[size=13pt]Amazingly. . .    , I once heard a Christian say as a defense to this specific verse/argument,((( “jesus reveals himself.”))) but all her sharing was totally senseless and of no help in learning .

It's daft the way some people think this is the literal 'word of god'. Sure there are some good moral lessons, if you pick and choose, but almost any book has a few moral messages and useful lessons you can extract.


i guest that help you think twice ?[/size]

Ogaga

Ok if you dont believe in JESUS CHRIST do you believe in Islam and mohammed?

Pls answer the question.

from your claim since you said satan= jesus. y dont you accept him then and acknowledge is good works for u since it will not make any difference

Horus:

bla bla bla sheep

Now HEAR the REAL WORD

Now for a long season Israel hath been without the true God, and without a teaching priest, and without law. 2 Chronicles 15:3

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. John 17:3

And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. 1 John 5:20

Hahaha. Don't mind them mr ogaga, jesus reveals himself. I like the compilation

Ogaga4Luv:

[ . .[/sup]The truth is, .

He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.  John 3:33

But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation Jeremiah 10:10

Is only the ignorant that see while sleeping! Quote me! [i]Ogaga4Luv you're the only beast without four legs oh mine lowly lifted very very low

Shut up jare

abuzola have ever had a personla relationship or experience God's love

Abuzola:

Shut up jare

Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or unclothedness, or peril, or sword? Romans 8:35

@poster, reading from verse isaiah 14:1


1 The LORD will have compassion on Jacob;once again he will choose Israel and will settle them in their own land.
      Aliens will join them and unite with the house of Jacob.,

2 Nations will take them and bring them to their own place. And the house of Israel will possess the nations
      as menservants and maidservants in the LORD's land They will make captives of their captors
      and rule over their oppressors.

3 On the day the LORD gives you relief from suffering and turmoil and cruel bondage, 4 you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon:How the oppressor has come to an end! How his fury [a] has ended!

5 The LORD has broken the rod of the wicked,the scepter of the rulers,

6 which in anger struck down peoples with unceasing blows,and in fury subdued nations with relentless aggression.

7 All the lands are at rest and at peace;they break into singing.

8 Even the pine trees and the cedars of Lebanon exult over you and say,"Now that you have been laid low,
      no woodsman comes to cut us down."

9 The grave below is all astir to meet you at your coming;[b]it rouses the spirits of the departed to greet you—
    all those who were leaders in the world; it makes them rise from their thrones—all those who were kings over the nations.

10 They will all respond,they will say to you, "You also have become weak, as we are;you have become like us."

11 All your pomp has been brought down to the grave,along with the noise of your harps; maggots are spread out beneath you
      and worms cover you.

12 How you have fallen from heaven,O morning star, son of the dawn!You have been cast down to the earth,
      you who once laid low the nations!

13 You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God;
      I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. [c]

14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High."

15 But you are brought down to the grave,to the depths of the pit.
16 Those who see you stare at you,they ponder your fate:"Is this the man who shook the earth and made kingdoms tremble,


Babylon once stood and made others think it can never go down, Babylon enslaved the house of Jacob(Israel), Isaiah prophesied the fall of Babylon from  status of being greater than other nations(heaven) to the lowest of the low, the morning star(light bearer),[b] Babylon once stood as the citadel of knowledge in the world, light means knowledge in this case, meaning they lost that status

Jesus is the word of God John 1:1, word means Logos in Greek which means reason, intellect, knowledge  
, which also mean Light, In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men,  John 1:4, That was the true Light [/b]which gives light to every man coming into the world, John 1:9

Clearly there was a lot of lights and babylon was one of them, they were all put off, He (Jesus) is the true light that shines for ever

[b]note that the morning star in Isaiah is with a small 'm', while that in revelations has a capital 'M', it just tells you they were talking about two different persons.

And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, Revelation 1:5

@poster, "I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright Bright and morning starMorning Star." (Revelation 22:16)

where did you get your bible from?

does God and god mean the same, or does Spirit and spirit, how can morning star(Isaiah 14:12) be the same as Morning Star(revelations 22:16)

Ogaga4Luv:

"Jesus' last words on the cross, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" hardly seem like the words of a man who planned it that way. It doesn't take ^{Ogaga Onowighose} to figure there is something wrong here. 

Psalm 1:1

WELL Ogaga hmmn,
Dnt hav much to say bt if u feel my God is fake ask ur self wat about the false 1 u serve. U dnt go around spreading findings u r nt sure about, u can jst ask nt goin around sayin things. I prayd 4 u last nite i hope u change cuz my FATHER in heaven luvs u

[size=14pt]Rejoice evermore. Pray without ceasing. In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you. [/size] 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18

Therefore they say unto God, Depart from us; for we desire not the knowledge of thy ways. Job 21:14

Shall any teach God knowledge? seeing he judgeth those that are high. Job 21:22

[size=13pt]Who cares about all the lies Jesus say according to the bible , all my concern is to point them out one by one and make sure i be anti christ until the fini of my generation. . . [/size]

@ Topic

What is all this ruckus over a non existent made up falsehood of a white boy messiah?, The New testament authors plagiarized texts from the original Testament infused it with religious dogma and Greco roman mythology stolen from the ancient Babylonians and Egyptians and came up with this intoxicating concoction called the New testament. Which millions now mindlessly follow.

How can the son of Zeus(EL) have anything to do with David? This Jesus was supposedly conceived through the union of a spirit and a Human, This would mean that he was simply not human period. Where did this spirit get the invisible sperm that carried David's genes for this impostor to be called the root & off spring of David? I know you brain washed Christians would now point to Mary his so called mother being a descendant of David, so let me address that:

Luke 3:23   Now Jesus Himself began His ministry at about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, the son of Heli (that is Joseph son in-law of Eli, Eli or Heli being mary or Miriam’s father)

Luke 3:24   the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Janna, the son of Joseph, ……………………………

Luke 3:31   the son of Melea, the son of Menan, the son of Mattathah, the son of Nathan, the son of David,

[b]As it shows in Luke 3:31 Miriam’s lineage through Eli (Heli) is traced back to Nathan who was Solomon’s brother and Dawad’s son (1Ch 3:5), and the above scriptures show from 1 chron 28:5-6  that YAHAWAH chose Solomon as His anointed to succeed Dawad not Nathan. So this disqualifies Jesus from sitting on YAHAWAH’S Throne over Yis-ra-yl forever.


1Ch 28:4   "However YAHAWAH The Father of Yisrayl chose me (Dawad) above all the house of my father to be king over Yisrayl forever, for HE has chosen Yahadah to be the Ruler. And of the house of Yahadah, the house of my father, and among the sons of my father, He was pleased with me to make me king over all Yisrayl.

1Ch 3:5   And these were born to him (Dawad) in Yerusalem: Shimea, Shobab, Nathan, and Solomon--four by Bathshua the daughter of Ammiyl.

1Ch 28:5   "And of all my sons (for YAHAWAH has given me many sons) He has chosen my son Solomon to sit on the Throne of the kingdom of YAHAWAH over Yisrayl.




Matthew 1 also records Jesus’s genealogy through Joseph, but this cannot not be valid because of Christianity’s doctrine of the Immaculate Conception, that is Miriam’s conception by a so called holy ghost and not Yahseph her husband.

Why would the Christian God take a man's wife and impregnate her without her husband's consent, This would be considered an act of rape in the so called Old testament(The Original Testament)!!

Ghosts don’t carry physical sperm to impregnate women with. This flies in the face of the Creator’s law of child birth for all humans on the earth. All children born on this earth come by the union of a father and mother, this is the only way of birth authorized and sanctioned by Abba YAHAWAH !!!!, HE would be breaking His own Law of Creation if He allowed otherwise. Remember this prophecy

Deu 18:18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him

Deut17:15", You may appoint a king over you, whom YAHAWAH your Father shall choose: one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you

Did you get that? Let me explain. The key here is “like you from among their brethren, and one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you”.  Not a half spirit half man

From Deut 17:15 & 18:18 Abba YAHAWAH says this prophet and king shall be like Masha(Moses,Musa) a Priest, Leader, and King  appointed by YAHAWAH to rule over His people. That’s right Masha(Moses,Musa) was a Levite priest and also was king in Yis-ra-yl

Deu 33:5 And He(Masha(Moses,Musa)) was King in Yahshurun, When the leaders of the people were gathered, All the tribes of Yis-ra-yl together.

Masha(Moses,Musa) was born of a human father and mother from the Tribe of Lewi(Levi):

Exd 2:1   AND a man of the house of Levi went and took as wife a daughter of Levi.

Exd 2:2   So the woman conceived and bore a son. And when she saw that he was a beautiful child, she hid him three months.

Exd 2:10   And the child grew, and she brought him to Pharaoh's daughter, and he became her son. So she called his name Masha(Moses,Musa) saying, "Because I drew him out of the water."

Num 26:59  The name of Amram's wife was Yochebed the daughter of Levi, who was born to Levi in Egypt; and to Amram she bore Aharon and Masha(Moses,Musa) and their sister Miriam.

Exd 2:11   Now it came to pass in those days, when Masha(Moses,Musa) was grown, that he went out to his brethren and looked at their burdens. And he saw an Egyptian beating a Hebrew, one of his brethren.

And like Masha(Moses,Musa), this king and prophet would be born of a father and mother like all the rest of us all born of parents not ghosts or spirits !!!!  And like Masha(Moses,Musa), He would come from among his brethren.

Yer(Jer) 30:21   Their Leader will be one of their own; their Ruler will arise from among them. I will bring him near and he will come close to me, for who is he who will devote himself to be close to Me?’ declares YAHAWAH

1Ch 28:4   "However YAHAWAH The Father of Yisrayl chose me (Dawad) above all the house of my father to be king over YISRAYL FOREVER, for He has chosen Yahadah to be the ruler. And of the house of Yahadah, the house of my father, and among the sons of my father, He was pleased with me to make me king over all Yisrayl.

[b]Now which part of FOREVER DOES THIS WORLD NOT UNDERSTAND? KING DAWAD IS TO BE KING IN YISRAYL FOREVER AFTER ABBA YAHAWAH RAISES HIM UP FROM HIS GRAVE !

Hos 3:5   Afterward the children of Yisrayl shall return and seek YAHAWAH  their FATHER and Dawad their king. And will Reverence YAHAWAH and His Righteousness in the latter days.

Yer(Jer) 30:9   But they shall serve YAHAWAH their Father, and Dawad their king, WHOM I WILL RAISE UP FOR THEM

Additional problems still remain, even if one would want to conclude that, through adoption the genealogy is adopted as well. We find that when Mattithyah traces the genealogical line of Joseph the adopted father of Jesus back to King Dawad, this line goes through Kings named Manasseh, Yahyakim and Yahyakin.

This is what Abba YAHAWAH said of Yahyakim “

Yer 22:18   Therefore thus says YAHAWAH concerning Yahyakim  the son of Yohsiyah, king of Yahadah:
"They shall not lament for him, saying, 'Alas, my brother!' or 'Alas, my sister!' They shall not lament for him, saying, 'Alas, master!' or 'Alas, his glory!'

Yer 22:19   He shall be buried with the burial of a donkey, dragged and cast out beyond the gates of Yerusalem.

Yer 36:30 Therefore thus says YAHAWAH concerning Yahyakim king of Yahadah: "He shall have no one to sit on the throne of Dawad, and his dead body shall be cast out to the heat of the day and the frost of the night

Yahyakim is cursed of YAHAWAH !!!!!! with no more kingly or Royal blessings from Abba YAHAWAH for his house, seed or descendants including Joseph adopted father of the so called Jesus of Nazareth a.k.a Ea-Zeus Christos



Another problem arises in Yeremyah(Jeremiah) 22:30, when the ancestor of Yahseph according to Mathityah named King Yahyakin or Yekonyah or Konyah, son of Yahyakim and his seed were also cursed by YAHAWAH, From which point on Abba revoked all blessings of HIS Throne over Yis-ra-yl until the future resurrection to come of the whole house of Yis-ra-yl (Ezk 37:1-14)

Yer 22:24   "As I live," says YAHAWAH, "though Konyah the son of Yahyakim, king of Yahadah, were the signet on My right hand, yet I would pluck you off;

Yer 22:25   "and I will give you into the hand of those who seek your life, and into the hand of those whose face you fear--the hand of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon and the hand of the Chaldeans.

Yer 22:26   "So I will cast you out, and your mother who bore you, into another country where you were not born; and there you shall die.

Yer 22:27   "But to the land to which they desire to return, there they shall not return.


Yer 22:28   "Is this man Konyah(Yahyakin) a despised, broken God--A vessel in which is no pleasure? Why are they cast out, he and his descendants, and cast into a land which they do not know?

Yer 22:29   O earth, earth, earth, Hear the word of YAHAWAH!

Yer 22:30   This is what YAHAWAH says

"Write this man as if childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days. For no man of his seed shall prosper sitting upon the throne of Dawad and ruling anymore in Yahadah."

WHY DID YAHAWAH PRONOUNCE THIS CURSE ON YEKONYAH AND ALL HIS DESCENDANTS?

This curse was placed on his house because he continued in the wicked way of his ancestors Solomon, Manesseh and all the wicked kings of Yahadah.

We see from this scripture in Yeremyah that any descendant of Yahyakin would be disqualified from ever being a Messianic candidate because of this curse; and therefore, if Christians insist upon making Yahshua or Jesus the legal adopted child of Yahseph, then it is obvious that Yahshua would be disqualified from even potentially being Ha Mashiyach because his adopted father Yahseph a descendant of Manasseh and Yahyakim was also under this curse.

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[size=13pt]You believe the Bible a book compiled from documents written decades, and in cases, centuries, after the deaths of the protagonists, which has been translated, re-translated, edited, censored, and had the language fudged to sound beautiful, then translated again, is still somehow the direct word of god. (Except the parts that you don’t actually want to live by, such as the command that you shall give anyone any of your possessions they ask for, and yea, give them more even than they ask.

Stop wasting your bible bubble verses on me, hope you know you're not the first person to read that no-sense book of confussion. . .?, i read it already.
You christians post comments on Satanist and Atheist/agnostic on the internet telling people they’re going to hell. because they refuse to take part in the insanity in practice.[/size]

[size=16pt]Ogaga4Luv, you are the VOMIT of Dogs! Abuzola and law prince are dogs.[/size]

[size=13pt]Maykelly. . . you just called me a "Vomit" so far you fail to realise the damage you're doing to yourself. . . I am a vormit of a dog then what are you?, infact woman ,honestly speaking i have great pity on you if really you're comfortable to continue in such state of Life. . .better change your ways.[/size]

Ogaga4Luv:

[size=13pt]Maykelly. . . you just called me a "Vomit" so far you fail to realise the damage you're doing to yourself. . . I am a vormit of a dog?, infact woman ,honestly speaking i have great pity on you if really you're comfortable to continue in such state of Life. . .better change your ways.[/size]

have you ever seen a mad man talking "when i find my head and i did not see, then i will deal with you" that's a statement of a dead man.

[size=13pt]"Jesus reveal himself. . . . . "

If someone were to come to you today and say, "I am God!", what would you do? Yes, you would immediately ask for proof. Of course you would. And you would not want goofy proof.You would want real, solid, tangible proof. No normal person, and I mean no one, would accept anything less than rock solid proof from a person who claims to be God.


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[size=16pt]Oga, sit down, dey wait for proof,  wen you die, u go ask your ancestors. just dey wait for proof- Bible go come land for your head gbim before you go believe u hear   [/size]

[size=13pt]Yes, Maykelly. . . i need PROOFS, i mean real proofs of your darling jesus and the so called imaginary guy twisted stories. . .but please dont give me any proof from your bible because that book is not trusth worthy to read . it doesn't make sense at all.
If the resurrection were true, then Jesus would be answering prayers as he promises in the Bible. He would appear when people pray to see him. The reason why he does not appear is simple: Jesus is deathand death forever. . God is imaginary. [/size]