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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by somehow: 2:42pm On Sep 12
timay:


Committing a lot of fouls is just a trait of indiscipline from a team, and not because the team is physical.
Ndidi and someone like Wan bissaka are physical and makes good tackles Everytime including physical duels without committing fouls .


The same Ndidi that caused both fouls that resulted in the free kick goals we conceded from both Madagascar and Algeria? Tell me another tory.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by tbaba1234: 2:45pm On Sep 12
kris:
Why are we not talking about our upcoming games? We face Togo on the 20th of September, only 8 days away.

Look at the images below for more games.

CHAN
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by Barryseal: 2:46pm On Sep 12
Earthquake1:


How do you know he hasn't been paid for 6 months, isn't it in the same media that they said Rohr has not been paid by the NFF but it was a private company that is paying his wages

You expect me to believe what does not come from a credible source but an individual?
Let's hope he has been paid then. But till another report says otherwise.....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by timay(m): 2:48pm On Sep 12
TheSuperNerd:
Sometimes committing fouls is also tactical. Many big teams employ this to shut down their opponents and disrupt their attacking flow. Even Man City employs this tactic when found on the backfoot in a game. So committing fouls is not entirely rested on the altar of indiscipline. It is one of many tactics coaches use to limit or curtail.


On Ndidi, yes most of the times his tackles are clean but let me remind you that he was the one who gave away those fouls twice against Algeria towards the game's dying minutes and one of it resulted in that Mahrez free kick which beat Akpeyi in goal. Ndidi's careless tackle so close to our 18 yard box in such dangerous position in that one instance cost the team.




Comiting fouls sometimes is tactical, and I agree with that. And anyone can do so, whether the person is physical or not. So attributing a lot of fouls committed by a team as being physical is wrong. It just shows the team is undisciplined if it happens every time from that team.

Ndidi commits less fouls for someone that makes a lot of tackles. That shows his disciplined side of his game.

And mind you he can't get all his tackles right, as he will once in a while commit a bad one, which happened during the nation's cup. in that same nation's cup, he made a lot of tackles against Guinea that were neat. So his only tackle that went wrong was against Algeria and against Madagascar. Just two out of the numerous once he made throughout the tourney.

In summary, committing fouls by a team doesn't mean the team is physical, infact, it shows the opposite. It means that they can't out muscle their opponents. The only way for them to level the playing field is by committing fouls against a physically stronger opponent to limit them. We've seen European teams do that a lot against African sides in a way of tactics

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:51pm On Sep 12
TheSuperNerd:
Tactical Analysis: New energy can’t hide Super Eagles failings

Rohr retreats and pays the price

As has been a theme under the German coach, Nigeria did not go for the jugular and finish off their opponents, but instead made changes to protect a lead.


Nice article. I think this is the most important point and what has held us back from soaring.

It is time for Rohr to let go of the brakes and throttle the team with full force. We can be an explosive side if we are trained to play with bravery constantly.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by timay(m): 2:52pm On Sep 12
somehow:


The same Ndidi that caused both fouls that resulted in the free kick goals we conceded from both Madagascar and Algeria? Tell me another tory.

Out of how many?

We conceded a lot of free kicks in the tourney, it was just unfortunate that the ones that we defended badly was the ones caused by Ndidi. So no dey talk as if he was the cause.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by elyte89: 2:56pm On Sep 12
TheSuperNerd:
Sometimes committing fouls is also tactical. Many big teams employ this to shut down their opponents and disrupt their attacking flow. Even Man City employs this tactic when found on the backfoot in a game. So committing fouls is not entirely rested on the altar of indiscipline. It is one of many tactics coaches use to limit or curtail.


On Ndidi, yes most of the times his tackles are clean but let me remind you that he was the one who gave away those fouls twice against Algeria towards the game's dying minutes and one of it resulted in that Mahrez free kick which beat Akpeyi in goal. Ndidi's careless tackle so close to our 18 yard box in such dangerous position in that one instance cost the team.





Very good point...I like ur last paragraph,d likes of timay and earthquake1 won't c dis....if it were to b etebo dt made dis similar mistake,na war e go b for this thread..once u re in d favorite books on dis thread,no matter what u do,u re good to go eida its bad or not...ndidi cost us dt semi final game..u heard it from me first.. Yes he cost us dt game(an experience player of his caliber making mumu tackle like an npfl player,sorry o basco grin grin grin)...same guy cos d freekick resulting to Madagascar second goal, also deflected d goal(fine dis re human errors in football wc can happen to any player;but ndidi hasn't contribute much to eagles play same as he does in Leicester.. So I c no reason y he can't b benched; smiley
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by tbaba1234: 3:06pm On Sep 12
elyte89:



Very good point...I like ur last paragraph,d likes of timay and earthquake1 won't c dis....if it were to b etebo dt made dis similar mistake,na war e go b for this thread..once u re in d favorite books on dis thread,no matter what u do,u re good to go eida its bad or not...ndidi cost us dt semi final game..u heard it from me first.. Yes he cost us dt game(an experience player of his caliber making mumu tackle like an npfl player,sorry o basco grin grin grin)...same guy cos d freekick resulting to Madagascar second goal, also deflected d goal(fine dis re human errors in football wc can happen to any player;but ndidi hasn't contribute much to eagles play same as he does in Leicester.. So I c no reason y he can't b benched; smiley

You are correct about the Algerian goal but not about Madagascar. I can not blame him for that.

That said, Ndidi still had better defensive stats, tackles, interceptions and clearances than Etebo in the midfield in the WC and in the nations cup. That is why i say, he will protect the defence more.

In the WC, Etebo had an average of 5 dribbles per game. What are we doing with 5 dribbles when you are not Okocha. People hail him for that but what attack did those dribbles start??

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by somehow: 3:13pm On Sep 12
timay:


Out of how many?

We conceded a lot of free kicks in the tourney, it was just unfortunate that the ones that we defended badly was the ones caused by Ndidi. So no dey talk as if he was the cause.

Out of which how many? okay please show us the stats of just 2 games in the AFCON let's see who fouled more in the SE.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by tbaba1234: 3:13pm On Sep 12
Salisu replaces Imama.

Salisu is back
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by somehow: 3:18pm On Sep 12
For those who undermine Etebo's contribution in the SE, please go to whoscored for information


But here is just one
https://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=32853
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by somehow: 3:19pm On Sep 12
tbaba1234:
Salisu replaces Imama.

Salisu is back

To continue his bribe taking biz.

If he get sense, you should be so far away from controversy else Siasia will welcome him to his corner.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by kris(m): 3:25pm On Sep 12
TheSuperNerd:
That's the Homebased Super Eagles for the CHAN qualifiers.

The Main Super Eagles resume action in November with Afcon qualifiers games against Benin and Lesotho.



Thank you for your reply. We suppose care about our home based games too na. smiley
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by elyte89: 3:28pm On Sep 12
tbaba1234:


You are correct about the Algerian goal but not about Madagascar. I can not blame him for that.

That said, Ndidi still had better defensive stats, tackles, interceptions and clearances than Etebo in the midfield in the WC and in the nations cup. That is why i say, he will protect the defence more.

In the WC, Etebo had an average of 5 dribbles per game. What are we doing with 5 dribbles when you are not Okocha. People hail him for that but what attack did those dribbles start??


Same way I will ask you...what exactly has d blocks from ndidi led to in our attacks..has he ever orchestrated any attack b4 dt led to a goal..please mention one?

Cos going back to d afcon..d recent tournament played,ndidi had no direct impact in d goals scored even though its not his primary assignment... D first goal was assisted by aina,d second match against Guinea was assisted by simon scored by omeruo,same as d Cameroonian game,ndidi had no hand in it against d southies,same thing,against Algeria, it was etebos wide shot dt hit d Algerian defender led to our equalizer b4 ndidi cost us d match with his unprofessional rash tackle and to cap it all..he has zero goals for eagles,no b say na like oliseh dt bail us out when d chips re down

So abeg all dis defensive stat by ndidi is a norm,is it me dt would block, he was called upon to do it,same as etebo,so in a nutshell,both av contributed well to d teams growth. its not as if ndidis' contribution has led to all d success we av achieved so far

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by tbaba1234: 3:40pm On Sep 12
elyte89:



Same way I will ask you...what exactly has d blocks from ndidi led to in our attacks..has he ever orchestrated any attack b4 dt led to a goal..please mention one?

Cos going back to d afcon..d recent tournament played,ndidi had no direct impact in d goals scored even though its not his primary assignment... D first goal was assisted by aina,d second match against Guinea was assisted by simon scored by omeruo,same as d Cameroonian game,ndidi had no hand in it against d southies,same thing,against Algeria, it was etebos wide shot dt hit d Algerian defender led to our equalizer b4 ndidi cost us d match with his unprofessional rash tackle and to cap it all..he has zero goals for eagles,no b say na like oliseh dt bail us out when d chips re down

So abeg all dis defensive stat by ndidi is a norm,is it me dt would block, he was called upon to do it,same as etebo,so in a nutshell,both av contributed well to d teams growth. its not as if ndidis' contribution has led to all d success we av achieved so far

We all know what Ndidi is renowned for and that is protecting the defense. He does that very well. Etebo is originally a more offensive player so both players are different in that regard.

The absence of Ndidi made our defense very vulnerable against Ukraine. Ndidi will not score many goals but if he does his job, he is one of the best in the world.

Etebo is also valuable and hardworking but defensively Ndidi is better.

If i am to choose one to play DM, Ndidi is an easy choice.

1. He defends better
2. More positional discipline
3. Does not hold on to the ball for long

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by charlesemeka85(m): 4:04pm On Sep 12
Rip Elizabeth Rohr, mama Gernot. Laa na udo!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by chrisooblog: 4:07pm On Sep 12
thank you it's simple really
komekn:


Forgive my ignorance but l just haven't heard a whisper about this guy.

With all the accolades and attributes you have declared he has. Then no matter what league he is in he should be the stand out player for club and league.

Please do not make reference to youth glories they are TOTALLY IRRELEVANT.

Now can you give more detail club, league titles won, etc, etc

Please.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by tbaba1234: 4:08pm On Sep 12
charlesemeka85:
Rip Elizabeth Rohr, mama Gernot. Laa na udo!

Photocopy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by TheSuperNerd(m): 4:10pm On Sep 12
Lol... elyte calm down. Ndidi is one of my top favorites in the GWG but I just have to point out that instance to be balanced. But you ehn... lol... anyway, you wanting Ndidi to be sacrificed and not Etebo and another wanting Etebo sacrificed and not Ndidi in the SE first XI all boils down to which of them will play and interpret brilliantly the role they are assigned in a midfield three alongside Iwobi and Aribo... time will tell.


elyte89:



Very good point...I like ur last paragraph,d likes of timay and earthquake1 won't c dis....if it were to b etebo dt made dis similar mistake,na war e go b for this thread..once u re in d favorite books on dis thread,no matter what u do,u re good to go eida its bad or not...ndidi cost us dt semi final game..u heard it from me first.. Yes he cost us dt game(an experience player of his caliber making mumu tackle like an npfl player,sorry o basco grin grin grin)...same guy cos d freekick resulting to Madagascar second goal, also deflected d goal(fine dis re human errors in football wc can happen to any player;but ndidi hasn't contribute much to eagles play same as he does in Leicester.. So I c no reason y he can't b benched; smiley

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by TheSuperNerd(m): 4:13pm On Sep 12
Wow. The phenotypical genetics on display here strong ooo.... Chaaii shocked shocked No way will anyone take a look at her and not know she is Rohr's mom.

RIP Ma'am.


charlesemeka85:
Rip Elizabeth Rohr, mama Gernot. Laa na udo!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by TheSuperNerd(m): 4:19pm On Sep 12
You are right. And we do care. Truth is your post even reminded me because their upcoming qualifiers even skipped my mind.
But trust the likes of Chief Icon4s, Marvellous BascoVanVeli and the Woman of few words, Drlikita12 to keep us posted on the local front if any of Tbaba, myself, Joebie or Papa Aribo (Charlesemeka85) are not around... wink


kris:


Thank you for your reply. We suppose care about our home based games too na. smiley

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by elyte89: 4:22pm On Sep 12
TheSuperNerd:
Lol... elyte calm down. Ndidi is one of my top favorites in the GWG but I just have to point out that instance to be balanced. But you ehn... lol... anyway, you wanting Ndidi to be sacrificed and not Etebo and another wanting Etebo sacrificed and not Ndidi in the SE first XI all boils down to which of them will play and interpret brilliantly the role they are assigned in a midfield three alongside Iwobi and Aribo... time will tell.




Am not saying,its a must dey sacrifice ndidi...but d reality is we can do fine wout Him..he's not indispensable.. Period,his importance in Leicester is not d same as in eagles... My opinion wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by Earthquake1: 4:23pm On Sep 12
tbaba1234:
Salisu replaces Imama.

Salisu is back

At least it's better

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by Icon4s(m): 4:32pm On Sep 12
tbaba1234:


Meaning we can not get most of our best players. It will be tough.

Yes but same goes for likes of Mali, CIV, Ghana and Cameroon.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by Earthquake1: 4:34pm On Sep 12
somehow:


To continue his bribe taking biz.

If he get sense, you should be so far away from controversy else Siasia will welcome him to his corner.

He knows the searchlight is on him

Any weird decision from him will be questioned

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by Icon4s(m): 4:35pm On Sep 12
charlesemeka85:
Rip Elizabeth Rohr, mama Gernot. Laa na udo!

Rohr na Mama's boy o. See resemble shocked

RIP to her.

Our condolences to Ogbeni Gernot Rohr.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by Earthquake1: 4:39pm On Sep 12
Icon4s:


Yes but same goes for likes of Mali, CIV, Ghana and Cameroon.

It may go down to who has a better league
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by benji93: 4:46pm On Sep 12
Coach quake, obviously yes.
Earthquake1:


Wait, are you saying you have been proven right based on an opinion of a member of this thread?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by benji93: 4:53pm On Sep 12
Hey man, i sincerely hope your comment was a joke. Are you @GoodJoe's lackey or something. Lecture me on what? Careful ooo. You may want to present your own argument, i am not even sure you adequately understand it. I even tried to check the word "Power play" to be sure i am
not misunderstanding him. Power play does not in any way apply to football. When the discussion drifts towards Ice hockey, Cricket or Netball, perhaps i will "prostrate" before your lecturer. grin
komekn:


The pun is on you.

You lack understanding that's why you just don't get it.

Humble yourself and get TheGoodJoe to give you a lecture on physicality and power play.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by Earthquake1: 4:54pm On Sep 12
Lucas Piazon quits Chelsea after 7 years at the club

Cc Andrew444 this is how loans can kill a player's career
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by Clementoke(m): 4:59pm On Sep 12
tbaba1234:
Salisu replaces Imama.

Salisu is back

shocked shocked shocked
One year don reach naw naw?
grin grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by 2innocent(m): 5:17pm On Sep 12
Leon Balogun did not feature in the friendly against Ukraine after he angrily left camp because he discovered he was not in the starting lineup even after being one of the first players in camp. Although he took excuse b4 leaving camp n claimed he was injured.

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