Philosopher1979:



YOu are right. Hitler was once president of Germany and his rascist ideology was used as an instrumentality of government.
As popular as he was, he was not germany. The federal republic of Germany lived on after him.
Germans are not Hitlerites and after his demise, his ideology was done with and Germany redefined herself as a nation.
Nigeria has existed and will exist after Buhari and his activities cannot be used to define Nigeria.
As a sports man, you are representing the nation of Nigeria and in 100 years time if you win an Olympic Gold,
you will have won it for your Country and not your president (buhari or whosoever).
The nation of Nigeria belongs to the people of Nigeria and its citizens no matter how much our leaders
like to bully us and mismanage the country.

However, with the way things are going Nigeria may not last more than 15 to 25 years.
I forsee a massive civil war, insurgency or uprising which the Governmet wil not be able to contain
and which will lead to 2 things.
1 Either we have a regional Government where peace and justice reigns
2 We break up and disintegrate as a nation.

Our leaders cannot see beyong 2023. Even if they succeed in 2023 by 2035 Nigeria may be facing disintegration and civil war
and they will not even have a country to rule over.

Nigerian leaders are ignorant, short sighted and myopic and lack the vision for long term planning.
They are just brianless. They believe eronousely that because they are in power, they can get away with anything
but they lack the wisdom to know that very soon, they will not even have a country to rule and they
might lead Nigeria on the road to Mogadishu and Somalia.
If care is not taken Nigeria may produce a Charles Taylor who will cause a 5 year civil war that will lead to disintegration.

Nigerian leaders are underrating the capacity of the masses and the certain section of the country to protest and fight for their rights.
Our leaders will be shocked by the strange turn of events

I'd be lying if I say your comment on our Nation haven't crossed my mind a couple of times. I can envisage it, but to an extent I'm hoping things change fast before it gets to a head.

E no go funny at all.

JohnBullMySon:
If you didn't see any abusive or insultive behavior in the video. Then you didn't watch the video.

You think freedom of speech means that anyone can walk up to someone and start to deliberately provoke them.

I said he used F words but it’s still not assault because he is protesting against the government.

Remember, they are on official duty representing the government that sponsored them and not on personal duty hence can’t be seen as an assault.

forgiveness:


You are too used to Nigeria’s setup. He argued he is protesting.

This is a political protest not personal. That’s why it can never be viewed as assault.

Who is too used to Nigeria's setup?

You guys seem to have a misconception that outside the country, one is free to do anything. Very little things you get away with in Nigeria can quickly land you in trouble in most European countries. You can do anything you feel like in private but when it comes to the public space, the whole game changes. Even opening pornography in public can land you in trouble.

The girls are not politicians and have nothing to do with politics. Even with protests, you must inform the police 24 hours before any protest. Even if the rest of what he did was okay, the attack on the lady was clearly an abusive and insultive behavior. How does he intend to get away with that?

forgiveness:



I said he used F words but it’s still not assault because he is protesting against the government.

Remember, they are on official duty representing the government that sponsored them and not on personal duty hence can’t be seen as an assault.

How many times am I going to say here that NFF games have nothing to do with government. Nobody is representing government, can't you get that in your head?

forgiveness:



I said he used F words but it’s still not assault because he is protesting against the government.

Remember, they are on official duty representing the government that sponsored them and not on personal duty hence can’t be seen as an assault.

it is a verbal assault..

learn to accept when you're wrong and another person's point of view and stop trying to discredit the other person just because you believe your opinion must be superior to the other person.. this is one of the reason's for the b:uhari's bad governance and the ha:usa man misplaced outburst..

Nigerians and a lot of people spend most of their time trying their best to discredit other people that they don't achieve anything useful.. imagine having such behaviour and also been a ji:hadist, religious and ethnic bi:gotry combined, such person will never achieve anything..

if you ever become a governor you'll spend your time in office discrediting, blaming and castigating the previous administration and also the people you govern..

JohnBullMySon:
How many times am I going to say here that NFF games have nothing to do with government. Nobody is representing government, can't you get that in your head?

Who are they representing?

Why don’t you gather players and let them represent Johnbullmyson international?

forgiveness:


You think Southerners are dunce, abi?

Well, you don’t know anything except blabbering.

Do you think Benue, Taraba, Adamawa, Abuja, Kwara, Kogi etc will vote for a Northerner?

You don’t know anything.

U need to wake up because a northern won Kwara, kogi, benue state the last time in 2015

U need to wake up...because if u really understand nigeria politics u should know that is way difficult for a christian to be a governor in kwara state

I still insist the man didn't make any point he just wanted to gain cheap publicity which he has succeeded in doing for himself. As bad as things are we still have and operate a democratic process to get things moving in the right direction. If at the height of Abacha's reign when people were being killed and jailed, when media houses were being closed, when you couldn't publicly disagree with the government not to talk of abusing them brave men and women were still able to effect change then there's no reason you should feel hopeless now when we have so many means to change things for the better.

If the man truly cared about the situation back home he would protest at the Nigerian embassy, lobby his senator, his house of rep, his local government chairman join civil society groups to demand better governance not this cheap and hurtful bullying of young women who have committed no offense except play the game they love, rep their country and provide for their loved ones.

African Americans still have it tough in the US today but I don't see random Black Lives matters members walking up to Kevin Durant or any African American athlete for that matter to rant and rave about the state of the nation as they are the ones you elected to be president and governor.

TheGoodJoe:


Back to square one. That should be the debate. Better ways to address the situation. The man did it in a way he understands. Made his point. If people have BETTER ways, they can make it public and I believe people will gravitate towards it.

forgiveness:


Who are they representing?

Why don’t you gather players and let them represent Johnbullmyson international?

Your thinking will never cease to amaze me

The nigeria state has the sovereign power.... it is supreme and not the government.

For a state like N. Korea supremacy rest on the leader/government

U need to understand basic politics

The government works for the state same way the super falcons are representing and working for the nigeria state.....

codemaniacs:


it is a verbal assault..

learn to accept when you're wrong and another person's point of view and stop trying to discredit the other person just because you believe your opinion must be superior to the other person.. this is one of the reason's for the b:uhari's bad governance and the ha:usa man misplaced outburst..

Nigerians and a lot of people spend most of their time trying their best to discredit other people that they don't achieve anything useful.. imagine having such behaviour and also been a ji:hadist, religious and ethnic bi:gotry combined, such person will never achieve anything..

if you ever become a governor you'll spend your time in office discrediting, blaming and castigating the previous administration and also the people you govern..

Now let us look at it this way.

If that man verbally assault the ambassador of Nigeria in Austria, what will you call it?

Will he be jailed?

Ipob and omkri have protested at many embassies. What happened to them?

Look from a personal angle to a public and political angle.

codemaniacs:


it is a verbal assault..

learn to accept when you're wrong and another person's point of view and stop trying to discredit the other person just because you believe your opinion must be superior to the other person.. this is one of the reason's for the b:uhari's bad governance and the ha:usa man misplaced outburst..

Nigerians and a lot of people spend most of their time trying their best to discredit other people that they don't achieve anything useful.. imagine having such behaviour and also been a ji:hadist, religious and ethnic bi:gotry combined, such person will never achieve anything..

if you ever become a governor you'll spend your time in office discrediting, blaming and castigating the previous administration and also the people you govern..

Thanks for this words

Those ladies were and are not working for buhari's government but the nigeria state

The government comes and go but the state remains

QED! Don't use our dear teams for any political agenda. If you also sincerely feel watching or supporting the Falcons or Super Eagles somehow translates to backing a regime you are free to give this thread a wide berth.

JohnBullMySon:
Exactly. And those who are harbouring hatred against the super eagles or falcons for whatever reason shouldn't remain here. That's hypocrisy.

JohnBullMySon:
Who is too used to Nigeria's setup?

You guys seem to have a misconception that outside the country, one is free to do anything. Very little things you get away with in Nigeria can quickly land you in trouble in most European countries. You can do anything you feel like in private but when it comes to the public space, the whole game changes. Even opening pornography in public can land you in trouble.

The girls are not politicians and have nothing to do with politics. Even with protests, you must inform the police 24 hours before any protest. Even if the rest of what he did was okay, the attack on the lady was clearly an abusive and insultive behavior. How does he intend to get away with that?

Why was( omokri abi wetin demcalll am)not arrested when he verbally assault Buhari in England?

Differentiate between personal assault and public protest.

As long as they are representing Nigeria as at the time of the so called assault, it might be viewed as protest.

They entered Austria with the intention to represent Nigeria and not for their personal interests.

forgiveness:


Now let us look at it this way.

If that man verbally assault the ambassador of Nigeria in Austria, what will you call it?

Will he be jailed?

Ipob and omkri have protested at many embassies. Why happened to them?

Look from a personal angle to a public and political angle.

It will be called slander when the ambassador decides to press charges. Yes he will be jailed. Threat to Life can also be used against him.

Ipob and omokiri inform police before they protest in any country and the protests are just a group of people carrying placards and not destroying public property so they can't be arrested or deported but I can assure you their pictures and data are in database somewhere in that country.

forgiveness:


My man, Yaradua rode on that to win election. He is a Tuareg.

Lol...says a close confident of the Yar'Adua's family

U need to always back up claims of this kind with facts or relevant literatures other wise it is merely heresay or passersby opinion

Luthben:


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Thanks boss

codemaniacs:


It will be called slander when the ambassador decides to press charges. Yes he will be jailed. Threat to Life can also be used against him.

Ipob and omokiri inform police before they protest in any country and the protests are just a group of people carrying placards and not destroying public property so they can't be arrested or deported but I can assure you their pictures and data are in database somewhere in that country.

cc: forgiveness humble self and admit he wrote true and facfs as regard this matter

They are representing Nigeria which comprises not just the presidency but all 36 states and 774 local governments. They are not doing anything in the name of Buhari and APC. What the man in the video was ranting about is the policy of the buhari government not Nigeria as a whole period.

forgiveness:


Who are they representing?

Why don’t you gather players and let them represent Johnbullmyson international?

codemaniacs:


It will be called slander when the ambassador decides to press charges. Yes he will be jailed. Threat to Life can also be used against him.

Ipob and omokiri inform police before they protest in any country and the protests are just a group of people carrying placards and not destroying public property so they can't be arrested or deported but I can assure you their pictures and data are in database somewhere in that country.

When do one needs to inform or get police approval to protest?

Countries laws varies. Can you please confirm if that is the case in Austria? Where it will be termed slander?

He didn’t damage anything. He only told them not to represent Nigeria.

chrisooblog:
They are representing Nigeria which comprises not just the presidency but all 36 states and 774 local governments. They are not doing anything in the name of Buhari and APC. What the man in the video was ranting about is the policy of the buhari government not Nigeria as a whole period.

Did you see in my post stating they are representing Buhari?

humility33:


cc: forgiveness humble self and admit he wrote true and facfs as regard this matter

He may be right or wrong depending on the laws of that particular country.

Tessyy1701:

Thanks boss

My pleasure Great Man

For the first few seconds landing on this page I thought i opened the wrong thread.

Keep politics out of football guys, there is a busy transfermarket out there to talk about.

It's Onyedika.

Hausa:
I'm sorry, is it Onyedika?
I'm seeing Nwadike.

andrew444:
Everton are reportedly interested in signing 22-year-old Nigerian winger Samuel Chukwueze from La Liga club Villarreal this summer.


http://www.thehardtackle.com/news/2021/07/20/transfer-news-everton-keen-on-signing-samuel-chukwueze/

Great news!
Hope they follow through

Then why do you keep insisting the players can be the focus of a protester because according to you they represent government?

forgiveness:


Did you see in my post stating they are representing Buhari?

humility33:

Lol...says a close confident of the Yar'Adua's family

U need to always back up claims of this kind with facts or relevant literatures other wise it is merely heresay or passersby opinion

I don’t tell you.

hmm would be a step down for me plus I don't know how well a move to the EPL would suit his playing style.

andrew444:
Everton are reportedly interested in signing 22-year-old Nigerian winger Samuel Chukwueze from La Liga club Villarreal this summer.


http://www.thehardtackle.com/news/2021/07/20/transfer-news-everton-keen-on-signing-samuel-chukwueze/

chrisooblog:
Then why do you keep insisting the players can be the focus of a protester because according to you they represent government?

Honestly, most of you are not informed.

Can you separate Falcons from Nigeria under whose wing they got their passports and visa?

humility33:


Your thinking will never cease to amaze me

The nigeria state has the sovereign power.... it is supreme and not the government.

For a state like N. Korea supremacy rest on the leader/government

U need to understand basic politics

The government works for the state same way the super falcons are representing and working for the nigeria state.....

Which Nigeria state has the sovereignty power?

They are representing Nigeria. Finito

You have been educated that government is under the Nigerian state same as sport national teams.

Governments change it can be democracy tomorrow, dictatorship the next or monarchy the following week but the state always remains. It's the Nigerian state represented by the Nigerian people that give government legitimacy.

You need to come out of this old military mind set that your loyalty is to however happens to be president or governor at any given time. Your loyalty is to the Nigerian people who have given authority to the president to execute the constitution on their behalf.

forgiveness:


Honestly, most of you are not informed.

Can you separate Falcons from Nigeria under whose wing they got their passports and visa?