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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by GabrielYulaw(m): 11:10pm On Aug 30, 2020
nemesis8u:
Kalyani ultralight 155x39 mm artillery gun

It has hybrid soft recoil system

It comes in 2 variants

1. Titanium build ( much lighter but expensive )
2. Steel build ( little heavier but cheaper )

Hi! Just curious, so can you explain the utility of arty systems like these when counter arty radar systems are proliferating like mad? I mean, why have a towed and emplaced arty system like this when the enemy will soon get a fix on it and blast it?
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 2:04pm On Aug 31, 2020
GabrielYulaw:


Hi! Just curious, so can you explain the utility of arty systems like these when counter arty radar systems are proliferating like mad? I mean, why have a towed and emplaced arty system like this when the enemy will soon get a fix on it and blast it?

If u note except for one , all are mobile systems , either mounted on HMVs or with integrated self propulsion unit for scoot and shoot mission.

Even than artillery guns are placed on the reverse slope of mountains / hills or embankments etc to afford protection against counter fire .

Also it is also not always that easy to get a fix and start counter fire because the order side will already be targeting your artillery with own counter fire using own counter artillery radars.

Only those who have superior range and accuracy ( first hit first kill ) will triumph regardless of owning counter artillery radar systems. Superior tactics and mobility will also be an advantage.

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 10:58pm On Sep 01, 2020
Would love to see a IR guided missile find its target through that grin

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:00pm On Sep 01, 2020
BEL compact tactical fire control radar

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:07pm On Sep 01, 2020
Forgot the name of the vehicle grin

Anyways it's armed with a 105 mm gun

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:10pm On Sep 01, 2020
IA variant of smerch MBRL

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:14pm On Sep 01, 2020
US hexa evtol

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:18pm On Sep 01, 2020
Russian PTKM-1R anti armour mine

It detects a tank as far as 150-250 meters away from it with a thermal imager and then launches it's payload into the air which then searches and acquires the target and then fires a EFP at the vulnerable top section of the tank shocked

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:21pm On Sep 01, 2020
BMP-3 "Manul" IFV variant

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:22pm On Sep 01, 2020
South Korean KM114A2 Suppressor for 105mm howitzer shocked

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Vikkie14: 11:23pm On Sep 01, 2020
nemesis8u:
Russian PTKM-1R anti armour mine

It detects a tank as far as 150-250 meters away from it with a thermal imager and then launches it's payload into the air which then searches and acquires the target and then fires a EFP at the vulnerable top section of the tank shocked
Breathtaking!
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:23pm On Sep 01, 2020
Russian Abakan ballistic defence system with 51P6E2 launcher

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Vikkie14: 11:26pm On Sep 01, 2020
nemesis8u:
South Korean KM114A2 Suppressor for 105mm howitzer shocked
Ingenuity.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:28pm On Sep 01, 2020
The one in the middle is the largest mortar currently in operational service . It is Russian .

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:30pm On Sep 01, 2020
Vikkie14:
Ingenuity.

Germans have a larger one for 155 mm artillery


But I fail to understand it's utility in real life operations . Unless it is for testing of ammo ( as a control )

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:41pm On Sep 01, 2020
WSO rear cockpit display of Su30mki

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by rationalhuman(m): 7:35am On Sep 02, 2020
Not meant for war but useful when you have residential/Hospital/Schools nearby testing facility.

Vikkie14:
Ingenuity.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Xbee007(m): 10:18am On Sep 02, 2020
Religion of peace.

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 2:02pm On Sep 02, 2020
Another Russian game changer in the tac aviation field! Imagine an Mi 8 with near Mach 1 speed!

The Ka-90 takes off like a regular helicopter.[b] When the vehicle gains required altitude, rotor blades form an arrow-shaped wing, and the helicopter starts flying as an airplane. In this form, the aircraft accelerates to 400 km/h. Afterwards, the blades fold completely backwards and the aircraft accelerates to 800 km/h. [/b]When landing, all actions are performed in the reverse order.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVtBWau3iPY
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 2:34pm On Sep 02, 2020
PRE RADAR AIRCRAFT RECOGNITION-WAR TUBAS!

Basically acoustic detectors were developed by many countries prior to Radar.

Aircraft engines produced unprecedented sound, so in order to hear them at a distance, the war efforts developed listening devices. Some were small and portable, for the use of one person. The operator listened using stethoscope-style headphones.

But detecting engine noises at greater distances allowed more time to prepare a response. Large and elaborate detectors were experimental, and their efficiency varied widely. A number of designs were quite striking, such as the Japanese acoustic locators nicknamed "war tubas."
https://mashable.com/2015/02/16/war-tubas-radar-wwi/

The last is one of the earliest acoustic detectors,a pair of USN amplifiers in the 20s. You can see how they got larger and more sophisticated.

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by jarell: 3:52pm On Sep 02, 2020
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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 4:17pm On Sep 02, 2020
jarell:
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It's a mine , the ring on top is the arming pin , once it is removed , it becomes armed , pressure activated .

The knob on the side is most probably a secondary fuze to activate anti handling feature ( deter any attempt to deactivate the mine )

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 4:23pm On Sep 02, 2020
The elevation angle of ATAGS is considerable , this allows for highly steeped lofted trajectory of shells inorder to hit targets on the reverse slope of a mountain/hill

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by GabrielYulaw(m): 5:17pm On Sep 02, 2020
nemesis8u:


Germans have a larger one for 155 mm artillery


But I fail to understand it's utility in real life operations . Unless it is for testing of ammo ( as a control )

If I remember correctly, it's used when arty have to fire rounds and practice their skills, but in built-up locations where the noise level of the firing would be very unacceptable.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by GabrielYulaw(m): 5:18pm On Sep 02, 2020
nemesis8u:
Russian PTKM-1R anti armour mine

It detects a tank as far as 150-250 meters away from it with a thermal imager and then launches it's payload into the air which then searches and acquires the target and then fires a EFP at the vulnerable top section of the tank shocked

Could this defeat active defense systems like the Trophy?
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:52pm On Sep 02, 2020
GabrielYulaw:


If I remember correctly, it's used when arty have to fire rounds and practice their skills, but in built-up locations where the noise level of the firing would be very unacceptable.

Possible
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 6:02pm On Sep 02, 2020
GabrielYulaw:


Could this defeat active defense systems like the Trophy?

Would certainly make things difficult for the current configuration of APS but I think it is possible to overcome the anti armour munition by altering the algorithms of the radar of the APS and increase the radars FOV to a larger altitude inorder to detect a munition with a lofted trajectory . Correspondingly the kinetic effectors elevation angle will be increased so that a munition in a lofted ( or parabolic ) trajectory can be engaged in flight before it can fire the EFP.

Currently the APS can engage a target at lofted or parabolic trajectory ( eg ATGMs in top attack mode ) but the main difficulty it will face while engaging the Russian munition will be due to the very low minimum engagement range ( 150-250 m ) that too in a lofted trajectory and very low reaction time available with the Russian munition, thus making it difficult for the APS to engage the same with 100% guarantee. Element of surprise will be more or less with the Russian munition .

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 8:21pm On Sep 02, 2020
When a angry Czech Republic Mayor Replies to foreign minister of Chi/na grin

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by GabrielYulaw(m): 8:23pm On Sep 02, 2020
nemesis8u:


Would certainly make things difficult for the current configuration of APS but I think it is possible to overcome the anti armour munition by altering the algorithms of the radar of the APS and increase the radars FOV to a larger altitude inorder to detect a munition with a lofted trajectory . Correspondingly the kinetic effectors elevation angle will be increased so that a munition in a lofted ( or parabolic ) trajectory can be engaged in flight before it can fire the EFP.

Currently the APS can engage a target at lofted or parabolic trajectory ( eg ATGMs in top attack mode ) but the main difficulty it will face while engaging the Russian munition will be due to the very low minimum engagement range ( 150-250 m ) that too in a lofted trajectory and very low reaction time available with the Russian munition, thus making it difficult for the APS to engage the same with 100% guarantee. Element of surprise will be more or less with the Russian munition .


Thanks for the explanation. But from what I'm aware of, Active Protection Systems can only engage missiles and projectiles traveling at a certain speed. Thus, they can't engage bullets fired at them, cos bullets travel too fast.

With that being the case, how will an APS engage the Russian mine when it fires its explosively formed penetrators, given that these travel at hypersonic speed?
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by GabrielYulaw(m): 8:25pm On Sep 02, 2020
nemesis8u:
When a angry Czech Republic Mayor Replies to foreign minister of Chi/na grin

Is this for real? smiley
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 9:58pm On Sep 02, 2020
nemesis8u:
US hexa evtol
US and wastage
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by bidexiii: 7:53am On Sep 03, 2020
And again some images from a video concerning the South Korean KF-X prototype.

Images via

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUPBK0_EBWU&feature=emb_title

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