CoolUsername:


Human embryos develop gill slits which are then quickly reabsorbed before birth. In fish, these gill slits develop into gills.

Reading about tetrapods would help you put things into perspective. There are fish today which have lungs for breathing. Fossil record shows that gills predate lungs. Tetrapods made the transition from water to land.

There are several but I know better than to waste my time trying to reason with you.

KingEbukaNaija:


More putative ancestors used as evidence .

4everGod:


Your mumu is raised to power infinity. I asked you why a computer does not become conscious when you insert its cpu into it? Since you want to liken consciousness to a computers cpu.

Education ought to have taught you that you can only liken a thing to another exact same thing and not one way different. This way you can drive your point home. In other words both comparisons must MATCH!


OLODO

4everGod:



Oh so man and fish share a common ancestor that existed long ago? Riiiight!

And they say Christians are insane. Smh

So bro if man and fish share a common ancestor have you met this ancestor? And if man and fish shared this elusive ancestor was this evolutionary change programmed to cease at a certain point?

I ask this because I see no further change in fishes or man today especially since we initially kept evolving till date so where is your proof of this common ancestor? Is it the virus? Or is it something more chaotic?

CoolUsername:


Nobody has met the common ancestor but careful and objective inference has given us evidence of our shared ancestor. For example human embryos till this day grow gill slits, in fish these would eventually develop into gills but in humans, they are quickly reabsorbed. That's one that I can say off the bat. You can read up if you're interested.

And no. Evolution doesn't stop. It continues to occur almost imperceptibly over the course of several generations. For example, millennia ago, man couldn't digest cow's milk but a genetic mutation made out possible. You should read that up of you're interested. In fact, not everyone has the ability to digest milk.

CoolUsername:


Nobody has met the common ancestor but careful and objective inference has given us evidence of our shared ancestor. For example human embryos till this day grow gill slits, in fish these would eventually develop into gills but in humans, they are quickly reabsorbed. That's one that I can say off the bat. You can read up if you're interested.

And no. Evolution doesn't stop. It continues to occur almost imperceptibly over the course of several generations. For example, millennia ago, man couldn't digest cow's milk but a genetic mutation made out possible. You should read that up of you're interested. In fact, not everyone has the ability to digest milk.

Lilbrown007:

Do U Realize U Are Not Making Any Sense?? I Cannot Start Explaining To U The Function Of A CPU!! Cause Even A Kid Knows That

CoolUsername:


It just also happens that these ancestors fit nicely into the fossil record with every individual in it's correct rock stratum.

Also, you just happened to completely not see the embryology I used as evidence here.

4everGod:
Coolusername your evolutionists claim that at some point fish jumped out of water and began to develop lungs. Lmao

How come lungfish die when on land for too long afterall they have lungs same with humans.

How come every fish that has ever mistakenly jumped out of water unto land has died. There has bee absolutely no fluke survivor.

Even in randomness the whole thing is ridiculous.

CoolUsername:


Nobody has met the common ancestor but careful and objective inference has given us evidence of our shared ancestor. For example human embryos till this day grow gill slits, in fish these would eventually develop into gills but in humans, they are quickly reabsorbed. That's one that I can say off the bat. You can read up if you're interested.

And no. Evolution doesn't stop. It continues to occur almost imperceptibly over the course of several generations. For example, millennia ago, man couldn't digest cow's milk but a genetic mutation made out possible. You should read that up of you're interested. In fact, not everyone has the ability to digest milk.

BlackIsLife:
I challenged all the christians on this forum to prove how christianity/religion beget science but no one was able to come up with any valid or invalid point. I also stated that all the early scientist were NON-BELIEVERS - no one was able to disprove this too - why do christians now makes erroneous conclusion that christianity beget science? - it's absolute foolishness.


Christianity didn't beget science - athiesm didn't beget science.


NECESSITY IS THE MOTHER OF SCIENCE!!!

KingEbukaNaija:


Any rebuttal for this http://www.godandscience.org/evolution/first_tetrapod.html

KingEbukaNaija:

Am an old earth creationist and I do believe most so called transitional fossils are not evidences of evolution . Eg the sea lion's fin , if that animal existed long ago they would associated it with birds as part of their ancestors .

KingEbukaNaija:


This guy sef ! I told you that modern science in the real sense of what it is started in the Muslim world and that Atheists were more concerned with philosophy and political theories . Atheism has nothing to do with science . It's being religion .

BlackIsLife:



Who were the muslim scientist? they don't have name or is this just an assumption from you? so it ain't christian scientist anymore?

CoolUsername:


No. Lungfish didn't jump out of water, rather their ancestors were part of the gradual transition from water to land.

Catfish can survive out of water for a short while (still longer than sardines for example), lungfish and hagfish can survive for a longer time. Other now extinct species seemed even better suited for land locomotion. Amphibians can survive both in water and on land (although usually are better suited to one of them) and so on. Evolution is a very gradual process.

You need to read up on it to have any serious conversation, really. You've made a lot of ignorant statements in this debate.

KingEbukaNaija:


No , adult man can't still digest milk because of the loss of the milk digestive enzyme they had through out their childhood .

CoolUsername:


The hell? 35% of the earth's population can.

CoolUsername:


The hell? 35% of the earth's population can.

KingEbukaNaija:


I always say that Christians played a massive part in the progress of science after its nascence . The word "scientist" only came into use first in 1833 while the Muslims started it 800 to 900 years before that time . So there is no such as who is the muslim scientist who started it since science began between the 10 th and 11 th century . You get ?

Vicoch:
atheism loading.........78 percentage.

BlackIsLife:



You mean 10th and 11th C.E or B.C.E?

KingEbukaNaija:


Why would anyone choose the path of foolishness

KingEbukaNaija:


10th and 11th CE - I clearly said 800 to 900 years before 1833

Vicoch:

Define Foolishness, because i see the foolishness in you, i am still having doubts in our existence that's the reason why i am still not fully an atheist, but when i am done with my research then i will know the truth, because i have been calling upon this God

and he seems to be non-existence, like seriously interacting with wise people here made me realise that i am just living a life like i am compelled to, you should not put yourself in bondage with what you are not sure of, until this "God" starts healing the blind, dumb, deaf among many others before i can accept or not...
Ever since i was a Christian, i would often fast and ask "God" for what i desire...., but all has been silent!

P.s : this is not frustration, when i see how people fast and pray asking this "God" particularly for a thing without results i cry within me...
I noticed that i always lived in constant fear and had minor psychological problem all because of religion, i was always telling my mind that i will be punished because i sinned.

I once attended a crusade just to cure a "bad habit" i always indulged in, at the end i convinced myself i was free....Few weeks later i found my self repeating the same sin, wait before you judge, i really wanted to stop this sin,
but the fact is that these "miracles don't work!"
they are not real!
.
Until i see real miracles then i might accept this God.
You should only believe in what has fully convinced you.

Vicoch:
atheism loading.........78 percentage.

KingEbukaNaija:


Visit the Lord's Chosen if you want miracles from God .

Vicoch:




You see! Bleeping Foolishness, you are advertising now..

...Does it mean that other churches are not able to perform miracles , only lord's chosen that performs miracle

I remember a recent accident that happened to RCF FUTA students, going for s program in ibadan, that all died in the accident.
A very religious friend of mine told me that "God took them"

My point is: Can this God we call God of Love be really cruel to have killed them all in the accident If really he is a loving father......

BlackIsLife:



You are unwittingly wrong!

Science began in the BCE around the 2nd century - do you know anything about physics? if yes, then, you should know Archimedes Of Syracuse ( 287 - 212 BCE) - he propounded the famous "law of Archimedes" - he invented war machines - he invented hydraulic pump etc


Eratosthenes of cyrene (275 - 192 BCE)


Aristarchus of samos (310 - 230 BCE)

Democritus of Abdera - was one of the first scientist to proposed that matter was made up of atoms


Thales of Miletus - he was one of the first scientist to give rational explanation of rational phenomenon - is idea to look for deeper cause was the true beginning of science & philosophy.


Aristotle of Stagira (384 - 322) - He is one of the founder of modern science,
ETC.


Science has long being in existence before jesus was born - science is in no way related to religion.


LIFE NECESSITIES BEGET SCIENCE!!!

KingEbukaNaija:


Ok I admit I was wrong . I was referring to modern science . First time I'm being outwitted by an atheist after my reinvention . Wow !