Well done Danny. The truth is the truth. Tammy is good and had a very decent season but in comparison with Osimhen, I am afraid the truth cannot be altered. Osimhen takes it. Osimhen is just the better well rounded striker between the two. Debating it is b'cos agenda must try agendicate. (Thanks again Sir Chrisooblog )

Now, one particular thing that bugs me about Tammy from the stats representation you dropped is how he is so tall and doesn't turn it into a major weapon. Standing at 1.90m mehn... You should be using that as part of your major weapons to disturb opposing teams. If Tammy can "up" his aerial prowess, he will be close enough to being a beast. Right now, he is just not there. Osimhen at 1.86m trumps him aerially and is already a young monster against opposing sides. Osimhen strikes fear into defences with his pressing, aerial prowess, speed, aggresiveness and more. Osimhen is also technically astute. Tammy is technical too but needs to work on maximising his height advantage.

Danielnino00:


To you, anything that doesn't have to do with English football is assumptive and presumptive...


Here's another data for you to look at..

@ screenshot 2 Osimhen in green...Tammy in blue..
Sha look at it with your unbiased eye...
CC: Edopesin

This lad is a baller. Watched enough of him to know Lille have bagged Canada's other next big thing. Canada have two next big things... Alphonso Davies and this guy, Jonathan David.

He is different from Osimhen in style but is similar in speed and finishing. He is no classic #9 like Osimhen but a very mobile forward who can operate through the wings, operate between the lines between the opposing team's DM and CBs as a withdrawn forward, SS or some kind of AM. He can also play in a two man attack and can lead the line if need be but as a kind of false 9. Lad is kinda similar to Werner.

A good signing and fine attempt at replacing Osimhen. Only thing is his counter-pressing will have to step up even more as that is key to Galtier's Lille side. Something Osimhen excelled at so beautifully.

Tolulopefinest:
Lille have signed Jonathan David from Gent. (Osimhen's replacement). I could remember how this guy always score anytime Taiwo Awoniyi gets substituted. *Lille Sabi scout better players Sha*

TheSuperNerd:
Well done Danny. The truth is the truth. Tammy is good and had a very decent season but in comparison with Osimhen, I am afraid the truth cannot be altered. Osimhen takes it. Osimhen is just the better well rounded striker between the two. Debating it is b'cos agenda must try agendicate.

Now, one particular thing that bugs me about Tammy from the stats representation you dropped is how he is so tall and doesn't turn it into a major weapon. Standing at 1.90m mehn... You should be using that as part of your major weapons to disturb opposing teams. If Tammy can "up" his aerial prowess, he will be close enough to being a beast. Right now, he is just not there. Osimhen at 1.86m trumps him aerially and is already a young monster against opposing sides. Osimhen strikes fear into defences with his pressing, aerial prowess, speed, aggresiveness and more. Osimhen is also technically astute. Tammy is technical too but needs to work on maximising his height advantage.

U have said it all jare.

Tammy has done well this season.. same with Osimhen...
But when u compare their all round play,Osimhen is clearly better..
Some people don't want to admit that... All they care about is that we hate Tammy because he rejected us.. Nonsense!


Next season will be very interesting... Tammy will be up against one of the current best striker in the world for competition.. will he be able to retain a starting shirt?
Osimhen will be moving to a bigger club in a better league...would he be able to withstand the pressure and deliver what's expected of him?

We will see. ..

TheSuperNerd:
This lad is a baller. Watched enough of him to know Lille have bagged Canada's other next big thing. Canada have two next big things... Alphonso Davies and this guy, Jonathan David.

He is different from Osimhen in style but is similar in speed and finishing. He is no classic #9 like Osimhen but a very mobile forward who can operate through the wings, operate between the lines between the opposing team's DM and CBs as a withdrawn forward, SS or some kind of AM. He can also play in a two man attack and can lead the line if need be but as a kind of false 9. Lad is kinda similar to Werner.

A good signing and fine attempt at replacing Osimhen. Only thing is his counter-pressing will have to step up even more as that is key to Galtier's Lille side. Something Osimhen excelled at so beautifully.

Lille have also signed Angel Gomez from Man Utd..

It seem like they have accepted that they can't match the likes of PSG and Lyon in terms of performance so they have decided to go the Ajax/Dortmund way of buying young talents and selling them for mad profit

Very good questions Danny. Questions that Time itself will be so glad to answer..... With time.

Danielnino00:


U have said it all jare.

Tammy has done well this season.. same with Osimhen...
But when u compare their all round play,Osimhen is clearly better..
Some people don't want to admit that... All they care about is that we hate Tammy because he rejected us.. Nonsense!


Next season will be very interesting... Tammy will be up against one of the current best striker in the world for competition.. will he be able to retain a starting shirt?
Osimhen will be moving to a bigger club in a better league...would he be able to withstand the pressure and deliver what's expected of him?

We will see. ..

Danielnino00:


Abi..

That Lille team didn't even have up to 5 players that would pass as being above average...

Lille vs Bordeaux ( victor) and Chelsea vs Brighton (Tammy)

Which of These two should find it easier to score in their respective matches? The answer is obvious.

Yes. They signed Angel Gomes and loaned him out immediately to Boavista in the Portuguese Primeira Liga. They then signed Botman, a left footed CB from Ajax who had a very good season alongside Ejuke at Heerenveen.

Botman is to replace Gabriel Magalhaes who could be on his way to Napoli if or when Napoli eventually sells off Koulibaly this transfer window. Their other young CB is Tiago Djalo and they still got Captain Fonte. Lille is such a well run club. They are not elite but they also not a team that fights relegation or finish in midtable anymore. They always identify their targets at least a year to when their current talents might leave.

The only one they didn't plan in advance for yet was Osimhen. They thought they will have Osimhen for two years minimum, but the boy exploded beyond expectations. This is why they had to rush in for David now. In all, Lille Sabi abeg. They are the new money making machines of European Club football through thorough and masterclass scouting and detailed talents-spotting akin to what Dortmund and Ajax do as you have rightly mentioned. The money they have made on Hazard, Gervinho, Pepe, Rafael Leao and now Osimhen, with Gabriel to follow soonest no be small thing abeg. And they will surely make more on David.

Danielnino00:


Lille have also signed Angel Gomez from Man Utd..

It seem like they have accepted that they can't match the likes of PSG and Lyon in terms of performance so they have decided to go the Ajax/Dortmund way of buying young talents and selling them for mad profit

All round play

Tammy Abraham pic 1
Osimhen pic 2



Abraham still trounced in work rate

MetalJigsaw:
Lille vs Bordeaux ( victor) and Chelsea vs Brighton (Tammy)

Which of These two should find it easier to score in their respective matches? The answer is obvious.

What about Chelsea vs Wolves, Liverpool, Arsenal, Sheffield (Tammy Scored against these teams)
And
Lille vs Monaco, Nice, Angers, Strausbourg

Can you see your bias
Lille finished in second place last season btw

TheSuperNerd:
The Sevilla coach, Julen Lopetegui is a top coach. Perhaps some folks don't remember him. He was the one that coached that Spain and was unbeaten with them in 20 games prior to Russia 2018. Spain sacked him just before the WC b'cos his move to Real Madrid leaked to the press and to the public even before the World cup began. That guy had built a very solid Spanish side and I am certain his sack affected Spain's chances greatly at that WC.

So Sevilla's win today is no surprise. They Sabi ball and their coach na bad-ass (Never mind his Madrid sacking or his not so impressive records as coach of Rayo Vallecano and FC Porto). Julen is very good.

Agreed

Edopesin:


How many league title and UCL do they have in past 75years?

They have Zero
Liverpool went for 30years while Sevilla are aiming for 100years

So, Europa League and Super Cup na spoon abi?

When Sevilla was winning b2b2b UEL, the same UEL you're looking down on intentionally. The same UEL Chelsea and United celebrated like they won World Cup.

smh, keep up with the bias.

Europa League is not a trophy, it's just spoon

Una drag Víctor and Tamaraebi for beginning of season. When we thought it was over, una carry am come for end of season again.

Oga ooooo

ChrisKels:


Oya oo Norseman no vex oo. I am sorry no come kill me for nothing, na cap I cap, I no follow u argue or battle for supremacy oo abeg. I no go talk Una talk again sorry

forgiveness:


According to Chelsea's standard Werner na low budget. The rest na story to deviate from the Koko.

An almost 50mill pounds striker isn't low budget, no matter the club paying that amount.

IDENNAA:





Up till now I never understood that useless contract. For what ?

Pep brother is part owner of Girona, so he basically used City fund to buy player for his brother's club

Arabiandude:

Now Wolves doesn't have pace for front?
My guy my guy, so Traore doesn't have pace anymore or the EPL isn't known for pace and physicality anymore?

Some people can be very funny

barackodam:



So, Europa League and Super Cup na spoon abi?

When Sevilla was winning b2b2b UEL, the same UEL you're looking down on intentionally. The same UEL Chelsea and United celebrated like they won World Cup.

smh, keep up with the bias.

Europa League is not a trophy, it's just spoon

Who is talking about Europa league here?
I specifically asked about Champions League and League trophy because they are highest trophies in Club football Local and in Europe

maybe you should look up the meaning of bias

Arabiandude:

Wetin this mumu they talk?
Abeg go take your meds if you don they join Idenna dey sniff cocaine

have suspecting the bolded but thanks for your confirmation .


Chai . My fellow Igbo man

Edopesin:


Who is talking about Europa league here?
I specifically asked about Champions League and League trophy because they are highest trophies in Club football Local and in Europe

maybe you should look up the meaning of bias

Lol, no, you merely handpicked the league which favored your gospel. That's what you did.

UEL is better than finishing second in UCL, no matter how you put it, so, don't cherry pick

barackodam:



Lol, no, you merely handpicked the league which favored your gospel. That's what you did.

UEL is better than finishing second in UCL, no matter how you put it, so, don't cherry pick

That's what you want to believe o

Champions League and League trophy are for the very best teams

sheyishemba:



what your definition for technicality
abegiii no dey put that word and Tammy together ohhh

Technical ability, first touch, one on one domination, Skill and dribbling, positional awareness, two feet proficiency, shooting and general unpredictability and yes you could add BLISTERING PACE.

With Sevilla qualifying,the probability of man u winning is 45%. BTW,the quality of football in EPL is fast becoming degusting.

Danielnino00:


So going by your logic, Tammy had a better season than Mbappe,Neymar,Icardi,Ben Yadder,etc and all those who play in France abi?
He had a better season than Haaland,Lewandowski, Sancho,etc because they play in a league rated lower than the premier league abi?
It's alright..

No l did not say that.

But when we look at Mbappe he scored 18 goals from 20 games. Neymar 15 games 13 goals. Then Victor 27 games and 13 goals. It is very obvious they are on a different level.

You are just being mischievously contentious.

komekn:


Technical ability, first touch, one on one domination, Skill and dribbling, positional awareness, two feet proficiency, shooting and general unpredictability and yes you could add BLISTERING PACE.

So Osimehn doesn't possess those qualities too abi? Now,if this is coming from another moniker against Tammy,you will be shouting Prejudice yen yen yen.

Edopesin:


Tammy Abraham is not a team player but he has better Pass Success and has more goals in less minutes and also coming from the bench 9 times

While Osimhen has better shots per game which is understandable considering the teams he plays against and slightly better in aerial duals

So...?

The aerial duels is still assumptive if taken in context.

How many times do you see Chelsea launching the ball in the air. The ball is predominantly on the ground.

Next context Lille often play the ball in the air over the defenders for Victor Osimhen to run in behind the defenders. It works in French league one, because thier defenders are not as fast as EPL defenders.

If you look at Burnley they score a lot of headers and they win a lot of aerial duels because that's their game plan. How many times will you see city giving aerial balls with theit short forward players. Nonetheless, very short Raheem still scored 20 goals in the EPL.

mostob:
So Osimehn doesn't possess those qualities too abi? Now,if this is coming from another moniker against Tammy,you will be shouting Prejudice yen yen yen.

The context is comparison, and it's the degree comparative proficiency. Nobody said he does not but the degree to which he does. The dribbling of Pépé is not the same as Kalu, it very simple comparison

Taking each of these particular individual player attributes, tell me one in which or several that Victor Osimhen is better than or exceeds Tega with. That's the QUESTION ❓ ❓ ❓

In your opinion.

mostob:
With Sevilla qualifying,the probability of man u winning is 45%.
BTW,the quality of football in EPL is fast becoming degusting.

Don’t be surprised united will park the bus and wait for a chance for pk so Bruno penaldes will convert

komekn:


There is limited quality in Lille, they have nobody to substitute him for. As a consequence he cannot be substituted.

There next best Striker is a retiree from the EPL who could no longer cut it and that's about 3/4 years ago.

You've just reiterated my point, big man.

mostob:
With Sevilla qualifying,the probability of man u winning is 45%.
BTW,the quality of football in EPL is fast becoming degusting.

Just because wolves packed bus?

we all know that is how they play from the get go

barackodam:



Yes, yes, yes.

I understand now. He will play for PAOK against Besiktas, help PAOK qualify for UCL, then deny Besiktas UCL, and maybe UEL.

Then go to Besiktas to play only domestic comps

Yes, I understand now

Exactly, a catch-22.

QED! no need for too much shalaye. By God's grace we will see how the next season is going to progress so the debate can be put to rest.

however knowing how our usual suspects think if it goes against them they will shift goal posts again and say they were referring to that time period.

Danielnino00:


U have said it all jare.

Tammy has done well this season.. same with Osimhen...
But when u compare their all round play,Osimhen is clearly better..
Some people don't want to admit that... All they care about is that we hate Tammy because he rejected us.. Nonsense!


Next season will be very interesting... Tammy will be up against one of the current best striker in the world for competition.. will he be able to retain a starting shirt?
Osimhen will be moving to a bigger club in a better league...would he be able to withstand the pressure and deliver what's expected of him?

We will see. ..

komekn:


The aerial duels is still assumptive if taken in context.

How many times do you see Chelsea launching the ball in the air. The ball is predominantly on the ground.

Next context Lille often play the ball in the air over the defenders for Victor Osimhen to run in behind the defenders. It works in French league one, because thier defenders are not as fast as EPL defenders.

If you look at Burnley they score a lot of headers and they win a lot of aerial duels because that's their game plan. How many times will you see city giving aerial balls with theit short forward players. Nonetheless, very short Raheem still scored 20 goals in the EPL.

Of course. To preach your agenda, it doesn't work in the EPL.

And in the next paragraph where you admitted it works, you said "because it's their gameplan"


So, aerial ball is not Lille's gameplay, abi?

It's only Burnley's

That's right....