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Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by hopefulLandlord: 11:18pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
dalaman: Don't mind him, he must be perfect in his own eyes |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(m): 11:18pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:So only one person can be this unreasonble? 2 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by dalaman: 11:19pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: So it makes more sense because I'll either go to heaven or hell in the afterlife? You haven't shown me how life makes sense because if the afterlife. |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by Nobody: 11:21pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
dalaman: Being like Christ is a process and that is what being a Christian means. All the vices you listed out up there are no longer in my spiritual genes and I do more than give out a coat I give out clothes in hundreds..myself and my wife to the less privileged. Miracles come with the package so its not a big deal. Temperament is also a done deal with me. Before now I was hot tempered and never could smile. But today I never ever get physical. I get upset but it quickly passes. So do not assume that all these are not possible because I tell you..they are. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by dalaman: 11:22pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija: The Lord's chosen? What is that? Jesus didn't talk about the Lord's chosen and no where does the Lord's chosen church appear inside the bible. Jesus only promised those that believe in him the ability to do greater things than he did. You believe in him but you are unable to do it because it is a lie. The pastor of the Lord's chosen does not do greater things than what we were told Jesus did so drop that silly talk. 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(m): 11:22pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
dalaman:The consciousness of your creator does not mean you fear him. I fear my dad, does not make my dad a monster. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by hopefulLandlord: 11:25pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: Don't you sin since you "became" a Christian? Let me rephrase that, don't you sin since you found Yahweh? |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by Nobody: 11:26pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
dalaman: Go back to the question I asked you earlier which you dodged. The one about the choice being in your hands. Answer that rhen we begin from there to learn how its beneficial 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by Nobody: 11:28pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: What is sin? Lets begin from there. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by dalaman: 11:29pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: Talk is cheap. If I slap you, you will not turn the other cheek, if I come and take your shirt you will not give me your coat. You do not love your enemies instead I believe you pray for God to help you defeat them or.protect you from them and their plans against you. You lie, you cheat, you get angry, feel envy and jealous of others on varying degrees, you do not love your neighbor as you love yourself. You can try to do these things but you can not achieve them 100% no human can. Anybody that says he can is lying that is why Christains have never been able to distinguish themselves from nonchristians throughout history despite their endless claims. 6 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(m): 11:31pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:What sort of question is this? 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by hopefulLandlord: 11:34pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: Sin? A Christian asking a theist what sin is? an immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law, Now what is sin to you? |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by hopefulLandlord: 11:36pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
dalaman: This says it all . 1 Like |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by Nobody: 11:37pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
dalaman: Let me help you settle this rancour within you. I am a martial artist (kickboxer specifically) I can cause harm bodily to people but have not. My anger is like a flash in a pan Slap me and I will say God bless you ( let me explain this one) nobody who has ever tried ro harm me verbally or physically has walked away without being taught a spiritual lesson within 2 weeks. Something always happens to them as a punishment of sorts. My mind has been purified by the word of God Regarding envy or Jealousy I did not even need God for that one to be handled. My father taught me how to be contented but God broke its boundaries so no matter the pressure I am never envious or jealous I dont do charms and never will..rarher2 I have removed charms from people. God indeed proves Himself. You cannot be window shopping and get the benefit. Enter the house and get it from the inside. Dalaman you need Jesus and he wants you. |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by Nobody: 11:40pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: Good to see that you know. Are you a sinner? |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by hopefulLandlord: 11:41pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: This is really funny Bro, you're really deceiving yourself if you think you do those things 100% No one is saying you're perhaps not trying to but you're human |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by hopefulLandlord: 11:44pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: Who? Me? There's no such thing as sin in my own world There's right and wrong society and conscience works hand in hand to determine that for me 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by Nobody: 11:44pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: Believe what yoh choose. Same way I told one of you I have not been sick for close to 20 yrs and do not take drugs...not even paracetamol. And he said its not true. Again I say believe what you choose. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(m): 11:45pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:Bro, why not taste and see that the Lord is good. You dont always got to be adamant.
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Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by Nobody: 11:46pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: So since you do not have sin in you divinely, how do you possibly allow society to determine your morals? You ought to be the epitome of perfection but you mentioned conscience. So how come your conscience still works if you are not answerable to a sinful nature? |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by hopefulLandlord: 11:53pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: What are you talking about bro? Allow? "Epitome of perfection?" When did I ever call myself that? And which atheist ever called himself the epitome of perfection? Conscience is there in everyone; atheist, Christian, Hindu, you feel bad for doing "bad", conscience keeps you in check when others are not looking, don't connect it to your skydaddy bro Its the part of your mind that tells you bad and good The thing I like most about conscience is that it can also make you know you've done bad even though you did nothing wrong that meets the eye, it judges your intention 1 Like |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by hopefulLandlord: 11:59pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
winner01: I have, I've seen there's no such "Lord" anywhere Don't let us derail further |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by Nobody: 12:00am On Jul 17, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: If conscience is there to show you via feeling bad when you do wrong and keeps you on check, my question is why do you even feel bad? How do we even begin to qualify "bad" ? If I did not have an internal GPS (conscience) and it makes me feel bad when I do wrong, yet i do not confuse that feeling as a feel good feeling but can clearly tell the difference. Why can't I just say i do not want that conscience or that "bad" feeling anymore? If I decide to disregard the feeling continually and come to the point that i no longer feel bad about that particular thing it still does not stop me from feeling bad about something else. Why? |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by hopefulLandlord: 12:06am On Jul 17, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: Why? I don't know, we atheists admit we don't know everything but we won't fill the answer with an imaginary being either |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by Nobody: 12:13am On Jul 17, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: I am glad you said you dont know. Do me a favour alright? You are a sincere person but are just trying to resist something you really wish wasnt true. Nobody is trying to force God on you and indeed nobody can as in all we do we still choose. But wouldn't be better to further ask yourself some deep questions like I just asked you now and you said you dont know? If we continually have the ability to feel "bad" regardless of how many times we try to turn it to nothing shows its not under our control. If it was then a drug would have been prescribed to erase it but there is none. Or we would be walking throwing people off the roof in anger but we dont. Or just like it happened in france we would be knocking down or bashing the vehicle of wvery driver who upsets us on the road but no. Ask yourself...how come I cannot control my conscience and kill it. Or why is there no drug capable of being made to erase it? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by Nobody: 12:14am On Jul 17, 2016 |
Have a good night. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by hopefulLandlord: 12:20am On Jul 17, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: Prescribe a drug? What makes you so sure such a drug will not be available in the future? I'm sure someone in the first century would've asked why humans can't fly, so many things that are considered "impossible" years ago are being done today The "god of the gaps" argument doesn't favour theists at all, it is infact detrimental to their cause You may not "kill" it but you can actually "control" it, its the same reason you don't feel bad for doing a legal thing that was illegal hours ago 1 Like |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by Nobody: 3:29am On Jul 17, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija: Don't forget insults |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by JackBizzle: 6:35am On Jul 17, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija: Yawn..... Come and run your mouth here https://www.nairaland.com/3231394/10-questions-christians-attack-atheists |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by Nobody: 7:30am On Jul 17, 2016 |
Kingebukanaija, winner01, would appreciate it if you stopped spamming your threads with mentions. Good food go attract better person. I'm not an atheist spokesman. Thank you. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(m): 9:10am On Jul 17, 2016 |
Muafrika2:Exactly!!! 1 Like |
Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by adoyi8: 11:33am On Jul 17, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija:The country is still in order though. that proves to you that what you sea as moral depends on your society. |
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