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Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by Abagworo(m): 12:31pm On Aug 30, 2016 |
Viktor1983: Extraction should serve as an advantage for growth of related industry but Africans have been busy exporting raw materials at cheap prices and importing finished products at exorbitant prices. 3 Likes |
Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by Nobody: 12:41pm On Aug 30, 2016 |
Lol this thread is misleading. Nobody will forget crude oil. Why should the government abandon it's biggest money spinner ?? Because another mineral was discovered. Nickel sells for about 6 to 10 thousand (depending on economic climate,quality) per metric ton. And global production is little more than 2 million metric tons with the average participating country making about 20 to 200 thousand tons depending on reserves and duration of operations. Thats a 20 billion dollar a year trade. The entire industry. Nigeria makes about 20 to 60 billion (and even up to 80 plus during GEJ era ) from oil. The oil trade is a killer we are not gonna let it go. The one thing we need is accountability and honest governance. NNPC oil sales system needs to be overhauled and baptized in the waters of reform. We can't keep throwing away posterity's destiny for immediate gains. OiL trade is about 2billion tons a year. About seven barrels make a ton. And even if one uses the 40 per barrel tag on it that leaves u with a 600 billion dollar industry folks !!! Forget the different ethnic insecurities at play in the polity. For once try and think logically. Oil wealth used well will be the Savior of this our dear country. Whatever region you're from. 2 Likes |
Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by lielbree: 12:50pm On Aug 30, 2016 |
flokii:Our oyel is still feeding you barren state! |
Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by rinzylee(m): 1:25pm On Aug 30, 2016 |
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Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by Daniel058(m): 2:20pm On Aug 30, 2016 |
alolatee:Lol |
Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by Daniel058(m): 2:22pm On Aug 30, 2016 |
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Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by Daniel058(m): 2:24pm On Aug 30, 2016 |
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Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by Daniel058(m): 2:26pm On Aug 30, 2016 |
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Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by atirolu(m): 3:24pm On Aug 30, 2016 |
Let it be sold for 2 million dollar per kilo or whatever measurement our political class we never allow the poor have access to good life |
Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by LoveJesus87(m): 4:05pm On Aug 30, 2016 |
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Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by Viktor1983(m): 5:06pm On Aug 30, 2016 |
bakila: Nope that's not what I want to hear, I replied a comment tried to imply that all we need for the"Change" to work is prayers. If you read my comments well, you would understand my point |
Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by Viktor1983(m): 7:36pm On Aug 30, 2016 |
Abagworo:MN You couldn't have said it any better |
Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by ensamy(m): 7:42pm On Aug 30, 2016 |
what is the sharing formula of the income |
Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by Daniel058(m): 12:21pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
LoveJesus87:omo pack well make i komfam first |
Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by LoveJesus87(m): 12:46pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
Daniel058:Lolz my broda, ah dey here o, no forget me if u don confam d sumtin abeg |
Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by Ikennablue(m): 12:58pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
[em] like seriously?? [/em] |
Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by oyinkinola: 2:18pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
Dasuks:...I disagree with this opinion because we can't compare the economics important of Nickel to oil they were far apart, when Nickel is begin to produced there will be unaccountable companies that will directly put the money on our pocket beside the income from it's export! here are some finished products that we be produced, consumed locally and exports to other countries!
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Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by oyinkinola: 2:22pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
Abagworo:...you are right, look:
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Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by oyinkinola: 2:29pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
Free36:...the import revenue we are to have on Nickel will be minimal to the industrial income we will gain!
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Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by Nobody: 3:25pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
@oyinkinola nickel is used to produce products.yes. But talking about importance, what do you think is used to run the factories that produce those products (hydro, oil and gas). The usefulness comes from its use as a power generation and transport fuel. Not here to advocate for anything. However it is useful to speak on clear numerical terms. Nickel is a good addition but I don't see how it substitutes the billions gotten from oil. The entire exports of oil and gas from Nigeria alone in say 2014 is more than times three rhe entire global nickel production( 74 billion to 20billion ). The most important dry bulk trades globally are iron ore ,bauxite , phosphates and say coking coal. These average at like 400 to 500 million tons each. Nickel itself is at 20 million tons. And pasting photos of finished goods with nickel doesn't erase these figures. If I were to do same for the uses of ferrous ores, fossil fuels the list would go on endlessly. Their uses are reflected in their demand and this shows in trade volumes and value. Nickel trade isn't as big is my point. Usually big mining nations like Australia SA etc produce a legion of minerals to post the monstrous figures from mining revenue that they achieve. Australia is the biggest nickel producer with 200k tons. And that's like 2billion a year. All minerals are lazy products cos thwyre not truly earned. Just there in the ground. But the trick is using it properly to develop. Oil is the biggest 'awoof' of these subterranean blessings. The sheer volume and value of the trade makes one earn what a hard-working manufactures export would make. That not withstanding the govt ahould use whatever revenue from nickel wisely. However NNPC sales system needs to be reformed. We are losing killee bucks there. More than even the largest nickel producer makes in a year. Now you geg my point ? 1 Like |
Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by oyinkinola: 4:15pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
Dasuks:I can't buy this Ideas, not because I didn't know the important of oil in economy but look at what can be made of plastics and ion ore today all can be produced from Nickel, also what can't be produced from plastic and ion can still be produced with Nickel it torches everything in our life today, hospital equipment, laboratory equipment agro- industrial equipment, weaponry, hotel and cuisine, home material and let me tell you important things, all our artisan,traders, farmers, animal husbandry, poultry, almost everybody will have his own count in Nickel. The economics important of Nickel can never be compare with any mineral resources!
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Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by Nobody: 5:43pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
Lol @oyinkinola. Ok don't buy them. Thought u were ready to have a meaningful discussion or knew what u were saying. Nickel is just one mineral and isn't that important. Compared to iron ore or bauxite. The trade volumes and value speak for themselves. That is to say, the more something is needed the more it is traded and along those lines the more money is involved. Get it? And plastics ? Lol petroleum extends there as well. Chiefly from the feedstock from the refining/treatment process. Or what did u think it was ? Nigeria exports at least a Billion dollars worth of pyrophoric alloys and special purpose ships yearly. Ut u don't hear anyone saying that they'll replace oil. Now that is about the same Australia makes from nickel. LOL. Uniformly bew producers start out at under 15 k tons. That would be around 150 mill a yearat most during high prices. Last time I checked poor oil prices still bring over 30 billion a year(several times larger than the entire nickel trade ) The proper management of oil revenue is key to development. I'm a Nigerian and the money goes into 'federation' account so it's for everybody. Our Commonwealth. It would be silly to suggest that such prodigious revenue be replaced by a much smaller trade and source of forex. Going by your logic the title of this thread might as well be 'pyrophoric alloys replace oil ' or 'special purpose ship building replace oil'. We need I receive capital investment nationwide. The only way that would happen without borrowing out ones future is with this fossil fuel revenue we have now. Literally a case of now or never. Nickel is just like oil. Since it's a mineral in the ground. But the point is that it is too small a source of revenue due to its size. And enough of the anecdotal and pictorial evidence lineup. Use facts. A component mineral can't be compared to a fuel source. The numbers don't add up. Look up classifications of seaborne trade and check out the shares of energy , minerals , agro , forest products and marine fisheries to get exactly what I'm talking about. |
Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by oyinkinola: 6:07pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
Dasuks:I didn't agree, Nearly all the developed nation in the world today have no liter of crude oil but they conquered the world with innovation! you are looking at Nickel at the angle of exportation revenue, even with that it's largely important! with Nickel at hand and the "savior-fait" of Nigerian, Nigeria will far well than oil! Nickel will be a stone-mine of our industrious age! Nigeria is market of nearly 500million people, that number of people with our technique of know-how on Nickel No country will be compare to us in africa!
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Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by Daniel058(m): 8:31pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
LoveJesus87:Hahaha.. . OK nah |
Re: Nickel In Nigeria: Forget Crude Oil If Nickel Is Discovered In Large Quantity by Nobody: 10:11pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
lol nickel to fuel industrialization ? Where do u get these ideas from bud ? Industrialization is not a new thing. There's actual industrialized nations on earth. Both established and recent. If nickel was the key to industrial progress it would be indicated in such economies' demand and use of nickel. Instead the use of iron ore , bauxite ,coal and crude are much higher in such industrial behemoths. Producers of motor cars and other high value goods. Nickel and it's like figure in as components of some of he manufactured materials. Steel for example is arguably a hundred times more useful. Both in value and use. Nigeria is not going to wake up and start making things overnight. Capital investments needs to be put in place. And that must be don thru any means. With oil being the most viable hitherto. By sheer volume that is. And the economics of industrialization is entirely separate from just finding minerals whether oil or nickel. There's going to have to be coordination from both private and govt to expand important city region economies (Lagos Ibadan PH Kano Nnewi Onitsha etc) to push inert towns and other isolate economies into action. Innovation networks and the process of import replacing come into play at this point. The backbone is what I'm emphasizing. Large amounts of cash is needed to lay the foundation. |
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