GooseBaba:


Last I checked, when was the last time america remove a democratic elected president via coup from Germany or Japan..?

That's why I said compare apples to apples bro..

Which one did they remove in Nigeria?

GooseBaba:


All you mentioned is not peculiar to only africans. And you cannot use political agenda to define the complexity of human nature. Politics is Politics... Human nature is human nature...

When you say "most Nigerians" in regards to evil agenda with spiritualist, are you speaking from experience or regurgitating nollywood movie scripts.

100% experience personally been a victim. and most don't hide the fact that they are working against U .some even dare U .

For over 15yrs ,i have never watch nollywood movies. their script and story are so poor.
Stop acting like U are a foreigner .

blueAgent:



Ok ,you are trying to blame it on whites. Prior to black rule.HiV rate and crime rates were very low. google about the History of Bostwana for answer to your first question.

Rawanda ,Zambia,Congo all have High Hiv rate but they have no white population.
Southern African nations have a culture that promotes prosmuscity and nude cultural festivals
You can imagine were present president (Jacob Zuma) of SA has over 4wives and several Concubines. same with the monarch of Swaziland. you can google all this facts. all this is based on their traditional believes and culture.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Zuma

So we have a culture that promotes promiscuity? That' a first. Dude I know you love to hate South Africa but please stop misleading people

SPOPOVICH:


Well i read the history of botswana and have seen discussions on the development after 1965, I dont remember anything about it being part of SA and theres nothing on google.

On AIDS, well its an accepted fact that the high HIV rate in the region is due to the century old migrant labour system (slave labour) where millions of men were forced to work in mines away from their families for months, nothing to do with polygamy (the region has the lowest polygamy rates in Africa, West Africa with lowest HIV rate is top in polygamy).
Human immunodeficiency virus and migrant labor 1991
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2004869/

As for crime. this graph says it all

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2015-10-02-south-africas-mysterious-murder-rate/

In the 19th century, hostilities broke out between
Tswana inhabitants of Botswana and Ndebele
tribes who were making incursions into the
territory from the north-east. Tensions also
escalated with the Dutch Boer settlers from the
Transvaal to the east. After appeals by the
Batswana leaders Khama III, Bathoen and Sebele
for assistance, the British Government put
Bechuanaland under its protection on 31 March
1885.[12] The northern territory remained under
direct administration as the Bechuanaland
Protectorate and is modern-day Botswana, while
the southern territory became part of the Cape
Colony and is now part of the northwest province
of South Africa. The majority of Setswana-
speaking people today live in South Africa.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botswana

LeSudAfricaine:
So we have a culture that promotes promiscuity? That' a first. Dude I know you love to hate South Africa but please stop misleading people

Prove me wrong.

It is estimated that over 40% of South African
women will be raped in their lifetime and that
only 1 in 9 rapes are reported.[12] It is also
estimated that 14% of perpetrators of rape are
convicted in South Africa.[13] In 1997, violence
against women was added as one of the priority
crimes under the National Crime Prevention
Strategy; nevertheless, the rates of reported rape,
sexual abuse of children and domestic violence
continue to rise.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_South_Africa

blueAgent:



Prove me wrong.

It is estimated that over 40% of South African
women will be raped in their lifetime and that
only 1 in 9 rapes are reported.[12] It is also
estimated that 14% of perpetrators of rape are
convicted in South Africa.[13] In 1997, violence
against women was added as one of the priority
crimes under the National Crime Prevention
Strategy; nevertheless, the rates of reported rape,
sexual abuse of children and domestic violence
continue to rise.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_South_Africa

Consult your dictionary for the meaning of

Promiscuity

Rape


Then come back to me, instead of becoming excited unnescesarily

LeSudAfricaine:
Consult your dictionary for the meaning of

Promiscuity

Rape


Then come back to me, instead of becoming excited unnescesarily

Me self tire for the guy ohhh..

blueAgent:



Which one did they remove in Nigeria?

Smh...will you stop running from pillar to post. You compared Germany and Japan to Haiti. And I asked you. When was the last time a democratic elected president was removed by a sanctioned coup backed by america in Germany or Japan? You turn around and ask me about Nigeria...Bros, warn ya sef..!

blueAgent:



Prove me wrong.

It is estimated that over 40% of South African
women will be raped in their lifetime and that
only 1 in 9 rapes are reported.[12] It is also
estimated that 14% of perpetrators of rape are
convicted in South Africa.[13] In 1997, violence
against women was added as one of the priority
crimes under the National Crime Prevention
Strategy; nevertheless, the rates of reported rape,
sexual abuse of children and domestic violence
continue to rise.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_South_Africa

You don't like or worship white people. But you sure want to be like them and yearn for their acceptance that you are an educated blackman.

You sure took several pages from their condescending approach to african development. At least an uncle tom knows where he/she stands. But you...!!! smh... You don't even know if you are coming or going...

We need to consult the oracle on your behalf. You're showing symptoms of being bewitched by white witches and wizards...

GooseBaba:

Me self tire for the guy ohhh..

This guy is stupid, period!

blueAgent:



I laugh . what a pathetic excuse .are they the only place were men are taken to camp for Minning? am sure you don't read those articles on those sites.
How about Jacob Zuma. and his26 Childeren and Concubines. did Zuma also work in Minning camp?

Did u read the link I posted, stop being ignorant, its an accepted scientific fact by AIDS reasechers.

Jacob Zuma doesnt have HIV idiot.

Theres no Correlation between HIV and polygamy, stop pulling nonsense out of your ass

Polygamy map Africa
http://voxeu.org/article/african-polygamy-past-and-present

blueAgent:




Trash. My relation Schooled their.
Like i said give me one African country you can compare to Ukriane. Ukriane is rated as a middle income country by world bank.

read the link i posted.

blueAgent:





In the 19th century, hostilities broke out between
Tswana inhabitants of Botswana and Ndebele
tribes who were making incursions into the
territory from the north-east. Tensions also
escalated with the Dutch Boer settlers from the
Transvaal to the east. After appeals by the
Batswana leaders Khama III, Bathoen and Sebele
for assistance, the British Government put
Bechuanaland under its protection on 31 March
1885.[12] The northern territory remained under
direct administration as the Bechuanaland
Protectorate and is modern-day Botswana, while
the southern territory became part of the Cape
Colony and is now part of the northwest province
of South Africa. The majority of Setswana-
speaking people today live in South Africa.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botswana

Mehn u are dumb, where does it say that Botswana was part of South Africa? Just because there're tswanas in South Africa and Botswana doesnt mean Botswana was part of South Africa. Now you're gonna claim that Benin republic was part of Nigeria because both countries have Yoruba people.

blueAgent:



Prove me wrong.

It is estimated that over 40% of South African
women will be raped in their lifetime and that
only 1 in 9 rapes are reported.[12] It is also
estimated that 14% of perpetrators of rape are
convicted in South Africa.[13] In 1997, violence
against women was added as one of the priority
crimes under the National Crime Prevention
Strategy; nevertheless, the rates of reported rape,
sexual abuse of children and domestic violence
continue to rise.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_South_Africa

So Rape is the cause of the high HIV rate, smh.

Anyway all those stats and hype about rape have being debunked by reseachers, see the other articles in the link, https://africacheck.org/reports/will-one-in-three-women-in-sa-be-raped-blow-the-whistle-wrong-again/

GooseBaba:


You don't like or worship white people. But you sure want to be like them and yearn for their acceptance that you are an educated blackman.

You sure took several pages from their condescending approach to african development. At least an uncle tom knows where he/she stands. But you...!!! smh... You don't even know if you are coming or going...

We need to consult the oracle on your behalf. You're showing symptoms of being bewitched by white witches and wizards...

lol, the guy is probably one of those Africans on racist white supremacist sites and blogs like stormfront & AmericanRense, everything he writes here you see on those websites. Jews using blacks to destroy whites. lol.

blueAgent:

Prove me wrong.
It is estimated that over 40% of South African
women will be raped in their lifetime and that
only 1 in 9 rapes are reported.[12] It is also
estimated that 14% of perpetrators of rape are
convicted in South Africa.[13] In 1997, violence
against women was added as one of the priority
crimes under the National Crime Prevention
Strategy; nevertheless, the rates of reported rape,
sexual abuse of children and domestic violence
continue to rise.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_South_Africa

Sir that is a reason we want them back in europe!

It will not be any coincidence on the high white SA population and rape culture.

419forlife:

Sir that is a reason we want them back in europe!

It will not be any coincidence on the high white SA population and rape culture.

I laugh. So you can Denial your culture and traditions.


While polygamy and civil recognition of
polygamous marriages are illegal, South African
customary law affords a generous amount of
benefits to polygamous unions, ranging from
inheritance rights to child custody, thanks to a
1998 law that allowed for such.[1][not in citation
given] South African traditionalists have been well
known to practice polygamy and the topic has
been a serious political issue in the past several
years, especially in the 2009 elections. Many of
the indigenous Bantu peoples, both Christians
and Indigenous, are polygamous and Islamic
South Africans such as the Cape Malays, Cape
Coloureds and Indian South Africans who are
Muslim also allow for polygamy.
Jacob Zuma, the current president of South
Africa, is a self-proclaimed polygamist. He has
been married five times, and is currently married
to four different women. He has reportedly
fathered 20 children among his wives and
mistresses.[not in citation given]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy_in_South_Africa


dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2064049/Polygamous-King-Swaziland-breaks-12th-wife-cheats-him.html



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfal5Fe964Y

SPOPOVICH:


So Rape is the cause of the high HIV rate, smh.

Anyway all those stats and hype about rape have being debunked by reseachers, see the other articles in the link, https://africacheck.org/reports/will-one-in-three-women-in-sa-be-raped-blow-the-whistle-wrong-again/

While polygamy and civil recognition of
polygamous marriages are illegal, South African
customary law affords a generous amount of
benefits to polygamous unions, ranging from
inheritance rights to child custody, thanks to a
1998 law that allowed for such.[1][not in citation
given] South African traditionalists have been well
known to practice polygamy and the topic has
been a serious political issue in the past several
years, especially in the 2009 elections. Many of
the indigenous Bantu peoples, both Christians
and Indigenous, are polygamous and Islamic
South Africans such as the Cape Malays, Cape
Coloureds and Indian South Africans who are
Muslim also allow for polygamy.
Jacob Zuma, the current president of South
Africa, is a self-proclaimed polygamist. He has
been married five times, and is currently married
to four different women. He has reportedly
fathered 20 children among his wives and
mistresses.[not in citation given]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy_in_
South_Africa

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2064049/
Polygamous-King-Swaziland-breaks-12th-wife-
cheats-him.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfal5Fe964Y


Educate yourself.

SPOPOVICH:


read the link i posted.

I don't have time for that. this argument has gone on for too long. Like i said show me any country in Africa that U can compare to Ukraine or the poorest white country.
EU has high standards as condition for admisson into it. if U think Ukriane is poor. tell me a Country in Africa that can meet EU standard.

SPOPOVICH:


Mehn u are dumb, where does it say that Botswana was part of South Africa? Just because there're tswanas in South Africa and Botswana doesnt mean Botswana was part of South Africa. Now you're gonna claim that Benin republic was part of Nigeria because both countries have Yoruba people.

Mor0n You need to Learn English comprehension.

Present Bostwana ,Lesotho and Swaziland where British protectorates adminstered by South Africa.


Bechuanaland meant the country of the Tswana
and for administrative purposes was divided into
two political entities. The northern part was
administered as the Bechuanaland Protectorate
and the southern part was administered as the
crown colony of British Bechuanaland. British
Bechuanaland was incorporated into the Cape
Colony in 1895 and now forms part of South
Africa.
The northern part, the Bechuanaland Protectorate,
had an area of 225,000 square miles (580,000
km2), and a population 120,776.
The British government originally expected to
turn over administration of the protectorate to
Rhodesia or South Africa, but Tswana opposition
left the protectorate under British rule until
independence in 1966.
The Bechuanaland Protectorate was technically a
protectorate rather than a colony. Originally the
local Tswana rulers were left in power, and the
British administration was limited to a police
force to protect Bechuanaland's borders against
other European colonial ventures. But on 9 May
1891 the British Government gave the
administration of the protectorate to the High
Commissioner for South Africa, who started to
appoint officials in Bechuanaland, and the de
facto independence of Bechuanaland ended.
The protectorate was administered from
Mafeking, creating the unusual situation of the
capital of the territory being located outside of it.
The area of Mafeking (from 1980 with the
incorporation into Bophuthatswana Mafikeng,
since 2010 Mahikeng) in which the
administration was housed was called 'The
Imperial Reserve'. In 1885, when the protectorate
was declared, Bechuanaland was bounded to the
north by the latitude of 22° south. The northern
boundary of the Protectorate was formally
extended northward by the British to include
Ngamiland, which was dominated by the Tawana
state, on 30 June 1890.[1] This claim was
formally recognised by Germany the following
day by Article III of the Heligoland-Zanzibar
Treaty, which confirmed the western boundary of
the British protectorate of Bechuanaland and the
German protectorate of South-West Africa and
also created the Caprivi strip inherited by modern
Namibia:
“


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bechuanaland_Protectorate

SPOPOVICH:


Did u read the link I posted, stop being ignorant, its an accepted scientific fact by AIDS reasechers.

Jacob Zuma doesnt have HIV idiot.

Theres no Correlation between HIV and polygamy, stop pulling nonsense out of your ass

Polygamy map Africa
http://voxeu.org/article/african-polygamy-past-and-present

U are a big slowpoke .who said he had HIV. the purpose was to show Southern Africans nations . their sex life and traditions .

This your stupid article what has it got to do with HIV and polygamy.

guy get a brain. or aleast borrow one.

I
Am done with you. talking to U is like trying to teach a kid Advanced Calculus.

Kenya: Polygamy in Kenya - a Legal
Way to Spread HIV?

www.allafrica.com/stories/201405021385.html


UN says polygamy main driver of Aids
in Swaziland.
30 AUG 2008 08:00| STAFF REPORTER

www.mg.co.za/article/2008-08-30-un-says-polygamy-main-driver-of-aids-in-swaziland

GooseBaba:


Smh...will you stop running from pillar to post. You compared Germany and Japan to Haiti. And I asked you. When was the last time a democratic elected president was removed by a sanctioned coup backed by america in Germany or Japan? You turn around and ask me about Nigeria...Bros, warn ya sef..!

And which of the leaders of Haiti was removed by US?
Google about politics in Haiti.
was it US that told most of the leaders to establish themselves as leaders for life.?
US have always been involued in global politics especially any country that is affliated to Socialism and communist.

GooseBaba:


You don't like or worship white people. But you sure want to be like them and yearn for their acceptance that you are an educated blackman.

You sure took several pages from their condescending approach to african development. At least an uncle tom knows where he/she stands. But you...!!! smh... You don't even know if you are coming or going...

We need to consult the oracle on your behalf. You're showing symptoms of being bewitched by white witches and wizards...

Hypocrite. so why do you use the internet,Mobile handset,Wear clothes,go to School which is of western Education,drive cars,look for white collar jobs instead of Subsistenance farming like your ancestors did ,go to whiteman's discovered and established Health facilites,fly aeroplane,watch TV,use computers, e.t.c. the list is endless.

I want to be like successful people not people who have failed and will give up heaven as excuse rather than accept their fault.


Give me one major contribution you and your kind .have made to influence the whiteman or the world.

I don't need their acceptance. all i want is people (blacks)to think and change their attitude.


www.jamaicaobserver.com/columns/Racism-thrives-because-black-nations-fail-_19196594

blueAgent:




Hypocrite. so why do you use the internet,Mobile handset,Wear clothes,go to School which is of western Education,drive cars,look for white collar jobs instead of Subsistenance farming like your ancestors did ,go to whiteman's discovered and established Health facilites,fly aeroplane,watch TV,use computers, e.t.c. the list is endless.

I want to be like successful people not people who have failed and will give up heaven as excuse rather than accept their fault.


Give me one major contribution you and your kind .have made to influence the whiteman or the world.

I don't need their acceptance. all i want is people (blacks)to think and change their attitude.


www.jamaicaobserver.com/columns/Racism-thrives-because-black-nations-fail-_19196594

Inferiority complex reloaded....!!! Yours is even worse. It is whiteman that gave you clothes.... Hahahahahaha..

Here is wisdom!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITTlm6ULT_Y

GooseBaba:


Inferiority complex reloaded....!!! Yours is even worse. It is whiteman that gave you clothes.... Hahahahahaha..

Clown . if you are smart disprove it.show us .that all i have mentioned were existing here in Africa before they came.

blueAgent:



Clown . if you are smart disprove it.show us .that all i have mentioned were existing here in Africa before they came.

Yeah, show me all that you mentioned that your masters were already flying Boeing 747 and using cellphones in the 1800 s....

Because of inferiority complex you can't think properly... Lolz

blueAgent:



I laugh. So you can Denial your culture and traditions.


While polygamy and civil recognition of
polygamous marriages are illegal, South African
customary law affords a generous amount of
benefits to polygamous unions, ranging from
inheritance rights to child custody, thanks to a
1998 law that allowed for such.[1][not in citation
given] South African traditionalists have been well
known to practice polygamy and the topic has
been a serious political issue in the past several
years, especially in the 2009 elections. Many of
the indigenous Bantu peoples, both Christians
and Indigenous, are polygamous and Islamic
South Africans such as the Cape Malays, Cape
Coloureds and Indian South Africans who are
Muslim also allow for polygamy.
Jacob Zuma, the current president of South
Africa, is a self-proclaimed polygamist. He has
been married five times, and is currently married
to four different women. He has reportedly
fathered 20 children among his wives and
mistresses.[not in citation given]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy_in_South_Africa


dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2064049/Polygamous-King-Swaziland-breaks-12th-wife-cheats-him.html



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfal5Fe964Y

Fine leave back to europe Dont take black man writing agriculture mathematics chemistry astronomy architecture with you.

Please dont let a door hit you for the ass!

blueAgent:





While polygamy and civil recognition of
polygamous marriages are illegal, South African
customary law affords a generous amount of
benefits to polygamous unions, ranging from
inheritance rights to child custody, thanks to a
1998 law that allowed for such.[1][not in citation
given] South African traditionalists have been well
known to practice polygamy and the topic has
been a serious political issue in the past several
years, especially in the 2009 elections. Many of
the indigenous Bantu peoples, both Christians
and Indigenous, are polygamous and Islamic
South Africans such as the Cape Malays, Cape
Coloureds and Indian South Africans who are
Muslim also allow for polygamy.
Jacob Zuma, the current president of South
Africa, is a self-proclaimed polygamist. He has
been married five times, and is currently married
to four different women. He has reportedly
fathered 20 children among his wives and
mistresses.[not in citation given]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy_in_
South_Africa

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2064049/
Polygamous-King-Swaziland-breaks-12th-wife-
cheats-him.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfal5Fe964Y


Educate yourself.

Polygamy is highest in west africa and lowest in Southern Africa, I didnt claim there's no polygamy in the region. So how is that the cause of the high HIV in the region compared to other parts with higher polygamy but low HIV, use your brain and stop spamming with useless info.

blueAgent:



I don't have time for that. this argument has gone on for too long. Like i said show me any country in Africa that U can compare to Ukraine or the poorest white country.
EU has high standards as condition for admisson into it. if U think Ukriane is poor. tell me a Country in Africa that can meet EU standard.

You have time to write rubbish and google anything supporting your warped views, but wont read anything correcting your ignorance. Makes sense that you churnout so much rubbish.

The reason they get EU membership is geo-political, getting them away from Russian influence and control, not because of the economy.

blueAgent:



Mor0n You need to Learn English comprehension.

Present Bostwana ,Lesotho and Swaziland where British protectorates adminstered by South Africa.


Bechuanaland meant the country of the Tswana
and for administrative purposes was divided into
two political entities. The northern part was
administered as the Bechuanaland Protectorate
and the southern part was administered as the
crown colony of British Bechuanaland. British
Bechuanaland was incorporated into the Cape
Colony in 1895 and now forms part of South
Africa.
The northern part, the Bechuanaland Protectorate,
had an area of 225,000 square miles (580,000
km2), and a population 120,776.
The British government originally expected to
turn over administration of the protectorate to
Rhodesia or South Africa, but Tswana opposition
left the protectorate under British rule until
independence in 1966.
The Bechuanaland Protectorate was technically a
protectorate rather than a colony. Originally the
local Tswana rulers were left in power, and the
British administration was limited to a police
force to protect Bechuanaland's borders against
other European colonial ventures. But on 9 May
1891 the British Government gave the
administration of the protectorate to the High
Commissioner for South Africa, who started to
appoint officials in Bechuanaland, and the de
facto independence of Bechuanaland ended.
The protectorate was administered from
Mafeking, creating the unusual situation of the
capital of the territory being located outside of it.
The area of Mafeking (from 1980 with the
incorporation into Bophuthatswana Mafikeng,
since 2010 Mahikeng) in which the
administration was housed was called 'The
Imperial Reserve'. In 1885, when the protectorate
was declared, Bechuanaland was bounded to the
north by the latitude of 22° south. The northern
boundary of the Protectorate was formally
extended northward by the British to include
Ngamiland, which was dominated by the Tawana
state, on 30 June 1890.[1] This claim was
formally recognised by Germany the following
day by Article III of the Heligoland-Zanzibar
Treaty, which confirmed the western boundary of
the British protectorate of Bechuanaland and the
German protectorate of South-West Africa and
also created the Caprivi strip inherited by modern
Namibia:
“


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bechuanaland_Protectorate

Go read history and stop copy pasting info you know nothing about, the country Botswana was never part of South Africa, there's no argument there. You're clearly confusing Botswana, Swaziland and lesotho with Namibia whivh got independence from SA in 1990.

SPOPOVICH:


Go read history and stop copy pasting info you know nothing about, the country Botswana was never part of South Africa, there's no argument there. You're clearly confusing Botswana, Swaziland and lesotho with Namibia whivh got independence from SA in 1990.

Like i said before. you need to learn English comprehension. when a place is a protectorate of another what does it mean.
Am done with bye.