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Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by anigbajumo(m): 4:09pm On May 18, 2016
OLADD:
If there's anybody out there who is not completely convinced about the divisive nature of Buhari's administration, such a person needs to take a cursory look at how the presidency has jettisoned all decency by negotiating with two feuding factions of the NLC in the ongoing fuel hike faceoff. For the reason best known to them, the APC government in its 11 months reign in power has not deemed it necessary to unite the labour unions, instead it has been embarking on actions that further polarize the body. Ironically, during the last May Day Parade, the same Federal Govt completely shut out the Ajero faction of the NLC but sent representations to the Wabba led parade. This clearly underscores how divisive Buhari's govt is. The implication of this is that this adminstration is poised to leave Nigeria more divided than it met it. If the pendulum swings tomorrow and the Ajero faction suddenly becomes antagonistic, where will the govt run to? It's a dangerous game.




Bro,there is nothing dangerous there.who provided the eagle square in Abuja for NLC election?? Obviously the FG,so they dnt know the NLC president.why dialogue wtith the secretary??

The president of NLC is wabba nd the vice is Amechi where Ajero is the secretary.FG is just trying to play a useless card in other to benefit their wish.

If am wrong, why drag One faction of NLC to court nd then reach an agreement with the other NLC body,does that making any iota of sense.

Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by ihatesycophant(m): 4:48pm On May 18, 2016
AZeD1:

It's not the height of insensitivity but doing your work.
The more frationilized labour is, the better for government.
I have said this over and over again, it's not in the best interest of government to be united.
The onus lies with labour to be united.

The fact that the government can fractonilize labour means labour leaders are not fighting for the masses but themselves.
Better for the Gov't but to the detriment of employees because there will be no one to fight their course, just like the issue of minimum wage, if their is no strong NLC leader to fight the course, FG may pay lip service to it, later they may say, we don't know who and who to negotiate with and invariably who will suffer it, if not employees. FG is just being smart, if during labour's day they didn't recognise one faction and now trying to bring it in just to cause confusion and make the agitation non-effective, then the downtrodden will be at the receiving end, not those being fed through government purses.
Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by jiddodo: 5:07pm On May 18, 2016
UmuEri:
thank you for that question, what is going on is that the FG has also deploy the instrument of media and propaganda.

The strikes are very much alive my brother. As i am talking to you, all the schools in Asaba Delta State are closed down including most private school.

The reason is because the Nigeria Union of Teachers (NUT) is part of the Ayuba Waba led NLC.

And offcours, you know ASUU has also declared total strike, and all the universities has been deserted.
Same is d case here in Kano. All LGEAs were shut down, screening was stopped, govt schs closed.
Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by OLADD: 5:36pm On May 18, 2016
cyprex:
The Op just made an inglorious attempt to mislead the generally gullible populace.
It is rather preposterous to raise a 'conspiracy theory' against the government over the inability of labour leaders to work together.
In this attempt, the OP created illusions, concocted half truth and fabricated outright falsehood in-order to smear the Buhari led administration.

@OP, kindly note that the Govt. did not choose which faction to meet with but invited all labour leaders. The Wabba led NLC staged a work out volutarily

Just take a look at your post again. A recognised faction of NLC decided to stage a walk-out and all the govt could do was to start negotiating with a parallel faction and you think that upholds similitude of decency? Common!
Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by OLADD: 7:28pm On May 18, 2016
hotdi:


Because government is pursuing its interest. NLC gave them the loop-hole.
Do u think FG should fold its alms?

As a point of correction, govt should be fighting for the interest of the citizenry rather than pursuing self-serving ones and that's what Buhari administration is doing.
Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by poiZon: 8:03pm On May 18, 2016
Stalwert:
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Thrash from the toilet when Jogogoro was splitting Nigeria into 2 religions and various ethnicity why were quiet?


mumu how many religions were there before jonathan became the president?
how many did he create before leaving?
zombie do u even know d meaning of religion?
Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by OLADD: 8:32pm On May 18, 2016
poiZon:



mumu how many religions were there before jonathan became the president?
how many did he create before leaving?
zombie do u even know d meaning of religion?

Nice rew
Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by OLADD: 8:35pm On May 18, 2016
poiZon:



mumu how many religions were there before jonathan became the president?
how many did he create before leaving?
zombie do u even know d meaning of religion?

Nice response. I intentionally chose not to reply that guy.
Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by Stalwert: 9:05pm On May 18, 2016
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poiZon:



mumu how many religions were there before jonathan became the president?
how many did he create before leaving?
zombie do u even know d meaning of religion?
[/s]

Comprehension is definitely not your strong suit. One cannot begin to demystify your ignorance of gargantuan proportions.

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Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by poiZon: 9:11pm On May 18, 2016
Stalwert:
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Comprehension is definitely not your strong suit. One cannot begin to demystify your ignorance of gargantuan proportions.


1. what is religion?

2. mention the types of religion in nigeria?

3. mention the religions gej in nigeria?

your time starts NOW!
Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by Stalwert: 9:23pm On May 18, 2016
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poiZon:



1. what is religion?

2. mention the types of religion in nigeria?

3. mention the religions gej in nigeria?

your time starts NOW!

[/s]

Explaining the point being made to you is like explaining quantum physics to a fly.
Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by tbaba1234: 3:43am On May 19, 2016
OLADD:


But government can further polarise the Union to pave way for the actualisation of its own oppressive agenda by negotiating with two warring factions at the same time?

Only one party was willing to negotiate.The other said 86 or nothing. The government negotiated with the ones willing to discuss.
Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by Tokety7: 7:00am On May 19, 2016
OLADD:


Agreed Buhari was not there when they held the election, must he further polarise the union by negotiating with warring factions?

In otherwords u are saying it would have been better if he wasn't dealing with anyone of them right. Anyway, not only a faction of NLC ignored the strike. TUC, NUPENG, PENGASSAN also ignored.
Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by OLADD: 8:58am On May 19, 2016
Tokety7:


In otherwords u are saying it would have been better if he wasn't dealing with anyone of them right. Anyway, not only a faction of NLC ignored the strike. TUC, NUPENG, PENGASSAN also ignored.

Everyone knows Wabba-led NLC is the officially recognised one. I repeat, dealing with two factions simultaneously is a height of treachery. It's condemnable and repugnant.
Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by Tokety7: 9:02am On May 19, 2016
OLADD:


Everyone knows Wabba-led NLC is the officially recognised one. I repeat, dealing with two factions simultaneously is a height of treachery. It's condemnable and repugnant.

U are wrong. Not everyone. If not, the second faction wouldn't even have followers at all.
Where u see treachery, I see stupidity and foolishness on the path of NLC for not keeping their house in order. As it is at the Federal level so it is here in rivers where NLC has two distinct factions. It's in the interest of govt that nlc should break up in pieces. The more the piece the better for govt. Stop hating, instead Channel ur energy in urging NLC to arrange herself properly.
Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by mapet: 9:03am On May 19, 2016
OLADD:



allthingsgood:


The way you wailers think is quite pathetic and silly

Labour was fractionalized long before buhari or apc came into the presidency. So this your ridiculous attempt to blame fg for NLC issues is very silly. sometimes I think you wailers suffer from selective amnesia
Firstly, I am not a wailer but a concerned Nigerian who's after a prosperous, egalitarian, unpolarized, progressive and peaceful nation.

Secondly, yes it's true NLC was fractionalized before the advent of Buhari's administration but the last govt did not officialize or magnify the divisions. By negotiating with two factions of the same union, APC has proved to the world that they can even dine with Satan just to have their way. That's satanism at its peak.

1. First off, you are really a wailer and you do not sound like a concerned Nigerian
2. You sound either confused or simply irrational. You could be well be within your perogative to be a wailer and argue your position intelligently and with facts. Your choice of sentiments is a bottom low

That said

It is logical, wise and magnanimous of FG to call both factions into negotiation, for one simple reason, none should be left out. The FG could have chosen to recognise a faction, yet chose not to do so. A reasonable person should have seen the act of the FG has being more pragmatic and nationalistic.

You should try to sound less ridiculous in your arguements. What is the meaning of this statement
yes it's true NLC was fractionalized before the advent of Buhari's administration but the last govt did not officialize or magnify the divisions
. This is terribly absurd.....

If you're not lazy, you should research the following, and later come back and tell us what APC/PMB's government did to Labour
1. Have you bothered to ask why Labour is factionalised?
2. Have you bothered to ask what Ayuba faction put on the table that was totally rejected by both FG delegates and Ajaero faction?
3. What Ayuba faction did with the over N2b that GEJ's government gave to labour for the housing estate, which is unaccounted for and the land still empty? (Tip - this is one of the grouse that led to the fractions)

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Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by mapet: 9:05am On May 19, 2016
allthingsgood:


OLADD:


The NLC as far as Nigeria is concerned is one. So, if there's a feud among vested stakeholders, govt efforts should gear toward mending fences instead of callously polarising them. That's the essence of my post. OK?
This is even a more stupid comment to make
It is neither government's job nor in its interest to attempt to settle NLC. Government does not interfere with the internal dealings of labour

I repeat, your post is ridiculous!

Let me concur with my favorite catch-word - It is "ridoncuelous"
Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by mapet: 9:07am On May 19, 2016
OrlandoOwoh:

OLADD:


I am afraid that's the major reason why the strike is ineffective. NLC is a divided house.
Was Buhari there when the NLC election held? You should advise NLC to drop their differences, not blaming Buhari.

Bros,

The bobo is fantastically ignorant (not wanting to say it in Yoruba smiley)...

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Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by OLADD: 9:09am On May 19, 2016
tbaba1234:


Only one party was willing to negotiate.The other said 86 or nothing. The government negotiated with the ones willing to discuss.

Ajero faction's stance was not based on principle but an attempt to water down the towering influence of Wabba faction. I think the faction that stood its ground on N86 price retention was more sincere. The rationale for the geometric increase from N86 to N145 to me, negates all logic.
Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by mapet: 9:11am On May 19, 2016
greggng:


UmuEri:
:
NLC is not divided, Ayuba controls 33 out of 35 affiliate unions, leaving just only 2 for Ajero supposed faction.

Note, that was why the Ayuba led NLC worked out of the meeting with the FG on Tuesday immediately the SGF recognised and called Ayuba a factional leader.

This got Ayuba infuriated, and he immediately stood up and worked-out of the meeting. As he stood up, all his colleagues stood and followed him immediately.

The meeting did not hold because the FG wanted to further polarize NLC, and Ayuba understood that and staged a Work-out.

Note, i was there Live.

Stop misinforming Nigerians. The reason why he worked was clear. The. Federal govt wants to discuss salary increase and paliatives measures while as he want to discuss fuel subsidy reversal and reversal in the electricity hike. I hope this will set the record straight

Thank you bros, ppl can lie......

He also proposed a write-off of the N2.1b loan GEJ gave to labour, which the FG flately refused
Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by mapet: 9:11am On May 19, 2016
focus7:
Op the only I can describe you and your post is "Ode"

Bros,

Haba! why are you spoiling his bad name grin grin grin
Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by OLADD: 10:57am On May 19, 2016
mapet:


1. First off, you are really a wailer and you do not sound like a concerned Nigerian
2. You sound either confused or simply irrational. You could be well be within your perogative to be a wailer and argue your position intelligently and with facts. Your choice of sentiments is a bottom low

That said

It is logical, wise and magnanimous of FG to call both factions into negotiation, for one simple reason, none should be left out. The FG could have chosen to recognise a faction, yet chose not to do so. A reasonable person should have seen the act of the FG has being more pragmatic and nationalistic.

You should try to sound less ridiculous in your arguements. What is the meaning of this statement . This is terribly absurd.....

If you're not lazy, you should research the following, and later come back and tell us what APC/PMB's government did to Labour
1. Have you bothered to ask why Labour is factionalised?
2. Have you bothered to ask what Ayuba faction put on the table that was totally rejected by both FG delegates and Ajaero faction?
3. What Ayuba faction did with the over N2b that GEJ's government gave to labour for the housing estate, which is unaccounted for and the land still empty? (Tip - this is one of the grouse that led to the fractions)

Anybody that sees how lengthy your epistle looks might easily make a mistake of believing you made sense not knowing it's nothing but empty bunkum.

Now, take a faddy look at these;

1. Negotiating with two feuding factions of a Union over a single subject for the purpose of currying their favour is nothing but a shameful act of divisiveness. If talking to the two factions was so imperative as you claimed, why did the same Buhari govt ignore the Ajero faction on Workers' May Day Celebration? Does that ring a bell in your ears? What that simply connotes is that this administration had given tactical approval to Wabba's authentic NLC from inception but decided to court Ajero faction surreptitiously just to cause further divisions in the rank and file of NLC. I insist that's a condemnable act.

2. There's nothing the Wabba's NLC placed before the FG other than complete reversal of the price increase. The govt was trying to be smart by mingling Minimum Wage negotiation with fuel price hike. Talks on minimum wage had gone off before the latest price increase hence, the two are separate and incongruent. It was on the initial price of N86 both factions of the NLC premised their respective agitations for N56,000 and N90,000 MW respectively and not the current price of N145 if you care to know.

3. On the alleged N2b given to Wabba-led NLC by Jonathan's govt, that shouldn't be your headache but Buhari's. Has the EFCC gone moribund not to beam its searchlight on such fraud, if it indeed exists?
To further buttress how contradictory your statements are, you are now suggesting that Buhari is ready to negotiate with a corrupt Wabba-led NLC?

No matter how smartly you play around with words, what's bad is bad. The Nigerian govt is out to cause further divisions in labour just to silence any opposition to its oppressive, elitist, imperial, self-centered and trial-and-error governance. Simple.
Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by mapet: 12:13pm On May 19, 2016
OLADD:


Anybody that sees how lengthy your epistle looks might easily make a mistake of believing you made sense not knowing it's nothing but empty bunkum.

Now, take a faddy look at these;

1. Negotiating with two feuding factions of a Union over a single subject for the purpose of currying their favour is nothing but a shameful act of divisiveness. If talking to the two factions was so imperative as you claimed, why did the same Buhari govt ignore the Ajero faction on Workers' May Day Celebration? Does that ring a bell in your ears? What that simply connotes is that this administration had given tactical approval to Wabba's authentic NLC from inception but decided to court Ajero faction surreptitiously just to cause further divisions in the rank and file of NLC. I insist that's a condemnable act.

2. There's nothing the Wabba's NLC placed before the FG other than complete reversal of the price increase. The govt was trying to be smart by mingling Minimum Wage negotiation with fuel price hike. Talks on minimum wage had gone off before the latest price increase hence, the two are separate and incongruent. It was on the initial price of N86 both factions of the NLC premised their respective agitations for N56,000 and N90,000 MW respectively and not the current price of N145 if you care to know.

3. On the alleged N2b given to Wabba-led NLC by Jonathan's govt, that shouldn't be your headache but Buhari's. Has the EFCC gone moribund not to beam its searchlight on such fraud, if it indeed exists?
To further buttress how contradictory your statements are, you are now suggesting that Buhari is ready to negotiate with a corrupt Wabba-led NLC?

No matter how smartly you play around with words, what's bad is bad. The Nigerian govt is out to cause further divisions in labour just to silence any opposition to its oppressive, elitist, imperial, self-centered and trial-and-error governance. Simple.

At least I get a credit of smarts in "playing with words"........ You? You argued very unintelligently abinitio...........

1. If your point two is not outright attempt at sophistry, it will be a shame to twist what is already in public domain. Except you have not been following media (which is obvious) you cannot deny the statement below;

Joe Ajaero, factional president of the Nigeria Labour Congress (NLC), has denounced the proposed mass action by the Ayuba Waba-led splinter group against the fuel price hike. He told journalists the timing and motive of the proposed strike action was wrong and accused the Waba-led NLC of asking that the federal government write off the N2 billion loan collected by the group for the purchase of buses in 2012.

“When you are asking that the loan given to you in 2012, which had not been paid back should be written off, we believe that the action has already been sold out before it takes off.
https://www.newsbreak.ng/2016/05/nlc-runs-trouble-proposed-strike-action-faction-backs/

I know your comprehension capacity can decide to holiday when it is critically needed, but to twist facts and what you assume I meant, is shallow. Whatever "corruption" in NLC is not my bother, they have internal mechanisms to address that. What I simply put, is the reason for what factionalised NLC, what Waba-faction brought to the table.

2. Unfortunately yo do not let you understand that in negotiations, parties come with both mandates and concessions. Your misunderstanding of why a minimum wage discussion should come in that negotiation simply shows you have a lot to learn. You condemn the FG for proposing to discuss minimum wage, yet conveniently left out the demand (albeit belated and opportunistic) as quoted below

“Again, we demanded that the electricity tariff imposed on the people last January should also be reversed. But, government said they were not ready to discuss such things.

3. So if we got your drift, the FG should only negotiate with Waba faction? That is simply your personal opinion. That opinion I believe is not well thought through........no wonder you're on NL and competent people are running the government. That the FG attended a factions event on Labour day and did not the other translates to nothing. The FG did not make any statement to that effect. What is most unfortunate is your warped reasoning. How will you imagine the FG will give approval (tacit or public) to a faction of Labour when both factions are in court?
Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by OLADD: 5:56pm On May 19, 2016
mapet:


At least I get a credit of smarts in "playing with words"........ You? You argued very unintelligently abinitio...........

1. If your point two is not outright attempt at sophistry, it will be a shame to twist what is already in public domain. Except you have not been following media (which is obvious) you cannot deny the statement below;

https://www.newsbreak.ng/2016/05/nlc-runs-trouble-proposed-strike-action-faction-backs/

I know your comprehension capacity can decide to holiday when it is critically needed, but to twist facts and what you assume I meant, is shallow. Whatever "corruption" in NLC is not my bother, they have internal mechanisms to address that. What I simply put, is the reason for what factionalised NLC, what Waba-faction brought to the table.

2. Unfortunately yo do not let you understand that in negotiations, parties come with both mandates and concessions. Your misunderstanding of why a minimum wage discussion should come in that negotiation simply shows you have a lot to learn. You condemn the FG for proposing to discuss minimum wage, yet conveniently left out the demand (albeit belated and opportunistic) as quoted below



3. So if we got your drift, the FG should only negotiate with Waba faction? That is simply your personal opinion. That opinion I believe is not well thought through........no wonder you're on NL and competent people are running the government. That the FG attended a factions event on Labour day and did not the other translates to nothing. The FG did not make any statement to that effect. What is most unfortunate is your warped reasoning. How will you imagine the FG will give approval (tacit or public) to a faction of Labour when both factions are in court?

Be steadfast in defending the atrocities of Buhari's govt but remember there's a reward for everything. I won't bother to prolong this conversation with you any longer but take it or leave it, this is 1985 scenario playing out and we know how it ended. I rest my case here.
Re: NLC Strike: Apc Is Setting A Dangerous Precedence. by hotdi(m): 6:48pm On May 20, 2016
OLADD:


As a point of correction, govt should be fighting for the interest of the citizenry rather than pursuing self-serving ones and that's what Buhari administration is doing.
U really can't stop government from pursuing policies it presume as good for the pple u know.
To them, there are doing the right thing that will make life better for the people later. To us it is anti people. wink

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