Sirmuel1:



Guy, with that list, nobody go reach there oh

If only, the self-righteous, holier-than-thou, pharisee christians will believe with you.


Praise be to jesus, for the sake of the cross, I am saved. Not of my works, lest I should boast.

Reptyle:


Bottom line, if you are in SIN, rest assured you are hell bound.

There is no distinction between sins that get you heaven bound or those that get you hell bound.

If you end up in sin, you will go to hell regardless of the gravity of the sin.

Are you sinless perfect? NO, of course!

So you are included in being hell bound.

FIND YOURSELF GUILTY FIRST, BEFORE YOU FIND OTHERS!!!!

You know you are not sinless perfect, yet you clamour; sinless perfection=eternal life. Very heretic and hypocritical!!!

How does that give praise to the sufferings of jesus at the cross? Are they vain, or for fancy?

Amberon11:
Another gimmick of Satan to drag people to hell.

Even the demons confess that Jesus Christ is Lord and know of his righteousness. Why aren't they saved??

is the bolded a typo?

So when God becomes graceful and loving to people, it becomes a gimmick of satan?

You better mind what you say!!!

Makarous:
. Lol. Correct. That was just piety at its peak. He should study the book of Romans well. If our righteousness was by our works, then, d work of calvary has been watered down!

EXACTLY!

It is the devil's job to preach gospels that waters down the work of the cross.

GOD PUNISH THE DEVIL!!!

samsam2019:
real proof! not some made up shower of sh1t.
Abegi

Silently in your corner ' Just say this prayer 'People say you really exist JEHOVAH'.. I need a manifestation/truth of your existence and every thing about you!..If you sincerely want a real proof..you should do it with no doubt and be sincere too!

promise101:

Are you sinless perfect? NO, of course!

So you are included in being hell bound.

FIND YOURSELF GUILTY FIRST, BEFORE YOU FIND OTHERS!!!!

You know you are not sinless perfect, yet you clamour; sinless perfection=eternal life. Very heretic and hypocritical!!!

How does that give praise to the sufferings of jesus at the cross? Are they vain, or for fancy?

What are you on about my friend?

Etizz:



Can I get a proper explanation or meaning of righteousness?

PLEASE, THIS IS LONG, BUT READ ALL AS YOU NEED A PROPER EXPLANTION OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.


Therefore IT WAS also CREDITED TO HIM AS
RIGHTEOUSNESS. 23 Now not for his sake only was it written that it was credited to him, 24 but for our sake also, to whom it will be credited, as those who believe in Him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead, 25 He who was delivered over because of our
transgressions, and was raised because of our justification.


What Does "Credited" Mean?

One more question before we leave chapter four of this great letter to the Romans. It comes from verse 22: "Therefore, it [faith] was credited to him [Abraham] as righteousness." So it says that faith is counted as righteousness. We saw this in verse 3: "Abraham believed God and it [his believing] was credited to him as righteousness." And we saw it in verse 5b, "His [the one who believes in him who justifies the ungodly] faith is credited as righteousness." We saw it in verse 9b: "Faith was credited to Abraham as righteousness."


Now what does this mean? Does it mean that faith itself is the kind of righteousness we perform and God counts that as good enough to be our righteousness - or our part of the righteousness - in justification? Does he mean that justification, let's say, costs five million dollars and I can come up with one million dollars (namely, faith), so God mercifully says he will count my one million as five million and cancel the rest? That would make my faith the righteousness imputed to me - or a significant part of it. So justification would be God's
recognizing in me a righteousness that he put there and that he acknowledges and counts for what it really is. Is that what Paul means when he says, "faith is credited as righteousness"? Or is justification something very different - not God's seeing any righteousness in me, but his crediting to me his own righteousness in Christ through faith? And if so, what does it mean to say that faith is credited as righteousness?


And Why Does It Matter?

Before I answer, let me tell you why I am giving
an entire sermon to this question before we launch into chapter five, Lord willing, next week. First, it's because the phrase is so liable to misunderstanding: "Faith is credited as
righteousness" sounds like faith is recognized to
be righteousness. But I am persuaded that is not
what it means.

Second, because Paul spends so much time on this phrase from Genesis 15:6 -a whole chapter.
As if, to get this wrong would be to go wrong on
something very important. And that is true. Is your legal standing with God as righteous based on what he is or what you are? You may not see why this is very big, but it is big. On this hangs the fullness of the glory of God's grace in your justification, and on this hangs the fullness of the enjoyment of your peace in justification. And not only yours but all those you should bless with the gospel. So God's glory and your peace are at stake in this question.

"Imputation" - an Important Word to Understand
Third, because Ephesians 4:14 says the goal of my preaching ministry should be that you "are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine." I want you to be strong and stable and mature. In particular, I want you to know the doctrine of the imputation of God's righteousness in Christ. I know "imputation" is a big and unusual word. But this is the word that has been used for hundreds of years to describe the truth that God "imputes" his righteousness to us through faith because of Christ's obedience.

Why should you be denied what tens of thousands of strong Christians have been strengthened by for centuries - the "imputation" of God's righteousness in Christ? It's a glorious truth that will change your life if you see it and savor it for what it is.

"Imputation" is different from "impartation." God
does "impart" to us gifts and fruits of the Holy Spirit, so that we have them and they are in us
growing and they are ours. But all of that gracious impartation through the Spirit is built on an even more firm foundation, namely, imputation - the work of God outside of us: God's own righteousness, not imparted to us, but imputed to us. Credited to us, as Romans 4:6 and 11 say. Put to our account. Reckoned to be ours. I ask myself as a pastor, Why should the people of Bethlehem be denied the knowledge of this great doctrine that has sustained saints for centuries? Why should we cave in to the modern pragmatism that says doctrine is impractical? And I answer: we shouldn't.

Fourth, the experience of God's people through
the centuries has shown what a treasure this truth is in bringing people from the darkness of unbelief to the light of hope and joy in Christ. One example is John Bunyan, the writer of Pilgrim's Progress, who struggled terribly before he came to a settled faith in Christ. Here's what he wrote: One day as I was passing into the field . . . this sentence fell upon my soul. Thy righteousness is in heaven. And me thought, withal, I saw with the eyes of my soul Jesus Christ at God's right hand; there, I say, was my righteousness; so that wherever I was, or whatever I was doing, God could not say of me, he wants [lacks] my righteousness, for that was just before [in front of] him. I also saw, moreover, that it was not my good frame of heart that made my righteousness better, nor yet my bad frame that made my righteousness worse, for my righteousness was Jesus Christ himself, "The same yesterday, today and, and forever" ( Hebrews 13:.
Now did my chains fall off my legs indeed. I was
loosed from my afflictions and irons; my temptations also fled away; so that from that time those dreadful scriptures of God left off to trouble me; now went I also home rejoicing for the grace and love of God. (John Bunyan, Grace Abounding to the Chief of Sinners, [Hertfordshire: Evangelical Press, 1978, orig. 1666], pp. 90-91)


Perhaps the most pointed way I could put it would be this: I linger over this issue of the imputed righteousness of God in Christ because when I stand by your bed in the hour of your death, I want to be able to look down into your face and remind you of the most comforting words in all the world, and have you rejoice with solid Biblical understanding in what I mean when I say: "Remember, Christ is your righteousness. Christ is your righteousness. Your righteousness is in heaven. It's the same yesterday today and forever. It doesn't get better when your faith is strong. It doesn't get worse when your faith is weak. It is perfect. It is Christ. Look away from yourself. Rest in him. Lean on him."


And not only do I want you to cherish this for the
sake of your death, but also for the sake of your
evangelism and for the sake of missions. The gospel is the power of God unto salvation, Paul says in Romans 1:16-17, because in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith. I believe this refers to the gift of God's imputed righteousness that we receive by faith. Paul says that the gospel has power because this is what it reveals. This is what I want the Maninka people of Guinea to hear and understand and believe. And the Uzbeks and the Kazaks and the Sukumu and the Somali and your children and your parents and neighbors and
colleagues.


Does Paul Mean "Our Faith Is Our Righteousness?
So here is my answer to the question. No, when
Paul says "Faith is credited to us as righteousness," he does not mean that our faith is our righteousness, or any part of our justifying
righteousness. He means that faith is what unites us with Christ and all that God is for us in him. When God sees faith in Christ, he sees union with Christ. And when he sees union with Christ, he sees the righteousness of Christ as our righteousness. So faith connects us with Christ who is our righteousness and, in that sense, faith is counted as righteousness. Faith sees and savors all that God is for us in Christ, especially his righteousness. That's what faith does.


Now what is the Biblical basis of that
interpretation?

John Owen, in volume five of his Works (pp. 318-319) gives five arguments, and John Murray in his commentary on Romans gives nine arguments (pp. 353-359) why "faith credited as righteousness" does not mean that faith is our righteousness. I will give a few of these.

First, notice that at the end of verse 6 and at the
end of verse 11 in Romans 4 you have a very different way of expressing "imputation" or
crediting. At the end of verse 6 it says, "God credits righteousness apart from works." And at the end of verse 11 it says, ". . . that righteousness might be credited to them."


Notice: in both of these, faith is not the thing credited as righteousness, but righteousness is the thing credited to us. "God credits righteousness," not "God credits faith as righteousness." What this does is alert us to the good possibility that when Paul says, "Faith is credited as righteousness," he may well mean, "God credits righteousness to us through faith."

Second, look at Romans 3:21-22, "But now apart
from the Law the righteousness of God has been
manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the
Prophets, even the righteousness of God through
faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe."
Notice that it is God's righteousness that comes
to us through faith. Faith is what unites us to God's righteousness. Faith is not God's righteousness.

Third, 2 Corinthians 5:21, "He [God] made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him." Here we have a double imputation. God imputed our sins to Christ who knew no sin. And God imputed his righteousness to us who had no
righteousness of our own. The key phrases for us
are "the righteousness of God" and "in Him." It's
not our righteousness that we get here. It is God's righteousness. And we get it not because our faith is righteous, but because we are "in Christ." Faith unites us to Christ. And in Christ we have an alien righteousness. It is God's righteousness in Christ. Or you can say it is Christ's righteousness. He takes our sin. We take his righteousness.

Fourth, consider 1 Corinthians 1:30. John Bunyan
said that, after that experience in the field where
the imputed righteousness of Christ hit him so
powerfully, he went home and looked for Biblical
support. He hit upon 1 Corinthians 1:30. "But by
His [God's] doing you are in Christ Jesus, who
became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption." "By this scripture," Bunyan said, "I saw that the man Christ Jesus . . . is our righteousness and sanctification before God. Here therefore I lived for some time very sweetly at peace with God, through Christ" (Grace Abounding, p. 91).

Christ Is Our Righteousness

This text says that Christ became to us (or for us) "righteousness." And the reason Christ is our
"righteousness" in this way is that we are "in Christ Jesus." "You are in Christ Jesus who became to us . . . righteousness." Christ is our righteousness, not faith. Faith unites us to Christ and all that God is for us in him. But what he is for us in him is righteousness.

So then what is the point of all this? The point is
this: When Paul says in Romans 4:22 (and verses
3, 5, and 9) that "faith is credited as righteousness," he does not mean that our faith
is our righteousness. He means that our faith
unites us to Christ so that God's righteousness in
Christ is credited to us.

Here's a very imperfect analogy. But I will risk it in the hope of greater understanding. Suppose I say to Barnabas, my sixteen-year-old son, "Clean up your room before you go to school. You must have a clean room, or you won't be able to go watch the game tonight." Well, suppose he plans poorly and leaves for school without cleaning the room. And suppose I discover the messy room and clean it. His afternoon fills up and he gets home just before it's time to leave for the game and realizes what he has done and feels terrible. He apologizes and humbly accepts the consequences.

To which I say, "Barnabas, I am going to credit your apology and submission as a clean room. I said, 'You must have a clean room, or you won't be able to go watch the game tonight. Your room is clean. So you can go to the game." What I mean when I say, "I credit your apology as a clean room," is not that the apology is the clean room. Nor that he really cleaned his room. I cleaned it. It was pure grace. All I mean is that, in my way of reckoning - in my grace - his apology connects him with the promise given for a clean room. The clean room is his clean room. I credit it to him. Or, I credit his apology as a clean room.

You can say it either way. And Paul said it both
ways: "Faith is credited as righteousness," and
"God credits righteousness to us through faith."
So when God says, this morning, to those who
believe in Christ, "I credit your faith as
righteousness," he does not mean that your faith
is righteousness. He means that your faith
connects you to God's righteousness.


Peace, Security, Freedom

Now what difference should this make in your
life?
For Martin Luther and John Bunyan the discovery
of the imputed righteousness of Christ was the
greatest life-changing experience they ever had.
Luther said it was like entering a paradise of
peace with God. For Bunyan it was the end of
years of spiritual torture and uncertainty. What
would you give to know for sure that your legal
acceptance and approval before God was as sure
as the standing of Jesus Christ, his Son?


It's free. This is what Christ came to do: fulfill a
righteousness and die a death that would
remove all your sins and become for you a
perfect righteousness. He offers you this today
as a gift. If you see him as true and precious, if
you take the gift and trust in it, you will have a
peace with God that passes all understanding.
You will be a secure person. You will not need the
approval of others. You will not need the ego-
supports of wealth or power or revenge. You will
be free. You will overflow with love. You will lay
down your life in the cause of Christ for the joy
that is set before you. Look to Christ and trust
him for your righteousness.




JESUS IS THE WAY, NOT RIGHT LIVING!

Reptyle:


What are you on about my friend?

Please read the above comment on righteousness, that's the real biblical righteousness.


Note: I am not against right living, or promoting sin, rather I am against law of right living + faith = eternal life.

pinkpearl17:

Just shut up. You have no right to insult the religion of others even when you dont share the same beliefs. Atheist my foot. How were you made? Did you fall from the sky? At least acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.
Back to the topic, it is the pastor who needs mental evaluation.

Why the insult ? The problem with your logic is that it does not answer who created God. If man must have a creator because he did not "fall from the sky" What about God? Where did God come from