skfa1:

U can try to apply, they might not check ur NI. I dont think they have access to check individual NI because information cannot be shared with the third party based on NI agreement, thats why home office will always request for payslip if u are a student but im not sure this days maybe they can now share it.

demowo:

So I've got myself in a bit of an awkward situation and need some advice if anyone can help!

I worked in the UK on a working holiday visa, and as my 12 months of work were up I would like to applied for and obtained a student visa for my post gradute studies. However, due to my silliness (no other excuse really) . As a result, I continued to work and remain in the country on my working holiday visa, for another 1 months. I was still able to be in the country as my working holiday visa doesnt expire until August 09.

I have now left the UK and am back in Nigeria but I desperately want to return to start My studies.
I have all the required doucment for the tier 4 point based system, but to I have to provide details of previous visas and supply my National INsurance number.

Does anyone know what happens if they realise that you have worked for longer than 12 months on the working holiday visa? In my case it's a sure thing they're going to find out if I continue my application as I have to give them all my work experience details and NI number. Do they really track your work details and all.

Can anyone recommend what to do? bearing in mind i have paid full school fees and i have maintainace money in a uk bank account in my name to the tune of £5400, which is required for outer london

Should I apply and hope for the best, or give up as a lost cause and go cause?

Thanks!

demowo:

@ busy body, i didnt over stay in uk, i only worked for 4 weeks more than than the 12 month allow.

demowo:

what i wanted to know is do they cheak NI/ work history each time a new application is made.

I asked cause my sis was on working holiday visa also and she had it changed to Hsmp, she claimed to have been working in Nigeria, but the same period, she was in uk and she was paying Ni if they had cheaked the Ni contribution, it would have show that the period of her lagos pay slip was the same with Ni payment.

so wanted to Know how much people her refused visa based on general grounds. I wont be lieing on my application, but i intend to avoid the case of how long i worked.

aysometin:

@ Busybody,
You are getting it all wrong, she wants to know if the embassy can check information on her NI not the bank.

I dont think they would go that far to start checking her NI contribution, they would probably just call up her employers to check if she actually worked there.

SUKKIE:

Boss, my deduction from ur post is that u over stayed . . .

Busy_body:



Excuse me I do not have a problem with assimilation and comprehension of English Language, so I perfectly understand what the OP is after, thank you And what I said was e.g meaning for example, before I introduced the bank scenario into the equation, Madam I Too Sabi

Busy_body:



You what You are having a giraffe right [b]Even a common frontline staff at any Government e.g Jobcentre, Housing, etc, has every right to call your bank on the phone to request for details of your last transaction and the bank has to oblige immediately[/b], heck they can even call your school, your GP, or anywhere you have a record for that matter, and you are here claiming UKBA has no right to call the DWP or HMRC to request for anyone's NI detail, i no fit shout

You are 100% wrong in that assertion, no bank will release such information, government dept or not, without the express written authorisation of the account holder or a court order.

aysometin:

Who is fighting with you?? baby!!! I only pointed out what I noticed
You are never positive in your posts and if you think I would exchange words here with you, u must be dreaming, I know u well, thats what you expect all the time

VOR:


You are 100% wrong in that assertion, no bank will release such information, government dept or not, without the express written authorisation of the account holder or a court order.

demowo:

hello Guys,

I just wanted to let u guys know, i applied for my visa and i just got it,  i did wot the guys said and i got it.  thanks to kadman, sukkie  and the rest of the guys.

@ busy body, u need to quit been so negative,  most of your posts are negative.

Two Postgraduate students from the University of Greenwich were deported this summer by UKBA for working more than 20 hours during the holiday period, because according to the immigration rules, they had still not submitted their dissertation, so had no right to undertake full-time employment, even though they had finished their studies and it was the holiday period whereby all international students could work full-time


Now how did UKBA find out the hours worked if not through the NI contribution which was deemed too high for a part-timer? Abeg free me jare

Two Postgraduate students from the University of Greenwich were deported this summer by UKBA for working more than 20 hours during the holiday period, because according to the immigration rules, they had still not submitted their dissertation, so had no right to undertake full-time employment, even though they had finished their studies and it was the holiday period whereby all international students could work full-time

chyemma:

Hi Demowo congrats on your visa issuance,
Pls I would like to discuss some confidentail issues with you and to the house any one who will please give me details of how I can get a working holiday visa to the UK.
Your kind responses will be highly appreciated.

Thanks.

back2back:

Evidence?

Busy_body:


Government Departments are not subjected to the Data Protection Act rule when faced with a "need to know" situation, because the only obvious reasons these information have been requested for, is to discharge their function under the Immigration Act or whatever Act the person requesting the info is calling for, which is done mainly to detect crime or fraud. All they have to be mindful of is the principles regarding privacy and disclosure.


They cannot be "done" for unlawful obtaining of personal data under Section 55 of the Data Protection Act, neither are they gonna be prosecuted and penalised under section 60 of the same Act because these sensitive datas have been requested for, in the interest of the public to prevent fraud and crime.

Busy_body:



Yes you got off the hook now, but was it "permanent residency" you were granted, what reassurance do you have that this issue would not rear up its ugly head again e.g when you want to apply for extension of visa or permanent stay? Or do you think because you are the one who opened the thread, other people cannot gain from it too? So everyone that seeks advise should be given a pat on the back and told to go forth and apply without due dilligence?