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Re: Innoson Making Fighter Jet Parts - CNN by tonychristopher: 6:06pm On Mar 26, 2016 |
abdulkayus: But you have not been beating your chest all these while ..have you crossed your Waterloo And where has it taken you...just curious ! |
Re: Innoson Making Fighter Jet Parts - CNN by skj1377(m): 7:23pm On Mar 26, 2016 |
kobonaire:I agree with you besides before today for the last 12 years the ibos have been known to assemble motor bikes and put whatever name they like on it example '' fragend''. Imv is simply built on the same business model in this case assembly of motor cars just like the okada business model by previous business men. That is why imv has an assembly line that can assemble any thing from cars to buses and trucks. This model of business can be adopted by any body just like pure water Moji autos chukwu autos Emeka autos and all will start assembly just like imv. The secret of any car is its engine that is why most car manufacturers pioneer engine development and keep it a secret never to be sold. Most automobile pioneers actually designed the first set of engines whether two stroke or for stroke engines example ford, Honda, Benz , Porsche Mitsubishi ,Toyota and a host of others . Imv unfortunately can not and does not and will never design a reliable engine for any of his lmv vehicles. If you know the man you will know why I said so. To design an engine is not easy that is why even the Chinese can't design reliable engines till date, imv uses Chinese engines how I wish he was using Japanese engines for his cars. This is also the reason why most IBO branded motor bikes or okadas despite having assembled over 10 million okadas over a period of 20 years still can't design the two stroke engine of these machines that have brought them so much money and prestige. This problem is not IBO or Yoruba its just a black man problem. I always shake my head when tribal bigots fill proud about a name badge on a Chinese product. IBO's just like an average black man is very superficial the degree varies per tribe starts from actual foolishness dumbness and stupidity. Do you know the amount of money spent by young shall grow motors alone on importing brand new macopoloes alone is enough to start 5 luxury bus production lines as well as set up a research in to the most basic deisel engine design. Put the engine into buses and supply their needs and the rest of nigeria buses for the next 100 years. If any nigerian business man designs a four stroke engine as reliable as a 1965 Honda engine from local materials he will be the richest auto maker in all of Africa. Why because casting his engine block will bring costs down from N2million per complete engine due to exchange rate to N50k per brand new engine. Just as I said the engine is the hardest thing to design in a car and if that can be done at N50k the whole car will cost less than N400k brand new profit inclusive. Once the engine is reliable a new car at 400k is better than a toks. At 400k. Ordinary folks like me will buy it even osun state government will buy. Nigeria will earn foreign exchange from selling engines sorry buses and cars to other African countries at least. |
Re: Innoson Making Fighter Jet Parts - CNN by Nobody: 8:52am On Mar 27, 2016 |
skj1377:Please do your research before speaking your opinion and assumptions . Innoson uses a combination of Cummins engines for the bigger vehicles and buses and Japanese engine from mitsubishi* it's in their Website. I know you mean well but ultimately innoson and the other manufacturers cum assemblers can not be expected to design and development and mass produce anything within nigeria because nigeria simply do not have the capacity both in human capital and technical infrastructure to produce alot of things. We don't have one dedicated university or institution with international standard level of education and training in anything both manufacturing or other sectors . Plus we produce as a country less electricity and power than the little island of Taiwan in one or two of their power stations. The country isn't serious enough yet have such high hopes and expectations of innoson and Co. That's a national collective delusion of grandeur. We need about at least 20 years of intense unbroken chain of infrastructural development including education both of international standards. Which I don't see coming soon. |
Re: Innoson Making Fighter Jet Parts - CNN by mercyville: 3:25pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
kobonaire: Well,with time Innoson & co will get to be up to 70% and more.Innoson needs a lot of support from govt and the elites.He has taken the right step doing a collaboration with Dong Feng of China. He may not have gotten uo to 70% but he gas taken a giant leap and needs the cooperation of all all Nigerians. Read this: Ok, YES the engine and transmission are imported, but even these come in the Complete Knock Down (CKD) state i.e completely disassembled. But for the fact that we have a company in Nigeria that even assembles car engines is a giant step in the auto manufacturing industry. It simply means that with enough money invested in research and development, the company may in a couple of years begin the designing and production of its own engines! And talking about engines, I am a bit of car freak myself and will tell you that some the V8 and V6 engines used British made Jaguar and Range Rovers are made originally by Ford. Even the Eco-Boost technology seen in new model Ford products these days (e.g Explorer, Escape, Edge) is based on the original Mazda MZR engine. It is normal for even large car manufacturers in the world to team up with the even so called 3 world car producers to make vehicles. The Donfeng Motor Corporation on whose some of Innoson’s engines and chassis are modelled, have partnered with names like Citroen, Honda, Kia, Nissan, Peugeot, Infiniti e.t.c to make foreign branded products in China. In addition, the company capitalises on this technology transfer to make its own model of cars, buses and trucks, some of which they have begun exporting to other countries! Today Dongfeng is one of the top 3 automakers in China, with over 160,000 employees and netting a whopping $62bn revenue in 2012. I believe Innoson should be commended and further encouraged by the F.G by way of patronage e.t.c. because they have taken an extremely important step. While it is true that Volkswagen, Peugeot (PAN) and more recently, Nissan in Nigeria are also in the same line of business, one should not forget that Innoson is a locally owned company. Over time they will create more local content much more than PAN and Volksvagen who will continue to use technologies and contents from their parent companies. If I may ask, what percentage of their vehicles is locally made as compared with Innoson? Why have these foreign companies over the years not transferred technologies to their host nations as was the case in China above? One of the biggest automobile manufacturing companies in India, Mahindra & Mahindra Group began by assembling CKD Willys brand Jeep imported from the United States of America in 1947. The Willys Jeep was used widely during the Second World War. Today Mahindra produces SUVs, Saloon cars, pick-ups, commercial vehicles and tractors. It owns several assembly plants all over India. It also has plants in China, the United Kingdom and 3 in the United States. Let us even move closer home. Dangote began by importing cement. From there he moved to bagging. But today he manufactures cement from the scratch i.e the limestone stage, exports and is building cement plants across Africa. I once saw a video where the Lotus Evora (a British super car) was manufactured from scratch. The powerful V10 engine was made by Japanese Toyota, while technical experts were hired from Ferrari and Porshe to put some professional touches. With time and resources I also believe Innoson will get there. The major factor militating against manufacturing in Nigeria remains the poor state of the power infrastructure. The Federal Government needs to urgently address this as many small to medium scale manufacturers (not just the big ones) will benefit immensely. The steel industry in Nigeria also needs to be revived. Innoson started from selling, to manufacturing tires, and then plastics before going into automobiles. If our steel industries have the capabilities of moulding engine blocks, we can easily attract manufacturers to begin production with the eventual advantage of a technology transfer. http://www.ndibe.org/2016/02/opinion-why-nigeria-must-support.html?m=0 You may not agree totally with this writeup but there is an element of fact therein.. |
Re: Innoson Making Fighter Jet Parts - CNN by pinkcita: 7:06pm On Apr 03, 2016 |
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