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Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by alBHAGDADI: 9:35am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Enter Jesus *He brought back a dead girl to life *He healed a woman with an issue of blood *He prevented the stoning of a Mary Magdalene *Mary Magdalene washed his feet with perfume and her hair in show of appreciation *Women wept during his trial and crucifixion *Women wept at his grave due to love for him *He said men should love their wives *A woman was the first to hear of his resurrection Enter mohammad *He married a 6yr old girl called aisha *He consummated the marriage when she clocked 9yrs *He saw a little baby crawling and swore to marry her if he is still alive when she comes of age. *He killed a Jewish woman's husband and father then converted, married and had sex with her on the same day *He married the wife of his adopted son after seeing her unclothedness and desiring her *He married his first wife, a 40yr old widow when he was 25 * He Married 11 wives and use to sleep with them all in one night *Says a woman's testimony is worth half of a man's testimony *Says 3 things spoil prayers - a donkey, a black dog and a woman *Prescribed beating of wives *Prevented women from inheritance *He wore women's clothes *He ordered the stoning of an adulterous woman *He was Killed by poison given to him by a WOMAN You can add yours 5 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by alBHAGDADI: 9:36am On Mar 05, 2017 |
plappville plapville aminusanti Empiree udatso rilwayne001 friendchoice malvisguy212 true2god annunaki2 4everGod ilynem Iwant2knowGod 2 Likes |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by SmartchoicesNG: 9:41am On Mar 05, 2017 |
alBHAGDADI:Wow |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by hadjipapiey(m): 9:46am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Laughable.... .. alBHAGDADI: |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by BWare: 9:56am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Stop stirring religious hatred… focus and practice your religion and stop interfering with others beliefs 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by Nukualofa: 10:10am On Mar 05, 2017 |
BWare:comot for here 8 Likes |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by Nukualofa: 10:11am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Why does Islam subjugate women? That's one of the reason I'm not comfortable with Islam 2 Likes |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by Iwant2knowGod(m): 10:11am On Mar 05, 2017 |
The greatest difference of all: Jesus saves, Mohammad does not. 12 Likes |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by Nobody: 10:17am On Mar 05, 2017 |
One was a giver of life. The other was a murderer 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by LordIsaac(m): 10:26am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Hmmmm....they won't say anything to this one. 2 Likes |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by alBHAGDADI: 10:33am On Mar 05, 2017 |
BWare:We have no choice but to interfere, especially when a certain religion of peace is hell bent on killing anyone that doesn't submit to its religion. Mind you, no one is stirring hate here. Or, is putting up facts now hate? 6 Likes |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by fatymore(f): 10:36am On Mar 05, 2017 |
A sane person would know your post is full of hatred.. And only insane people like you would believe your garbage story... Oponu agba 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by Nobody: 10:36am On Mar 05, 2017 |
LordIsaac:Come and see Rilwayne001 and FriendChoice running away from this thread as if there is a bomb here. Or rather they will come and start shouting corrupted corrupted bible 7 Likes |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by alBHAGDADI: 10:48am On Mar 05, 2017 |
fatymore:Do you want me to quote Quran and Hadith verses to support the above? Don't let us go there, cos i will dig out more vile things that Mohammad did. BTW, what's the hatred in what I posted? 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by alBHAGDADI: 11:04am On Mar 05, 2017 |
damagepbuh: Jesus brought a LITTLE girl back to life. Mohammad ejaculated' on a LITTLE girl. 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by Rilwayne001: 11:04am On Mar 05, 2017 |
damagepbuh: Lol, @run away. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by Haroun13(m): 11:10am On Mar 05, 2017 |
alBHAGDADI:If this is the same story where be hesitated, telling her mother to go away, then, there's nothing special, because according to your bible, it is clear he did it out of clearing his conscience, not love. He healed a woman with an issue of bloodHe said it was her faith that healed her. He prevented the stoning of a Mary MagdaleneMaybe he did. You didn't show any evidence though. Mary Magdalene washed his feet with perfume and her hair in show of appreciationMaybe, but no evidence. Women wept during his trial and crucifixionShow no treatment of him to women Enter mohammadThe light and mercy to the worlds, seal of the prophets. May Allah's blessings and peace be upon him. He married a 6yr old girl called aishaMarital contract (betrothal) can take place at any age, the actual marriage and consummation must take place with the consent of the individuals involved, on reaching maturity (both mental and physical). He consummated the marriage when she clocked 9yrsFirst, her father was a knowledgeable and wealthy man, and wasn't someone to be persuaded or dissuaded easily, by anyone at all. For him to have given his consent is proof that in fact, there was nothing wrong in the marriage. Second, the pagans who had looked for countless ways to discredit the prophet (peace be upon) never for once objected to this marriage. Another proof that it was in fact, perfectly normal. Third, there is only one condition for marriage in Islam, maturity (both physically and mentally), so, it is clear that she was indeed mature for the marriage and consummation to take place. Fourth, she narrated a lot of hadith, hence, it's clear that she was indeed mature. Fifth, some scholars have hinted at the fact that the old age of the compiler could have lead to an error in writing. Sixth, some scholars have shown, through referencing from other authentic hadith that it was indeed 16 and 19, not 6 and 9. NB:- the last two points were deliberately kept for last because they are debatable. But, either way, there was absolutely nothing wrong in the marriage. He killed a Jewish woman's husband and father then converted, married and had sex with her on the same dayEvidence? He married the wife of his adopted son after seeing her unclothedness and desiring herBlatant lie. Show the evidence from authentic sources. He married his first wife, a 40yr old widow when he was 25Indeed, this is a liberation because most widows are avoided, in marriage. Second, she even proposed the marriage, showing to women that they can propose marriages, and do not have to wait for the man to do so. Indeed, another liberation. Married 11 wivesFirst, he was married to only Khadijat (radiallahu anha) for 23 years, before her death. Second, some of his wives were widows, who had none to protect and provide for them and their children, considering the fact that the man was considered the sole provider of these. Third, another reason for this was for forming alliances with the nations from which these women came, thus, forming close relationship, and even spreading of Islam. Says a woman's testimony is worth half of a man's testimonyAnother lie. First, this is from the Qur'an. Second, it is misunderstood. This is only the case in terms of financial matters, because if you read the verse in context, you'll see that it's talking about finance. Considering the fact that in Islam, the norm is that the man is the provider for the family, especially in finance (but there can be exceptions). Hence, it is expected that he should know more in this aspect. Third, it is not possible that the rule applies is every matter, because a man's testimony, in women matters cannot be twice a woman's. Hence, it is clear that it is only in financial matters. Says 3 things spoil prayers - a donkey, a black dog and a womanThe translation there as "cut off the prayer" is not literal, and doesn't mean nullify, but according to the scholars, means, it will make the prayer imperfect, due to the distraction it will cause. It's like beauty (the woman) and the beast (the animal). They will both cause distraction to the man who is praying, thereby making the prayer imperfect. This is the view of majority of the scholars, while Imam Ahmad said that it's only the passing of the dog that invalidates the prayer. But either way, it is the distraction the woman will cause that is talked about. Prescribed beating of wivesGonna take some time to write, so, just look up this link. http://www.islamawareness.net/Wife/beating1.html Prevented women from inheritanceGreatest lie of the day. This was the pre Islamic law. But, due to the advent of Islam, women were allowed inheritance. A woman is entitled to 1/2 what a man gets. The question is why? Because, like I said above, the man is the provider and caretaker of the family, while the income a women gets is primarily hers to spend (this is the norm, but there are exceptions). So, it is logical that the man gets twice what the woman gets. And it's not in all cases. He was Killed by poison given to him by a WOMANBut he survived, and when he was asked of what to be done to the woman, he said to let her go. Another kindness and gentleness to women. You can add yoursOK. Here's a littles; Treat women kindly, since they are your helpers; . . . you have your rights upon your wives and they have their rights upon you. Your right is that they shall not allow anyone you dislike to enter your bed or your home, and their right is that you should treat them well. (from the Farewell Sermon of the Prophet) Once a number of women complained to the Prophet's wives about their ill-treatment by their husbands. On hearing of this, the Prophet said: "Such persons among you are not good persons." (Abu Dawud, 1834). This condemnation by the Prophet himself was an indication that no one will be accepted before God who, while on earth, decided to be unkind to women. "…And live with them in kindness…" (Quran 4:19) The Messenger of God said, The most perfect of believers in belief is the best of them in character. The best of you are those who are the best to their women.’ Al-Tirmidhi The Prophet of Mercy tells us that a husband’s treatment of his wife reflects a Muslim’s good character, which in turn is a reflection of the man’s faith. How can a Muslim husband be good to his wife? He should smile, not hurt her emotionally, remove anything that will harm her, treat her gently, and be patient with her. Human beings are imperfect. The Messenger of God said, "A believing man should not hate a believing woman. If he dislikes something in her character, he should be pleased with some other trait of hers." Saheeh Muslim. A man should not hate his wife because if he dislikes something in her, he will find something he likes about her if he gives it a chance. One way to be aware of what he likes in his wife is for the husband to make a list of a half dozen things he appreciates about her. Marriage experts recommend that one be as specific as possible and focus on character traits — just as the Prophet of Islam recommended, not just what she does for the husband. For example, a husband may appreciate the way she arranges his clean laundry, but the underlying character trait may be that she is thoughtful. The husband should consider admirable traits such as being compassionate, generous, kind, devout, creative, elegant, honest, affectionate, energetic, gentle, optimistic, committed, faithful, confident, cheerful, and so on. A husband should give himself some time to construct this list, and review it in times of conflict when he is most likely to feel averse towards his wife. It will help him be more aware of his wife’s good attributes and far more likely to compliment them. A companion asked the Prophet of God what is the right of a wife over her husband?’ He said, "That you feed her when you eat and clothe her when you clothe yourself and do not strike her face. Do not malign her and do not keep apart from her, except in the house." Abu Daud Conflict in marriage is virtually inevitable and it leads to lot of anger. Although anger is one of the most difficult emotions to manage, the first step toward controlling it can be learning how to forgive those who hurt us. But I guess it's difficult for you to find the one's like this, since they are difficult to corrupt, so, you'll just go to the one's you can easily distort to give funny meanings. 15 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by onward4life(m): 11:13am On Mar 05, 2017 |
alBHAGDADI: Guy peace and unity!!!! |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by alBHAGDADI: 11:20am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Haroun13:Pls, how does your write up disprove the below verses? Mark 5:35 35 While Jesus was still speaking, some people came from the house of Jairus, the synagogue leader. "Your daughter is dead," they said. "Why bother the teacher anymore?" 36 Overhearing what they said, Jesus told him, "Don't be afraid; just believe." 37 He did not let anyone follow him except Peter, James and John the brother of James. 38 When they came to the home of the synagogue leader, Jesus saw a commotion, with people crying and wailing loudly. 39 He went in and said to them, "Why all this commotion and wailing? The child is not dead but asleep." 40 But they laughed at him. After he put them all out, he took the child's father and mother and the disciples who were with him, and went in where the child was. 41 He took her by the hand and said to her, "Talitha koum!" (which means "Little girl, I say to you, get up!". 42 Immediately the girl stood up and began to walk around (she was twelve years old). At this they were completely astonished. Haroun13:And want was her faith? Her faith was that she would get healed if she just managed to touch the hell of his clothe. Guess what happened when she touched his clothe? Yahshua noticed that power had gone out from his body Mark 5:30 30 At once Jesus realized that power had gone out from him. He turned around in the crowd and asked, "Who touched my clothes?" Haroun13:Had it been he didn't make a suggestion that whoever has no son should throw the first stone, that woman would have been killed. So, you see, He saved her. Haroun13:Luke 7:38 As she stood behind him at his feet weeping, she began to wet his feet with her tears. Then she wiped them with her hair, kissed them and poured perfume on them. Haroun13:Rather, it showed how women felt about him. Am coming with Mohammad's part. Haroun13:Mohammad is not the light of the world, except you want to tell me that the light you are talking about is terrorism, take, pedophilia and slavery. Yahshua the Messiah is the light of the world John 8:12 When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." John 14:6 Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me. Haroun13:Yes, it can take place at any age. But for a 54yr old man to marry a 6yr old girl? That's a no no for sane minds. Be sincere with yourself, do you think 9yr old Aisha, a girl who was still playing with dolls and had no knowledge of sex, really consented to having sex with mohammad, a 54yr old wrinkled man? Haroun13:So says a muslim who will reject it if a 54yr old man comes for his 6yr old daughter. Or will you agree to give your daughter out at garbage and to answer old man? Haroun13:can you quote a hadith verse that shows that? Haroun13:You mean a 6 to 9yr old is mature for marriage and sex? No wah for muslims o. That's pedophilia. Haroun13:She narrated those hadiths when she had come of age and Mohammad had died, not when she was still a toddler. Guess what? She narrated how he use to out his manhood between her 6yr old thighs then ejaculate'. Bad guy Haroun13:Liar! Aisha herself said she was 6yr old and lost her virginity to Mohammad at 9yr old. She even made mention of herself playing with dolls. Does a 16yr old girl okay with dolls?. Were the Al taquiya scholars even born then? Read SUNAN ABU DAWUD Aisha said: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) married me when I was seven years old. The narrator Sulaiman said: Or six years. He had intercourse with me when I was nine years old . ( Sunan Abu Dawud , Number 2116) Sahih Bukhari 58:234 SAHIH AL-BUKHARI Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends . She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age . (Sahih Al-Bukhari , Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234 ) Haroun13:Then give your 6yr old daughter to a wrinkled old man. Haroun13:Oh, evidence that Mohammad was poisoned? Narrated Anas bin Malik: A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet who ate from it. She was brought to the Prophet and he was asked, "Shall we kill her?" He said, "No." I continued to see the effect of the poison on the palate of the mouth of Allah's Apostle . Sahih Bukhari 3:47:786 Haroun13:Below is an evidence that Mohammad married his adopted son's wife. Surah 33:37-38: “And when you said to him to whom Allah had shown favor and to whom you had shown a favor: Keep your wife to yourself and be careful of (your duty to) Allah; and you concealed in your soul what Allah would bring to light, and you feared men, and Allah had a greater right that you should fear Him. But when Zaid had accomplished his want of her, WE GAVE HER TO YOU AS A WIFE, so that there should be no difficulty for the believers in respect of the wives of their adopted sons , when they have accomplished their want of them; and Allah’s command shall be performed. There is no harm in the Prophet doing that which Allah has ordained for him; such has been the course of Allah with respect to those who have gone before; and the command of Allah is a decree that is made absolute.” (Shakir) According to the above Qur’anic verses, Allah himself ordained the marriage between Muhammad and Zainab while she was still the wife of his adopted son Haroun13:So, Mohammad was the only single man on earth then right? How come this hadith is authentic and every other hadith that shows how cute Mohammad was are not authentic? Haroun13:So, Mohammad was the only man on earth then, right? Haroun13:That verse spoke nothing of finance. Stop using Al taquiya Haroun13:Still makes no difference. Haroun13:That means that Mohammad said that women are unclean things like dogs that prevent prayers from being perfect. What a prophet. Haroun13:Is that where you copied this garbage from? Haroun13:pls, can you prove how that law of inheritance was a ore-islamic law? Do that and I will show you how it was an Islamic law Haroun13:He probably thought he could add her to the list of his wives if he survived. Bad sexy guy Haroun13:All these doesn't hide the subjugation of women in the Islamic world, especially in Saudi Arabia where women are flogged for not wearing hijab, can't drive, can't inherit, forced into polygamy and beating recklessly. Rilwayne001 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by fatymore(f): 11:23am On Mar 05, 2017 |
alBHAGDADI:Go to the other thread you are suppose to quote your Bible... Stop lying you don't av MB or does your Bible quote involves 100mb... All what you wrote is gibberish..only Someone who hatred has eaten deep writes that... 1 Like |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by Nobody: 11:24am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Rilwayne001:Bro so can u pls do justice to d questions |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by Nobody: 11:29am On Mar 05, 2017 |
alBHAGDADI:Jesus healed d brother of his friends Lazarus mohammad married saffiyya and wiped away her entire family. If d story of mohammad is to be acted den spartacus dey learn work 4 Likes |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by udatso: 11:30am On Mar 05, 2017 |
It's so funny how this bigot finds the marrying of a widow a condemnable act rather than commendable. JazakAllaah khairan @ haroun13. Seeing the way you educate these guys has really motivated me to keep replying for the sake of those that truly seek knowledge even though I had decided not to engage these islamophobes again. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by Nobody: 11:31am On Mar 05, 2017 |
fatymore:Truth teller someone said dat a girl of nine yr old was fully matured for knacking by mohammad. Is dis true? And would u want ur daughter to be treated same way? Is it true dat saffiyya entire family was wiped out by our peace loving perfect mohammad |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by Nobody: 11:33am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Lmao! alBHAGDADI: |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by Nobody: 11:33am On Mar 05, 2017 |
udatso:o Now big bro can u now go ahead and look for widows in ur neighborhood and Marry them all!! Konji na bastard |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by Rilwayne001: 11:36am On Mar 05, 2017 |
alBHAGDADI: The notebook just destroyed your thread! Albeit, I'll answer you with a note as well... typing rubbishFixed** |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by fatymore(f): 11:36am On Mar 05, 2017 |
damagepbuh:who the hell are you.. Write something comprehensible maybe by then I can answer your stewpid question |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by Nobody: 11:38am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Haroun13:My dear all thoss things u wrote are long epistles. D teaching of d bible is clearly seen in d lives of Christians and they can defend their attitude anywhere anytime using d bible and u want me to believe dat d lives of Muslims in saudi arabia whom d quran says are better u, d lives of Muslims in Northern nigeria that they are not according to d quran abi. Its only south west dat has a different version of islam because they have been so much influenced by christians and western education. I call wat they practice Adulterated islam |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by Rilwayne001: 11:38am On Mar 05, 2017 |
damagepbuh: Someone already did |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by Nobody: 11:41am On Mar 05, 2017 |
fatymore:Stewpid question? Was aisha maturred for marriage at d age of 9? Did mohammad who is all peace loving wioe out saffiyya's family? Do u think any Human on earth would gladly marry someone who wiped off her family? Would u want ur daughter to be maturred enof for marriage at 9yrs? 1 Like |
Re: Jesus VS Mohammad: How Both Men Treated Women *UPDATED* by Nobody: 11:42am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Rilwayne001:Always hiding and finding excuses. Come out and defend ur islam d race is personal |
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