BascoVanVeli:


Yes but his father had contact with him and he even stayed in Nigeria for 6 months.

TheSuperNerd:
WHEN YOU GUYS ARE READY TO CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT OUR RISING NEW GOLDEN GENERATION OF SUPER EAGLES PLAYERS/TALENTS AS A TEAM.... AND NOT INDULGE IN ALLI FAMILY GOSSIP, MAYBE THINGS WILL RETURN TO NORMAL on this thread again...... This is what happens when you allow a troll like Forgiveness take the mic.... Dele Alli plays for England now... And he will have a great career with them. Wish him the best and move on....

BascoVanVeli:


Yes but his father had contact with him and he even stayed in Nigeria for 6 months.

tbaba1234:
For players like Balogun and Troost, it is very likely that their fathers were part of their lives and gave them that connection with Nigeria. Alli did not have that.

BascoVanVeli:


There was nothing wrong with saying lets not make the same mistake as Alaba and Dele seeing the amount of anglo players available it was just a reminder to us.

safarigirl:
I think Victor Moses has a far more pathetic story if we want to make excuses for why players shouldn't rep us.

What Dele needs, is to purge himself from all that resentment and bitterness. Victor Moses did that and look how happy he is now.

safarigirl:
I think Victor Moses has a far more pathetic story if we want to make excuses for why players shouldn't rep us.

What Dele needs, is to purge himself from all that resentment and bitterness. Victor Moses did that and look how happy he is now.

tbaba1234:


Moses grew up with his Nigerian Uncle so he was still connected to Nigeria in that sense.

safarigirl:
I guess growing up with a Nigerian uncle will stop you from resenting everything a country whose people orphaned you stands for.

Growing up with an uncle or anyone who isn't yoir biological parent is not as rosy as anyone should assume in Nigeria.

So no, I do not think that makes Victor's agreement to play for us any less easier.

Dele has issues, we need not justify the issues or elaborate them. Just say it as is, he should sort himself out. Playing for England won't stop the issues from resurfacing, so, he better sit down and sort them out rather than blaming whoever.

Anyway, he never would have played for us, since he has issues

TheSuperNerd:
Yeah... Reminders indeed.

Reminders that have turned this thread into a Dele Alli family gossip show.

We keep mentioning foreign-borns on this thread.... We are talking of beefing up our team with other foreign-borns/breds of Nigerian blood and you tell me he's reminding us... Reminding us of what exactly??

This is how he made the ignorant remark of Nigeria ignoring Ovie Ejaria at U-17 and U-20 levels not knowing he was in Manu Garba's plans all along and even in Amuneke's plans for 2017 U-20 WC (unfortunately we wont be there).

In 2013, Arsenal and GCSE exams stopped Ovie from playing at UAE 2013 alongside Nacho and co...

In 2015, Liverpool stopped Ovie from teaming up with Nigeria's U-20s.


What could Manu and Nigeria have done naa?

That is not to say Nigeria hasnt been slack on certain talents but again DONT MAKE IT LOOK LIKE NIGERIA IS PROUD to approach any foreign-born/bred...

Can we return to the thread's scope of discourse please?

BascoVanVeli:


He can remind us of wat he wants na, he is a grown man na, u can say u don't like it but its up to him to stop unless u've created mind control in ur lab

safarigirl:
I think Victor Moses has a far more pathetic story if we want to make excuses for why players shouldn't rep us.

What Dele needs, is to purge himself from all that resentment and bitterness. Victor Moses did that and look how happy he is now.

BascoVanVeli:


I don't see bitterness i see a kid who never wants to be poor again. From his first chance in the epl u could see his hunger and toughness, we have to also remember he grew up in the streets so he has that nasty streak in him. Honestly we won't miss him so much but one can only wonder especially the better he does.

safarigirl:
I guess growing up with a Nigerian uncle will stop you from resenting everything a country whose people orphaned you stands for.

Growing up with an uncle or anyone who isn't yoir biological parent is not as rosy as anyone should assume in Nigeria.

So no, I do not think that makes Victor's agreement to play for us any less easier.

Dele has issues, we need not justify the issues or elaborate them. Just say it as is, he should sort himself out. Playing for England won't stop the issues from resurfacing, so, he better sit down and sort them out rather than blaming whoever.

Anyway, he never would have played for us, since he has issues

TheSuperNerd:
Actually I have...... Loollll **suspicious... Like how did he know? Lucky guess maybe... Yara Yara is leaking my files again huh?**

I have but the ethics of its application are still being discussed and also I wouldnt wanna use such on him.... He's a grown man like you've just pointed out...

Mickael2:


i have said it before and will say it again, you guys should stop calling people trolls or haters just because of their preference or they way they talk, we are not the same you know?

And every single time you keep on mentioning that one mistake he made concerning Ejaria, we all have made mistakes. In fact I remember there was this basketball argument you had with... was it Bascon? And he totally destroyed you then and yet you didn't want to admit you lost, yet nobody ever mentions that around here anymore, that's the spirit we want, not the kind of spirit that tells you to call another a troll and to repeatedly recall his mistakes

BascoVanVeli:


U bring up a different foriegner in ur arguements so i don't See the big deal in bringing up a Nigerian doing well no matter what country he plays for, we can have dual citizenship for a reason so playing for England does not make him non Nigerian.

forgiveness:


So you know pass em mama, ba?

Is that delusion of the highest order on ya part?

tbaba1234:
Alli's link with Nigeria is through his father.If he does not have a good relationship with him, it was always unlikely for him to play for Nigeria.

The fact that he cut relationship with his parents to the extent of removing his last name from his jersey shows the extent of his resentment. None of us know what he has been through. His father is coming from Houston to see his games now but where was he when the boy was growing up??

TheGoodJoe:


Please, the point does not relate. Talking about how Suarez plays or the impact of Gundogan in City is not the same as drooling and wishing a player who plays for another National team play for us.

There is no need crying over spilled milk. Alaba and Dele Alli are not playing for us. He should get over it.

TheGoodJoe:


So in your Foreign affairs and Policy Dictionary, snubbing a father who traveled from US to England to see his son is close relationship. Do not make me laugh.

forgiveness:


Even the Bible was written for reproof and correction, how much more common mortal can't be used as point of reference?

I continue to refer to it as my point of reference whenever I think it is necessary.

If you like make you dey think about ya ex.... na you sabi. Me, I have taken.

Alaba, Dele Alli, Barkley (Effanga) in Toni Braxton voice forgiveness sings:

Unbreak My Heart,
Say You Love Me Again,
Undo This Hurt You Caused,
When You Walked Out The Door,
And Walked Out Of My Liiiiife.

BascoVanVeli:


That doesn't vindicate name calling and a full day of research into a players personal life.

BascoVanVeli:


Would his father make that visit if they were not close at some point in time?

tbaba1234:


He did not grow up on the streets though. From the time, he was 13, he lived with a relatively affluent family. We can't judge him becauss we do not know the full story.

BascoVanVeli:


That doesn't vindicate name calling and a full day of research into a players personal life.

tbaba1234:


When he was a kid... What was the communication like when he moved to his foster home? Did the father reach out to the foster parents? The mum is talking about not speaking to the foster mum for a long time, Does that sound healthy? She saw her son only once a month since he was 13.

See, i know someone who was adopted... some of her direct family members hardly communicate with her. Infact, her grown-up eldest blood sister has not seen her since she was adopted about 5 years. She stays just about 1/2 hours away.

She is a young girl now and the only family she knows is her adopted family. If she becomes big and famous someday and her family try to get close to her, she could resent them and deny them access.

forgiveness:


Dele was never legally adopted and there is nothing wrong if he stays with his foster parents.

The boy even agreed and came once in a while to stay with her mother. He also had contact with his father in the past.

Recently, something went wrong. Simple thing.