Kur17:


10. Eastleigh, it's a slum? that estate alone has more shopping malls than the entire Nigeria

Kur17:


10. Eastleigh, it's a slum? that estate alone has more shopping malls than the entire Nigeria

68816419:

OK, minus Eastleigh, are all these other places not "massive" slums as well?

rvp2018:
Stop lying; The ROck cannot be that big.
ABUJA - according to wikipedia.
Area[1]
• Municipality 1,769 km2 (683 sq mi)
• Land 1,728 km2 (667 sq mi)
• Water 41 km2 (16 sq mi)
• Urban 713 km2 (275 sq mi)

Nairobi:he Greater Nairobi Metropolitan Region covers 11,734 square miles (30,390 square kilometers)

Kur17:


we'll argue forever on this, no need of it

Daejoyoung:

Only Kenyans see shopping malls as development, you guys need orientation seriously.

68816419:


stupid guy, type Federal capital Abuja on Google , Abuja is the capital federal capital Abuja just like Kadun is to Kaduna, Kano to Kano

Kur17:


It doesn't stop on only that, Nairobi CBD looks more advanced than Lagos&Abuja, in middle-class estates Nairobi beats them, in shoppingmalls, insfrustructure, all the positives Nairobi is on the upper hand, just name them...

Kur17:


It doesn't stop on only that, Nairobi CBD looks more advanced than Lagos&Abuja, in middle-class estates Nairobi beats them, in shoppingmalls, insfrustructure, all the positives Nairobi is on the upper hand, just name them...

Daejoyoung:

Only Kenyans see shopping malls as development, you guys need orientation seriously.

rvp2018:
You need to do more than type - interpret the results. And if you really insist - you can open google maps - look for Nairobi and Abuja - and find tools that can calculate built up areas. Nairobi city that you see - is Nairobi district - of 1963 - Nairobi Metro extends into 4 more districts - and built up area in Nairobi City is now well into more than half.

So I can tell you for free - the built up area of Nairobi Metro is anything more than 15,000 SQKms. Naiorbi Metro has now 8-10M people. Not cooked Lagos type. But real people.

Nairobi metro can be compared with Lagos metro - but I think Nairobi metro will beat Lagos.

68816419:

well, i have shown you my evidences mind showing yours ? . " Nairobi Metro has now 8-10M people" hahahaah , guy ur really running insane, so mean about 25% Kenya population leaves in Nairobi county alone ?

Daejoyoung:

But Nairobi is not even a major trade center in Africa, and even has no gdp, you are just a clown, l would not continue on this argument with you, because like the other rvp guy you'll end up wasting my time and wasting pages, just believe what you want, at least everyone can see how ignorant you guys are, it's pathetic actually.

rvp2018:
Type Nairobi Greater Metro into google and you'll get the results. Nairobi county is equal to old Nairobi district. It technically exclude even JKIA - the main airport - and many places you see here. Yes Nairobi Metro is huge - Nairobi city alone is 4M - Metro is double that - and we will find out next year when we conduct credible census - not Lagos kind of census - where 8-10M people are counted - and the state turned around to count their own 21M

What is real Lagos population for example Is it what was actually counted in census - or what state l[s]ater estimated so they can claim more federal allocation from Abuja oil money. The excuse you hear is that Lagosian left for their villages during cen[/s]sus

Built up area and population - are stuff that can be easily resolves with google map and some few tools.

I remain skeptical of any NIGERIA DATA.

In the 2006 federal census data, LAGOS had a population of about 8 million people - which the state disputed and estimated their own 20M

68816419:

Kenya population is 47 millions and Nairobi population is 10 millions which means 21.28 % of the Kenyans leaves in Nairobi alone and the rest of 47 counties have population less than three hundred thousands (300000) right ?

Kur17:


Where is the impact of your gdp? you people with GDP than only reflects on books, ...it's very visible Nairobi and Kenya as a whole is positively more advanced.. just accept that and let it go

68816419:

Advanced my ass and how comes majority of your population leaves in slums,not known for any positive international investments unlike nigeria which have the likes of Dangote(have investment in 22 countries) ,Adenugas(investment in 6 Africa countries,) ,Jim(14 countries including us,UK and china),Tony Elumelu(19 countries including UK,US,China),Adebayo Ogunlesi (The Nigerian Who Bought Gatwick Airport,UK,chairman and managing partner, Global Infrastructure Partners (GIP))......, too poor to travel around the world, have Massive external debt of about 60B USD (including china debths ) while the giant of Africa (Nigeria), with a population of about 200M has only $15.1 billion external debt?

68816419:

Advanced my ass and how comes majority of your population leaves in slums,not known for any positive international investments unlike nigeria which have the likes of Dangote(have investment in 22 countries) ,Adenugas(investment in 6 Africa countries,) ,Jim(14 countries including us,UK and china),Tony Elumelu(19 countries including UK,US,China),Adebayo Ogunlesi (The Nigerian Who Bought Gatwick Airport,UK,chairman and managing partner, Global Infrastructure Partners (GIP))......, too poor to travel around the world, have Massive external debt of about 60B USD (including china debths ) while the giant of Africa (Nigeria), with a population of about 200M has only $15.1 billion external debt?

Name any sector - banking, insurance, media, hotels, advertising, manufacturing, heck even NGOS etc - and our companies have operations across east, some southern, north and west africa.

Daejoyoung:

l keep asking them if Kenya is such a business hub and well diversified as they claim, where are their investments in Africa? For instance l know there are Nigerian banks in Kenya, but how many Kenyan banks do we have in West, Central and Southern Africa, how many Kenyan business men / women are investing outside Kenya with their headquarters in Nairobi?

Just30:
we are not illiterates we are not illiterates not to know how to use the internet
and not broke such that we can't afford to travel

rvp2018:
How is that not logical. 2/3 of Kenya is semi-arid that carries 10% of the population. 30% of population is urban - small area. The other 60% are in the arable 20% of the land.

So yes as we speak now - 5m(10%) people live in 400,000 sqkms - about 2/3 of kenya land mass.

Nairobi city has always carried 10% of our population. The Nairobi Greater Metro has about double that(20%).

68816419:

ur analysis of the areas around airport means kadiado county and some part of kiambu county are all parts of the so called " The Nairobi Greater Metro ", if NOT, where does the "The Nairobi Greater Metro " starts and ends?, i do profoundly know that Kadiado county is among the largest county in your country and its largely rural and very undeveloped .
If your analysis is based on these facts, then yoUR a fool, our comparison of abuja is not regionally inclined but solely based on states/county analyses , we could have as well say Nassara state (27,117 km²),Niger state (Area: 76,363 km²) and kogi state ( 29,833 km²) are also part of "Greater Abuja Metro " cause they bordered Abuja.

rvp2018:
Are we going to be doing this every couple pages. Nearly half of our banks have invested in Uganda,Tanzania,Rwanda,South Sudan, Burundi & now Congo. Majority (bar very few) of all our companies across all sectors have investment including in South Africa, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Malawi, Mozambique, Congo and the 5 East Africa countries+South Sudan. A few have invested as far west as Nigeria.

The only impossible place to trade has been horn of africa - with closed economy of Ethiopia and war in Somalia - but Ethiopia opening up - we shall be de-flowering that communism backwater with very little private sector. And with AFTEC - West Africa better be ready to compete with nimble kenyan companies.

Kenya has been the main source of FDI (investment by our private sector) to east africa for nearly 20 decades - since circa 2000!

Name any sector - banking, insurance, media, hotels, advertising, manufacturing, heck even NGOS etc - and our companies have operations across east, some southern, north and west africa.

I can give you one example of kenya company that has investment all over the world - Kenya Re-Insurance - operates in Africa, Middle east and Asia - where it operates in 170 companies over 47 countries. Many countries are now starting to wake up to re-insurance business - but Kenya-Re was for a long time competing only with PTA RE and one more RE - for re-insurance business in Africa

68816419:

keep deluding your little Indian , only Dangote alone have more investment across the world than all the Kenyan so called " Investors" combined

rvp2018:
Yes - Nairobi Metro include Kajiado, Kiambu , Machakos and part of Muranga - nearly half of Kajiado is now built up or being built up. There are many Nigerian living in Kajiado - Kitengela, Rongai, Ngong - all the way to Kajiado town. Kajiado is technically the bedroom of Nairobi.

I am not sure why you wnat to include all those states - in Nairaland post - but Nairobi Metro is enacted in law and there was a ministry for that - now it's deparment.

Nairobi Greater Metro is real. Your own creation is not real.
http://projects.worldbank.org/P107314/nairobi-metropolitan-services-improvement-project?lang=en

68816419:

ur analysis of the areas around airport means kadiado county and some part of kiambu county are all parts of the so called " The Nairobi Greater Metro ", if NOT, where does the "The Nairobi Greater Metro " starts and ends?, i do profoundly know that Kadiado county is among the largest county in your country and its largely rural and very undeveloped .
If your analysis is based on these facts, then yoUR a fool, our comparison of abuja is not regionally inclined but solely based on states/county analyses , we could have as well say Nassara state (27,117 km²),Niger state (Area: 76,363 km²) and kogi state ( 29,833 km²) are also part of "Greater Abuja Metro " cause they bordered Abuja.

rvp2018:
Yes only Dangote - after running a monopoly with military generals of the north - has operations in Africa - in kenya - nearly every big company in whatever sector - has operations most definitely in 5+1 east africa countries and few beyond. Only South Africa can boast of such DEPTH.

Just wait for us in Abuja - We will be there shortly - we are negotiating the thick forest of Congo . Kenya Airways & others - Obviously flew above Congo forest and is happy to for your business . Obviously Kenya Airways has operations world-wide - something no Nigeria company can boast of

And those are just few companies - the depth & breadth of our private sector is second only to SOUTH AFRICA.

hahaahah Kenyans of all people , you should first get rid of your master " Indians " , then Somalis, then Arabs and then Nigerians , i am still wondering where are these Kenyans are getting this confident from, they kept bragging about a place i know deeply

68816419:

still lying Man, and how comes all these counties have their governors and not one central governors called "Nairobi Greater Metro Governor" , secondly, "Kajiado - Kitengela, Rongai, Ngong" are too tiny to be called areas, they all have one thing in common " Nairobi proximity " and very run down areas with very bad roads and drainage systems.
Lastly, why don't you guys like showing the " Nairobi Greater Metro " areas side the Nairobi CBD and upper hill ?

68816419:

still lying Man, and how comes all these counties have their governors and not one central governors called "Nairobi Greater Metro Governor" , secondly, "Kajiado - Kitengela, Rongai, Ngong" are too tiny to be called areas, they all have one thing in common " Nairobi proximity " and very run down areas with very bad roads and drainage systems.
Lastly, why don't you guys like showing the " Nairobi Greater Metro " areas side the Nairobi CBD and upper hill ?

rvp2018:
Nairobi Greater Metro is one contiguous built(urban) area. The Nairobi Metro ministry & now authority job is to harmonize and develop the metro as one. Obviously for political reason they will always remain different counties. But for urban argument sake - Nairobi Greater Metro - is one - and unless someone was to point a boundary - you'll know if you're in Kajiado or Kiambu - from Nairobi.

I have no problem with say Lagos or Abuja metro - just demonstrate - it's a metro. Every big city has a metro. London has one. But you cannot randomly pick a state like Niger and call is ABUJA Metro.

sufferNsmiling:



When you talk about the gdp of agriculture it is very difficult because agriculture can fall into manufacturing or production . If you grow soya beans and then to process it into cooking oil and chicken feed it falls into manufacturing not agriculture. If you grow maize and millet process it into corn flakes it falls into manufacturing not agriculture. Once a product is finished goods it is no more classified as agriculture but it is classified as manufacturing a process goods. That is what happens in south africa, brazil and a lot of countries so most of the manufactured products but the bas products are agricultural products. It's like where I am working now we do a lot of jatropha for biodiesel it is not classified as agriculture but it is put under manufacturing. In nigeria the agricultural products to gdp is very high because there is no manufacturing going on the products are just sold raw. In kenya ,south africa and a lot of other african countries the agricultural percentage of the gdp is very low because the products are manufactured example grapes I made into wines. Sweet beans I made it to bake beans. Fruits are made into drinks and jams. So that is why other african countries their agriculture gdp is very low because they process a lot of the products e to finish goods so most of these products go as manufacturing.

Kur17: