@ Dreamsinc you're such a STAR! I Love you sis!!!!!

@safe, I swear your kolo is flashing red!!M how does your DH cope with you? Na Chinese medicine I want got me cracking up you're a case!!!

@ All hope you're all good!

Love and kisses from moi!!

Greetings my fruitful mothers, make una help me o. Today is CD15 & i am already having some aches in my boobs, na wetin na? Abii DH don over touch thingz?
Meanwhile i found this link very interesting & thot i should share it
http://www.herbal-clinic.com/faq.htm 

www.herbal-clinic.com

Please find below a list of vitamins and supplement for improving your chances of conceiving for both men and women. I have collated information from hours of online research and hopefully have the majority of the latest info added here, as well as the required dosages (often in ranges as usage varies even with the experts!). Please though note that I am not a doctor and this is what I took (and it worked for me), so feel free to do more of your own research and adjust to what suits you and your partner. Please also feel free to add further info if you come across something. I have kept it simple as I often find there is just too much info to wade through, when you just want answers, but if you do google searches, you will find more info on all.

As both eggs and sperm take around 3 months to make, it is advisable to start taking most of these 3 months prior to conceiving/treatment.

General info for both:
Drink at least 6 glasses of water a day (very very important). Drink lots of green tea (for the antioxidants), but don’t drink with iron or folic acid as tannin inhibits absorption. No caffeine -even decaf coffee/tea contains some caffeine – rather stick to herbal teas (and make sure these are true herbal teas and not black tea flavoured). No alcohol. No smoking. Try and eat organic food or at least non genetically modified food. Get some exercise to improve blood flow and wellbeing. Avoid strong chemicals and try and use natural products for skin (coconut oil for moisturiser) and general household (e.g. white vinegar for cleaning). If using a lubricant – use egg white rather than store bought ones as the latter may damage sperm.

For Women, these are the most important ones, on a daily basis, take:

Zinc 15 mg.
Take prior to conception and throughout pregnancy. Critical to the rapid development of the egg within the follicle especially with IVF where many eggs are developing at the same time. Helps prevent miscarriages.

Vitamin C: 500mg - 750mg.
Take prior to conception and throughout pregnancy. Corrects luteal-phase-defect as it boosts progesterone and oestrogen levels. Improves pregnancy rates and helps prevents miscarriages. Too much Vitamin C can dry up cervical mucous

Vitamin E: 200 IUIs.
Take prior to conception. Improves egg quality

Vitamin D : Between 1500 IUIs - 2000 IUIs .
Take prior to conception and throughout pregnancy. Ideal level for improved fertility is between 50 - 80 ng/ml of Vitamin D in your blood. Vitamin D3 is best form of the vitamin. Ensure that you also have taken Vitamin A and K to balance the Vitamin D. Improves fertility. Not more than 4000 IUIs per day. Very high levels (240000 IUIs) shown to reduce fertility. Problems arise when you have too much vitamin D and too little vitamins A and K

Vitamin B6: 10mg per day.
Take with other B vitamins to help with the absorption - especially B12. Can increase to 50mg when short term booster is needed. Take prior to conception and throughout pregnancy. Zinc helps absorption. Lengthens luteal phase and helps produce progesterone. The set tolerable upper limit is 100mgs per day. Higher doses can cause nerve ending damage. B6 can disguise a B12 deficiency/anaemia, so increase your B12 if taking higher doses of B6. Higher levels of B12 (than the RDA) are safe to take. Do not take more than 100mgs unless prescribed by a doctor. Higher doses should only be taken for a short term period

Vitamin B complex – take a multivitamin with around the RDA of each in it.
Take prior to conception and throughout pregnancy. Balances out hormones and encourages pregnancy. Listed here are the RDAs for females:
Vitamin B1 (thiamine) 1.1mg
Vitamin B2 (riboflavin) 1.1mg
Vitamin B3 (niacin or niacinamide) 14mg
Vitamin B5 (pantothenic acid) 5mg
Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine, pyridoxal, or pyridoxamine, or pyridoxine hydrochloride) 1.3mg
Vitamin B7 (biotin) 30mcg
Vitamin B9 (folic acid) 400mcg
Vitamin B12 (various cobalamins; commonly cyanocobalamin in vitamin supplements) 2.4mcg

Vitamin A: 700IUIs – 900IUIs.
Take prior to conception and throughout pregnancy. Promotes better cervical fluid. Assists the follicles in maturing properly. Contains important antioxidants. Important for DNA replication. Do not exceed this dose (so if included in a multivitamin, do not take extra). Avoid the synthetic version of vitamin A - high levels (10,000 IUs + a day) have been shown to increase the chances of birth defects

Selenium: 100ug twice a day = total 200ug.
Take prior to conception and throughout pregnancy. Promotes implantation, prevents miscarriage. Don't exceed dose as can be toxic
Myo-Inositol: 2g twice a day = total 4g (2000mg) per day.
Taken from 3 months prior to conception. Improves egg quality. Helps restore fertility in woman with PCOS. https://sites.google.com/site/miscarriageresearch/supplements-and-miscarriage/d-chiro-inositol

Melatonin: 3mg per day taken at night.
Take for 1-3 months prior to conception. Improves egg quality by reducing the level of an oxidizing agent called 8-OHdG. Don’t take long term.

L'Arginine: 500mg - 2000mg per day (i.e. 0.5g - 2g).
Take for 1-3 months prior to conception. Improves egg quality and uterine blood flow.

DHEA: 25mg three times per day = total 75mg.
Start on lower doses and build up. Start taking at least 3 months prior to conception (I found 6 months better). Stop at pregnancy (or EC in IVF). Improves egg quality. Usually for older ladies (40yrs+) with diminished ovarian reserves

Iron: 14mg.
Take prior to conception and throughout pregnancy. Take with Vitamin C. Tannin inhibits the absorption, so don't take with drinks that contain tannin e.g. green tea. A deficiency can reduce fertility by 50%

Folic acid (= Vitamin B9): 400 micrograms (0.4 milligrams) twice a day = total 800ug.
Take prior to conception and throughout pregnancy. Tannin inhibits the absorption, so don't take with drinks that contain tannin e.g. green tea. Folic acid, sometimes called folate, is a B vitamin (B9) found mostly in leafy green vegetables like kale and spinach, orange juice, and enriched grains. Taken prior to conception and during early pregnancy reduces the risk of a serious neural tube defect in the baby by up to 70%. May increase pregnancy rates and prevent miscarriages. Can take up to 4000 micrograms per day prescribed if family history of neural defects

Fish oil (Omega Oil/essential fatty acids): 1g - 5g per day (i.e. about 200mg - 1000mg).
Take prior to conception and throughout pregnancy. Can take some flax seed and some fish oil tablets. Anti-inflammatory. Improves blood flow to uterus. Reduction of NK cell activity (take 5g dosage for this). Use body only fish oil as liver may contain mercury (i.e. not cod liver oil). Also Cod liver oil has too much vitamin A in it, so avoid. Be careful not to take too much if on blood thinners.

Evening Primrose Oil: 1000mg per day for first 14 days of cycle. Stop taking at ovulation up until next menstruation.
Stop at pregnancy. Increases quality and quantity of cervical mucus. Anti-inflammatory reduces narrowing of blood vessels & promotes blood flow. Can bring on uterine contractions and thus the start of your menstrual cycle

Co Q10/ Co Enzyme Q10: 200mg - 600mg.
Take prior to conception and throughout pregnancy - but scale down to maximum 200mg dose on falling pregnant. (Costco has best price). Improving egg quality because of its powerful effect on regenerating the mitochondria - the tiny energy factories of each cell - known to be a factor in age-related infertility. Reduces the risk of pre eclampsia.

Aspirin: 75mg.
Take prior to conception and throughout pregnancy but stop at least 24 hours before giving birth (need the clotting factor). Anti-inflammatory. Stops minute blood clots forming in the uterus (which could starve embryo of oxygen).

Manganese – take RDA, as part of a multivitamin
Deficiency may lead to defective ovulation. Take with Vitamin C (but note – it competes with iron for absorption)

Magnesium- take RDA, as part of a multivitamin
Needed to help the pituitary and ovaries produce the high levels of oestrogen and progesterone needed to secure pregnancy until placenta takes over.

Other supplements which could be taken:
Wheatgrass – Whatever the dosage is on the tin
Full of antioxidants. Mostly anecdotal evidence as to the effect on fertility.

N-Acetyl Cysteine: 1.2g per day.
For woman with PCOS

D-Chiro-Inositol: 600mg
Take from 2 months prior to conception. For woman with PCOS - restores ovulation and helps with other aspects of the syndrome

Alpha-Lipolic Acid: 600mg twice a day = 1200mg total
For woman with PCOS

Bee Propolis: 500mg
Extremely anti-inflammatory therefore excellent for endometriosis sufferers

Royal Jelly: 500mg three times a day = 1500mg
Improves egg quality although mostly anecdotal evidence

Cough medicine: Two teaspoons (200mg) three times per day, taken orally. Five days before and day of ovulation (6 days total)Guaifenesin must be the only active ingredient e.g. Robitussin brand. Loosens the cervical mucus helping sperm on their journey. Counteracts negative Clomid effects outlined here. Clomid associated with less cervical fluid, thinner uterine lining and development of hostile mucus. If taking Clomid, wait until day after last Clomid pill.

Vitex (Chaste berry): 35mg
Take for first 14 days of cycle in morning. Normalises your menstruation cycle. Restarts periods which have stopped. Lengthens luteal phase defects. Lowers high prolactin levels. If you have a regular cycle do not take as it may mess up the cycle. Don't take with Clomid - or any drug like Clomid - they counter act each other.

Human growth hormone: 4mg per day
From day 21 of previous cycle to day of pregnancy test. May help poor responders improve. Varying success has been reported. Given as part of IVF protocol - so prescribed and monitored is advised


For Men, these are the most important ones, on a daily basis, take:
Vary dosages according to severity of semen issues. For higher doses, take half morning and half evening. Remember it takes 3 months to make semen

Zinc: 15mg -50mg
Higher sperm count. If you take higher levels of zinc for more than a few weeks, add 1-3mg copper to prevent copper deficiency

Vitamin C: 200mg - 1000mg
Less clumping of sperm. Higher quantity (up to 140%) and better quality sperm

Vitamin E: 400 IUIs -800 IUIs.
Improves semen quality and motility by up to 2.5 times

Vitamin D: Between 600 IUI - 1000 IUI
Vitamin D3 is best form of the vitamin. Ensure that you also have taken Vitamin A and K (or have sufficient of these) to balance the Vitamin D. Improves sperm mobility and morphology. Not more than 4000 IUIs per day should be taken. Problems arise when you have too much vitamin D and too little vitamins A and K

Vitamin B Complex: 1 per day - around the RDA for each component.

Vitamin B12: 10-1000mcg
Helps balance testosterone & LH/FSH secretions. Higher quantity (one study up from 20 to 100 million/ml on 1000mcg dose)

L'Arginine: 200mg - 1000mg per day
A natural Viagra - improves erectile function, Increases quantity of sperm (by up to 250%). Improves sperm motility & health. Avoid if you have herpes as can promote an outbreak

Co Q10/ Co Enzyme Q10: 30mg-300mg
Improves sperm motility

Pyconogenol: 25mg-200mg
Improves sperm morphology by up to 40%

Selenium: 70mcg-200mcg
Can double sperm count. Improves quality of sperm. Toxic in high doses so stick to max 200mcg

L-Carnitine: 1g - 3g per day
Improves sperm count. Improves sperm motility

Vitamin A (take as part of a multivitamin) - Take RDA
Improves sperm production

Omega Oil/essential fatty acids: 1g - 7g per day (i.e. approximately 200mg - 1200mg )
Take a mix of flax seed oil and fish oil. Improves sperm count. Use body only fish oil as liver may contain mercury (i.e. not cod liver oil). Also Cod liver oil has too much vitamin A in it. Be careful not to take too much if on blood thinners.

Good luck everybody!!!

alwaysT n mamaT were una dey nw?abi na unto belle things

hey all!

its been a while ,i hope every one has been good and still keeping the faith.
Its amazing how pregnancy changes one,my neighbour who's in her first trimester has become all mushy mushy , i found out that apart from her cravings she finds herself crying each time she's watching a love story/movie on tv and then she picks up the phone to tell me all about it (crying of course)like its some kind of serious issue...Daah

its weird what your hormones get to do to you at this stage,considering she used to be a ''tough,dont-mess with me'' kinda person who hardly watched TV

@ Omonikiba
Regarding my previous posts (page 244)

i couldn't get the entire details on the fertility thing ,apparently the lady is in the states attending some seminars but i managed to get in touch with my Sister in-law who gave me her email contact details, if you guys would like to reach her by email organicfruitfuls@gmail.com, i think she can explain further.

Now back to why i actually came back , cause i think you ladies might be of help here....

for the past one month or so i have been having a few pregnancy symptoms , sleepless nights, one late period,slightly nauseous in the mornings but that's only when i'm brushing my teeth. i havent really gained any weight , infact i'm actually trying to lose some pounds before the summer.

I don't want to go for any tests, at least not yet (the reason is because its quite complicated,)

So i just wanna know if one can have these signs and still not be pregnancy related?

@Safe06 nd moyinoluwa tkz dearies

@Rashy fertilaid is a herbal medicine dat dat help 2 regulate & balance one mestral cycle, its also contain nutrition support vitamins dat is require wen ttc. I used it wen my af heavier dan usual & irregular, its helped balance my hormones & I'm now very regular. I only took 2 cups which lasted 4 2 months, 3tab daily. U can google it 4 more infor. @all I av gone 4 d blood hpt test o, it still said bfn, kai I just wasted my 1k, I nor carry d result reach house o cos make dh 4 nor see am. I dey vex but its well.

@Goldenbaby, I bought EPO here, in Abuja, for N2,400.
@Twingirls, I'm glad you tried and liked it! It's safer to look for cinnamon sticks, you grind them by yourself. I get them here in Park n Shop.
@Beetle, hugs dear. You made me smile. Thanxxxxx

@beetie gud1 ,but som1 nids 2 get all dis?plz tell me more.tkz
@berrybras tkz so much but y did u stop takin it since no Bfp yet nd plz do dey distribute 2 9ja?Hugs!

@Rashy I stopped taking it cos of d cos & I took it 2 balance my hormones, since result came back normal doc den place me on pregnacare conception, dat's wat I'm taking now. I don't know if dey distribute 2 9ja but I bought from here 7k.

@beetle,lol,na true na,na d chinese own go better. Hmmm,all diz drugs nd supplements u suggested,na for only м̣̣̥̇̊ε̲̣̣̣̥̊ 1 person?its not a small something oooo. God help us.
@rashybaby,UW,minyle,u sabi ask questions oooo,shuuuu,sometimes u could ask uncle google,if not I wee remove goldenbaby's shaky shaky crown nd crown u as d new shaky shaky. Lol.
@uzoo,lol,that ur neighbour na actress ooo. Well,I don't think its preggy hormone if not wetin I wan call my own,I no carry belle bur when I'm watching those catwalk kids in Toddlers n Tiaras on TLC(dstv),na so my eyes go full with water(thank God na only ma dey dey house watch am,if not na winchy dem for dey call м̣̣̥̇̊ε̲̣̣̣̥̊).

@berrybras u r a darlin,lot of hugs!
@Safe06 haba!u don vex?abeg let me ask o.if i read abt drugs on Google,i still nid 2 ask mamas in d aous.so wont jst conclude on it....abi nobe so?

@sae06,Aamin.@all,i dey hail o.

Morning everyyyy! @alwaystrue, ur bfp is @ur doorstep. @safe baby, r prayers were right on time, may our merciful Father answer us all.

Pls can someone confirm where the MFM crusade 4 expectant mothers will take place? Cos one said Prayer city aπϑ the other Yaba. Power must change hands aπϑ I gaaaaatz to be there. "I was glad when they said unto me, let us go into the house of the Lord"

A lot is happening o! How many person fit type....pls pls @berry do not give in to soul-torment. Brace urself up. The best is here. Pls @always come aπϑ enrich us with the Word. The thirst for it is high. Love u all, BFP na my new alias ooo.

Jummy4real:
Dear fruitful ladies,

Jummy4real(f): 9:06pm On May 08
ear fruitful ladies,

I must confess u guys are doing a great job and my prayer is that may God answer our prayers as soon as possible. I'm a long time member and silent reader.

Pls I need your help concerning Asherman Surgery Procedure.

Pls has anybody done Asherman surgery/Laparoscopy here in Nigeria b4, if yes, which doctor did it 4 u, what was d procedure like, what was ur experience, were u able to go home same day after d surgery and lastly were u able to give birth after †ђξ treatment? Hope to hear from you.
Baby dust to us.

Hi babe, if you look at the top of the page, you will see a search button, just type in asherman syndrome and all the posts its been discussed in on this forum will come up, then you can contact anyone that was discussing it to shed more light

Cheers

@berrybass...dot loose hope since af is stil missing in action. i kn dt baba God is upto sth in ur life. a friend of mine is preg now. according to her she tested negative with 3hpt and 2 blood test within one to 2 weeks she mised her period and was later tested positive on both hpt and blood on the 3rd week. so my dear sis,pls keep ur faith alive and b positive. it is wel wit u dearie

well-done babes

Hmmmm Beetlebaby i no sure say person go get space for food after im swallow all these sups. Welldone babe and tanx.
@all make una no mind Berrybass, ur name sef dey make Five Alive hungry me u fit quit ttc? We all go thru that phase it comes and goes, na ur twins dey disturb u ,its well with u dear .
MamaT u don go meet Udoka abi? Ok I'll tell my mummy for you ***sobbing**.
Safebaby how u dey my personal person.

My dearest e-sisters, numerous to mention. I have been here with you though on other sections. I am really learning more and more in the school of the Holy Spirit so I have been posting more on the religious section.
I can see we are all doing well. For all those who asked for me from their posts and those who asked for me from their heart, thanks o.

@Hawtmummie, AMEN!!!!! Na correct word you speak so. Faith is the substance of things hoped for and evidence of things not seen is beginning to make a deeper meaning to me now. Substance is what we hold on to and evidence is the proof. The word of God is our substance for our babies and evidence I am a mother irrespective of the lies of the Devil and though I am yet to see it. Amen somebody.

Hmmmmn, Na so I ask God wetin I go tell you mothers and papas yesterday, especially after seeing @Iyabetajos post and I just enter Joel 2:8 from my device. I am really not sure if this is for anyone but I will say it all the same. I was wondering how that works till I read the rst of the verses. Please mother, I need you to brood over these verses today and I pray the Holy Spirit will bear much fruit through the word.


Joel 2:18-29
18 Then the Lord will pity his people
and jealously guard the honor of his land.
19 The Lord will reply,
“Look! I am sending you grain and new wine and olive oil,
enough to satisfy your needs.
You will no longer be an object of mockery
among the surrounding nations.
20 I will drive away these armies from the north.
I will send them into the parched wastelands.
Those in the front will be driven into the Dead Sea,
and those at the rear into the Mediterranean.
The stench of their rotting bodies will rise over the land.”

Surely the Lord has done great things!
21 Don’t be afraid, my people.
Be glad now and rejoice,
for the Lord has done great things.
22 Don’t be afraid, you animals of the field,
for the wilderness pastures will soon be green.
The trees will again be filled with fruit;
fig trees and grapevines will be loaded down once more.
23 Rejoice, you people of Jerusalem!
Rejoice in the Lord your God!
For the rain he sends demonstrates his faithfulness.
Once more the autumn rains will come,
as well as the rains of spring.
24 The threshing floors will again be piled high with grain,
and the presses will overflow with new wine and olive oil.

25 The Lord says, “I will give you back what you lost
to the swarming locusts, the hopping locusts,
the stripping locusts, and the cutting locusts.[d]
It was I who sent this great destroying army against you.
26 Once again you will have all the food you want,
and you will praise the Lord your God,
who does these miracles for you.
Never again will my people be disgraced.
27 Then you will know that I am among my people Israel,
that I am the Lord your God, and there is no other.
Never again will my people be disgraced.

The Lord’s Promise of His Spirit
28 [e]“Then, after doing all those things,
I will pour out my Spirit upon all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy.
Your old men will dream dreams,
and your young men will see visions.
29 In those days I will pour out my Spirit
even on servants—men and women alike.

Great parents of prophesying sons and daughter, make the word of God your substance and evidence of what you are going to see very shortly. Lately some of our sisters have been reproached and called barren and other names.
GOD has said never again will you be disgraced! LAI LAI! Ah! People are trying the patience of God. God has said He is sending rain, both teh former and the latter rain, I mean He is making up for all the 'lost time' you think you have lost. Spring (former) comes before autumn (latter), He is sending you the rains of all the seasons you have missed or lost.
Now after you don born teh children so, na unique better ajebo children them go come be wey go tell you say mummy and daddy, I am coming first in school and e go be so abi no be prophesy be that? Abi dem go tell you say Mummy and Daddy we are moving to another new better tech house next month and e go be so, no be prophesy be that, or Daddy do not do that thing, it is wrong and will have repercurssions and so many other prophesies.
Those mocking you will come back to ask you to show them the way when they see the kind embarrassing continuous blessing in your life. Rejoice, parents, your time is here!


I think we go need to declare fasting and prayer to smoke Mamatriplets out o.

@ Alwaystrue, thank you so much for this. You have made my day... :-) :-) :-)

@alwaystrue...i
was thinking since morning dt tomorow is my 4th marriage anniversary
with nothin to show. ur post av strengthen me as if u ar ministering to me
face to face. tnx for those inspired words. u really made my day. as u av
watered me dis morning so sha God water u and ur family. greetings to
all my wonderful sisters and bro Santagelo. it is well wit us.

Chi16: @alwaystrue...i
was thinking since morning dt tomorow is my 4th marriage anniversary
with nothin to show. ur post av strengthen me as if u ar ministering to me
face to face. tnx for those inspired words. u really made my day. as u av
watered me dis morning so sha God water u and ur family. greetings to
all my wonderful sisters and bro Santagelo. it is well wit us.

Happy anniversary in advance, i pray God will visit you in this new year of your marriage

@Always true, thanks so much for that word

@ all, right now I'm taking only pregnacare, vitamin D( cos I'm black lol and we need more of it, fish oil, inositol and coQ enzyme

Melatonin is a sleeping drug and research has shown that it helps improve egg quality. If you do have that prob but you won't know unless you have a treatment.

Always true, inspirational message!

@ chi, Happy Anniversary in advance. May God continue to bless your union.

@Alwaystrue.Thank u for that post.I'm lıfted.I actually woke up wıth a smıle on my face thıs mornıng.I'm so joyful and ı belıeve ıts permanent.No more sadness.I esp lıke vs 27-No longer wıll we be dısgraced.Wow!That ıs soo reassurıng.God bless u sıs.

To my fruitful sisters who are interested in the ART but for limited money , you may wish to try National Hospital Abuja . They have a programme for people who are below age 33yrs where you can share your eggs with older people who can not produce eggs and are willing to take up your bills and you end up to pay as low as N55k only for those who might be interested in sharing. It is called I.V.F EGG SHARING
The disadvantage , however is if you do not produce enough eggs to share , you will make a refund of money spent on you so far by the recipient.
It is however a thing of choice, I once tried it before but the IVF didnt work for me, the sharing was successful sha, i didn't have to pay above the 55k. I eventually had a natural BFP few months after
Thought someone might need this information.

@alwaysT am happy just saw d word wen i was lookin @my big pots with no one to cm eat with me.@chi gal dnt worry.delay is nt denial.do u know my aunt got her bfp 2days after her 4th anniversary n her dh had erectile dysfunction so dere is nothin God cannot do.happy anniversary sweety

@Beetle, sweethie tank you so much for the post on supplements, God bless you.

@AlwaysT, you are a darling, tanx for the word.

@All, remain blessed.

@Beetle, sweethie tank you so much for the post on supplements, God bless you.

@AlwaysT, you are a darling, tanx for the words. They are really inspiring.

@All, remain blessed.

@favored gal, Beetle and Iyabetajos...tnx so much my sweet sisters..i pray dt God sha visit evry ttc mothers and fathers sooner dan we expected.

@AlwaysT, thanx as usual.
@Chi16, happy wedding anniversary in advance. Pls try to have as much fun as you possibly can. Let TTC be the farthest thing from your mind...till night. Lol. For further lessons on the night aspect, I refer you to Safe06's manual. May God grant your heart's desires. @GloriousGod, thanx for sharing that.