KingEbukasBlog:


God is a supreme being , gods are the lesser ones - they are the ones who have ranks and control some aspects of nature .

There is no such thing as "Gods" , its called gods . There is only one Supreme Being , God .

Kay17:


Good now what's common between God and gods? in other words what is common denominator between those two?

KingEbukasBlog:


I can't think of any shared attributes for those mythical gods with the Supreme Being . But in Christianity , the bible says we humans are gods and we are created in God's image , so obvious there are lots of shared attributes .

But I thought we agreed to discuss this from deism's perspective ?

Kay17:


But the definition was clearly not adequate. We have to agree on who and who the term God can cover. I strongly believe pagans have Gods whom are allocated accordingly to a hierarchy therefore not all are supreme nor creators

lilliesboy:
Most communist leaders are/were atheists (or humanists) but the ones that abused human rights didn't do that in the name of atheism but politics as many atheists were also jailed and/or killed during their regimes. Stalin killed a lot of renowned communists that opposed his government, one was Leon Trotsky whom he killed in Mexico. Vladmir Lenin killed those that refused to hand-over their private property (i.e. industry, church, etc) to the State and whom tried to assassinate him. Or, aren't you aware Lenin was shot about four (4) times by a female assassin prior to his "Red Terror" Day proclamation? That means EVERYONE that refused to do away with capitalism was dealt with, not just pastors/imams. Atheists are quite different from communists because they don't necessarily have to be (partisan) politicians or State actors to have DISbelief. Fidel Castro of Cuba never killed Christians/Muslims in the name of atheism, though he was an atheistic communist and still to this day.
#Adolf Hitler, Mussolini, Saddam Hussein, Assad, George Bush etc, were/are not communists/atheists but murdered millions!

KingEbukasBlog:


I'm tired of repeating what I said dear , you are free to believe whatever you want to believe or redefine .

Kay17:


Therefore a God is a Supreme Being. What makes up a Supreme Being? What is the supreme nature judged against?

KingEbukasBlog:


'God' is the appellation given to the Supreme Being .

What do you think makes up a Supreme Being ? What do you think is the supreme nature judged against ?

Kay17:


We earlier went from God to Supreme Being as a way of clarification, isn't it worse and more confusing to return to the confusion God.

Besides it wasn't my choice of word to select Supreme Being therefore I'm badly placed to explain the expression. And I dont get why you waste time with pushing back the questions i ask back to me

KingEbukasBlog:


There is no confusion in God . Apparently you are the one try to obfuscate the meaning of 'God' not me .

Remember you said you don't know who God is , so your answers from the questions I pushed back at you will help me understand what/who you see as God . Then I can dispel the misconceptions . See baby , I'm no magician . I need to see where you got it all wrong - its like I'm fixing you because I discovered where the problem lies .

Kay17:


So God is Supreme Being whilst Supreme Being is God?!

When you chose that word Supreme you must have had an idea in mind right? Otherwise you employed an empty word

KingEbukasBlog:


The Supreme Being's title is God . Different religions have different personal names for God - Yahweh , Allah etc .

Just like the title of the ruler of a kingdom is 'King' . The King has a personal name .

So are we clear now ?

Kay17:


Now what is a Supreme Being? What does he do

KingEbukasBlog:


A Supreme Being is the ultimate precursor of everything that exists . You mean what has he done? He made everything that exists .

Kay17:


Including time?

Kay17:
Good

Yet why would you presume a Being must be a precursor of everything especially when you do not have a prior experience or precedent that Beings are pre existent?

NOTE this is a complex question and please answer diligently.

KingEbukasBlog:


Very easy question .

Thoughts create matter and realities . Thoughts come from the mind and only a being can have a mind . The mind created matter . God has the mind . God created matter and our reality .

Kay17:


Give a concrete example where a thought created Matter

KingEbukasBlog:


Look up "how thoughts create matter" , so we can discuss it

Kay17:


This is another attempt of yours at artful dodging

KingEbukasBlog:


Come on baby , no it isn't .

I just want you to understand what I'm talking about - thoughts creating matter and realities .

Kay17:


Then say it here. I'm sure it's ridiculous

KingEbukasBlog:


Oh dear ! Ugh ! Hmm

Ok , rule that out not because you it as ridiculous , its because you are ignorant of the subject which is not bad though . But damn , it was a very good answer to your question - maybe you know this and you are being disingenuous .

Well , here is another answer .

1 . Intelligence , Complexity and Design in Nature

2. Consciousness in humans

Kay17:


Educate me

KingEbukasBlog:


Don't forget your question - how I presumed that the precursor of everything that exists is a being . I didn't presume though but I'll treat it like I did .

The universe is super complex and intelligently designed and it only logically suggests that such can come from a living entity with a cornucopia of knowledge , skill etc on how to orchestrate such magnificent design and assign functionalities to the constituents of his work , the universe . I mean the world being a product of chance is now an obsolete idea .

JackBizzle:



There are people who believe that it was an alien race of engineers that built the world.

Your argument in bold would support such a theory better than that of a God.


At least, an alien would be a living entity. Your God is as good as dead/non-existent, given that he exists outside of time and is lacking in the corporeal aspect

KingEbukasBlog:


God is an alien in that sense .

JackBizzle:



No, God is an invisible wizard in the sky. A myth that can never be true.

Aliens are science fiction- a fiction that can come true.

KingEbukasBlog:


Jack Bizzle's god obviously





Close mindedness

JackBizzle:



Yawn