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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:11am On Aug 12, 2020
chrisooblog:
QED! no need for too much shalaye. By God's grace we will see how the next season is going to progress so the debate can be put to rest.

however knowing how our usual suspects think if it goes against them they will shift goal posts again and say they were referring to that time period.


There will be no much debate as next season is clear

Werner will be first choice striker and osimhen will be first choice striker at Napoli so I am sure Abraham will not get much game time

All I am saying is Tammy have had a good season currently .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by barackodam: 10:14am On Aug 12, 2020
Edopesin:


That's what you want to believe o

Champions League and League trophy are for the very best teams


Why then do Europa winners get automatic ticket to the next UCL? undecided
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:18am On Aug 12, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
Well done Danny. The truth is the truth. Tammy is good and had a very decent season but in comparison with Osimhen, I am afraid the truth cannot be altered. Osimhen takes it. Osimhen is just the better well rounded striker between the two. Debating it is b'cos agenda must try agendicate. grin (Thanks again Sir Chrisooblog wink )

Now, one particular thing that bugs me about Tammy from the stats representation you dropped is how he is so tall and doesn't turn it into a major weapon. Standing at 1.90m mehn... You should be using that as part of your major weapons to disturb opposing teams. If Tammy can "up" his aerial prowess, he will be close enough to being a beast. Right now, he is just not there. Osimhen at 1.86m trumps him aerially and is already a young monster against opposing sides. Osimhen strikes fear into defences with his pressing, aerial prowess, speed, aggresiveness and more. Osimhen is also technically astute. Tammy is technical too but needs to work on maximising his height advantage.



Manchester City does not have aerial prowess, why because they keep the ball on the ground and have the technicians too dominate any team filled with 7 ft footballer.

Chelsea is not the same but they don't play a game based on aerial prowess. Lille on the other hand continously drop the ball behind defenders for Victor to run on too.

That tactic will not work in the EPL in the much weaker French league a very big yes. Burnley play a strategy that requires them to have the ball in the air, and as such score more headed goals. Indeed they use the strategy of headers to control the midfield.

Tega Abrahams is very tall and most times jumps into the air and controls the ball with his chest getting more control indeed he is so good at it he often uses chest control to pass the ball. I dont think Victor can do that.

Victor is not overly technical, his skill set is based primarily on pace and aggression, good positioning in the box, anticipation as well.as finishing. Attributes that will work in French league but not in the EPL. His one on one dominance is based on pace not skill.

Indeed the EPL is evolving and moving away from the kick and rush ball over the top approach.

Finally, that aggression will work in the French league that's not so intense and physical. He is not going to scare any defender in the EPL nobody is going to be scared of him. He is not a Drogba, or a Costa or a Lukaku. He will have to use something else, what that is, l don't know.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 10:22am On Aug 12, 2020
barackodam:



Why then do Europa winners get automatic ticket to the next UCL? undecided

All these bends and turns

Did I say Europa League should not be taken seriously?

League trophy and UCL are for the very best teams finito, If you don't agree then we can have a conversation
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 10:32am On Aug 12, 2020
Un15 Coach Danladi Nasidi passed away this morning
Shocking!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 10:50am On Aug 12, 2020
komekn:


The context is comparison, and it's the degree comparative proficiency. Nobody said he does not but the degree to which he does. The dribbling of Pépé is not the same as Kalu, it very simple comparison

Taking each of these particular individual player attributes, tell me one in which or several that Victor Osimhen is better than or exceeds Tega with. That's the QUESTION ❓ ❓ ❓

In your opinion.

He is not better than Osimhen. Period!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 10:51am On Aug 12, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Don’t be surprised united will park the bus and wait for a chance for pk so Bruno penaldes will convert
lolz. . .na their way.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 10:57am On Aug 12, 2020
timay:


Just because wolves packed bus?

we all know that is how they play from the get go
The match is not just about tactics,it has to do with mental strength also. You see,As arsenal is to FA cup so is Sevilla to UEL.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Olulong(m): 11:04am On Aug 12, 2020
Milan interested in Dennis. According to reports he was in Cannes to negotiate with the representative of an interested club. However the club wasn't named.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 11:10am On Aug 12, 2020
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 11:15am On Aug 12, 2020
Tammy will have game time. so we will see how good he is. abi does it make sense to drop your highest goal scorer in the league for the new season?
andrewbaba44:


There will be no much debate as next season is clear

Werner will be first choice striker and osimhen will be first choice striker at Napoli so I am sure Abraham will not get much game time

All I am saying is Tammy have had a good season currently .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrLikita12(f): 11:19am On Aug 12, 2020
Edopesin:

Un15 Coach Danladi Nasidi passed away this morning

Shocking!

May his soul Rest in peace

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 11:21am On Aug 12, 2020
TheLoneCitizen:


Ogenyi Onazi in advanced talks to join Serbian champions Crvena Zvezda also called Red Star Belgrade. His contract expires in 15 days, after which he'll become a free agent.

According to monda.ba, Red Star have opted out of talks with Onazi, they don't see him as a priority signing. Onazi is now likely to remain in Turkey.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 11:23am On Aug 12, 2020
komekn:


Manchester City does not have aerial prowess, why because they keep the ball on the ground and have the technicians too dominate any team filled with 7 ft footballer.

Chelsea is not the same but they don't play a game based on aerial prowess. Lille on the other hand continously drop the ball behind defenders for Victor to run on too.

That tactic will not work in the EPL in the much weaker French league a very big yes. Burnley play a strategy that requires them to have the ball in the air, and as such score more headed goals. Indeed they use the strategy of headers to control the midfield.

Tega Abrahams is very tall and most times jumps into the air and controls the ball with his chest getting more control indeed he is so good at it he often uses chest control to pass the ball. I dont think Victor can do that.

Victor is not overly technical, his skill set is based primarily on pace and aggression, good positioning in the box, anticipation as well.as finishing. Attributes that will work in French league but not in the EPL. His one on one dominance is based on pace not skill.

Indeed the EPL is evolving and moving away from the kick and rush ball over the top approach.

Finally, that aggression will work in the French league that's not so intense and physical. He is not going to scare any defender in the EPL nobody is going to be scared of him. He is not a Drogba, or a Costa or a Lukaku. He will have to use something else, what that is, l don't know.


I laugh in Lukaku, you always talk like you are the only one who watches the EPL

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:25am On Aug 12, 2020
chrisooblog:
Tammy will have game time. so we will see how good he is. abi does it make sense to drop your highest goal scorer in the league for the new season?

Which yeye game time when it’s clear that Werner will bench him

Timo Werner will be a starter at better teams let alone Chelsea

As far as you are not suarez lewa benzema and some few others timo Werner will bench you
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 11:28am On Aug 12, 2020
TheLoneCitizen:
Hajduk Split have put Nigerian forward, Samuel Eduok on the transfer market. The player enjoyed his most prolific season in his career having scored 11 goals and 4 assists in 20 starts.

Eduok is on a heavy salary that Split want to get rid of. He has been accused by fans of showing poor commitment and selecting matches to feature in.
The left-footed for ward's quality is undoubted as he can play anywhere across the frontline and is known for being a free-kick specialist and ability to shoot from outside the box.

If Eduok moves, he will be continuing his trend of not spending more than one season in a club since moving to Europe.

Turkish portal Takagazete are reporting that, Rizespor are interested in Samuel Eduok.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 11:29am On Aug 12, 2020
Edopesin:

Un15 Coach Danladi Nasidi passed away this morning

Shocking!
cry May his soul RIP

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:32am On Aug 12, 2020
komekn:


Technical ability, first touch, one on one domination, Skill and dribbling, positional awareness, two feet proficiency, shooting and general unpredictability and yes you could add BLISTERING PACE.


Wait is this same Tammy thats playing for Chelsea grin
His first touch is bang average
One on one domination
There is nothing dominating bout his one on one it 50 50
Skills and dribble do you know The meaning of skills we are talking rabona turn feint,scissor kicks ,overhead kicks et al Tammy has never done all this in his entire career
Two feet proficiency I hope you know the meaning of proficiency there is nothing proficient about his foot he is a just a right footed player desser is more proficient than Tammy he has scored a lot of goals with his left foot
His shooting is bang average too he is just an high budget nacho put nacho in Chelsea and see if Tammy will outshore him yh he has pace but his physicality is nothing to write about so his pace is damn useless osihmen is pacy and has strong physicality too.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 12:02pm On Aug 12, 2020
ahn ahn but he's "argably the best young striker in the world" na!

play aside he will still have some good game time. for one he's an English international so they will try and fit him in here and there but if he doesn't take his chances well ...
andrewbaba44:


Which yeye game time when it’s clear that Werner will bench him

Timo Werner will be a starter at better teams let alone Chelsea

As far as you are not suarez lewa benzema and some few others timo Werner will bench you
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:04pm On Aug 12, 2020
chrisooblog:
ahn ahn but he's "argably the best young striker in the world" na!

play aside he will still have some good game time. for one he's an English international so they will try and fit him in here and there but if he doesn't take his chances well ...

Lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 12:13pm On Aug 12, 2020
Barcelona say an unnamed squad member has tested positive for Covid-19

it cannot be Messi
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 12:16pm On Aug 12, 2020
barackodam:



Why then do Europa winners get automatic ticket to the next UCL? undecided
Its just an added prize/benefit to the trophy.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 12:26pm On Aug 12, 2020
very right footed. just finished watching all his goals over 70% scored with his right. good first touch but other than that can't see any excellent technique komekn is talking about. honestly he should try making all these claims on the Chelsea thread. na that time he go know say him never collect insult from this place grin

sheyishemba:



Wait is this same Tammy thats playing for Chelsea grin
His first touch is bang average
One on one domination
There is nothing dominating bout his one on one it 50 50
Skills and dribble do you know The meaning of skills we are talking rabona turn feint,scissor kicks ,overhead kicks et al Tammy has never done all this in his entire career
Two feet proficiency I hope you know the meaning of proficiency there is nothing proficient about his foot he is a just a right footed player desser is more proficient than Tammy he has scored a lot of goals with his left foot
His shooting is bang average too he is just an high budget nacho put nacho in Chelsea and see if Tammy will outshore him yh he has pace but his physicality is nothing to write about so his pace is damn useless osihmen is pacy and has strong physicality too.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 12:58pm On Aug 12, 2020
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Neobulletzz(m): 1:11pm On Aug 12, 2020
Edopesin:
Barcelona say an unnamed squad member has tested positive for Covid-19

it cannot be Messi
Na Messi grin grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:23pm On Aug 12, 2020
Why bringing in Man City? Listen, Man City is a far better ball playing side than Chelsea will ever be. That's fact. They don't have to use aerials always but they do use it occasionally. Most of their crosses are not high balls but balls aimed at some short level above the ground and below the trunk/head level of their forward players and most are executed by De Bruyne in such an attacking approach. Now I do not refer to corners, freekicks or any other deadball situation. I refer to crosses made in actual gameplays.

Chelsea on the other hand uses aerials more than Man city does. They mix it up with playing through their creative wingers or through the middle but aerials is definitely a part of their game especially with a tall Tammy on the field but he just doesn't assert himself enough aerially to make them count. His aerial stats per 90 prove that without debate.




Now to the rest of your epistle OBVIOUSLY LYING ABOUT THE TECHNICALITY OF OSIMHEN AND "his inability to do magic with his chest" from a high ball.... I have just the clip to debunk your claims. There are many clips on youtube eager to refresh your memory or give you new memories grin As I know you didn't watch Osimhen enough last season. Your statements show me that you didn't watch enough of Osimhen in Ligue 1 at all!! At all!!!!!




Here you go... wink

Watch from 3:20 in the clip below.

Also, watch from 4:20 in the clip below.


Excellent chest and ball controls and he didn't lose the ball.

There are many instances of him using his chest to great effect in gameplays but for time sake these two examples will do.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnE3AABy7DE


And talking about Osimhen's Aggression and power. Wow. I see you downplay it too and say it won't come in handy in the Obviously physically intense EPL. Hahahahaha.. I laugh. I have nothing to say to that b'cos we know it is just bollocks you typed.

And you say Osimhen's one-on-one situation with opposing teams is based on "only" pace? Lol... Just see that video above and see how ignorant this sounds. Osimhen got good ball control. Very decent ball control and he stays on his feet despite under huge pressure.

I have watched more than enough of both Tammy and Osimhen to see the attributes both posses and what their strengths are. But you obviously have limited plus amnesiac knowledge of Osimhen. You watched Tammy all season and even trying to ascribe some attributes to him that are simply not there while you watched little of Osimhen and are here downplaying attributes he has that you know nothing about.


You know Komekn, you don't surprise me. And I don't expect what I have just shown you in the clip to change your mind AT ALL. Your mind already dey "biasedly" fixed on wetin your mind dey "biasedly" fixed on. Simple.

But I will say this... You claim to be a Super Eagles fan but you also forgot how Osimhen controlled the high cross pass from Awaziem to beautifully set up Chukwueze in our last competitive game against Lesotho (Check 3:56 of the video above). Mehn, if you can call Osimhen a poor technical player and claim to have watched that Lesotho game where his technical skills/abilities were obviously on show for all to see then it shows you always have amnesia when it comes to our Naija lads especially the indigenous born lads. But for Naija-foreign born lads like Tammy, Solanke, Tomori and co, you will always remember even the skills they showed at St.George park during three lions training even when they simply trained in Isolation. You ehn.... You be comic relief. Your ways no pure for here... Lol... But you are still welcome. Adios Sir Kom. cool


komekn:


Manchester City does not have aerial prowess, why because they keep the ball on the ground and have the technicians too dominate any team filled with 7 ft footballer.

Chelsea is not the same but they don't play a game based on aerial prowess. Lille on the other hand continously drop the ball behind defenders for Victor to run on too.

That tactic will not work in the EPL in the much weaker French league a very big yes. Burnley play a strategy that requires them to have the ball in the air, and as such score more headed goals. Indeed they use the strategy of headers to control the midfield.

Tega Abrahams is very tall and most times jumps into the air and controls the ball with his chest getting more control indeed he is so good at it he often uses chest control to pass the ball. I dont think Victor can do that.

Victor is not overly technical, his skill set is based primarily on pace and aggression, good positioning in the box, anticipation as well.as finishing. Attributes that will work in French league but not in the EPL. His one on one dominance is based on pace not skill.

Indeed the EPL is evolving and moving away from the kick and rush ball over the top approach.

Finally, that aggression will work in the French league that's not so intense and physical. He is not going to scare any defender in the EPL nobody is going to be scared of him. He is not a Drogba, or a Costa or a Lukaku. He will have to use something else, what that is, l don't know.


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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:42pm On Aug 12, 2020
Naija players expected/likely to be in action for their various clubsides across Europe today - August 12

Scottish Premiership - SPL

Joe Aribo, Leon Balogun, Calvin Bassey Ughelumba (Glasgow Rangers) vs St. Johnstone - Home game.


Swedish Allsvenskan

Moses Ogbu (Mjallby) Vs Djurgarden - Away game.

Innocent Bonke (Malmo FF) vs Örebro - Home game.


Slovakian Super Fortuna Liga

Abdul Zubairu, Ahmed Ghali, Reuben Yem, Philip Azango (AS Trencin) vs Zlaté Moravce - Home game.

Matthew Yakubu, GK (SKF Sered) vs Senica - Home game.


Latvian Virsliga

Chinonso Nnamdi Offor (RIGAS FS) vs FK Jelgava - Away game.

Miracle Chikezie Nwaorisa, Aliyu Yau Adam, Saminu Kwari Abdullahi, Lucky Onyebuchi Opara (Spartaks Jurmala) vs Valmiera FK - Home game.

Tolu Arokodare, Olaide Badmus (Valmiera FK) vs Spartaks Jurmala - Away game.

Alfa Abdullahi, Richard Emeka Friday, Dele Of Israel, Peter Court Ebiobowei, Henry Ukpa Effiong (FK Liepaja) vs FK Ventspils - Home game.

Dele Alampasu, Kazeem Ojo Aderounmu, Christian Dumte Pyagbara (FK Ventspils) vs FK Liepaja - Away game.


Club Friendlies

Kelvin Arase (Rapid Wien) vs SFC Opava











Bonus: From Africa

South African PSL

Daniel Akpeyi, GK (Kaizer Chiefs) vs Bidvest Wits - Home game.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by iamdynamite(m): 1:51pm On Aug 12, 2020
komekn:


Manchester City does not have aerial prowess, why because they keep the ball on the ground and have the technicians too dominate any team filled with 7 ft footballer.

Chelsea is not the same but they don't play a game based on aerial prowess. Lille on the other hand continously drop the ball behind defenders for Victor to run on too.

That tactic will not work in the EPL in the much weaker French league a very big yes. Burnley play a strategy that requires them to have the ball in the air, and as such score more headed goals. Indeed they use the strategy of headers to control the midfield.

Tega Abrahams is very tall and most times jumps into the air and controls the ball with his chest getting more control indeed he is so good at it he often uses chest control to pass the ball. I dont think Victor can do that.

Victor is not overly technical, his skill set is based primarily on pace and aggression, good positioning in the box, anticipation as well.as finishing. Attributes that will work in French league but not in the EPL. His one on one dominance is based on pace not skill.

Indeed the EPL is evolving and moving away from the kick and rush ball over the top approach.

Finally, that aggression will work in the French league that's not so intense and physical. He is not going to scare any defender in the EPL nobody is going to be scared of him. He is not a Drogba, or a Costa or a Lukaku. He will have to use something else, what that is, l don't know.


what you are saying in essence is that osihmen will flop in the epl....wow...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:59pm On Aug 12, 2020
chrisooblog:
very right footed. just finished watching all his goals over 70% scored with his right. good first touch but other than that can't see any excellent technique komekn is talking about. honestly he should try making all these claims on the Chelsea thread. na that time he go know say him never collect insult from this place grin



Let me help direct him so that his gospel on Tammy can continue to spread. He has a special knowledge on Tammy those folks on the Chelsea thread lack... grin

Komekn... Please kindly enter here in the link below... I wish you well cool grin


https://www.nairaland.com/920248/official-chelsea-fan-thread-2019

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 2:23pm On Aug 12, 2020
In other news, the Scottish government are threatening to suspend the SPL if any more covid-19 protocols are breached..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 2:33pm On Aug 12, 2020
chrisooblog:
very right footed. just finished watching all his goals over 70% scored with his right. good first touch but other than that can't see any excellent technique komekn is talking about. honestly he should try making all these claims on the Chelsea thread. na that time he go know say him never collect insult from this place grin


nothing spectacular about his touch go and watch the highlight skit of likes of messi neymar,Marcelo mesut ozil of 09/10 then you will understand what good touch means the people can control ball despite crazy pressure from other players.Tammy that weakling I no fi buy that Kain player for 20m euro put Tammy in Lille and let's see his performance he was even bang average for Swansea the nigga nah averaaageeeeeeee player.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by M7even(m): 3:03pm On Aug 12, 2020
Arabiandude:

Inter, 2.10 odd, 20k to win 42k... I won it today.
Don't worry, you see the way Sevilla outclassed and beat Roma? That's how they are also gonna outclassed and beat Wolves.

It's a one leg affair and a neutral venue, Traore will gas out before 60mins because Sevilla plays a higher and better pressing game.

You think wolves can beat Roma whom Sevilla manhandled with all the Dzeko, Kolarov and others? This is Europe league and if they both don't meet, it's gonna be Inter vs Sevilla final.

Chai. So what about man u against Sevilla

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