awo around anymore and the institution of kingship has gone cash and carry. Just like our military generals, you have Obas who can`t handle any difficult situation. I was thinking that you need to learn certain skills before you can become an Oba, one of which should be the ability to handle difficult situation/question carefully.
The one they call the new Ooni of Ife today is not just happy to marry a career divorcee, he has described himself as a christian, and that is the person that is going to be the custodian of the culture and religion of Yorubaland. Maybe he is too young to know the difference between being Mayor of Jerusalem and the Ooni of Ife. Too many rubbish kings around

spiralwedge:


That was OBJ's grand plan.
He did that to spite Awo. The Awujale rightly placed the Alake.

I`m not a fan of Obasanjo, but can you tell the whole story fairly?

ATERI:

I`m not a fan of Obasanjo, but can you tell the whole story fairly?

I have given you a hint, you can now read up history by yourself.
History has no fan of no one, and truth is unfair to nobody.

oluwolexy:
Is on record and properly documented that Ijebus defeated the Egbas in a war that made them relocated to their present location in Abeokuta. It was Ibadan soldiers that Sodeke and his army defeated during invasion of their.

No Ijebu town were ever conquered till date, I stand to be corrected.

You are absolutely right. Ijebus were/are freeborn, they captured, sold and were middlemen to slave merchants. The Ijebus did not allow the whites passage hinderland to other parts of Yorubaland as Ijebuland surrounds Lagos. But the white colonialists mobilised regents and fought the Ijebus near Epe and won and IjebuOde was invaded. The then Awujale was sacked too. And Ijebus industrious monopoly of slavery middlemenship was ended.

The only other route to the other parts of Yorubaland was through Badagry to Abeokuta via ogun river. And it was risky because of the consistent ambush by the Aworis on that route.

story for the gods.

spiralwedge:


I have given you a hint, you can now read up history by yourself.

History has no fan of no one, and truth is unfair to nobody.

Ogun State was created in 1976 during which Obasanjo- also from Abeokuta area of Ogun State- was Nigeria`s Military Head of State. The Panel that was set up to recommend where the capital of Ogun State should be located recommended Sagamu as the best place for the capital. Sagamu is nearer Ijebu Ode than Abeokuta. What happened next was that the Awujale of Ijebuland made it clear that Sagamu would become Ogun State capital over his dead body. Awujale`s problem with Sagamu was that the Akarigbo of Ijebu Remo had not been given Awujale enough respect, that was the opportunity that Obasanjo seized to take the capital of Ogun State to Abeokuta. So the crying Awujale today only has himself to blame because it`s the prestige of state capital that is making Alake more popular than him. If Awujale had not objected the location of the capital a stone`s throw from Ijebu-Ode, Obasanjo would have accepted it as recommended. Awo had to be indifferent because one of his parents was from Abeokuta while the other was from Ikenne, not very far from Sagamu.
In fact, each time I look at what happened in this area around that time, I become convinced that Nigeria`s problem is deeper than some tribalists tend to portray it. Before this location tussle about Sagamu, Akarigbo was called Akarigbo of Ijebu Remo. As a result of what happened between them, the people of Sagamu and Ijebu Remo removed Ijebu from their title and call their Oba Akarigbo of Remoland and it has remained so till today

ATERI:


Ogun State was created in 1976 during which Obasanjo- also from Abeokuta area of Ogun State- was Nigeria`s Military Head of State. The Panel that was set up to recommend where the capital of Ogun State should be located recommended Sagamu as the best place for the capital. Sagamu is nearer Ijebu Ode than Abeokuta. What happened next was that the Awujale of Ijebuland made it clear that Sagamu would become Ogun State capital over his dead body. Awujale`s problem with Sagamu was that the Akarigbo of Ijebu Remo had not been given Awujale enough respect, that was the opportunity that Obasanjo seized to take the capital of Ogun State to Abeokuta. So the crying Awujale today only has himself to blame because it`s the prestige of state capital that is making Alake more popular than him. If Awujale had not objected the location of the capital a stone`s throw from Ijebu-Ode, Obasanjo would have accepted it as recommended. Awo had to be indifferent because one of his parents was from Abeokuta while the other was from Ikenne, not very far from Sagamu.
In fact, each time I look at what happened in this area around that time, I become convinced that Nigeria`s problem is deeper than some tribalists tend to portray it. Before this location tussle about Sagamu, Akarigbo was called Akarigbo of Ijebu Remo. As a result of what happened between them, the people of Sagamu and Ijebu Remo removed Ijebu from their title and call their Oba Akarigbo of Remoland and it has remained so till today

more grease to ur elbow......I av always bn circumspect dt d Awujale have supremacist inclinations.....with this article, my instinct feels fulfilled.

agrovick:
My own concern is when we are going to have Orimolusi of Ijebu Igbo sitting on the throne

bro....from d categorisation of Orimolusi with other obas by Awujale.....I believe he's happy dt a new orimolusi is not emerging.
it's a deliberate attempt to downgrade d Orimolusi throne.

The will of the Almighty God shall prevail....whether man likes it or not!

Egba people are known to be coward.
Ijebu loko Egba since,Oduduwa began journey of no return.

ATERI:


Ogun State was created in 1976 during which Obasanjo- also from Abeokuta area of Ogun State- was Nigeria`s Military Head of State. The Panel that was set up to recommend where the capital of Ogun State should be located recommended Sagamu as the best place for the capital. Sagamu is nearer Ijebu Ode than Abeokuta. What happened next was that the Awujale of Ijebuland made it clear that Sagamu would become Ogun State capital over his dead body. Awujale`s problem with Sagamu was that the Akarigbo of Ijebu Remo had not been given Awujale enough respect, that was the opportunity that Obasanjo seized to take the capital of Ogun State to Abeokuta. So the crying Awujale today only has himself to blame because it`s the prestige of state capital that is making Alake more popular than him. If Awujale had not objected the location of the capital a stone`s throw from Ijebu-Ode, Obasanjo would have accepted it as recommended. Awo had to be indifferent because one of his parents was from Abeokuta while the other was from Ikenne, not very far from Sagamu.
In fact, each time I look at what happened in this area around that time, I become convinced that Nigeria`s problem is deeper than some tribalists tend to portray it. Before this location tussle about Sagamu, Akarigbo was called Akarigbo of Ijebu Remo. As a result of what happened between them, the people of Sagamu and Ijebu Remo removed Ijebu from their title and call their Oba Akarigbo of Remoland and it has remained so till today

My brother abi na sister, this is a mere hearsay.

As a matter of fact, this is exactly what i heard when Abacha/Diya wanted to create Ijebu State in the 90s. Only that it was a rivalry between Sagamu and IjebuOde. Ijebu state was supposed to be announced in that broadcast either with Ekiti or instead of.

Concerning Ogun state creation, history has it that Obj hates Awo's presidential ambitions, (Obj doesn't hide this in his books or interviews) and destabilising Awo's base with newly introduced states was Obj's strategy. The Awujale said this sometimes along this line this year during Ogun state's 40th anniversary celebration.

spiralwedge:



My brother abi na sister, this is a mere hearsay.

As a matter of fact, this is exactly what i heard when Abacha/Diya wanted to create Ijebu State in the 90s. Only that it was a rivalry between Sagamu and IjebuOde. Ijebu state was supposed to be announced in that broadcast either with Ekiti or instead of.

Concerning Ogun state creation, history has it that Obj hates Awo's presidential ambitions, (Obj doesn't hide this in his books or interviews) and destabilising Awo's base with newly introduced states was Obj's strategy. The Awujale said this sometimes along this line this year during Ogun state's 40th anniversary celebration.

Everything I typed above is factual and indisputable, but feel free to describe it as hearsay and rumour

Akinrogun:

more grease to ur elbow......I av always bn circumspect dt d Awujale have supremacist inclinations.....with this article, my instinct feels fulfilled.

My pleasure

Story for the gods! Can someone justify the importance of the present day obas in this present world of ours. For me, they have been cornered by the government probably because of the stipends they collect from "ijoba"...

ATERI:

Everything I typed above is factual and indisputable, but feel free to describe it as hearsay and rumour

Its ok. Did anyone write about this? Or any published interview where people concerned stated this? Obasanjo would have written it about it if it was true. Especially in his book, Not My Will, where he wrote in details tales about the happenings during his military rule.

Akinrogun:

bro....from d categorisation of Orimolusi with other obas by Awujale.....I believe he's happy dt a new orimolusi is not emerging.
it's a deliberate attempt to downgrade d Orimolusi throne.

The will of the Almighty God shall prevail....whether man likes it or not!

Yes o.
From what I heard the Awujale is one of the factors responsible for the non emergence of Orimolusi.
Where in Ijebu Igbo are u from

ATERI:


Ogun State was created in 1976 during which Obasanjo- also from Abeokuta area of Ogun State- was Nigeria`s Military Head of State. The Panel that was set up to recommend where the capital of Ogun State should be located recommended Sagamu as the best place for the capital. Sagamu is nearer Ijebu Ode than Abeokuta. What happened next was that the Awujale of Ijebuland made it clear that Sagamu would become Ogun State capital over his dead body. Awujale`s problem with Sagamu was that the Akarigbo of Ijebu Remo had not been given Awujale enough respect, that was the opportunity that Obasanjo seized to take the capital of Ogun State to Abeokuta. So the crying Awujale today only has himself to blame because it`s the prestige of state capital that is making Alake more popular than him. If Awujale had not objected the location of the capital a stone`s throw from Ijebu-Ode, Obasanjo would have accepted it as recommended. Awo had to be indifferent because one of his parents was from Abeokuta while the other was from Ikenne, not very far from Sagamu.
In fact, each time I look at what happened in this area around that time, I become convinced that Nigeria`s problem is deeper than some tribalists tend to portray it. Before this location tussle about Sagamu, Akarigbo was called Akarigbo of Ijebu Remo. As a result of what happened between them, the people of Sagamu and Ijebu Remo removed Ijebu from their title and call their Oba Akarigbo of Remoland and it has remained so till today

This is far from the truth and its not tenable. Was the panel reporting to the Awujale or do they need his approval? Does the Awujale exercise any constitutional power over the panel and the head of state? What would have happened if the state was created and Shagamu made the capital?

What happened when Osun State was created and Oshogbo made the capital over Ife where the all-influential Ooni Sijuwade was reigning?

Truth of the matter is Obasanjo of that time would never allow any Ijebu town be made capital over his beloved Abeokuta otherwise the Obasanjo we know would have gone ahead with the panel's ''supposed'' recommendation.

Are you Yoruba?

Taolyn4lif:


This is what happens when monarchs talk too much (and with no sense of diplomacy). Monarchs jamtalk a lot these days: this reminds me of the popular 'lagoon' incident. It is expected that an adult should be able to identify issues to be silent about to avoid any form of controversy or disunity.

You are from the dumbest tribe, take care of your problems first.

Uncletony:


U see what i mean?!. I salute their stupidity!

ycat:
Are you Yoruba?

I am a Nigerian

Adaure4ever:
go and learn how to talk to people politely.
Can't you answer a simple question without insult?

Teach me please.

agrovick:

Yes o.
From what I heard the Awujale is one of the factors responsible for the non emergence of Orimolusi.
Where in Ijebu Igbo are u from

hi.....I hail from Okesopen sector........and u?

Nellybii:


They are the symbols of our identity.
They are custodians of our culture. Upholders of our ego. I know you people don't have them so you can't value them. Just like asking about the importance of the Queen to England. Yeye
Small time someone will come and preach about stereotypes here. mtchewwwwww


#righttodiewailing#

and u think Germany Austrian or France or Italy don't ve kings before ? They see no benefit they revoked kingship re we better than them ?with ur ooni or ur seriki