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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 8:50pm On Oct 17, 2018
TheSuperNerd:


**Whispers** Carry a ring too, to pop that "queshun" My good man... wink The time could never be more right...
My boss... I just dey low key.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Diavolo: 8:50pm On Oct 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:



How many clear chances were created for him? That is the truth I am asking for. You are a giant when it comes to knowledge of football so how could you miss that if your mind was not clouded by something else? If he offered nothing like you say the coach would never invite him.


Ighalo was scoring goals and you asked me why I liked the mediocre striker? You disowned him from his area in Lagos which you are from. Flash in the pan was what you called him at Watford
ighalo was rightly criticized for his performances previously cos they were poor even at times abysmal and it was justified. But over the last two games he tried and performed well and he's been praised, but that's not to say he didn't deserve those criticism, he deserved them just as he deserves the present praise.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:52pm On Oct 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


Using his stats against him while turning a blind eye to what goes on in the pitch with the exception of a miss that even Ronaldo and Messi will not convert 10 times out of 10. When your criticism is not adding up.

Btw it took Giroud over 30 matches to reach 10 goals but Ighalo has it in 25.

Please please and please... No one and I repeat no one should compare a fruitless Target man in Giroud to this on-fire Iggy abeg!!!
They should not be in the same sentence anymore for now abeg... Ahhh!!
Did you see that Iggy scoop on two libyans?!! Can Giroud do that? Please ooooo.... Don't "angry" me!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:53pm On Oct 17, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
2019 AfconQ Top Scorers

6 goals: Odion Jude Ighalo (Nigeria).


4 goals: El Fardou Ben Nabouhane (Comoros), Knowledge Musona (Zimbabwe).

3 goals: Gelson (Angola), Mohamed Salah (Egypt), Faneva Imà Andriatsima (Madagascar), Paulin Voavy (Madagascar), Farouk Miya (Uganda), Justin Shonga (Zambia).


Wow this could be a major career highlight for Ighalo and who knows top scorer in AFCONQ and China and we may be talking about a podium spot for the POTY.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:55pm On Oct 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


Your own was that you never liked Ighalo from the very beginning.

Gbam! grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:56pm On Oct 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:



How many clear chances were created for him? That is the truth I am asking for. You are a giant when it comes to knowledge of football so how could you miss that if your mind was not clouded by something else? If he offered nothing like you say the coach would never invite him.


Ighalo was scoring goals and you asked me why I liked the mediocre striker? You disowned him from his area in Lagos which you are from. Flash in the pan was what you called him at Watford

How many clear chances did he score from in the last 2 games? maybe 1 or 2. Most of the goals were scored from either half chances or from the ones he created himself. That is what is expected of a quality CF. And not to be hiding behind or beside defenders and expecting a pass before u can do any thing or be running into wrong positions and offside.

Besides, there were so many clear chances he got in previous games, it was either he played straight to the goalie, wide, or ran into offside positions.

He was highly clinical in the last 2 games and that was the difference.

And yes he was a Flash in the pan at Watford. That remains the untwisted fact.

And yes also, I opined he was one of the Worst players from my hood that ever played for the SE because he failed to Impress like his predecessors.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:58pm On Oct 17, 2018
Icon4s:


He never Impressed.

I never could have been Happy with a Super Eagles CF that scored only 3 competitive goals in 3 years. Tell me you were satisfied with Ighalo's barren run.

2 other strikers I am not happy with are Brown Ideye and Anthony Ujah. And for no other reasons than their performances.

I can not and will not defend mediocrity.

Let these players start performing and they enter my good books. That's all.


You never trusted him from the unset even when he scored goals in the EPL. Talk true. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:59pm On Oct 17, 2018
Diavolo:
ighalo was rightly criticized for his performances previously cos they were poor even at times abysmal and it was justified. But over the last two games he tried and performed well and he's been praised, but that's not to say he didn't deserve those criticism, he deserved them just as he deserves the present praise.

Thank you.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:00pm On Oct 17, 2018
Clementoke:
Familiar Rohr mistakes almost sabotage Super Eagles in Sfax


Nigeria came out of the blocks quickly and looked to be cruising, but the German's inability to react to the game's ebb and flow haunts his side

Nigeria may now be in pole position to qualify for the Africa Cup of Nations for the first time since 2013, but they certainly made heavy work of it in Sfax.

There may well be a lesson here, in rising from adversity, in eking it out in a fashion that had not been done previously under this management. However, it was an unnecessary toil, one which might have been quite easily avoided.

It had all started so well, and by the time Ahmed Musa danced through the flimsy curtain of red in the Libyan penalty area to squeeze the second home, it seemed another pasting was on the cards.

The Super Eagles were soaring early on, buoyed by Alex Iwobi’s excellence, Odion Ighalo’s energy and a commonsense approach to self-preservation: the ball zipped across the turf, players dropped into pockets of space intelligently, and picked the right moments to vary the tempo of the passing.

Yet, after the opening 25 minutes, it all came a cropper. A two-goal lead may be notoriously treacherous, but even beyond the evanescence of that margin, there were deep fissures within the team, both in terms of composition and technical input, that meant that door was always ajar.



THE NDIDI-ETEBO DOUBLE PIVOT

The consequence of injury to Ogenyi Onazi was the use of Oghenekaro Etebo in a deep-lying midfield role.

There are, of course, many strings to the Stoke City player’s bow, but he simply is not this type of player.

Etebo is in his element when carrying the ball into the final third, and lacks the vision and discipline required to play a holding role. Invariably, and unsurprisingly, the Super Eagles gave up a ton of chances, and were slowly pegged back.


Often in the second half, Libya had space in behind the Nigeria midfield to run at the backline, and both Leon Balogun and William Troost-Ekong had their most uncertain showings in a long time with little cover in front of them.

Even more remarkably, there was a specialist holding midfielder, in the form of John Ogu, on the bench, but he would only be introduced after Libya’s comeback was complete.



FAILING TO STEM THE LIBYA TIDE

For all that Gernot Rohr’s reign as Super Eagles boss has been productive results-wise, his ability to influence the game as it goes on has been consistently the weakest aspect of his work.

Time and again, he has found himself out-managed by his opposite number, and at a loss as to what to do to stem the tide. The debacle against Argentina, where he failed to address the Albiceleste’s rising menace through the second half, still rankles.

In Sfax again, he was again caught out. As Nigeria lost control of the game toward the end of the first half and into the second, it was obvious that there needed to be reinforcement in the middle of the park to act as a breakwater. With Samuel Kalu struggling to fulfil any sort of responsibility, either defensively or offensively, he ought to have been sacrificed earlier for Ogu to come on.

Instead, it was only after Libya had found a leveller that Rohr shook himself out of his daze to make a sub.

By this point, the Super Eagles had been under the cosh for over 20 minutes in the second period.



INDULGING POOR PERFORMANCE

One of the cornerstones of behavioural training is the incentivization of good behaviour/performance, as well as punishment of bad. Rohr, over the two legs against Libya, and over the course of his time in charge of the Super Eagles, has failed to grasp this.

Case in point: Samuel Kalu.

For the second game running, the Bordeaux winger put up a weak showing. However, while, in the first leg, it was mainly about his poor decision-making in positions of promise, in Sfax it was a complete lack of tactical awareness and discipline.

His unwillingness to stick to the right side of the pitch and take advantage of potential overloads robbed the teams of other avenues of attack. While it could be chalked up to the impatience of youth and wanting to join in on the fun on the left-hand side, Rohr ought to impressed upon him what was required.

[b]More worryingly, it exposed Ola Aina quite a bit in defensive transitions.

In spite of these, Rohr left Kalu on till very late on, [/b]when the team would clearly have been better served with a more disciplined player, especially in the second half. There is even an argument to be made that, on his performance in the first leg, he ought to have been dropped altogether.

Culled from goal.com

Spot on.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:01pm On Oct 17, 2018
TheSuperNerd:


Please please and please... No one and I repeat no one should compare a fruitless Target man in Giroud to this on-fire Iggy abeg!!!
They should not be in the same sentence anymore for now abeg... Ahhh!!
Did you see that Iggy scoop on two libyans?!! Can Giroud do that? Please ooooo.... Don't "angry" me!

I surrender o. See my hands are up grin Vintage Ighalo. I remember we had a conversation about the Iggy scoop and the Libyans got served big time.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:01pm On Oct 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


Your distaste for the striker goes back to his U20 playing days right or wrong? You kicked against him in the super eagles from the beginning that I know.

You cannot give a man one half chance per match and start crying goal drought all about. The fact is that your dislike for him made you overlook the truth sir.

Hahahaha! grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:02pm On Oct 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


Wow this could be a major career highlight for Ighalo and who knows top scorer in AFCONQ and China and we may be talking about a podium spot for the POTY.

Ehen... Basco is already planning APOTY ceremony for Iggy... If I didn't know better, I would say you love the man more than his hot beautiful wife does... grin

Your love na wire oooo.... Don't get his wife jealous ooo...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:03pm On Oct 17, 2018
forgiveness:


You never trusted him from the unset even when he scored goals in the EPL. Talk true. grin
Na WA o. Now oga wants to forget that one o.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:03pm On Oct 17, 2018
tbaba1234:
Criticism of a player's performance does not mean you hate the player. There is nothing personal here.


Can you please tell those tagging others Iheanacho haters too? grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:04pm On Oct 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


Using his stats against him while turning a blind eye to what goes on in the pitch with the exception of a miss that even Ronaldo and Messi will not convert 10 times out of 10. When your criticism is not adding up.

Btw it took Giroud over 30 matches to reach 10 goals but Ighalo has it in 25.

Oga, we can't compare Giroud with Ighalo. They are worlds apart.

Giroud was largely used as a substitute playing 30 mins or less in most of his first few years with France.

Ighalo for the most part has been a regular.

Their actual minutes on the pitch is not the same .

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:04pm On Oct 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:



How many clear chances were created for him? That is the truth I am asking for. You are a giant when it comes to knowledge of football so how could you miss that if your mind was not clouded by something else? If he offered nothing like you say the coach would never invite him.


Ighalo was scoring goals and you asked me why I liked the mediocre striker? You disowned him from his area in Lagos which you are from. Flash in the pan was what you called him at Watford

Chaiiiiiii! Truth is bitter ooooooo. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:07pm On Oct 17, 2018
TheSuperNerd:


Ehen... Basco is already planning APOTY ceremony for Iggy... If I didn't know better, I would say you love the man more than his hot beautiful wife does... grin

Your love na wire oooo.... Don't get his wife jealous ooo...

Na wa for you. I said the same thing when Victor Moses looked in the position last time. The glory comes back to us so it is not only about Ighalo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:09pm On Oct 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:

Na WA o. Now oga wants to forget that one o.

I can never forget because I was involved in the usual attacks for harming for his call then.

His slogan was flash in a pan. grin

I can never forget but em con forget na? grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:09pm On Oct 17, 2018
tbaba1234:


Oga, we can't compare Giroud with Ighalo. They are worlds apart.

Giroud was largely used as a substitute playing 30 mins or less in most of his first few years with France.

Ighalo for the most part has been a regular.

Their actual minutes on the pitch is not the same .
So Ighalo played 90 minutes each in 25 games?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:11pm On Oct 17, 2018
Yes, we did discuss it some while back. That skill is so simple yet so effective when timed right. The Iggy Scoop aka the Ighalo feint is what made him a nightmare to CBs in the EPL before his barren run began all before he left for China.

I am just happy he finally executed it in the GWG. Now Ndidi owes us a screamer.... He has been scoring screamers from Genk to Leicester but he never do am for GWG colors. He owes us!!!! Him must produce!!! Haba... I don dey eye am since. angry

Anyway, I hope Ighalo keeps this up. Deliver like this or close to it from time to time (even if there will inevitably be a bad game at some point for which I can excuse- but hopefully not a very important game ooo abeg) and I won't have much or anything to complain about. Infact, I will become your defence attorney.


BascoVanVeli:


I surrender o. See my hands are up grin Vintage Ighalo. I remember we had a conversation about the Iggy scoop and the Libyans got served big time.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:14pm On Oct 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:

So Ighalo played 90 minutes each in 25 games?

Ighalo had almost 500 more minutes than Giroud after 25 games.. He had significantly more time on the pitch.

Giroud did not have the responsibility of main striker in his early years.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:16pm On Oct 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


Na wa for you. I said the same thing when Victor Moses looked in the position last time. The glory comes back to us so it is not only about Ighalo.

You should know when I am whining you naa.... wink Lol... If Ighalo can win the APOTY on the back of topping the AfconQ scorers chart and going right ahead to top score at Cameroun 2019 and lead us to the Afcon title... Then yes, he stands a great chance of winning it. Just that those two African attacking "devils" at Red Merseyside are also factors shaa ooo...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:25pm On Oct 17, 2018
forgiveness:


Can you please tell those tagging others Iheanacho haters too? grin

It is hate. In your cases, you pull Nacho down to the mud even when he does produce the goods. He scores, and you guys will talk about his first touch and call him average. If it is not that, he assists and you talk about his failure to hit that shot well... Bla bla bla...

You even bring Nacho into your arguments when talking about other players when Nacho was never even supposed to be part of that discussion. You guys do it a lot... So yours is wayyy different. In Iggy's case... Before his current explosive form, he was barren. Simple and short. And the criticism was justified but what I cannot stand for is calling him trash, or insulting the man. Or going as far as threatening him as they did on Instagram.

In the Super Eagles team today, Nacho still boasts a better goals involvement over a lesser number of games. Yet you guys always had negative things to say about him. Someone even called Nacho a dog. Mehn that is pure undiluted hate. No questions asked. It is very very bad.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:28pm On Oct 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:

Na WA o. Now oga wants to forget that one o.

Tell me you were satisfied with Ighalo's performances since he joined the Super Eagles.

I am waiting.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:28pm On Oct 17, 2018
Certitude:

My boss... I just dey low key.

I see you My good man. smiley Just stuck it inside your back trouser pocket... And wait for the right timing. wink Break a leg my Man...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:35pm On Oct 17, 2018
TheSuperNerd:


It is hate. In your cases, you pull Nacho down to the mud even when he does produce the goods. He scores, and you guys will talk about his first touch and call him average. If it is not that, he assists and you talk about his failure to hit that shot well... Bla bla bla...

You even bring Nacho into your arguments when talking about other players when Nacho was never even supposed to be part of that discussion. You guys do it a lot... So yours is wayyy different. In Iggy's case... Before his current explosive form, he was barren. Simple and short. And the criticism was justified but what I cannot stand for is calling him trash, or insulting the man. Or going as far as threatening him as they did on Instagram.

In the Super Eagles team today, Nacho still boasts a better goals involvement over a lesser number of games. Yet you guys always had negative things to say about him. Someone even called Nacho a dog. Mehn that is pure undiluted hate. No questions asked. It is very very bad.

If giving pure undiluted fact is hate, how come independent observers noticed it and gave him his report card after the season finished? grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 9:35pm On Oct 17, 2018
tbaba1234:


Oga, we can't compare Giroud with Ighalo. They are worlds apart.

Giroud was largely used as a substitute playing 30 mins or less in most of his first few years with France.

Ighalo for the most part has been a regular.

Their actual minutes on the pitch is not the same .

Ighalo doesn't play for the star studded French team ,he plays for a average team

If giroud plays for the eagles ,the hypocrite fans would have also threaten his family .

Am not comparing ighalo to giroud ,But as far as I am concerned and the football world, giroud is an average player,take it or leave it .

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:35pm On Oct 17, 2018
tbaba1234:


Ighalo had almost 500 more minutes than Giroud after 25 games.. He had significantly more time on the pitch.

Giroud did not have the responsibility of main striker in his early years.

Now u want to get into minutes, I thought u said 4 goals in 21 matches was a poor return for a striker no matter what? U didn't go into minutes until today.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:37pm On Oct 17, 2018
Icon4s:


Tell me you were satisfied with Ighalo's performances since he joined the Super Eagles.

I am waiting.

what have I been talking about this whole time?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:39pm On Oct 17, 2018
andrew444:


Ighalo doesn't play for the star studded French team ,he plays for a average team

If giroud plays for the eagles ,the hypocrite fans would have also threaten his family .

Am not comparing ighalo to giroud ,But as far as I am concerned and the football world, giroud is an average player,take it or leave it .

In Africa, Nigeria is a star studded team.. Most of our opposition were African teams,

Giroud is now one of France top goal scorers. very underrated player.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:42pm On Oct 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


what have I been talking about this whole time?

Were you satisfied with Ighalo scoring only 3 competitive goals in 3 years including that miss that ended our 2018 WC dreams? Answer Yes or No.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 9:42pm On Oct 17, 2018
Certitude:

Congratulations dear. If you still dey gwags, make we see na.
Thanks smiley.

I still dey Gwags o, how you dey?

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