Hmmmm

freecocoa:
Still doesn't make any sense, what I'd like to know is how they/you are able to tell the charm is reason why he was able to try to break into someone's house? Dude was caught trying to break in(i think) why not arrest him for that alone and leave juju out of it, since there's no way to prove juju did anything?


Like the quran didn't command to kill unbelievers? Or the bible didn't instruct that a woman who was raped be sold to her rapist? What's there not to understand?

It's the media that is focusing on the juju charge not the court.

I don't know about the Quran but I'm pretty sure there's no command to kill unbelievers. However the story about the woman who was rapist and sold to the rapist was in the old testament, that doesn't really count as Jesus is the new testament while the old testament is just for knowledge.

HungerBAD:
Lol.

So we learned two things here today.

(1)Juju do not work.

(2)It is actually an offence to possess juju in Nigeria.

Now my question is,why are the Herbalist preparing the Juju not been arrested?or should Government make Juju illegal.

Sha charm nor de work me don de talk am since for this nairaland ppulu nor wan hear
I will never believe that charm works until i see person disappear wit my own two naked eye(not even video)
And why sef they de include charm as criminal offence
I de laff naija as they no wan make any sense

Proudlyngwa:


witchcraft and wizadry are punishable offences in the nigerian constitution

So how them wan take prove beyond reasonable doubt say person na witch
Jus because say e don tie red cloth for stick wey them carve to look like e grandpapa??
Or them go get video of how e dey fly go coven??
Only me constitution no de deal wit metaphysics naija no jus wan make brain

charm or change APC ;Dcharm or change APCself

Dreamwaker:


Because in Nigeria, a lot of people use charms for evil deeds.

The Bible doesn't brainwash people, people who get brainwashed by the Bible don't not understand the words in the Bible. They are brainwashed the people they call spiritual leaders.

Since u know that a lot of people in Nigeria use charms for evil deeds which is the same way a lot of spiritual leaders in Nigeria use Bible for evil deeds (brainwashing people as u also admit), why then would the possession of Bible be made legal and the possession of charms illegal?

HungerBAD:
Lol.

So we learned two things here today.

(1)Juju do not work.

(2)It is actually an offence to possess juju in Nigeria.

Now my question is,why are the Herbalist preparing the Juju not been arrested?or should Government make Juju illegal.

Well, he probably confessed to possessing something harmful if he was actually confirmed to have something physical at the same time that looks strange but again if he has a good lawyer, that case is dead on arrival . This case is tantamount to trying to prove in a law court that someone used juju to kill a man ,but again in your Yoruba land any ideology with the help of your supposedly super educated men and women that are still clinging to some form of superstitious ideology ,anything can be bought and sold like gala.
A good lawyer will make that case look idiotic before any judge.

Dreamwaker:


It's the media that is focusing on the juju charge not the court.

I don't know about the Quran but I'm pretty sure there's no command to kill unbelievers. However the story about the woman who was rapist and sold to the rapist was in the old testament, that doesn't really count as Jesus is the new testament while the old testament is just for knowledge.

From the post, the prosecutor said that the accused was in possession of "criminal charms and OTHER dangerous weapons". Assuming they searched his bag and saw chaplet, Bible or Quran, would they still be charging him for possession of criminal Bible or criminal chaplet or criminal Quran and other dangerous weapons? Why won't a pastor who rapes a girl in his room be charged for both rape and possession of criminal Bible in his room?

Na una know

Dreamwaker:


The Bible doesn't cause any one harm

In the hands of the wrong people it does more harm than a recession, or ponzI scheme

JESUS IS COMING BACK AGAIN

Proudlyngwa:


witchcraft and wizadry are punishable offences in the nigerian constitution

It is a s.tupid law. Punishing it means you recognise it. Which means a person can use witchcraft and wizardry as a defense in a court of Law. Why is Nigeria like this for God's sake?

Mynd44:
The other charges should hold but possesion of charms? What if they met a bible there? Will they charge him for being in possession of a "criminal Bible"?

Nonesense

He used the charm to commit a criminal act. In my own opinion it served as a weapon to him.

Mynd44:
The other charges should hold but possesion of charms? What if they met a bible there? Will they charge him for being in possession of a "criminal Bible"?

Nonesense

..Or holy water,anointing oil,rosary ,tira etc

oglalasioux:
Black Africa will be better off if juju, charm, shrine, grotto, are all banned and destroyed and their practisers prosecuted. We've used these things to inflict too much injury in one another.

bible, quran and juju.....which of them have had their followers cause the least damage?

Juju is a learner compared to the other two

HungerBAD:
Lol.

So we learned two things here today.

(1)Juju do not work.

(2)It is actually an offence to possess juju in Nigeria.

Now my question is,why are the Herbalist preparing the Juju not been arrested?or should Government make Juju illegal.

It's being

Dammit

So what if the charm is for curing his sickness. I don't know the position of law on charms.

It's delicate. Law should stair clear of it.

We have traditional religion recognized by the law, government and the people.

Charms are like Bible and quran to traditional religion.

Tho, he tried to rob a house. He should be charge with that crime.

But Illegal possession of charms. What is illegal in charms? Do Christians need legal approval to carry Bible?

cold:

Can you state where in the constitution the above is deemed a punishable offence?

Chapter 20
Ordeal, Witchcraft, Juju and Criminal Charms


207. (1) The trial by the ordeal of sasswood, esere-bean, or other poison, boiling oil, fire, immersion in water or exposure to the attacks of crocodiles or other wild animals, or by any ordeal which is likely to result in the death of or bodily injury to any party to the proceeding is unlawful.

(2) The State Commissioner may by order prohibit the worship or invocation of any juju which may appear to him to involve, or tend towards the commission of any crime or breach of peace, or to the spread of any infectious or contagious disease.

208. Any person who directs or controls or presides at any trial by ordeal which is unlawful is guilty of a felony, and is liable, when the trial which such person directs, controls or presides at results in the death of any party to the proceeding, to the punishment of death, and in every other case to imprisonment for ten years.

209. Any person who-

(a) is present at or takes part in any trial by ordeal which is unlawful; or

(b) makes, sells or assists or takes part in making or selling, or has in his possession for sale or use any poison or thing which is intended to be used for the purpose of any trial by ordeal which is unlawful;

is guilty of a misdemeanour, and is liable to imprisonment for one year.

210. Any person who-

(a) by his statements or actions represents himself to be a witch or to have the power of witchcraft; or

(b) accuses or threatens to accuse any person with being a witch or with having the power of witchcraft; or

(c) makes or sells or uses, or assists or takes part in making or selling or using, or has in his possession or represents himself to be in possession of any juju, drug or charm which is intended to be used or reported to possess the power to prevent or delay any person from doing an act which such person has a legal right to do, or to compel any person to do an act which such person has a legal right to refrain from doing, or which is alleged or reported to possess the power of causing any natural phenomenon or any disease or epidemic; or

(d) directs or controls or presides at or is present at or takes part in the worship or invocation of any juju which is prohibited by an order of the State Commissioner; or

(e) is in possession of or has control over any human remains which are used or are intended to be used in connection with the worship of invocation of any juju; or

(f) makes or uses or assists in making or using, or has in his possession anything whatsoever the making, use or possession of which has been prohibited by an order as being or believed to be associated with human sacrifice or other unlawful practice;

is guilty of a misdemeanour, and is liable to imprisonment for two years.
Chapter 20
Ordeal, Witchcraft, Juju and Criminal Charms


207. (1) The trial by the ordeal of sasswood, esere-bean, or other poison, boiling oil, fire, immersion in water or exposure to the attacks of crocodiles or other wild animals, or by any ordeal which is likely to result in the death of or bodily injury to any party to the proceeding is unlawful.

(2) The State Commissioner may by order prohibit the worship or invocation of any juju which may appear to him to involve, or tend towards the commission of any crime or breach of peace, or to the spread of any infectious or contagious disease.

208. Any person who directs or controls or presides at any trial by ordeal which is unlawful is guilty of a felony, and is liable, when the trial which such person directs, controls or presides at results in the death of any party to the proceeding, to the punishment of death, and in every other case to imprisonment for ten years.

209. Any person who-

(a) is present at or takes part in any trial by ordeal which is unlawful; or

(b) makes, sells or assists or takes part in making or selling, or has in his possession for sale or use any poison or thing which is intended to be used for the purpose of any trial by ordeal which is unlawful;

is guilty of a misdemeanour, and is liable to imprisonment for one year.

210. Any person who-

(a) by his statements or actions represents himself to be a witch or to have the power of witchcraft; or

(b) accuses or threatens to accuse any person with being a witch or with having the power of witchcraft; or

(c) makes or sells or uses, or assists or takes part in making or selling or using, or has in his possession or represents himself to be in possession of any juju, drug or charm which is intended to be used or reported to possess the power to prevent or delay any person from doing an act which such person has a legal right to do, or to compel any person to do an act which such person has a legal right to refrain from doing, or which is alleged or reported to possess the power of causing any natural phenomenon or any disease or epidemic; or

(d) directs or controls or presides at or is present at or takes part in the worship or invocation of any juju which is prohibited by an order of the State Commissioner; or

(e) is in possession of or has control over any human remains which are used or are intended to be used in connection with the worship of invocation of any juju; or

(f) makes or uses or assists in making or using, or has in his possession anything whatsoever the making, use or possession of which has been prohibited by an order as being or believed to be associated with human sacrifice or other unlawful practice;

is guilty of a misdemeanour, and is liable to imprisonment for two years.
Chapter 20
Ordeal, Witchcraft, Juju and Criminal Charms


207. (1) The trial by the ordeal of sasswood, esere-bean, or other poison, boiling oil, fire, immersion in water or exposure to the attacks of crocodiles or other wild animals, or by any ordeal which is likely to result in the death of or bodily injury to any party to the proceeding is unlawful.

(2) The State Commissioner may by order prohibit the worship or invocation of any juju which may appear to him to involve, or tend towards the commission of any crime or breach of peace, or to the spread of any infectious or contagious disease.

208. Any person who directs or controls or presides at any trial by ordeal which is unlawful is guilty of a felony, and is liable, when the trial which such person directs, controls or presides at results in the death of any party to the proceeding, to the punishment of death, and in every other case to imprisonment for ten years.

209. Any person who-

(a) is present at or takes part in any trial by ordeal which is unlawful; or

(b) makes, sells or assists or takes part in making or selling, or has in his possession for sale or use any poison or thing which is intended to be used for the purpose of any trial by ordeal which is unlawful;

is guilty of a misdemeanour, and is liable to imprisonment for one year.

210. Any person who-

(a) by his statements or actions represents himself to be a witch or to have the power of witchcraft; or

(b) accuses or threatens to accuse any person with being a witch or with having the power of witchcraft; or

(c) makes or sells or uses, or assists or takes part in making or selling or using, or has in his possession or represents himself to be in possession of any juju, drug or charm which is intended to be used or reported to possess the power to prevent or delay any person from doing an act which such person has a legal right to do, or to compel any person to do an act which such person has a legal right to refrain from doing, or which is alleged or reported to possess the power of causing any natural phenomenon or any disease or epidemic; or

(d) directs or controls or presides at or is present at or takes part in the worship or invocation of any juju which is prohibited by an order of the State Commissioner; or

(e) is in possession of or has control over any human remains which are used or are intended to be used in connection with the worship of invocation of any juju; or

(f) makes or uses or assists in making or using, or has in his possession anything whatsoever the making, use or possession of which has been prohibited by an order as being or believed to be associated with human sacrifice or other unlawful practice;

is guilty of a misdemeanour, and is liable to imprisonment for two years.

http://www.nigeria-law.org/Criminal%20Code%20Act-PartIII-IV.htm#Chapter 20

vincentico:
LoL

Abeg to dey carry charm don become crime

don't mind them no be to carry charm but what you use it for, he dey commit crime with his own charm

Every witch must die. Possession of charm is close to witchcraft

In lagos state law there is criminal possession of Charm and is a crime, the problem here is that there is no way you can prove that the charm is for criminal intention, the law was pass to stop traditionalist from making and circulating criminal and evil charms to the populace



quote author=Jobabori post=48545985]The police that arrested him, the DPO of the station, the Prosecutor and even the judge are more likely to have more charms than the suspects. Most Nigerians believe in potency of juju as not all charms are used for negative purposes. The spate of kidnapping rampant nowadays may be responsible for the police action of arresting him. Criminals do use bad charms in their nefarious activities. Though possession of charms is not a crime yet we should not allowed those suspected of possessing negatively one to roam our streets.[/quote]

Mynd44:
The other charges should hold but possesion of charms? What if they met a bible there? Will they charge him for being in possession of a "criminal Bible"?

Nonesense

See your mouth like criminal bible

Mynd44:

Carrying charms is not witchcraft/wizardry.

It is different

funny country, even witchcraft/ wizardry. how do you want to ague in court that some1 is actually a witch or a wizard. backward nation.

Emeka71:
So carrying charms is now a crime and spelt out by Nigeria constitution.

na today u knw

cindyrocks:
He used the charm to commit a criminal act. In my own opinion the it served as a weapon to him.

what of those carrying bible to scam people or those blowing people up carrying Quran

Mynd44:
The other charges should hold but possesion of charms? What if they met a bible there? Will they charge him for being in possession of a "criminal Bible"?

Nonesense

sir hi I hope you're doing well, if you don't mind may you pleas clarify for me in which way does the bible commit crime in your clarification please don't tell about pastors but tell me about crimes committed by the bible itself , because without applying what is written on the bible to your life you'll keep on doing wrong that the reason I m saying please don't tell me about pastors who doesn't apply what is written on the bible in their life but yet you use their life to classify the bible as a. 'Criminal bible' thank

NCAN please take note of the name. seems its the brown roofers.

Thank God juju possession don dey law. Na wao how OPC go do m nau

[quote author=Proudlyngwa post=48536115]

witchcraft and wizadry are punishable offences in the nigerian constitution

Modified.
For those quoting me, I don't make or enforce the law.
Ordeal, Witchcraft, Juju and Criminal Charms


207. (1) The trial by the ordeal of sasswood, esere-bean, or other poison, boiling oil, fire, immersion in water or exposure to the attacks of crocodiles or other wild animals, or by any ordeal which is likely to result in the death of or bodily injury to any party to the proceeding is unlawful.

(2) The State Commissioner may by order prohibit the worship or invocation of any juju which may appear to him to involve, or tend towards the commission of any crime or breach of peace, or to the spread of any infectious or contagious disease.

208. Any person who directs or controls or presides at any trial by ordeal which , .so how does the law define what juju is?what r the parameters set by law to i.d juju?

Wait o
Let's see "Damilare Oyenuga" this guys again
Hmmmm am not suprised we know the name and we may suspect the town its in the system

Just checking Name

NCAN ondo branch in and out"