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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 6:48am On Nov 15, 2017
MetalJigsaw:
Alot of people in the UK are making comments about our game vs Argentina yestarday.
See on of them:
"Exciting young Nigerian team which has
continue to improve. This team will do great at the world cup, they played without Victor Moses and Orion Ighalo that are vital to them yet convincingly defeated an Argentine team that is only without Messi. The Nigerian goalkeeper in the 1st half was a joke though. It is better to play in this team than in the English team where mediocrity is being celebrated and psychological fragility is down to their core. Imagine all the hype around drawing Germany and Brazil at home."

Please link to their comments!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:04am On Nov 15, 2017
realpoacher:

Please link to their comments!
www.dailymail.co.uk
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:09am On Nov 15, 2017
shogz89:
link to the comment.
www.dailymail.co.uk
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:11am On Nov 15, 2017
Kog45:
Oh Akpeyi!Ezenwa and Akpeyi no go area for me,with their recent performance i can't have them in my team.

My pick Uzoho, Alampasu, Ajiboye.
I was just being sarcastic bro

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 7:21am On Nov 15, 2017
For those looking for the English Commentary, here is the full match.

First Half:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNUSaH_hEq0

Second Half:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxFiETVkVyQ

Download if you can. It may soon be off Youtube.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BlackAlbino6(m): 7:27am On Nov 15, 2017
AIG07:
I am very sure some people must have mocked us. Sticking to the team even after we failed to qualify for AFCON '17 and hoping against all hopes. We have finally scaled through to Russiah.

Shouts out to everyone who have supported this team from regular commenters to ghost readers. You are the real deal and you've made the journey worthwhile.

Special shout out to the op who created this thread in person of Terzurum5-I hope you are glad and happy over there, to the news crew and updates specialist(Sirs Okpyendega, Joebie, Tbaba1234 who is our camera man, forgiveness, blackalbino6 etc) Kudos to you too...

Finally, Wishing the SEs greater success in the future.

God bless the Super Eagles of Nigeria!
God bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria!

#SoarEagles and spread your wings over East Europe.
Soar Eagles!
Soar higher in Russia!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by pyrex23(m): 7:38am On Nov 15, 2017
Goke7:

Aina can be tried for another position but not left back pls, he was not convincing against Algeria either so elderson is still ahead of him, let's admit that pls. If he can contend for the right back which I doubt, no problem but for left back abeg just like we don't want akpeyi near the goal post, I don't want aina near the left back too. Sometimes we over hype these players and they fall hand. We had no business goin down 2-nil but for aina 's sloppiness

how i wish echejile played lwb 2day den u would be mute...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 7:52am On Nov 15, 2017
Curtisaxel27:
I am happy for the A-rated friendly.

Mediocres/ backdoor guys a.k.a egunje candidates are being exposed.

Akpeyi has no business with the GWG shirt.

Aina is overrated.

Ebuehi is pure class.

Iheanacho is our only FK taker.

Mikel is holds the keys to our midfield.

Musa's best days are behind him.


And Idowu is a gem.....not many players score with thier first touch in thier first game.




O parry and Finito.

I dont think you are being fair.

Playing Ola Aina on the left when he is a natural rightback is injustice. Just because he was asked to cover the left back and he didnt perform well doesnt make him over rated. You have to put things into perspective. I have watched the dude severally and I can tell you he is a baller! For yesterday's game against a top side as Argentina, playin a makeshift left back was bound to haunt us. The fault for me lies with the coaching crew who left a natural left back on the bench.

If you are naturally right handed but have a fair use of your left hand in a game of tennis. How productive will you be if you are asked to use ur left all thru a game..? Exactly my point!

In yesterdays game, he didnt have to play at all. And if he did, he should have been tried on the right as a sub for Shehu. Moral of the whole story? Play the right people in the right positions.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:54am On Nov 15, 2017
ykalhaji:


Chief calm down. The main culprit in our defence and reason for the consistent attack on our left flank in the first half was Balogun. They discovered he was very slow and cannot really pass accurately making him more prone to lose the ball easily, so they kept hammering his side, which by the way was where Aina operated from. Not saying Aina was exceptional today, I will give him a 4, but he isn't as bad as you are making him to be. He just did not have an exceptional game today, actually except for Mikel, Ogu, Ndidi and Iheanacho, I will say everyone else was subpar in the first half. Leon and Akpeyi (were 3 and 0 respectively)
Thank you for knowing the game,in 3-5-2 formation the 3 defenders must shield the right, central and left side of the defence which i thumb up Ekong for doing a yeoman job.

Shehu and Awaziem were find more wanting but Ekong raised to the occasion,coming to their rescue,the Argentines had more crosses at the right side than left side but Balogun had below performance and it really showed to the build up of Argentine goal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 7:56am On Nov 15, 2017
somehow:
It will reflect on our November ranking to be released in December.

We're likely to jump to like 3rd in Africa and maybe 35th in the world. We haven't lost in about 7 games now.

Most likely


Yeah it would be a boost but don't expect too much for two reasons:

1. The Algeria draw: we will lose ranking points from that game.

2. The Argentine game is a friendly and so does not carry much weight as the WC qualifiers.

By and large I hope it will be a case of one step backwards but 2 or 3 steps forward.

I will do the calculation tomorrow and post the result here.

With a draw you still get points. I have been able to get the formula from fifa website.

P = M x I x T x C

For November

Match 1: Algeria vs Nigeria
Scores = 1 - 1
Strength of confrendation = 0.86 - 0.86
Strength of opposition = 159(200-41) - 133(200-67)
Therefore M = 1 - 1
I = 2.5
T = 159(Algeria) - 133(Nigeria)
C = 0.86


Nigeria P = M x I x T x C = 1 x 2.5 x 159 x 0.86
= 286

Match 2: Argentina vs Nigeria
Scores: 2 - 4
M = 0 - 3
I = 1 (friendly)
T = 159 (Argentina) - 196( Nigeria)
C ={ 0.98 (South America) + 0.86(Africa)} /2
= 0.92
Nigeria P = M x I x T x C = 3 x 1 x 196 x 0.92 = 541

Total points for the month of November =
286 + 541 = 827 x 0.4(% for number of matches)
= 331

Current Nigeria fifa rankings points = 721(41st)

721 + 331 = 1052

Therefore, Nigeria's November points should be 1052. Barring any plus or minus, we should be around 25 grin in world rankings by December.

Thank you Argentina cheesy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:58am On Nov 15, 2017
as u dey talk like Ghanian na.. u know say una be d champs.. I respect you!

Neimar:


wafu gini
wetin concern me nd wafu?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by pyrex23(m): 8:04am On Nov 15, 2017
isan:
After loftus cheek performance against Germany one of the English pundit said he is better than fabregas
i would agree to an extent..
But fabregas has more vision/creativity dan him..
But cheek is really good especially at dribbling.. Following him since his loan from chelasea to crystal palace
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gamaliel9: 8:07am On Nov 15, 2017
Winter from the land of the Norsemen is coming......... Beware of the Vikings
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:14am On Nov 15, 2017
Kog45:
Oh Akpeyi!Ezenwa and Akpeyi no go area for me,with their recent performance i can't have them in my team.

My pick Uzoho, Alampasu, Ajiboye.

Very simple.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by klexycole(m): 8:28am On Nov 15, 2017
mikron:
i coudnt have summarized it any better, u have said it all, pally our boys dey ball. they gave the argies too much of respect in the 1st half, and i remember telling my friend that these argentines are very beatable na, all we need is stop respecting them and come out to play and just as if gernot rohr heard me in the 2nd half he did the needed changes, changed the formation a bit and the result is there for us to see. excellent game. iwobi and mikel, not forgetting ebuehi, uzoho, idowu, nacho dey ball, in fact all of them try. the land is truly green my brother grin grin grin

Naso my brother. grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Neimar: 8:28am On Nov 15, 2017
Joebie:
as u dey talk like Ghanian na.. u know say una be d champs.. I respect you!


I nr be ghanian
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:29am On Nov 15, 2017
Biggest lesson is the talk of a player must play long with teammates before he deserves a nod. Ebuehi, Idowu and Uzoho played like they were regulars in the side.

There is need for blending but first, you need the best in every role before talking of blending. A good example was when Ebuehi overlapped but Mikel did not notice Ebuehi approaching and chose to cross the ball. Mikel later apologized to Ebuehi and with time, that mistake will not happen because Mikel Obi will have a better understanding of Ebuehi.

That is how it should be.

Quality before blending. Not playing a weaker player because he blended with the team. A better quality player without experience is better than a weak player with experience.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 8:38am On Nov 15, 2017
isan:
After loftus cheek performance against Germany one of the English pundit said he is better than fabregas

Same thing they said with Wilshere that he's better than Iniesta and Xavi alas where's he today

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 8:42am On Nov 15, 2017
MetalJigsaw:
Alot of people in the UK are making comments about our game vs Argentina yestarday.
See on of them:
"Exciting young Nigerian team which has
continue to improve. This team will do great at the world cup, they played without Victor Moses and Orion Ighalo that are vital to them yet convincingly defeated an Argentine team that is only without Messi. The Nigerian goalkeeper in the 1st half was a joke though. It is better to play in this team than in the English team where mediocrity is being celebrated and psychological fragility is down to their core. Imagine all the hype around drawing Germany and Brazil at home."

Link to that site plz

BTW, u ain't the jigsaw of old kickoff, are you?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:49am On Nov 15, 2017
gamaliel9:

Winter from the land of the Norsemen is coming......... Beware of the Vikings
Invoking Odin and Thor - they are coming
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 8:53am On Nov 15, 2017
kennysville:


I dont think you are being fair.

Playing Ola Aina on the left when he is a natural rightback is injustice. Just because he was asked to cover the left back and he didnt perform well doesnt make him over rated. You have to put things into perspective. I have watched the dude severally and I can tell you he is a baller! For yesterday's game against a top side as Argentina, playin a makeshift left back was bound to haunt us. The fault for me lies with the coaching crew who left a natural left back on the bench.

If you are naturally right handed but have a fair use of your left hand in a game of tennis. How productive will you be if you are asked to use ur left all thru a game..? Exactly my point!

In yesterdays game, he didnt have to play at all. And if he did, he should have been tried on the right as a sub for Shehu. Moral of the whole story? Play the right people in the right positions.



you guys should stop being sentimental, this thread was awashed with how aina is a better player than elderson, now he has failed to live up to the billing, you are now saying he is better at the right back, abeg make we talk true, the guy fall hand
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:54am On Nov 15, 2017
Kog45:
My guy I know you know football and this is the time to tell ourselves the truth.

The rising of Enyeama was like a magic he came in and stole the show just one cap to WC meaning he was giving the opportunity at the right time.

My university coach was the goalkeeper trainer for Eagles when Enyeama was discovered.My varsity coach said he took him just 20 mins to tell Onigbinde that this guy is WC bound.

He said as at that time Enyeama was better than Shorunmu but they are not ready to take the risk but the risk was taken when Shorunmu fumbled against Sweden.My varsity coach went to Onigbinde that Enyeama must be in goal against England.

Let me give you brief history of Nigeria goalkeepers,prior to 1980 nations cup, Emmanuel Okala was the first choice but when Father Tiko came and saw that Okala has passed his prime,he took a decision and threw in Best Ogedegbe as number 1.a very good decision.

At afcon 84 we have experience Patrick Okala the younger brother of Emma but Onigbinde stick with young Peter Rufai though Rufai missed the Afcon final due to injury and we dearly paid for it cos Patrick was in goal.

Let me jump it and this one w be so confusing cos a lot w not agreed with me but it's a fact.Peter Rufai at US 94 has passed his prime but find his way into the team due to fans pressure at the expense of in form Deportivo LA coruna Wilfred Agbonavbare who kept most of Nigeria qualifications matches in a spectacular way,this guy was dropped to the bench for Dodo Mayana.At Afcon 94 anybody that watched semi final and final can testify,Rufai was exposed but Westerhoff still stick with Rufai.

So sometime we don't need experience keeper to do it but the best to be in goal.

Am one of the apostle of calling Enyeama back but watching Uzoho against Girona changed my mind,he has what it takes to be number 1,the height is there, reflex, confidence what else again,see him against Argentina tells a lot, if experience cannot carry Ezenwa and Akpeyi then to hell with experience.

Enyeama is out for 6months and that should tell you a lot,some keeper w come back better but some we struggle to form,so what are the assurance that we w see better Enyeama.

Apart from football reason,you made a valid point,w the recalling of Enyeama not destroy the high and lovable spirit in camp.
Alampasu and Ajiboye have not been tested. And we'd play next in March 2018. The schedule is tight. Uzoho needs more exposure. Anyway I still feel Enyeama is needed. We shouldn't go with three rookie goalkeepers. It's not an argument for experience though. Enyeama would also have to prove himself to merit a place.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 8:54am On Nov 15, 2017
pyrex23:

how i wish echejile played lwb 2day den u would be mute...

guy admit, aina is not better than elderson at lwb. stop the sentiments
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:00am On Nov 15, 2017
Goke7:


you guys should stop being sentimental, this thread was awashed with how aina is a better player than elderson, now he has failed to live up to the billing, you are now saying he is better at the right back, abeg make we talk true, the guy fall hand
Nooo ooo. The gauge you are using to judge Aina here is not the same as when he was praised. Then it was Echiejile's LB play that was compared to Aina's LB play. But factor in the fact that he played as a wingback not LB yesterday. he's not a natural LB. Fine he could still play as an LB but it's obvious he cannot play as a LWB. You are comparing him as a LWB to Echiejile LB play. False equivalents.

How did our excellent RB Shehu fare as a RWB?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 9:02am On Nov 15, 2017
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Kog45:
Pls go and watch the match again and be critical in your view and you w understand who to blame for the second goal

I remember the first goal was caused by Akpeyi and the second goal look confusing on who to blame but a good expert w blame Balogun,his pace failed him and in official rating Balogun was blamed for second goal

Aina so far in Eagles is not worst as you want us to believe cos you keep on hammering him and funny enough you put him in the same league on performance with Akpeyi.

Haba against Zambia good comeo appearance, against Algeria a little bit average, against Argentina not too good for him just like other players in the 1st half,hope you have read Mikel"s statement.

If I want to base it on first half performance, players like Iwobi,Ogu,Awaziem should not have started second half,pls go and watch the match again and be objective.

Truly Aina performance was not satisfactory but comparing the poor boy with Akpeyi performance get as ebi,not that worst.

Pls Sir, don't let your love for aina make you blame someone else for his own personal error, the fact that he was subbed says it all. He was poor against both algeria and argentina period where he had more game time than the Zambian match Let's say it the way it is!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:03am On Nov 15, 2017
realpoacher:


Most likely



With a draw you still get points. I have been able to get the formula from fifa website.

P = M x I x T x C

For November

Match 1: Algeria vs Nigeria
Scores = 1 - 1
Strength of confrendation = 0.86 - 0.86
Strength of opposition = 159(200-41) - 133(200-67)
Therefore M = 1 - 1
I = 2.5
T = 159(Algeria) - 133(Nigeria)
C = 0.86


Nigeria P = M x I x T x C = 1 x 2.5 x 159 x 0.86
= 286

Match 2: Argentina vs Nigeria
Scores: 2 - 4
M = 0 - 3
I = 1 (friendly)
T = 159 (Argentina) - 196( Nigeria)
C ={ 0.98 (South America) + 0.86(Africa)} /2
= 0.92
Nigeria P = M x I x T x C = 3 x 1 x 196 x 0.92 = 541

Total points for the month of November =
286 + 541 = 827 x 0.4(% for number of matches)
= 331

Current Nigeria fifa rankings points = 721(41st)

721 + 331 = 1052

Therefore, Nigeria's November points should be 1052. Barring any plus or minus, we should be around 25 grin in world rankings by December.

Thank you Argentina cheesy

grin If you calculate FIFA ranking arithmetically you would not get it.


SHOCKER! Nigeria to drop points despite beating Argentina.

The Algeria draw did the damage angry

The total ranking points for October stood at 721 while the projected November points would be 671.

Nigeria will fall places as even Teams like Cameroon and Australia will over take us.

This is shocking but that is the calculation.

One of the most controversial FIFA rankings is about to be released.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 9:04am On Nov 15, 2017
MetalJigsaw:
www.dailymail.co.uk

No story about Nigeria match there.

Please post a direct link to their comments

Thanks
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 9:04am On Nov 15, 2017
Mujtahida:

Nooo ooo. The gauge you are using to judge Aina here is not the same as when he was praised. Then it was Echiejile's LB play that was compared to Aina's LB play. But yesterday factor in the fact that he played as a wingback not LB. he's not a natural LB. Fine he could still play as an LB but it's obvious he cannot play as a LWB. You are comparing him as a LWB to Echiejile LB play. False equivalents.

How did our excellent RB Shehu fare a RWB?

Na grammar you dey talk, aina was poor, am not convinced! moreover it's not fair we are all giving akpeyi the sticks and making excuses for aina.

We all know how we always come heavily on the good joe on this thread when he makes excuses for iheanacho. i will never be part of you guys making excuses for aina but coming heavily on akpeyi, not fair bruv

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by pyrex23(m): 9:14am On Nov 15, 2017
Goke7:

guy admit, aina is not better than aina at lwb. stop the sentiments
aina not better dan aina?? Anways elderson would have performed worse at left wing back role.. Aina still ahead of him

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 9:14am On Nov 15, 2017
Icon4s:


grin If you calculate FIFA ranking arithmetically you would not get it.


SHOCKER! Nigeria to drop points despite beating Argentina.

The Algeria draw did the damage angry

The total ranking points for October stood at 721 while the projected November points would be 671.

Nigeria will fall places as even Teams like Cameroon and Australia will over take us.

This is shocking but that is the calculation.

One of the most controversial FIFA rankings is about to be released.

Big fat lie! You don't lose points for a draw!... Quote me anywhere.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:15am On Nov 15, 2017
Goke7:


Na grammar you dey talk, aina was poor, am not convinced! moreover it's not fair we are all giving akpeyi the sticks and making excuses for aina.

We all know how we always come heavily on the good joe on this thread when he makes excuses for iheanacho. i will never be part of you guys making excuses for aina but coming heavily on akpeyi, not fair bruv
Akpeyi had no reason to be poor moreover he's been tested severally. Shehu too was poor, Balogun too. Until Aina is played as a RB, I won't write him off. In fact apart from Akpeyi I am not going to write off any player. Not at all. Look at Ogu, they say he's slow, they say Iheanacho doesn't haven't good pace. but I saw yesterday that he's not.

Bryan Idowu is a natural LB and Ebuehi too and you saw how they flourished. Rohr would learn a lesson yesterday. Play the players in their natural positions. Versatility is good but those playing in their natural positions should be more in number. It would provide balance for the team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 9:17am On Nov 15, 2017
pyrex23:

aina not better dan aina??
Anways elderson would have performed worse at left wing back role..
Aina still ahead of him

sorry for my errors, but did aina play as wing back against Algeria? hell No and he was still poor.

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