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Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by lawani: 1:02pm On Oct 19, 2019 |
Maximus69:The only problem of JWs is that they insist those who do not believe Jesus Christ will not have eternal life. Even if they are morally upright!. It is not right to speak ill of God. God is not partisan. He does not belong to JW alone. God be with us all. |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by Nobody: 1:52pm On Oct 19, 2019 |
lawani: The problem with wicked people is trying to set standards for others when they're not ready to subject themselves to any form of standard! We must stand on what we know and can prove to conviction anytime anywhere and before anyone. Sorry we are not like you who can't defend what you're saying with proofs. Remember what you said initially "you don't need to believe (what i'm saying) just live a good life and you're OK with God" But i can prove it that you're not OK with my own God if you refuse to accept Jesus as your role model! You're here advocating for ban on what some people believe all because you feel they're responsible for most of the menace in our society. And you're also claiming you know God. Please what is the benefit of your write-up if you can't direct people (who are religiously inclined) to the one and only form of religion that could bring about LOVE and PEACE amongst all those practicing it? That is why we are Jehovah's Witnesses! All your people hate us NOT because we're a menace in the society, in fact we're the world's most peace loving worshipers! You and your folks hate us because you don't want to be corrected in your filthy lifestyles yet you want to relate with us as children/worshipers of the same God. That is what we're tactfully, calmly and respectfully saying "IT IS IMPOSSIBLE!" |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by Nobody: 2:03pm On Oct 19, 2019 |
lawani:There is nothing holy in Wars! Killing is Killing! I can't speak for Muhammad, but going by what i have read about Jesus of Nazareth, he never raise a sword (weapon), he never taught his followers to kill and he even condemned one of them who wanted to fight to protect Jesus. Jesus even admonished his followers to let themselves be cheated or intimidate than fighting back to the point of killing someone! Matthew 5:38-48 Please lawani, is it fair? If some hoodlums broke into a bank, kill security guards, rob everyone, rape females in the bank and by the end of the day mention you as their ringleader? Most people are confused about the situation because you're not such a person, yet someone began broadcasting it on all social media that you're guilty since the hoodlums mention your name! Well that's exactly what you're doing against Jesus now! |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by lawani: 4:04pm On Oct 19, 2019 |
Maximus69:You are right that JW are like early Christians and they are not warlike but that does not make it right for them to be saying only Christ believers will enjoy eternal life. That is misrepresenting God. Why can't you believe God is not partisan?. God is not a christian or Muslim. He is not a JW. The practice of claiming to know it all is recent, it did not exist over 2000 years ago before Christianity. |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by lawani: 4:23pm On Oct 19, 2019 |
Maximus69:I have told you the one and only standard which is be fair in all your dealings with all men. Theology varies like language and so far you are not saying God is discriminating against people because of their beliefs, then you are okay and Your theology is sound. We are all children of God. |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by Nobody: 4:33pm On Oct 19, 2019 |
lawani: @bolded You got it excellently! The practice of claiming to know it all began when Jesus walked the earth, because he is the one and only human who knew everything possible to be known about God and life! For your information, that's why he was called "the only begotten son of God" If you're sincere in your heart that first century Christians and Jehovah's Witnesses are harmless preachers and teachers of LOVE and PEACE! Then it's time you stop condemning all religions because there is no tangible reason to support that notion except if you're advocating for lawlessness! |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by lawani: 4:44pm On Oct 19, 2019 |
Maximus69:Some people called Jesus an atheist because he knew no other God but himself!. I do not see him as a role model. He came for Jews and by him, the salvation of non Jews is an after thought not something planned originally by God!. My own God has no special people and He is not a jealous God. He is Olodumare. Christianity and Islam claim to know it all and they issue threats against unbelievers, for this reason I condemn them. |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by Nobody: 4:45pm On Oct 19, 2019 |
lawani: It is finished! John 19:30 With the bolded, you've just condemned yourself! My theology can't be sound when it's totally contrary to what you want. What you've just said could be rephrased as [b]"you're excellent in your teachings, if everyone on earth practice what you're saying, LOVE and PEACE will reign on this planet but I WON'T JUST ACCEPT IT" Please Jesus admonished us not waste precious times with individuals like you, because you don't want to have anything to do with the light. You prefer DARKNESS! John 3:19 Thanks lawani, for spending your precious times with one of the Witnesses of JEHOVAH! |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by lawani: 4:50pm On Oct 19, 2019 |
Maximus69:What I mean is that there is no human culture without theology and that theology is sound if it does not portray God as less than a gentleman. I don't mean that JW theology is sound. It is not. |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by Nobody: 4:54pm On Oct 19, 2019 |
lawani: @bolded is misconception! Jesus knelt down and prayed sweating! Luke 22:44 Please was he praying to himself? John 8:28 @Isaiah 2:1-4 God's word made it clear that the salvation of entire mankind has been in God's plan from the beginning! Genesis 12:3 If you care to know, welcome my brothers and sisters in your neighborhood and ask them to tell you why the Israelites must come first in the plan for salvation! Zachariah 8:23 |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by Nobody: 4:58pm On Oct 19, 2019 |
lawani: Well i'm just responding to what you type, and you typed "your theology is sound" I have no theology apart from what i learnt from Jehovah's Witnesses! So lawani, stop deceiving yourself! |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by lawani: 3:58pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
Maximus69:I have corrected it to convey what I mean. You can't prove that the theology of JW is the truth or that Jesus is the son of God. The Jews who are the authority on him do not believe in the virgin birth. To them, Jesus' bio father was a Roman soldier called Pantheras. Yet you say your teachings is the only way to eternal life!. Such needs to stop. I have my own theology which is the Yoruba traditional theology. Souls are ageless like God but we can also say they are young or old based on the number of incarnations. I support all other cultural theologies and I can learn from them. Whether you like it or not God will bring His peace on earth and all speaking ill of God by Christians and Muslims will come to a total end. |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by lawani: 4:13pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
God is the chief soul or chief imale and He is never incarnated. He rules over everything with the assistance of 200 imales on the right and 200 on the left. He is called the Agotun because He rules from Ogotun. |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by Nobody: 5:51pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
lawani: I've gotten your theology lawani! (1) God exists but he doesn't need to communicate with his children, as in any form of written documents known as the word of God! (2) Humans have always existed in the spirit realms before they started traveling to and fro the earth (reincarnation) (3) Humans can't unite as one because of their different theologies about God, life and hereafter. (4) Irreligious humans will one day form a united force and start hunting religious humans! (5) All these cultural theologies are OK so far they don't claim to know it all! (6) Buddha believe all these and taught his disciples to research on their own for more wisdom! (7) Incarnates can't figure out how old or how many times their souls have been to and fro in the spirit realms! ( There is no benefit in all these theologies yet you can share it with others! (9) Souls like Buddha have reach Nirvana so incarnates who haven't reach can worship Buddha and unknown others, but only Buddha and few others are recognized globally as souls that have reached Nirvana! (10) So Worshipers Nirvanarians need not identify themselves since their forms of worship is not uniformed! Well all these proved just one thing! You don't want any form of principles guiding you so that everyone could choose how to live a good life from their own conscience! Let me educate you! People quarrel due to rifts and rifts comes up due to conflict in standards. If their is no form of standard/rule/principle to guide people, that's when conflicts arises and it's conflicts that leads to WARS (killings) So with all your theologies there is nothing worth considering because it's not going to cure the plague for which you've been condemning religion! |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by lawani: 6:11pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
Maximus69:Humans can unite as one under God despite different languages or theologies. We are all children of God. No written word, not even IFA verses can be described as word of God. That will be taking it too far!. God and our ori communicates with us via IFA divination. Religion that is Christianity and Islam divides us up into believers and unbelievers and that is the very beginning of wars and different kinds of animosities. You do not need religion to be a good human being, what you need for that is empathy, you don't even need theology. |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by Nobody: 6:32pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
lawani: So Ifa is what will unite humans globally? And why not just concentrate on the one and only organization i'm presenting to you? You're dodging the truth by bringing up false religious groups after i've presented the one and only group God is using to unite people as one to you! Can you now see how crooked your mind is? |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by OpenYourEyes1: 6:34pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
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Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by OpenYourEyes1: 6:34pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
lawani: Empathy honestly never worked for me while I was an athiest. The mind of an atheist is pure evil. I even considered killing people who were fond of dumping refuse indiscriminately. I also considered killing rapists back then. I honestly thought that was the right thing to do. I hated lawbreakers with a passion and thought the only way to stop them was destroying or castrating them. I foolishly thought that breaking the law to fight law breakers should be justified. Ever since I found JESUS I discovered better ways of solving problems without resorting to violence. No more depression, no more porn addiction, no more hate (I try my best by GOD grace), lust for women has completely disappeared,. Embrace JESUS and be set free like me. |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by OpenYourEyes1: 6:41pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
OpenYourEyes1: Sucide thoughts disappeared completely |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by OpenYourEyes1: 6:41pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
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Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by lawani: 6:46pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
Maximus69:What IFA teaches is iwa Pele or gentle character, so far you have it, you are right with God. My mind is not crooked, rather you are the one who have lost your mind to heresy and blasphemous doctrines but you can still be saved. It is heart rending to think that children and impressionable folks are under the influence of bible teachers like you and others. Yes, IFA can unite the world and change here for the better but other cultural theologies must be propped up too. |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by lawani: 7:28pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
OpenYourEyes1:Thank God you are no longer an atheist! You now need a better theology that does not divide human beings into believers and unbelievers. May God help you. |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by Nobody: 9:25pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
lawani: You're the funniest clown ever! Just read the bolded and flash back at what you typed initially. (1)"There is no God's word anywhere" Yet Ifa teaches, please how? (2)"Your mind is not crooked" you think the world could be united as one Yet you don't want one single form of standard to guide us all! (3)I can still be saved, Your theology says all of us are travellers traveling to and fro the earth and spirit realms until we reach Nirvana. Please if i may ask, from what exactly am i to be saved? Over 8,500,000 adults from different nations of this politically divided world full of racism, formed one big happy family of peace loving worshipers. And you're saying "such teachings is a menace on our planet". Well let's see the effectiveness of your Ifa on people from different lands, let Ifa make them drop harmful weapons capable of destroying lives, let Ifa unite them as one family and let Ifa present it's teaching that's efficacious enough to make you and it's worshipers/followers/ students good enough to reach the hearts of listeners. Perhaps then your Ifa could come somewhere close to my Jesus of Nazareth, until then enjoy deceiving yourself! |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by lawani: 9:55am On Oct 21, 2019 |
Maximus69:There is philosophy in IFA and there is a lot to learn but it is not the word of God. You can still be saved from toxic theology. We have one standard which is be fair to all men in your dealings. No cultural theology is wrong so far there is no toxic belief therein. |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by Nobody: 10:16am On Oct 21, 2019 |
lawani: I agreed with you completely that there are many toxic theologies out there. But for you to know the one that's guiltless amongst them. You need to examine the aftermath of such teachings! Jehovah's Witnesses have achieved what you desire and none of your so called cultural theologies have come any close to their achievement. So it's clear that truthfully speaking you don't want the truth! |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by lawani: 6:11pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
Maximus69:What is your truth? Jesus is the only begotten son of God and belief in his teaching is the only way to partake in God's eternal life?. I have to believe unintelligent things to be saved?. Your theology is wrong from the ground up and you have to leave your common sense to believe it. God wants us to use our intellect not abandon it. |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by Nobody: 6:55pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
lawani: If you're truthful about the bolded, then tell this forum what happened to people's intellect so that the world is not at peace? I have simplified what the Bible teaches for you, but it's obvious you love confusion. Hellooooooooo lawani, conflicts will arise because all humans are intelligent beings having brains to choose what they will accept as right and wrong. So there will continue to be disputes if we're not in agreement over right and wrong. Jehovah's Witnesses have settled these differences between peoples from various cultural backgrounds, races and works of life and a big happy family of peace loving worshipers have sufficed. What else do you need to make you understand that Jesus whose teachings made this possible is the only way if the earth will become a Paradise? Stop deceiving yourself! |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by lawani: 12:08pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
Maximus69:Christianity is heretic, it is blasphemy against God. The same is true of JW teachings and doctrines. God is a gentleman. He is not partisan. He is the father of all not of Muslim, christian or JW alone. |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by sirjoe1124(m): 12:41pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
Maximus69:Nobody will be jealous of JW. Please stop misleading people,JW is a religious institution just like the opus dei and it doesn't conote they're more superior than other religious entities 1 Like |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by Nobody: 12:54pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
lawani: If you're truthfully convinced about NIRVANA, why are you calling for a group to be banned? After all everybody will reach NIRVANA anyway. Stop deceiving yourself with lies of NIRVANA, there is no NIRVANA anywhere, evil must stop that's what you and i are yearning for! |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by Nobody: 12:57pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
sirjoe1124: The FRUIT tells for itself! Matthew 7:15-20 So your argument amounts to nothing, i wasn't born a JW, i saw the FRUIT and got convinced that they're the only group working for the Prince of Peace! John 17:20-23 |
Re: Religion Must Be Banned! by lawani: 11:02am On Oct 28, 2019 |
Maximus69:I am calling for all groups to be banned who say God will punish people for unbelief. You will continue reincarnating until you become Apeere in Yoruba theology or nirvana in Buddhism. That is the reality. |
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