2 Tim 2:23 Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels.

The Trinity at work in redemption.

"In every major phase of the redemption, each Person of the Godhead is directly involved. Their involvement in each successive phase may be set out as follows:

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[li]Baptism in the Jordan River. The Spirit descended on the Son, and the Father spoke His approval from heaven (Matt.3:14-17).[/li]
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[li]Public ministry. The Father anointed the Son with the Spirit (Acts 10:38).[/li]
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[li]The crucifixion. Jesus offered Himself to the Father through the Spirit (Heb.9:14).[/li]
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[li]The resurrection. The Father resurrected the Son by the Spirit (Acts 2:32; Rom.1:4).[/li]
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[li]Pentecost. From the Father the Son received the Spirit, whom He then poured out on His disciples (Acts 2:33).[/li]
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Each Person of the Godhead -- and I mean this reverently -- was jealous to be included in the process of redeeming humanity." -- Derek Prince, Atonement

Olaadegu okare! Each is jealouse of the other, I am sure! This statement from you and the christian pundit actually corroborates the verse of the Quran that says "if there has been more than One God, the others will combine their efforts together and try to upstage the Supreme Lord,", even though they will be unsuccessful, but trial they will!

olabowale:

Olaadegu okare! Each is jealouse of the other, I am sure! This statement from you and the christian pundit actually corroborates the verse of the Quran that says "if there has been more than One God, the others will combine their efforts together and try to upstage the Supreme Lord,", even though they will be unsuccessful, but trial they will!

when will u learn to stop comparing the bible to the plagiarised koran? . . .

@Kolaxy: I really love your posts but it seems you are a little afraid of direct answers. You still haven't answered my questions. It may interest you that I wrote something like this about a month ago, just slightly different anyway. There's still a weak link on comprehending it. I had to break mine down to the simplest way possible and I have been reading it to make sure it is unarguable. You can buzz me on yahoo coz am not really steady on NL these days

Trinity = a vindictive father + a suicidal son + a dove

@ the_sickler

Trinity = a vindictive father + a suicidal son + a dove

Thanx

Abuzola:

He said trinity never exist in the bible therefore is just an illussion

What do you know about the bible ? You don't even know your Quran and hadiths.

I'm a christian.JESUS CHRIST IS NOT GOD,i mean,he never claimed to be God.besides trinity can never be found in the bible.its just a doctrine.Jesus is the son of the almighty God Jehovah.while the holy spirit is not a person but force(Jehovahs active power).honestly,claiming that Jesus is God is blasphemy,infact satanic because you are trying in essence to create enmity between the almighty God and his humble son.Shalom

u've clearly defined the trinity,by saying God has a son,and ure also an heresy to christianity by saying jesus is not God,just dnt let pope hear this o

uplawal:

u've clearly defined the trinity,by saying God has a son,and ure also an heresy to christianity by saying jesus is not God,just dnt let pope hear this o

Pope no go hear ooooo.  ,

Uplawal since u and your husband are one it means that u are your husband and your husband is u ,

Jesus son of god, he is also god  ,Papa nd pickin nah d same thing ,

god send jesus to earth, since jesus is god dis means that god send him self to earth,

jesus cried on d cross my god my god why has thou forsaking me, since he is god he is at d same time crying to himself, Y  will he forsake himself .


Did  prophet Abraham,Moses,Noah,David, Solomon(peach unto them all) also worship the same trinity god?

the_seeker:

Trinity = a vindictive father + a suicidal son + a dove

@the_seeker:

are you sure you can stand an intelligent response to this obtuse statement?

Why do you people look for trouble then weep when it wakes up? If anyone were to give you what is logical considering your statement, you'd become constipated online and start screaming Jihad, insult etc. Why don't your remember you live in a glass house when you want to throw stones? So Okay, you think you defined Trinity - would you like a definition of Islam?

Must it be that case that when oddities are pointed out in one's religion, the receiving party can only respond by pointing out oddities in the religion of the questioning party?

Why not just address the glaring inconsistency?

Nuclearboy - the best escape for the trinitarian is to claim that it is a mystery transcending human understanding. I offer that route to you: take it: for you well know that it is NOT a logical dogma.

You also know very well that there are zillions of verses in the bible that positively negate the trinity.

So please dont blame others if they see inconsistencies while you struggle to defend every obvious verse in the bible which contradicts the trinity.

@alimat,they can never understand,except by ALLAH

@DeepSight:

I have noticed that even when provoked or with fun poked at you, you remain calm and so have my respect. Look at this issue however - this "definition" comes from the world where criticism is met with murder and questions with anguished screams and frenzied gnashing of teeth.

I have told these "people; before that being truly divine, Jesus would find much of the insults funny - He has nothing to prove! But can you imagine them being reminded of the call, life and times of the man of Arabia?

And please stop pushing this thing you do so well at me - saying we "know" many things which you then conjure. You are leading the witness, Sir and this is not a court of law where presentation wins the matter rather than truth.

BTW, trinity does not transcend human understanding. I personally, get it and I am not past human. Body, Spirit and Soul; Me writing, me on the phone and me in the flesh. Simpler than OOI.

Blasphemous people!