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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by emaculate99: 11:00pm On May 08, 2016 |
newpundit: Using Nigeria as an example is a no-no. Nigeria has not started practicing Federal Character as it is supposed because of the inability of a court to force the government to use it. Can a car work without engine? No! it cannot. In Nigeria, if Federal Character is not used, you cannot take the federal government to court on it. And that means, government can choose to forgo it. This, they have done many times without number. Nigeria's Federal Character is just like a car that has no engine because the engine is the ability to sue the government if they refuse to use it. Nigeria has not started practicing Federal Character in reality but on paper it is practicing it. That's why we are arguing for it to matter in appointments. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by Mojoy88(m): 11:02pm On May 08, 2016 |
Neyoor:That means we can achieve equal representation of all ethnics and merit. So the Federal Character should be encouraged. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by Nobody: 11:02pm On May 08, 2016 |
OAUTemitayo: It is very simple, they circumvent the law because there is no strict regulation or penalty for defaulters. Let their be strict regulation and stiff penalty for them and let's see who will dare fill our public offices with mediocres and people that are not worthy of it |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by Fynestboi: 11:02pm On May 08, 2016 |
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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by OAUTemitayo: 11:02pm On May 08, 2016 |
Tourshaw:In Nigerian public employment process there is nothing called catchment area. It is based on state by state. Well the quota system said it should be shared equally among the states. You are a contestant. Don't you have any question for Unilorin. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by newpundit: 11:04pm On May 08, 2016 |
OAUTemitayo: If it is really justifiable why then do we still have uproars from different ethnic groups claiming marginalisation even with the presence of the federal character policy in play? |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by OAUTemitayo: 11:04pm On May 08, 2016 |
Neyoor:Who will punish the people in power. We don't have strong institutions. It's an unfortunate situation we found ourselves. Only a Sovereign National Conference can solve all this. 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by Nobody: 11:04pm On May 08, 2016 |
Neyoor: newpundit: 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by OAUTemitayo: 11:06pm On May 08, 2016 |
newpundit:Because human beings are insatiable There will always be grouses, the most important thing is that such grouses must not be genuine to the extent of destabilising the country |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by Nobody: 11:07pm On May 08, 2016 |
Mojoy88: Merit should always come first before federal character bro! 2 Likes |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by Tourshaw: 11:07pm On May 08, 2016 |
@emaculate99, Another problem of federal character is particular tribal domination. When a federal parastatal is led by a particular tribe, that tribe dominates the parastatal. For instance, someone from Yoruba leads a parastatal, 80% of the parastatal will be Yoruba. And this is the trend in all the federal parastatals that is once a person in one tribe is appointed to a public office, he starts recruiting his family and friends into the sysytem. As seen in one Chief Ferdinand Anikwe and among others who recruited about 40 new staff members most of whom are his friends and family members in Ezeagu LGA of Enugu state. Tell me I'm wrong 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by emaculate99: 11:09pm On May 08, 2016 |
Neyoor:in a nutshell, you mean meritocracy is good and the government should include meritocracy into the principle advocating Federal Character. Then that means you agree that Federal Character should matter even while using meritocracy to appoint people into public office. This topic is "should federal character matter in public appointments? " and with this, you have said yes, it should matter. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by Nobody: 11:10pm On May 08, 2016 |
OAUTemitayo: Nobody is above the law bro. If the law restraining them is put in place, we can always deal with the violators. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by kingjibe(m): 11:10pm On May 08, 2016 |
About 70% of Nigeria Foot-soldiers are from Hausa-Fulani. Is that Federal Character Principle? @Oautemitayo and @emmaculate 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by newpundit: 11:11pm On May 08, 2016 |
emaculate99: Do you think the lack of a justiciable federal character policy is in oversight on the part of the policy makers Or things are going the way they supposed it would be? |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by Nobody: 11:13pm On May 08, 2016 |
emaculate99: So, for the fact that you said our government are not working in conformity with the federal character policy means all what you said is futile and that it shouldn't be adopted? Don't get this wrong. It all still lies down to merit. Merit should be used first, if atall federal character would be considered aftermath. 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by OAUTemitayo: 11:15pm On May 08, 2016 |
kingjibe:That statistics cannot stand the test of facts. It is a mere assumption that the debater himself failed to substantiate when the judges asked him to |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by emaculate99: 11:16pm On May 08, 2016 |
Tourshaw: We are not arguing that ethnicism should matter in appointments. If we are arguing that, this would have been OK. we are saying that it should matter. What you brought up there borders around ethnicism and not Federal Character. Federal Character allows for a particular percentage for each ethnic group. If that is the case, I wonder how such situation given above could happen. You should know that the principle is not justiciable in Nigeria as a law student. That means the government can choose to forgo it or to use it. That's why those people up there could employ people of their regions. This will then bring marginalisation. But you know if it is made justiciable, such thing cannot happen without the wrath of law. As a constitutional law student, you know that principle is placed under Chapter 2 of the constitution which is considered to be our rights that are being hidden away from us with the non-justiciability clause. Tell me if I am wrong. You should know better. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by Tourshaw: 11:16pm On May 08, 2016 |
OAUTemitayo: Well, I believe you have done a great deal in whetting my appetite with your replies. Asking me if I have question for Unilorin is wrong na. l direct my questions to whomever l want. I'm only part of team Unilorin not a contestants in this final. But all in all. Kudos to you Sir. I've learned a handful from the wealth of your knowledge and doggedness. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by emaculate99: 11:17pm On May 08, 2016 |
kingjibe:That is not Federal character. That is why we want Federal Character to apply in public appointments. To allow all of us have a sense of belonging. 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by emaculate99: 11:21pm On May 08, 2016 |
newpundit:We cannot really say whether that's what they want or not because we weren't there when they were drafting the constitution. But, legal luminaries and Human Rights Activists are fighting for it to matter and this is what we are fighting for. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by OAUTemitayo: 11:23pm On May 08, 2016 |
Tourshaw:Lol. You are still a Unilorin man 2 Likes |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by Nobody: 11:25pm On May 08, 2016 |
OAUTemitayo: That is what is far from the truth. This link below already substantiate his point and make it valid. http://m.thenigerianvoice.com/thread/14994/98631/1 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by WizPrince1(m): 11:27pm On May 08, 2016 |
It's really impressive... seeing youths engaging themselves in things that can change the Nation. This is cool |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by walegee(m): 11:27pm On May 08, 2016 |
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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by Tourshaw: 11:27pm On May 08, 2016 |
emaculate99: I am finding it hard to comprehend your legal term. Is that your justiciable synonymous with justifiable? Or what? please, I'm now a law student. I'm a student of Human anatomy. Clarify that Sir |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by emaculate99: 11:28pm On May 08, 2016 |
Neyoor: Smiles.... we are to make them see reasons why federal character should matter in public offices and not to say they should not use it again. saying that the government are not conforming with it means that I identified the lapse on the part of the government that needs to be corrected by making Federal Character matter so that the government will always conform with it. Talking about non conformation of the government is not a negator to my argument but the recognition of what that needs to be corrected. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by Nobody: 11:28pm On May 08, 2016 |
emaculate99:Bros! Are you from Ekiti state? That your surname rings a bell. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by shollarey(m): 11:28pm On May 08, 2016 |
Gets up from bed suddenly, ooh i've missed. Who is the winner of final and third place? |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by OAUTemitayo: 11:29pm On May 08, 2016 |
Neyoor:How can we use the words of somebody on an anonymous forum as facts? We need you to present how the compilation if the numbers were done. State by state, how the research was conducted and by whom? The person you referenced is an activist of the Niger Delta. You are an academician and must not argue based on mere assumptions 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by Tourshaw: 11:30pm On May 08, 2016 |
OAUTemitayo: OAUTemitayo: of course I am. lol. And I'm reppin the team. We can be friends afterwards you know? But not now. lol |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate 3RD EDITION -Winner- Obafemi Awolowo University by Nobody: 11:33pm On May 08, 2016 |
OAUTemitayo: So, all what you used today are mere facts that have been proved to be right? Why then do you have references? It's a fact and not an assumption, only if we would shy away from it. |
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