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Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by bettercreature(m): 8:29am On Mar 13, 2016
OreMI22:
PDP has set a bad precedent already by allowing all they allowed.

GEJ should be probed.
Not necessarily because he stole, but to clear his name and reiterate that nobody is above the law.
It's wrong to probe ex-president,the circle will never end and Buhari should be ready to end up in Jail

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Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by GBELLs: 8:35am On Mar 13, 2016
kropotkin2:
Some former ministers that served under ex-President Goodluck Jonathan’s administration will meet the ex-president today (Sunday), SUNDAY PUNCH has learnt.

Barring last minute changes, it was learnt that ongoing investigations of the former President’s aides and calls for his own probe would form part of the discussion at the meeting.

It was gathered that many of the former ministers were not only disturbed, but also jittery by the concentration of President Muhammadu Buhari’s anti-graft war on those who served under Jonathan.

Senate Leader, Senator Ali Ndume, in a report on Friday had said Buhari should authorise the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission to probe and prosecute Jonathan.

Ndume had said, “Nobody is supposed to be above the law. If Jonathan is a culprit, he should face the law. If there is evidence that the former President should face the law, then, he should. After all, he is presumed innocent until proven guilty.”

Also in his response to an enquiry from Saturday PUNCH on Friday, the President’s Special Adviser on Media and Publicity, Mr. Femi Adesina, had said, “The President does not tele-guide the EFCC in any way.”

The Senior Special Assistant to the President on Media and Publicity, Garba Shehu, had also said Buhari did not sign any pact with Jonathan or any past President to exempt him (Jonathan) from probe.

According to Shehu, Buhari, being an open person, would never go into a secret pact with anybody, especially on his administration’s ongoing anti-graft war.

A top member of the Peoples Democratic Party, who confided in SUNDAY PUNCH, said the pressure on Buhari to probe Jonathan would form part of the discussion when the ex-ministers meet the former President today (Sunday).

The PDP chieftain said, “Barring last minute changes, some former ministers would meet Jonathan tomorrow (Sunday) in Abuja. There is no way the issue of probes would not be discussed at such a meeting.”

Probing ex-President will be bad precedent — PDP

But some PDP leaders, on Saturday, called on Buhari not to succumb to pressure being mounted on him to probe Jonathan.

They said doing so would amount to laying a bad precedent.

A PDP Board of Trustees member, Chief Ebenezer Babatope, urged the Buhari-led Federal Government not to probe Jonathan, adding that doing so would humiliate the PDP leader.

Speaking in a telephone interview with one of our correspondents on Saturday, Babatope described those calling for the probe of Jonathan as enemies of the country.

He said the former president should not be probed unless “it becomes brazenly open that a lot of thefts are traced to him, but for now nothing has been traced to him.”

He added, “The late sage, Pa Obafemi Awolowo, said you must not humiliate your leadership. When you decide to humiliate your leadership, it is not Jonathan that you’re humiliating, it is your values that you are casting aspersions on.

“Those calling for the probe of Jonathan are enemies of this country. Whoever is spearheading the probe may be digging his political grave. Have they found him guilty?

“All the noise we have been hearing is about the security vote. Buhari embarked on such a probe during his first coming as a military leader when he threw all manner of Nigerian leaders into jail.”

When reminded that the National Publicity Secretary of the PDP, Mr. Olisa Metuh, and a former Chief of Defence Staff, Air Chief Marshall, Alex Badeh (retd.), said Jonathan approved the monies that they allegedly got, Babatope said the duo reserved the right to tender their positions in court.

When asked if he did not feel disturbed by the number of fraud cases being unearthed by the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission, Babatope said one of the solutions to corruption – as proffered by Awolowo – was equipping the Nigeria Police and giving them free rein to operate.

Responding to one of our correspondents’ comment on the allegation that $1m was found in Badeh’s house, Babatope said Badeh had denied that money was found in his house.

When our correspondent sent a text message to the phone ofanother PDP BoT member, Chief Shauib Oyedokun, seeking to know his opinion on the matter, he said, “Let’s wait till the ‘call’ is formal.”

Also speaking on the issue, a former Special Assistant to the former President on Public Affairs, Dr. Doyin Okupe, said there might be nothing wrong in Buhari asking Jonathan to account for his actions while in office, but that the President should be weary of setting a bad precedent.

Speaking with one of our correspondents on the telephone, Okupe said, “Every regime has the right to investigate and we are not going to talk on whether it is right or wrong to ask the former President to account for his stewards while in office or not.

“But in asking questions about the actions of his predecessor, we must ask whether such actions would be good precedent or not. However, whatever he does is at his discretion as the president and the commander-in- chief.”

A former Deputy National Chairman of the PDP, Chief Bode George, also said there was nothing wrong in probing the activities of former President Goodluck Jonathan while in office.

He, however, said the probes being carried out by the EFCC must be holistic, adding that it would be proper for the national leader of the All Progressives Congress, AsiwajuBola Tinubu, who is also a former Governor of Lagos State, to be probed as well.

George told SUNDAY PUNCH that it was public knowledge that Tinubu had private jets and wondered why the EFCC never questioned him on his source of wealth.

George said, “I have been reading about all the monies that were stolen through the Office of the National Security Adviser and if the EFCC is probing all that with a view to recovering money, I have no problem with that.

“If they feel probing Jonathan is proper, they can go ahead but they must remember that what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. There must be no sacred cow in this anti-corruption war. You cannot probe Jonathan and refuse to probe Bola Tinubu.”

George urged the EFCC to respect the office of the President when probing Jonathan.

A former Minister of Aviation, Chief Femi Fani-Kayode, however said the former President shouldn’t be arrested.

Fani-Kayode told SUNDAY PUNCH that Jonathan had done nothing to warrant being arrested and that those calling for his arrest and interrogation should understand the implications of doing so.

“For example, Senator Ndume called for Jonathan’s arrest. This is a shameful and unnecessary contribution and if Ndume feels that Jonathan has done anything wrong, he should present the evidence to the authorities and the public, rather than try to demonise the man.

“Even where mistakes have been made, I am a strong believer in loyalty and I will stand by the man that I campaigned for during the presidential election, who is also now the leader of our party. Jonathan should be treated with respect and dignity at all times and he should always be given the benefit of the doubt.”

Jonathan’s kinsmen kick

Jonathan’s kinsmen have expressed dissatisfaction over calls for the probe of the former President.

The spokesman for the Ijaw National Congress, Mr. Victor Burubo, told SUNDAY PUNCH that it was wrong for anybody to begin to plot the investigation of the former President.

Burubo argued that since some of the ministers who served under Jonathan were already being investigated, the Otuoke, Bayelsa-born politician should be allowed to enjoy his retirement.

“I don’t think he (Jonathan) should be probed. In every government, there are people responsible for various functions and when such people are found wanting, they are fished out and probed. It is not the head of the government that should be probed.

“In Buhari’s government, people padded the national budget. Would they now say that Buhari should be investigated? Nobody has said that Buhari should be investigated,” he said.

Describing Jonathan as a national icon who has been winning international awards since he left the seat of government, Burubo urged critics of the ex-President to show respect.

Also, the spokesperson of the Ijaw Youth Congress, Mr. Eric Omare, said in a telephone interview with SUNDAY PUNCH that the ongoing probe of Jonathan’s former aides could as well be termed as an investigation of the former President.

“Jonathan is already under probe. If you are probing those under the former President, you are as well investigating Jonathan,” Omare said.

Similarly, the National Coordinator of the Niger Delta Youth Parliament, Mr. ImohOkoko, rose in defence of the former President, saying he should not be probed.


http://www.punchng.com/efcc-probe-ex-ministers-to-meet-jonathan-today/
“There is nothing more difficult to carry out, nor more doubtful of success, nor more dangerous to handle, than to initiate a new order of things. For the reformer has enemies in all those who profit by the old order, and only lukewarm defenders in all those who profit by the new” – Niccolo Machiavelli
Reorientation of a people who have become used to things being done in a certain way is extremely difficult. The government of GEJ is already being probed the 2b USD arms scandal, and the rest are all probes of GEJ it's already happening so its amusing when people come out and say he should not be probed. undecided undecided
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by canalily(m): 8:35am On Mar 13, 2016
angry explain these body languages belowangryundecided

Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by gurunlocker: 8:39am On Mar 13, 2016
All the probing they have been doing since last year, which Money have they recovered except their huge bail fund placed on people they probed?

This government has nothing to offer till 2019
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by Btruth: 8:41am On Mar 13, 2016
Let it be the yard stick to rule this country. If any incoming government feel it's necessary to probe the former, so be it.

All we want is a corruption free society, so that the country can move forward.

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Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by mideactive: 8:43am On Mar 13, 2016
Very funny!Jona is human n a Nigerian.if him 4kup make dem treat am wella.na dem go complain4 bad economy,no fuel,no light but to fight corruption na sin.I bow 4 Nigerians
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by klax(m): 8:43am On Mar 13, 2016
I know APC will come up with counter statement this morning when Lie Mohammmed saud their Lord Buhari can't handle the economy again.

I knew it and they did not disappoint me. Sore failures. I knew they will coined out a lie and said one PDP saI'd this or that.
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by JahJaa(m): 8:43am On Mar 13, 2016
Well we shall see how far things will go.
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One may end up putting another to Shame & Vice versa
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Eyes on my Phone screen & tv screen, ears on radio grin Observing the Latest Development.
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Abeg who is with me ? Who is waiting for the end result with Jah-Jaa .

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Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by blessbliss(m): 8:44am On Mar 13, 2016
donpress36:
POLITICIANS

Am an innocent. I rule without stealing public funds.

SUPPORTER

I trust you my role model. Go to court and prove to them my master

POLITICIANS

See this idiot. Court ko, court ni ... I will only arrange some money for IPOB members to start protesting and give the WAILERS #1,000 each to buy Osogbo weed and Origin. Then am Good to go.

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donpress36:
POLITICIANS

Am an innocent. I rule without stealing public funds.

SUPPORTER

I trust you my role model. Go to court and prove to them my master

POLITICIANS

See this idiot. Court ko, court ni ... I will only arrange some money for IPOB members to start protesting and give the WAILERS #1,000 each to buy Osogbo weed and Origin. Then am Good to go.

grin grin grin
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by JahJaa(m): 8:47am On Mar 13, 2016
8-) cheesy
9ja4show:
Let's see how it goes
Indeed but E Get as e bo oo
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by bluecircle470: 8:47am On Mar 13, 2016
Jonathan has casted an aspersions on himself already fool!

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Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by mlanreh: 8:48am On Mar 13, 2016
TheNonce:
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All I read here were _stupid excuses from bitter expired politicians, thieves and old fools!

“I have been reading about all the monies that
were stolen through the Office of the National Security
Adviser and if the EFCC is probing all that with a view to
recovering money, I have no problem with that.
“If they feel probing Jonathan is proper, they can go ahead
but they must remember that what is sauce for the goose is
sauce for the gander. There must be no sacred cow in this
anti-corruption war. You cannot probe Jonathan and refuse
to probe Bola Tinubu.”

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Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by babyfaceafrica: 8:49am On Mar 13, 2016
AbuMaryam1:
Buhari please probe Jonathan, I wish he will be found clean. Then come to 2019, please Jonathan contest and defeat Buhari. Buhari concedes defeat, mhm now Jonathan is steering the wheel. My problem he is clueless, Abba Moro has been given a state pardon and enlisted in ministerial list. This is Jona for you. Once a clueless is always a clueless.
jonathan cannot be stwupid enof to contest in 2019......he will still loose...he is a nice guy,but politics is not for nice guys....fear north!!!
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by Nobody: 8:50am On Mar 13, 2016
The world is a global village. Even if Buhari and Babatunde F refuse to give us light for updates, i have my phone. Even if my b3 is low, newspaper vendor is available, if the increas the prize, if will buy my durcell b3 last long and radio to update myself.

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Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by Okanokan(m): 8:51am On Mar 13, 2016
Its a precedent and its good for the Nation. Every leader has a past, a present and a future.
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by kolokolobi(m): 8:53am On Mar 13, 2016
I've noticed some interesting diatribes over time. First it was do not probe the last administration. Then media probe. Witch hunt. Then if there is evidence they should be taken to court. Then when taken to court it now becomes persecution and not prosecution. Then that not one single conviction has been obtained. Or that not one single kobo has been recovered. Now it is bad precedent to ask a former president some questions.

For some us it's really simple. If you got your hands in some pies when you shouldn't you should be asked why.
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by omnino25(m): 8:54am On Mar 13, 2016
Lol, just can't wait......it will be fun all the way to kuje prison.....just don't know why they don't bring them to kirikiri....lols
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by thankgodegbedi(m): 8:55am On Mar 13, 2016
apc

Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by anonym0us: 8:57am On Mar 13, 2016
Godjone:
This illiterate president will go down in history as one of the unfortunate thing to have happened to the country

u said u support palestine state and western Sahara, but you call the one happening in ur home a joker.

Try and arrest jonathan and see this country burn.

Useless cattle herder
na ur village go burn...
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by jeffooh999(m): 8:57am On Mar 13, 2016
Did Gen Gudluck Jonathan run probe blame system of government...!!!!
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by Akaujaa(m): 8:57am On Mar 13, 2016
I've heard some PDP clowns call on Buhari to also probe people like Tinubu, Amechi and others APC stalwarts as a way of proving that the fight against corruption is not a witch hunt exercise. Now, I ask, was The past government of Jonathan barred from probing the likes of Amechi, Tinubu or other APC members during their regime? Is it Buhari's fault that the immediate past PDP government choose to get busy syphoning our common wealth instead of probing corrupt government officials? Besides, I've not seen Buhari probe any body who served at the state level yet except those who served at the federal level during the last administration. So what's these noise all about? For me, Jonathan's probe should have come earlier before now because it's impossible for the legs to move perfectly without the eyes.
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by tinsel: 8:58am On Mar 13, 2016
All the criminals arouind Jonathan are running helter skelter. Because if Jonathan is probed things will be traced to them.
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by topsam1(m): 8:59am On Mar 13, 2016
I think GEJ should be happy that he is going to be probed...he has always been claiming innocense of everything that happened under his umbrella...maybe after his probe he will come out clean...na nija i dey see where people go dey prevent politicians from being probed...
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by SweetOlive(f): 9:02am On Mar 13, 2016
If probing him would revive our dead economy, go ahead, probe him and stop ranting because I'm sure he's gon come out clean. Noise makers undecided
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by Nobody: 9:12am On Mar 13, 2016
Though I never liked how Jonathan handled issues during his tenure, I don't support the idea that he should be probed...Nigeria already have a bad image internationally, Jonathan has been putting portraying us in good light with his numerous international accolades...Probing him will only tell the world that Nigerian presidents are corrupt irrespective of who is on seat. Jonathan is a wise and educated man, probing him can expose Harliburton scandal, Obasanjo's regime, and trust OBJ who knows truely well that HE THAT ON THE FLOOR FEARS NO FALL
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by oloye4kay: 9:15am On Mar 13, 2016
hope you people knw dat Rome cannot build in a day........Pdp rule for sixteen year without focus another means of generating income for nation.....and d only source of income for nation call Nigeria dose people looted.......Dis GEJ said stealing is not corruption ........
He need to be question......let dem prob him
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by kenrish2(m): 9:16am On Mar 13, 2016
Godjone:
This illiterate president will go down in history as one of the unfortunate thing to have happened to the country

u said u support palestine state and western Sahara, but you call the one happening in ur home a joker.

Try and arrest jonathan and see this country burn.

Useless cattle herder
dat what so many Dnt understand an attack on jonathan will be viewed as a direct attack on the south (militant) and the east(biafra) only boko we have been battling for years y not probe ''tinubu'' before probing jonathan so that every one will know the corruption war is not selective
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by unite4real: 9:16am On Mar 13, 2016
tuniski:
Hot air from a disaster called apc/buharii. If u Want to probe GEJ probe him don't talk!

All the noise about probing is directly proportional to the current govt non performance. An overwhelmed bunch seeking redemption by flying watery propaganda.

Probe someone without talking? So all should be paper communication abi? Guy think we'll joor.
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by Alexikarri: 9:18am On Mar 13, 2016
Let the probe go on and let's see what the Ipob who believe my beloved PMB don't have the balls to probe the weakest president ever GEJ will do to save their hero
Re: Probing Ex-president Jonathan Will Be Bad Precedent — PDP by duduade: 9:24am On Mar 13, 2016
Isn't he a human being....?
Why can't he be probed..

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