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CraigB: Well, humans = South Africans.

Humanoids = Naai-gerians.

at least the humanoids and SA animals are worth more and being fought for than south african humans that die like rats everyday by gun violence.

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Msauza: I truly understand that you come from those dirty universities in Nigeria which do not even have decent hostels. In SA Universities we compete among each other during weekends by our various residences (Hostels). When we compete in military games we normally play rough by running around university roads with cannisters (usually poles) and those who reach the final point wins. Moreover we compete by crossing obstacles and swimming pools, etc. We also usually compete in soccer, volleyball, rugby, etc where we even gamble and those who win the money buy themselves beers at the university bar and also have a braai (barberque). I won't blame you because you don't get to experience these things at your universities of low class.

errr... Sorry boss, we call all this child's play extracurricular activities in our schools. The real para military orientation and training happens after university and trust me you won't last one week in that camp.

Am surprised your over hyped schools never taught you that those playground activities you mentioned are termed as extracurricular activities. Na wa o

Msauza: I am all tired about animals this and animals that. We are speaking humans here and not rhinos. The real poachers are Boko Haram.

at least the government and soldiers are fighting to protect humans.
While your government value's the life of an animal to to south africans.

So in your own case, your poachers exist in the bushes and the streets of SA. But your government will rather spend resources to protect animals... Bwa ha ha ha ha ha

Msauza: Do you mean SANpark special forces and Anti-poaching squad? Those do not work with the protection of humans but animals. They are specialised game rangers.

rubbish. You SAns alway like to rebuff facts and it's such a damn shame that you can't put up a coherent argument when your own filth is dug up for you.

After i gave many evidence that your government deployed troops and special forces, US special forces also deployed. This is the rubbish you came up with as defense.. Shame

answer why you government will rather spend resources to save animals while humans are dying everyday. At least you were the one that stired the argument.

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Msauza: FAILED!!

ok why don't you answer why your government would rather send special forces both from abroad to protect rhinos while people are killed everyday in SA streets.

At least our troops are battling to save lives instead of animals..lol

NaijaPikinGidi: it is very safe to say that South Africa will save Rhinos while Nigeria will save humans! that's why we are rapidly locking down on our State of Emergency operations! Simple!!

oh Gawd!!! So on point..lol

oya over to the questionaire... Answer your own question..lol

Msauza: Can anyone please answer Swanky?

maybe he should try stating the objective of his question cos answering it will definitly derail the thread more. Like if i respond by saying : people are also killed in the streets of SA, women are also constantly being raped, drug lords have taken over the streets, gangs are shooting everywhere, robbers rob and kill etc.. Despite the development. But does it mean the life is not valued in SA?

We are talking about military capabilities to perform effectively when called upon and the guy is asking a baseless question.

Msauza: Link please.

The SANDF deployed 265 soldiers at Kruger National Park and the borders around the park
http://www.dod.mil.za/operations/poaching/rhino.htm
i still have sources that says more troops are still being deployed.
Small fraction indeed.

CraigB: Typical foaming-in-the-mouth comments from a Naai-gerian.

Point number one: you're wasting your time if you think that calling a South African gay is insult. We are enlightened and are light years ahead of you homophobic lot. You are behind the curve of human progress and still on the dark ages. Your belief that calling people gay is an insult only shows how backward you are.

Point number two: the anti poaching effort is under jurisdiction of the environmental affairs ministry. It's not under the jurisdiction of the military.

Poaching is not just a matter of crossing a boarder. Not that you'll get that.

Point number four: If you want to argue that the few military personnel involved as strategic operators are outmanned, then what are you making noise about?

It's not their operation and when Zetdee says "not even a fraction" and you say "outmanned", why are you monkeying around?

This is not Naai-geria where the whole military component was recalled to fight BH, undercover of fighter jets, yet bombs are still going off!

You need to drink something bitter and green, subspecies.

this comment is pure gibberish. The more reason i stopped arguing with you.

Your comments always lack objectives. What a Brainless goat.

a comment written as blah blah blah blah blah is on point than this rubbish you wrote.

Msauza: Since when are rhinos human being? Boko Haram is busy with human poaching in Nigeria.

dude rhinos or human, your national heritage and a source of revenue is under threat. And your troops are too incompetent to fight poachers.

Msauza: So, just helicopter seen flying over national park is now the whole SANDF. Small number of SANDF might be used for anti-poaching mission but that is surely not their area of responsibility.

dude in 2011 alone SANDF deployed almost 300 troops to fight poachers. Fast forward to 2013 when it has gotten worse, how many do you think they'll have there?

Sense brah.. Use your sense

Msauza: That is the blatant lie. Zuma is under a political pressure against opposition who are pushing agenda that SA is projecting itself as an imperialist against poor African countries.

mudafvcking LIAR

Msauza: Not on a large scale. SANDF has more responsibility of working in the borders after taking that responsibility from the police.

keep fooling yourself
if it's not full scale, why were special forces, drones, helicopters etc deployed?

"We've got one [b]Intelligence Tactical Regiment from Potchefstroom, which specialises in intelligence gathering. Special Forces and 21 Batallion, both in the park and on the borders," says Colonel Bobelo. The ground troops are supported by helicopters for a speedy chase of poachers.[/b]
http://www.dod.mil.za/operations/poaching/rhino.htm

look, what you should be asking yourself is what will happen when you start to face a full scale insurgency. since your military is not capable to fight common poachers. think really deep o

Msauza: Its not a war, A war is what happens between you and Boko Haram. Rhinos are being killed but that doesn't affect me any bit. What could have affected me is if this "BooooommM! BoooomM! BoooooomMM!" could have been done to my people and our Army has nothing to do about it.

you should apply for the next cast of MR BEAN. you are a natural talent for that role. confirm MUMU

so i guess you know better than your military that have already declared war a long time ago, and are losing big time to the extent of intervention from foreign special forces.

our forces are ready to come to your aid once UN gives the green light

South Africa sends in the army to stop rhino poaching in the Kruger

'We have declared war on poachers' says Minister Sisulu

April 2011. The South African National Defence Force (SANDF) had been asked by South African National Parks (SANParks) to play a strategic role in the protection of South African National Parks, especially the Kruger National Park. The SANDF deployed to the Kruger where the park borders with Mozambique and Zimbabwe at the beginning of April 2011.




i just got the original not photoshopped image of SANDF

Msauza: Its not a war, A war is what happens between you and Boko Haram. Rhinos are being killed but that doesn't affect me any bit. What could have affected me is if this "BooooommM! BoooomM! BoooooomMM!" could have been done to my people and our Army has nothing to do about it.

have you asked yourself why boko haram has not affected our economy after 3 years, we kept growing?

now ask yourself if your tourism sector is badly hit(cause i know those poachers will move to killing other animals), won't it hit your economy badly? as tourism is also a huge revenue earner for SA. you don't have sense

by the way our military is killing boko haram everyday and yours are busy smoking hashish in the bushes while poachers continue to threaten your interest.

what will happen when disgruntled miners get angry again and this time start throwing bombs? who will save you by then, since your military can't handle ordinary poachers? food for thought

Msauza: Since when killing of animals become national security threat? It seems as if your fake 100% Nigerian brain cannot work for you to help you with classification of security. Rhinos are not human and we are only keeping them because we love them and feel that they deserve to live. Poaching of rhinos has been happening all around the world until all population of rhinos outside SA become extinct. SA has over 80% of rhinos in the world.

keep fooling yourselves. so one of your biggest source of revenue and natural resources is threatened and you say it's not a national threat. you are an ignorant slob. i even seem to know more about your country than you

Rhino poaching: National security threat
The GRAA called on President Jacob Zuma and the South African government to fully acknowledge the onslaught that rangers are facing while they attempt to protect not only South Africa’s rhino but its natural heritage in general.

According to the association the situation has escalated from an environmental issue to one of national security.
http://www.news24.com/Green/News/Rhino-poaching-National-security-threat-20130529

Msauza: You are lying!! SANDF never deployed its members on full scale to this mission. Rhino poaching is not a war.

if it's not a war, why is the military been deployed with drones, helicopters and help from foreign special forces.

despite all these resources, they are still failing. what will happen when you face a full scale insurgency?

Msauza: You can never change my Original post, it still stands.

you must have quickly edited it

Msauza: The retired US special forces volunteered to transfer their skills on a newly formed South African National Park (SANpark special forces) and Anti-poaching squad.

I repeat, poaching is not a national security threat, but merely a crime. No wonder SANDF is not deploying its troops in full force.

is this supposed to be a joke or what
if SANDF knew how to do the job, shouldn't they be the ones transferring the skills to anti-poaching squad?

guy you are a fvcking shameless liar. SANDF is fully deployed to fight poachers and so far they lost many men and a helicopter. i posted that earlier.

please stop talking about other country's problems cos SA is riddled with so much of it as well. even if you enjoy living in denial.

your military has been involved for a long time.
these are Two SANDF soldiers and a Kruger National Park Ranger looking out for would-be
poachers.

Msauza: It doesn't matter. There are times when trainers are beaten by their students. for example, seleka defeated us and we haven't started training them yet

that's more like it

Msauza: BOKO HARAM IS BACK WITH A BIG BANG.

BooooooooomMMM!!! BoooooooooooommMMM!! BoooooooooooomMMM!!

This syndicate kill people and not rhinos.

try dealing with poachers that have turned your security forces to toy soldiers before worrying about us.

before you know UN will pass a resolution to send 30,000 intervention force to protect those rhinos for you. since your military is incapable . dumbass

Msauza: We are busy speaking about the killing of people and you are whining on and on about killing of animals for which I am not going to shed any tears for them. Let me shed some light on this issue, poaching is not a security threat but cruelty to animals which are almost facing the phase of extinction. It was also suggested in many ways that poaching is as a result of some corrupt game rangers and veterinary surgeons who work together to help Asians with vital information and easy access. Poaching is a syndicate crime.

blah blah blah blah blah.... first you claimed your military is not involved and now you want to cover your exposed behind by claiming it's not a security threat.
so if it's not a security threat, why is your military involved? why did US special forces with war experience come to your rescue?

typical south africans. you get caught and start giving excuses. bunch of hypocrites

Army foils regrouping of terrorists •Arrests group leaders
The plan by a band of terrorists who relocated to Niger Republic to re-mobilise and rearm insurgents with the aim of carrying out fresh terrorist attacks on some Nigerian communities has been foiled.

Also, the leader of the group who was said to have fled Nigeria when the terrorist camps were sacked was reportedly recruiting fresh hands and training them for renewed terrorist activities in Nigeria.

Director, Defence Information, Brigadiar-General Olukolade noted on Thursday in Abuja, that the intention of the group was to focus its attacks on some towns around the Nigeria-Niger Republic border.

Already, he stated that the leader of the group and other cohorts had been arrested by the operatives of the Multi-National Joint Task Force (MNJTF).

“Intelligence operatives of the Multi-National Joint Task Force (MNJTF) had been on the trail of the leader until he was eventually arrested in Karanga, Niger Republic, on Saturday, with the cooperation of Nigerian forces. His other accomplices were later picked up in other villages in Nigeria.

They are currently being interrogated,” Olukolade said.
http://www.tribune.com.ng/news2013/index.php/en/component/k2/item/18126-army-foils-regrouping-of-terrorists-%E2%80%A2arrests-group-leaders.html

just posted this to let some people know the mandate of the MNJTF and Nigeria still being the boss of it.

Msauza: Boko Haram killed 15 Nigerian soldiers. Chei!! Boko, if I were to rank you where exactly would I have put you?

http://newsdiaryonline.com/jonathan-says-nigeria-winning-war-on-terror-at-burial-of-soldiers-boko-haram-killed/

your IQ must be low on intelligence is you think 15 soldiers casualties in a 3 year war is too much. unlike your SANDF that lost almost 50 in one day in CAR. what would have happened had the war extended?

Msauza: Lies! SA has never deployed any special forces to fight rhino poaching. That assignment is just too weak for their mandate.

see this mugu. you people just love deceiving yourselves. or you mean too strong for them.

The SA Defence Force is investigating its third military aircraft accident in four months after a helicopter crashed in the Kruger National Park on Saturday night, killing all five soldiers on board.

All spokesman Brigadier-General Xolani Mabanga was adamant that the five soldiers were part of the anti-poaching operation. “They were in the Kruger as part of Operation Rhino.

“SA soldiers are at the forefront of fighting the scourge of rhino poaching in our country,” the union’s national secretary, Pikkie Greeff, said in a statement.
http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/limpopo/sandf-to-probe-knp-air-crash-1.1494025#.UftcD6wUaSo

your military is to weak to fight common poachers. so will they be able to face a full scale insurgency like boko haram?

US special forces helping south african weak military to fight common poachers

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Msauza: Rhinos have long been taken care of by the game rangers until the army came in. Ever since the take over by the Army, the Rhino poaching has declined dramatically. SA has never lost any war against Rhino poaching.

Moreover, South Africa has a well organised security cluster to battle Boko Haram. Our security is so organised such that we have many specialised branches to tackle any security threat in our country. Nigeria must just admit that the Boko Haram saga caught them flat footed when they have all along been relaxing to invest more in the development of their safety and security. Crime in SA is what makes our authorities to forever want to bolster our security from time to time. Boko Haram has defeated you toughest men wrongly considered to be among the powerful armies in Africa by you when they infact act cowardly towards engaging Boko Haram. Plastic soldiers, so to say.

BLOODY SOUTH AFRICAN LIAR
even you armed forces are too weak to fight poachers and the US has sent it's own special forces to help your weak armed forces.


US to help South Africa fight Poaching
More than 100 park rangers have been killed by these poachers in the battle to halt these criminals. The situation is worsening. [color=#000000]Park rangers and security forces are desperate for help. [color=#000000]And now four U.S. special forces veterans have come to help fight for the rhinos[/color]...

Beginning on Thursday, March 7, at 9 PM (ET/PT), Animal Planet will be embedded in BATTLEGROUND: RHINO WARS, a three-part miniseries that documents this intense conflict that is centered on the worldwide commercial demand for rhino horns, an exotic commodity that's more valuable than gold on the black market. [color=#000000]The miniseries reveals the conflict between blood-thirsty poachers and one of South Africa's anti-poaching units, which has recruited armed forces to stop the illegal[/color], lucrative trade of rhino horns. [color=#000000]Cameras reveal a bloody war that these elite U.S. warriors find themselves fighting, in an area where both rhinos and people are being slaughtered with increasing regularity.[/color][/color]
http://press.discovery.com/us/apl/press-releases/2013/us-military-forces-are-south-africas-new-weap-2225/

please tell me how south africa will last one month with islamic terrorists as sophisticated as boko haram if they can't fight common poachers?

agaugust: can south africa face B.oko H.aaram ? No, south africa will collapse under such a threat in one month [/b]

no doubt. If SA can whine about poachers after deploying special forces and drones, they will definitly collapse under a terror threat as sophisticated as boko haram.

They should go and find out how many nations have collapsed under such threat,
even Britain was almost brought down during the IRA insurgency, Taliban still claims very large territory in Afghanistan with upon fighting the best forces in the world.
Boko haram after 3 years campaign cannot even lay claim to one portion of land in Nigeria. Abeg hail our warriors for me.

*stands up to salute our galant warriors*

NaijaPikinGidi: You still are talking through your porous behind! Show proof of the so called competition that you are attempting to equate to the NYSC Camp and paramilitary training! Prove my assertion about the non-existent Universities Military Games that you tried to sell to us wrong! Notice how your kith and kin are silent and leaving you to your falsehood! As usual another SHIBOBO on yourself!

don't bother. he's just gonna dodge this one as he has done with others

Msauza: Then it shows that you do not follow this thread.

another joke.
all i keep seeing are world war1, 2 that wasn't your war, you were just used the same way Nigeria was used as support troops.
and the bush war you fought for 30years without winning, is that what you call achievements. you are funny