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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 4:21pm On Jan 31, 2021
Raaven:
North korean , US made MD 500 Helicopters



How North Korea Got It's Hands On 87 U.S. MD 500 Helicopters




source and the rest of article : https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/north-korea-got-hands-87-090000711.html

I hope you see how ideal it is for LICWs. I reiterate you guys SHOULD kickstart your army aviation with e squadrons of 12 each beefed up with a half squadron of Mi 35s.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 4:38pm On Jan 31, 2021
Nemesis2you:
DRDO SMART is the world's longest range land based anti submarine missile system .

It can target submarines at a range of 650 km .


Wow! But the sub will HAVE changed datum by the time the torpedo is at the previous coordinates.

At twice the speed of sound 686 ms it will take 5 mns to fly 500 km not counting Brass approval of minimum, another 5 mns to authorise release of 6 mn missiles .
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 4:50pm On Jan 31, 2021
kikuyu1:


Wow! But the sub will HAVE changed datum by the time the torpedo is at the previous coordinates.


The submarine will be detected and under surveillance by various sensors or combination of sensors

Eg
Satellites
MPAs
USVs
UAVs
Underwater sea bed arrays
Etc

While the missile is mid way in flight coordinates will be updated

And it's torpedo released in the general area of detection ( latest known position )

Autonomous torpedos work differently , it doesn't not home directly to its target , the torpedo searches in circles untill it makes sonar contact , upon which the it's search circle moves closer to the contact , it goes on till it acquires a sonar lock. Any autonomous torpedo traverses through a considerable search area before acquiring its target. It basically pursues the target untill it's battery finishes or it hit it's target.

At twice the speed of sound 686 ms it will take 5 mns to fly 500 km not counting Brass approval of minimum, another 5 mns to authorise release of 6 mn missiles

I not able to understand this portion

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 4:57pm On Jan 31, 2021
LCA MK2 has total of 11 weapon hard points, out of which 3 weapon hard points are rated to carry 1.8 ton each !

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 5:04pm On Jan 31, 2021
First pics of model of SWIFT UAV which is a technology test bed for GHATAK stealth combat UAV ( UCAV )

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 5:19pm On Jan 31, 2021
Pics of the new DRDO AEW&CS

So the configuration of the radar on the recently sanctioned 6 AEW&CS based on Indian airline owned Airbus A320 is now confirmed more or less.

It is going to be beam type same as in Netra AEW&CS but there will be a additional radar panel on the nose of the aircraft and possibly one on the rear of the beam for 360 degree radar coverage.

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 5:27pm On Jan 31, 2021
Nemesis2you:
First of the 7 P75A multi purpose stealth frigates launched a couple of months back.

They are being built using modular technology for faster construction.

IIRC, you said Shivs are under armed compared to Chinese analogs and MANY others think so!
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 5:29pm On Jan 31, 2021
Rustom 1 UAV.

In the first pic in the background is a new previously unseen radar mounted on a vehicle.

In the 4th pic the vehicle in the background is AFDCR radar .

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 5:33pm On Jan 31, 2021
Nemesis2you:


The submarine will be detected and under surveillance by various sensors or combination of sensors

Eg
Satellites
MPAs
USVs
UAVs
Underwater sea bed arrays
Etc

While the missile is mid way in flight coordinates will be updated

And it's torpedo released in the general area of detection ( latest known position )

Autonomous torpedos work differently , it doesn't not home directly to its target , the torpedo searches in circles untill it makes sonar contact , upon which the it's search circle moves closer to the contact , it goes on till it acquires a sonar lock. Any autonomous torpedo traverses through a considerable search area before acquiring its target. It basically pursues the target untill it's battery finishes or it hit it's target.



I not able to understand this portion

I highly doubt naval ratings or at most Chief Petty Officers have the authority to shoot 6 mn USD missiles WITHOUT clearance which takes time. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY a PROTOCOL resembling this:
-Explain nature of threat over secure comms.
-wait for clearance from HIGHER authority
- higher authority request more INFO!
All the while the sub is moving at max quiet speed.
Clear?
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 5:35pm On Jan 31, 2021
kikuyu1:


IIRC, you said Shivs are under armed compared to Chinese analogs and MANY others think so!

Yes me and others believe so

This question was put to navy officers who said the reason for that is they have confidence on the capabilities of the weapons onboard .

They said that 16 brahmos is more than enough and even with 32 LRSAM ( barak 8 ) SAMs it is adequate because they have cooperative target engagement capabilities , where one ship can provide target coordinates and control a missile fired from another ship for its own use.

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 5:43pm On Jan 31, 2021
Nemesis2you:


Yes me and others believe so

This question was put to navy officers who said the reason for that is they have confidence on the capabilities of the weapons onboard .

They said that 16 brahmos is more than enough and even with 32 LRSAM ( barak 8 ) SAMs it is adequate because they have cooperative target engagement capabilities , where one ship can provide target coordinates and control a missile fired from another ship for its own use.



In the heat of say a second WORLD battle space? Simultaneous multiple swarm drone attacks, directed energy attacks on sensors like radars while engaging an enemy AWACS at 30k",a sub 10 NM off their port bow and the fire control radar of a Type 54 A has just appeared on their screen?

Ok!
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 5:50pm On Jan 31, 2021
kikuyu1:


I highly doubt naval ratings or at most Chief Petty Officers have the authority to shoot 6 mn USD missiles WITHOUT clearance which takes time. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY a PROTOCOL resembling this:
-Explain nature of threat over secure comms.
-wait for clearance from HIGHER authority
- higher authority request more INFO!
All the while the sub is moving at max quiet speed.
Clear?

Why would one fire without clearance ?

There is a kill chain associated with every weapon system , especially strategic systems.

No one explains anything over comms , those days are long gone , direct feed of live data from sensors is sent to relevant HQ , where those in charge are entrusted with authorisation after necessary fire solutions are generated .

Once a military is raised to weapons free status , authorisation is within the operator or with the commanding officer in charge. No authorisation beyond that needed.

Everything is networked and every element is supposed to be in the loop , any major weapon system functions within the OODA ( observe , orient , decide , act ) loop.

Also the fact that your sensors detected and kept the sub under observation while concurrently your weapons are prepped means you had all the time for authorisation.

How will the submarine know it has been detected in the first place ?

And then how will it know a missile has been fired at its location ?

So why will it run at high speeds which only increases its chance of detection in the first place ?

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 5:58pm On Jan 31, 2021
Nemesis2you:


Why would one fire without clearance ?

There is a kill chain associated with every weapon system , especially strategic systems.

No one explains anything over comms , those days are long gone , direct feed of live data from sensors is sent to relevant HQ , where those in charge are entrusted with authorisation.

Once a military is raised to weapons free status , authorisation is within the operator or with the commanding officer in charge. No authorisation beyond that needed.

Everything is networked and everyone is in the loop , any major weapon system functions within the OODA ( observe , orient , decide , act ) loop.

Also the fact that your sensors detected and kept the sub under observation while concurrently your weapons are preped means you had all the time for authorisation.

How will the submarine know it has been detected in the first place ?

And then how will it know a missile has been fired at its location ?

So why will it run at high speeds which only increases its chance of detection in the first place ?

Read you 5 by! Eagerly waiting for aeroIndia pix and vids.
You GUYS WILL conquer the global arms market by 2026 WITH MATURE weapons systems on ALL LEVELS.

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 6:02pm On Jan 31, 2021
kikuyu1:


Read you 5 by! Eagerly waiting for aeroIndia pix and vids.
You GUYS WILL conquer the global arms market by 2026 WITH MATURE weapons systems on ALL LEVELS.


Personally i doubt that grin

Through the market share will definitely increase , within next 3 years official target is 5 billion dollars international market share.


I am already posting aeroindia2021 pics grin

Last 4 posts are pics from aeroindia even though it's 2 days to open officially.

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 6:10pm On Jan 31, 2021
kikuyu1:




In the heat of say a second WORLD battle space? Simultaneous multiple swarm drone attacks, directed energy attacks on sensors like radars while engaging an enemy AWACS at 30k",a sub 10 NM off their port bow and the fire control radar of a Type 54 A has just appeared on their screen?

Ok!

Then their ass is 100% fuccked grin

One cannot prepare for every possible scenario , not practical operationally. Is it possible in real life ? No . We try to deal with the means at our disposal or resign ourselves to our faith , that's the way of life most of the time.

Personally I still consider the ships to be under armed , but if those incharge are ok with it than nothing left to say. I am not in any position of power to enforce my will .

A month ago I tried to enforce my will on a 3 year old , I had to run for my dear life .

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 6:25pm On Jan 31, 2021
Brahmos
Akash
Ngarm

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 7:44pm On Jan 31, 2021
Vikrant carrier nearing completion

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 8:03pm On Jan 31, 2021
Communism in short cool

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 8:04pm On Jan 31, 2021
grin

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 8:04pm On Jan 31, 2021
grin

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 8:32am On Feb 01, 2021
Lot of new pics from aeroindia even before it begins grin

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 8:34am On Feb 01, 2021
First pics of TEDBF ( twin engine deck based fighter )

A semi stealth carrier capable fighter. With folding wings.

Love the design configuration

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 9:12am On Feb 01, 2021
First pics of full scale mock-up of HAL and NewSpace unmanned combat wingman.

The autonomous wingman is being developed for providing the next generation cooperative war fighting capability to all the variants of LCA and future Indian fighters.

It is part of CATS ( combat air team system ) program for manned and unmanned teaming with LCA .

One can see the internal side weapons bay with SAAW PGM .

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 9:20am On Feb 01, 2021
Some of the standoff weapon systems of CATS program for combat manned and unmanned teaming with LCA.

Includes

Carriage pods ( as seen the pic ) with multiple air launched autonomous swarm drones.

Different long range cruise missiles in the same category as SCALP , SOM etc

Combat wingmans

CATS is a HAL program with NewSpace.

Not connected with DRDO , DRDO has a seperate weapons program for LCA .

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 9:39am On Feb 01, 2021
The missile on the central pylon of the main fuselage of TEDBF is supersonic RudraM-2 aeroballistic missile with a weight of 1 ton and range of 330+ km

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 10:44am On Feb 01, 2021
ALH MK3 coast guard version

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 12:23pm On Feb 01, 2021
First pic

Right side upgraded Mirage 2000I with a Crystal Maze standoff precision weapon at the centreline hard point.

Left side Rafale with two Scalp cruise missiles underneath the wings.

Second pic

Jaguar Darin III

Third pic

Mig29UPG

Fourth pic

LCH LSP

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 12:38pm On Feb 01, 2021
AMCA model , assembly of model not yet finished

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 12:40pm On Feb 01, 2021
1st pic

DRDO model of airborne battlefield and ground surveillance aircraft on bombardier platform.

2nd and 3rd

DRDO Airbus C295W based MPA

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 1:32pm On Feb 01, 2021
Full scale model of CATS WARRIOR combat wingman from HAL and NS

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 2:33pm On Feb 01, 2021
New weapon systems revealed as part of CATS manned unmanned combat teaming program for LCA include

1. CATS HUNTER which is a stand off cruise missile.

There are 2 variants shown

A. With a large RF seeker
B. With a IIR seeker ( behind the optical transparent screen on the nose )

There might be other variants depending on the warhead types. Warhead weight 250 kg.

2. CATS ALPHA this is a airborne swarm carrier pod, while the autonomous swarm drones are named as ALPHA-S.

Multiple ALPHA-S drones are carried inside the pod in what seems like a rotatory dispenser mechanism.

3. CATS WARRIOR wingman with internal payloads , in pic SAAW PGM is shown as one of the payloads.

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nemesis2you: 3:24pm On Feb 01, 2021
LCA MK2

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