Danielnino00:
Its a few days to the end of the year...


Who is your Nigeria player of the year??




CC: Forgiveness, TheGoodJoe,Safarigirl,Komekn,Icon79, icon4s, Mujthida,Kog45,Goldfish,soetanoreoluwa,Mikeal2,elyte89, and other distinguished members of the thread



PS: You can add another player that's not on this list

Napoleon55:

1.Most Controversial Poster
- FORGIVENESS
2. Most Interactive Poster
- JOEBIE
3. Most outstanding poster- ICON4S,THEGOODJOE,THESUPERNERD
4. the overall best poster- ICONS,THEGOODJOE
5. Most Respectful Poster
- ICON4s/KOG45
6. Most Consistent Poster
- FORGIVENESS
7. Most Positive Poster
- THEGOODJOE
8. Most Critical Poster
-KOMEKN
9. the most dramatical poster- FORGIVENESS,SAFARIGIR

10- the most influencial poster-ICON4S,TGEGOIDJOE,SAFARIGIRL
11. People's Favourite
- THEGOODJOE.
12. Best Friends
-FORGIVESS & KOMKN
13. Top Dramatic Topics
- IHEANACHO,INVITATION OF SOME PLAYERS like Martins and co.,FOREIGH BORN VS HOME,



my XI or top 10 is:
1-ICON4S
2-THEGOODJOE
3-GOLDFISH
4-SAFARIGIRL
5- AIGO7
6-THABA
7-THESUPEENERD
8- MUJTAHIDI
9- KOG45
10- FORGIVENESS
11-KOMEKN

subs:
BOSCOVANVELI,
TERZEERUMS,
ICON97(opari master),
NAPOLEON55

MetalJigsaw:
So what's up for the award winners

elunico:


The recognition that comes with it.

krattoss:
wengers confidence and trust on iwobi knows no bound. .

I hope it pays off

MetalJigsaw:
Judging by your words, the guy doesn't worth it. You might be right though.

Mujtahida:

My dear forumites I pray you all to read this expose I want to do: Well, forgiveness you just put out the fact that Eguavoen was playing in Belgium. That's deceptive and you know it. Let's take a deeper look at the condition of Fc kortrijk from 1990-1994 that Eguavoen was there: 1990/91 season they were fourth from the bottom of 18 teams in division one. 91/92 season they were 17 on the 18 team table and were relegated. 93/94 season they were still in relegation. He played two seasons in division one in a low ranking team and another two seasons in relegation. But through your romance filled eyes this is still better for you than famagusta that is topping the league in Cyprus and Ebuehi who is just two seasons in the Eredivise.


When I saw Iroha's wretched club stats I just shook my head at your deception or ignorance. Here are the facts people: Iroha was at Vitesse from 1992-1996.he played just 21 times for a period of 4 years. Verdict: correct benchwarmer. Meanwhile he had been playing professional football for seven years before this time. Yet he is one of our best LB till date. This shows that what matters most for us is what a player does in the Gwg



Oliseh was at RFC liege from 1990-1994, he played 75 matches and scored three goals. Now divide the number of weeks in the four years with 75.that would give you an indication of his regularity(in fact he was first playing for their u -19 side). As for his goals just 3. Yet you are comparing him with Ndidi who played for two years at Genk with 64 appearances and four goals and is barely a year at Leicester with 33 appearances and two goals (all Oliseh's facts are settled but Ndidi's are still unfolding but one can see who already has better stats. He didn't feature in those UEFA matches for RFC Liege.



Uche played for 9 years for Fernerbahce with 191 appearances and 19 goals. Quite solid.



1993-1995 at Anderlecht 14 matches no goals
From his Wikipedia page: After three seasons he was bought by giants R.S.C. Anderlecht, who won the league twice during his stay. Nwanu played very few matches; he retired after an unsuccessful spell in RKC Waalwijk..
Truly no verdict.



I wanted to run away from this our first champions league winner Finidi but I still checked:1993-96, 85 appearances 18 goals for Ajax. VicMo has been more of a journeyman. Hard to put his stats together for club. In any case he doesn't play offensively for Chelsea. But when I checked their stats for the Super Eagles I was shocked: Finidi played for the Eagles from 91-2002(11 years) played 62 times and scored 6 times. VicMo has 28 appearances with 10 goals from 2012 till date. I just weak



Amokachi is an outstanding average

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player better than Ighalo and Nwakaeme. Seriously and I love him



We all love Rashidi. He is great. But by your standard and that of komekn, Rashidi who played just one season of first division football in Portugal will not smell Super Eagles team. Your adulation of him smacks of hypocrisy. It is we who insist that clubs should not be used to screen out good players whose adulation of him is authentic. You opposed Nwakali just because of his club. You would have jettisoned Rashidi for Ekoku since Ekoku was in a more fancy club.



Let us look at Siasia you have used to bullet Iheanacho. Siasia was at Lokeren for six years from 1987-1993. Played 151 times and scored 31 times. Now let's look at him at Nantes. He was there from 1993-1995. He played 44 times and scored 4 goals. Iheanacho played 46 times at City and scored 12 goals. So who has better stats? Moreover note that Siasia had been playing professional football for ten years as at the time of his stint with Nantes while Iheanacho is just two years in the game
In the gwg Siasia played from 1984-1999 that is 13 years, appeared 51 times with 16 goals. Iheanacho has played from 2015 for the Gwg 13 times with 8 goals and he has not done even half of Siasia's time in the team.
Verdict: out of respect for Siasia let me keep quiet.


I checked Amunike's stats and that of Musa. Amunike's stats is just a bit better. Amunike won APOTY at zamalek playing 71 times and scoring 26 goals from 91-94. Musa did not win APOTY yet look at his stats for CSKA Moscow:2012–16 125 appearances, 42 goals. This should tell us how low the level of football in Africa was as at 1993.

Bottom line is that the 94 set were not better both for club and country more than this set as such(yes they won an Afcon but remember 2013 we won Afcon) . We have not even talked about those in the 94 set who were not in the first 11 ooo. But in the end such comparisons are deceptive because one set is done and dusted. Another is still unfolding.

However we can all see that it's through the soft eyes of a blind lover that forgiveness and komekn looks at the 94 set. The reality shows a completely different picture when compared to this current set. What I think is that football has improved so much from that time(personally I still prefer the 90's football but then I recognise that football has improved) and that is why the 94 set looks so glorious (plus they won Afcon) and this set looks ordinary in the eyes of some.

Cc
For record sakes let me tag you guys.
Goodjoe, icon4s, Safarigirl, Joebie, Kog45, Goldfish80, daveP, kennysville, realpoacher, tbaba1234, joseph1013, AIG07

Mujtahida:

Amokachi was not tearing anything in Belgium. He joined super eagles while he was in ranchers bees of kaduna. He later went to Belgium. Siasia was warming the bench in Belgium. Kog45 has given a list of the club's the golden generation were playing in and they were all average players playing for average teams. Some were not even playing. They were permanent bench warmers. When i pointed it out to you the last time you said now is not 94 but here you are hyping amokachi. You guys hammering on the fact that our team is average don't understand what a team is all about. Its the same mentality that gets Nigerians hooked to certificates. We need a team with a winning mentality. That's all that matters. The story of the rabbit (stellar player/team) and the tortoise (average player/team) comes to mind.

MetalJigsaw:
That equals to nothing. bro

Mujtahida:
We all love Rashidi. He is great. But by your standard and that of komekn, Rashidi who played just one season of first division football in Portugal will not smell Super Eagles team. Your adulation of him smacks of hypocrisy. It is we who insist that clubs should not be used to screen out good players whose adulation of him is authentic. You opposed Nwakali just because of his club. You would have jettisoned Rashidi for Ekoku since Ekoku was in a more fancy club.

Napoleon55:

1.Most Controversial Poster
- FORGIVENESS
2. Most Interactive Poster
- JOEBIE
3. Most outstanding poster- ICON4S,THEGOODJOE,THESUPERNERD
4. the overall best poster- ICONS,THEGOODJOE
5. Most Respectful Poster
- ICON4s/KOG45
6. Most Consistent Poster
- FORGIVENESS
7. Most Positive Poster
- THEGOODJOE
8. Most Critical Poster
-KOMEKN
9. the most dramatical poster- FORGIVENESS,SAFARIGIR

10- the most influencial poster-ICON4S,TGEGOIDJOE,SAFARIGIRL
11. People's Favourite
- THEGOODJOE.
12. Best Friends
-FORGIVESS & KOMKN
13. Top Dramatic Topics
- IHEANACHO,INVITATION OF SOME PLAYERS like Martins and co.,FOREIGH BORN VS HOME,



my XI or top 10 is:
1-ICON4S
2-THEGOODJOE
3-GOLDFISH
4-SAFARIGIRL
5- AIGO7
6-THABA
7-THESUPEENERD
8- MUJTAHIDI
9- KOG45
10- FORGIVENESS
11-KOMEKN

subs:
BOSCOVANVELI,
TERZEERUMS,
ICON97(opari master),
NAPOLEON55

zicky:
CATEGORIES
1. Most Controversial Poster
Sir Forgiveness

2. Most Interactive Poster
TheGoodjoe

3. Most Intelligent Poster
Sir Joebie, icon4, Sir kog45

4. Most Resourceful Poster
Sir Joebie

5. Most Respectful Poster
Sir Kog45

6. Most Consistent Poster

7. Most Positive Poster
jobie

8. Best Sense of Humor
Sir elyte

9. Most Critical Poster
mickeal2

10. Nicest Poster

11. Most Influential Poster
Sir Icon4s

12. Most Pro-Foreign Born Poster
Forgiveness and komken(english born)

13. Most Pro-Naija League Poster
Goldenfish80

14. People's Favourite
safarigirl

15. Most Sentimental
Safarigirl

19. Best Friends
supernerd and safarigirl(then)

20. Most Outstanding Poster
thegoodjoe

21. Overall Best Poster
The goodjoe

22. Top Dramatic Topics nacho,

elunico:
1. Most Controversial Poster

Forgiveness. Who else?

2. Most Interactive Poster

TheGoodJoe

3. Most Intelligent Poster

goldfish80

4. Most Resourceful Poster

Mujtahida

5. Most Respectful Poster

DaveP

6. Most Consistent Poster

Joebie


7. Most Positive Poster

tbaba1234

8. Best Sense of Humor

Taliban

9. Most Critical Poster

Komekn

10. Nicest Poster

junnyjake

11. Most Influential Poster

Kog45

12. Most Pro-Foreign Born Poster

Forgiveness

13. Most Pro-Naija League Poster

BascoVanVeli

14. People's Favourite

Safarigirl

15. Most Sentimental

Humility017

16. Notorious Silent Reader

Esose9

17. Impressive Thread Newbie

darkelf

18. Diehard Super Eagles Fan

edi287

19. Best Friends

komekn and forgiveness

20. Most Outstanding Poster

TheGoodJoe

21. Overall Best Poster

tbaba1234

22. Top Dramatic Topics

Iheanacho a flop.

23. The most respected

Icon4s

I'd add one more category. THE MOST UNDERRATED. And that to me is junnyjake.

Humility017:

you can make it something sir....

happy New year to you and everyone here...
you made my 2017 memorable trust you to make 2018 the best...
Love you all

daveP:

CATEGORIES
1. Most Controversial Poster-Mickael2, forgiveness
2. Most Interactive Poster-Mujtahida, Joebie
3. Most Intelligent Poster-Icon4s abi na 79?
4. Most Resourceful Poster-Thegoodjoe
5. Most Respectful Poster-aig07, mujtahida
6. Most Consistent Poster-icon79
7. Most Positive Poster-thegoodjoe
7. Best Sense of Humor- (if na by dis smiley usage, i go win am.) thesupernerd!!
8. Most Critical Poster-Forgiveness
9. Nicest Poster-thesupernerd
10. Most Influential Poster-tbaba1234, Joebie.
11. People's Favourite-icon79
12. Best Friends-
13. Top Dramatic Topics-Nacho-matics, who be world class4 SE?, benchwarmers assoc of europe, set 94 vs 17, Sokari-tics, Whoscored stats vs reality. Tammy denies, Old things are passed away, Mikel-ogy.
14. Honourable Mention: tbaba1234, terzurum5, thesupernerd. danycrusoe,safarigirl, kog45, mujtahida, joebie.

neighy:
polls i can help with that...

forgiveness:
Hahaha! I don win award God win!!!!! [i][/i]

Kog45:
My man you are still on this matter.Well let me add this cos you want to hear my view.

Honestly i don't want to talk on it again,everyone to his opinion and we must respect it but if simple discussion is leading to a stage as if we want to win WC i put stop to it and move on but due to respect i have for you let me chip in some words.

Pls i need to make some clarifications here and it will take a very intelligent and unbiased minds to understand my very simple point related to 94 set and present team.

I don't compare the two teams cos it's not yet time even i still rate Keshi 2013/14 team ahead of this present team based on their achievement but that does not mean i should ridicule Rohr team,they are just evolving so need for comparison.

On US 94 have made my comments and i still stand by it that the team was full of average players but as a team they look solid which we all saw at Afcon and US 94.

I don't think there is need for me to go to archives and be digging things out cos i followed the team passionately during Westerhoff era(89-94)it all started in Yaoundé against Cameroon and ended with Italy in US 94.

I folliwed the development of the players,how they are faring in their club sides especially Peter Rufai since Afcon 1984,Samson Siasia which i rate highly since 1985 U 20 WC in Moscow,Stephen Keshi who i followed since Libya 82,Rashidi Yekini since shooting star days,Austin Okocha since Mauritius 93,Mutiu Adepoju since Saudi 89 qualifiers played in Adamasigha stadium, Amokachie at Ranchers Bees due to my love for their Argentine coach Dominiques,i followed Amuneke since cairo 91 and i had great relationship with Mutiu Adepoju,Jayjay Okocha,Tijani Babangida through a friend,i remember telling icon4s that Tijani was taken to US 94 as a standby player even Ikpeba was nearly dropped for him.To cap it all i handled Clemens Westerhoff utilities and we do talk if he get the chance before he left Nigeria.

I'm saying this for you to know that i should be biased but i will not cos we need to put the record straight and not to run the present team down cos some certain players are not in the team.I should be here shouting Dele Aiyenugba up and down due to our close relationship,i was involved in his first professional contract as a player with Kwara star before moving to Enyimba and he still see me as a senior.Taiwo Awoniyi is like a son,Obafemi Martins a great pal to me through my junior cousin whom they shared the same agent in person of Churchill Olishe but have never come here to solicit for their inclusion in the team.

I don't think there is need to patch things up to express my opinions.It's my opinion based on what I know not based on oral history or secondary source.

Pls check this out

1.Peter Rufai. was a bench warmer with Go Ahead Eagles and later released before WC

2.Ben Iroha made just 21 appearance between 92-96 for Vitesse Arhemm

3.Austin Eguavoen couldn't tie a regular shirt with Kortrijk prior to WC and was released after WC.

4.Chidi Nwanu truly second African best in in 92/93 season with SK Beveren but got mid season transfered to Anderlecht and played just 9 games for Anderlecht prior to WC.later made additional 5 games and was released too

5.Samson Siasia was warming the bench throughout his stay at Nantes sitting down for Chad boy Japhet Ndoram and Patrice Loko.

6.Mike Emenalo was a non league player just like Sunday Sunday game prior to WC

7.Emeka Ezeugo a India based player who later joined Lyngy in Denmark

8.Uche Okafor who joined Hannover 96 in division two but always on the bench

9.Thompson Oliha playing for African Sports after moving from Asec memossa.

10.Efan Ekoku solid at Norwich but a misfit in Eagles.

11.Victor Ikpeba not regular with Monaco 93/94

12.Austin Okocha in and out of Frankfurt
Germany
13.Alloy Agu second choice in his Turkish club

14.Stephen Keshi already passed his prime at molenbeek.

15.Wilfred Agbonavbare good in his club Rayo Vallecano but second choice in the ational team.
[b]
I need to leave out Rashidi Yekini who was then reigning APOTY and solid with Vitoria Setubal,Sunday Olishe great form before WC,Mutiu Adepoju regular with Santander,Finidi George great with Ajax,Dan Amokachie superb with FC Brugge,Uche Okechucwu regular with Fernabache nd Emma Amuneke solid with Zamalek,meaning we have just solid 7 regular players in US 94 squad leaving out Oliha,Ekoku cos they don't look solid in eagles.

Pls rate this players for God sake based on their performance in 93/94 a season before US 94 World Cup.Honestly it was cos of this i appreciate their performance at US 94 so why not give Rohr team a chance and let see what [/b]they can do instead of unnecessary comparison.