Kur17:


That's the number bozo, ...I see where you're trying drag me on leasing issues, but get it Kenya is a much superior country in all aspects than TZ... Btw who can lease them to a country that doesn't even have clue on how run the airline business...

If kenya knows how to run a business; tell me how much profit did your KQ made just in the last two financial years? And if kenya knows how to run a business how much profit did your SGR made in the last year? If you never made a profit..that means your zero in all aspects of business.proud for nothing.

Tanzania.Dar es salaam is the largest city in East africa.

Tanzania's peoples defence forces.Exercising with amphibious tanks in coastal region.

Kazikazi:
If kenya knows how to run a business; tell me how much profit did your KQ made just in the last two financial years? And if kenya knows how to run a business how much profit did your SGR made in the last year? If you never made a profit..that means your zero in all aspects of business.proud for nothing.

Why are you interested in arguments of things that you only see them in the TV and newspapers... First of all, where is your railway? Where is your much hyped up port?, ...and does two or four airplains worth taking about...FYI KQ made Ksh 1.3B operational profits 2017

The new Lamu (LAPSSET) port, Kenya

Tea estates in Kenya

mtisTheQubit:

I think M7 should be worried of this Bobi guy..the combination of him an bob owino is crazy...The staging ground will be in Kenya my guess...

He paid Kanye & Kim Kardashian $$ to visit Uganda so that he can take the shine off Bobi among Uganda's youth,,,allegedly.

Kur17:
Nigerians teargassed today in Nairobi...anyway, extra judicial killings should be condemned..

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2018/10/dozens-of-nigerians-protest-extra-judicial-killing-harassment-by-kenya-police/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwj8sMe_9o3eAhXpsaQKHfEsDGQQFjABegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw32q2vTMRNzoNLk3yEcPXuF&ampcf=1

They should quit that nonsense. The ones saying they are arrested even if they have proper documents should understand our logic on criminals. In my Kikuyu language we say, when one boy poops, ALL OF THEM HAVE POOPED! So WHOOP all of them! It works wonders.

Kazikazi:
Air Tanzania corporation. You're in love

What happened to pride in Swahili language? Should be Hewa Tanzania. You're slowly learning the ropes
Good to see the Doctor is also a Pilot.

Kazikazi:
I am still counting.remember we are reviving this air Tanzania so that it can boost our tourism earning.we are paying cash for the planes

How did the first one go broke? How sure are you this one wont go broke as well.

Kur17:


Why are you interested in arguments of things that you only see them in the TV and newspapers... First of all, where is your railway? Where is your much hyped up port?, ...and does two or four airplains worth taking about...FYI KQ made Ksh 1.3B operational profits 2017

a loss is a loss.after a taxman took his portion u made a loss.And stop talking about our bullet trains.your level is on diesel locomotives.

Kazikazi:
Tanzania's peoples defence forces.Exercising with amphibious tanks in coastal region.

We did this practically in Somalia in 2012 to worldwide acclaim. Found the terrorists dead asleep, killed a good number, others fled and we took over Kismayu, their Capital base, which we have been running since then. Dont flex with the OG's !

"We have been hitting the tail and the body of the Al-Shabaab, (and) we now want to hit the head, and the best weapon to do so is a hammer; a sledge hammer. You are the sledge hammer which is going to hit the head.”

General Julius Waweru Karangi was aboard the KNS Tana on the night of September 25, 2012 when he uttered those words. Kenya at the time had just launched a cross-border offensive against a pesky group of fighters calling themselves Al-Shabaab in Somalia, and who had been making regular trips into Kenyan territory and causing chaos.

Aboard the naval ship on this very important night that would define the security of the nation in the coming years were 640 personnel drawn from the Kenya Defence Forces (KDF), the Somalia National Army (SNA), and the Ras Kamboni Brigade (RKB), the last a ragtag force that had, almost single-handedly, been resisting the advances of Al-Shabaab in southern Somalia and Jubbaland.

They had sailed off from the small island of Manda on the Lamu archipelago in the Indian Ocean and taken the northerly direction towards the Somali seaport of Kismayu, but had been kept in the dark about their destination and could not call their colleagues to ask whether they knew what their seniors were up to, or even their loved ones to tell them of their departure, because their phones had been confiscated.

Gen Karangi’s choice of words to illustrate the task at hand for the team — using a sledge hammer to hit a snake on the head — had borne the name Operation Sledge Hammer, and two days later, on September 27, the advance team of fighters secured the beach at Kismayu in preparation for the landing of other troops and equipment.

As the day progressed, the news that Kenya finally had boots in Kismayu trickled to Nairobi. However, Al-Shabaab had known that KDF would attack their beloved port and had organised themselves for the battle of their lives.

But they had been duped, and quite skillfully so, that the assault would involve ground forces, and so as they scampered to secure positions to defend Kismayu, they had turned their backs on the vast, blue-green Indian Ocean, allowing Gen Karangi’s team a fairly easy amphibious landing on the sandy beaches of their little colony.
This was, by far, the most significant development in Operation Linda Nchi as it meant that, for the first time, Kenyan military boots were treading on a key Al-Shabaab territory.

Seven other battles would later also prove significant in the war against transnational terrorism, and their particular success points are detailed in the Kenya Defence Force’s official account of their stay in Somalia so far.

They are contained in a 306-page book titled Operation Linda Nchi: Kenya’s Military Experience in Somalia, whose “primary authors” are Colonel T Migue; Lieutenant Colonels Oscar M Oluoch, Paul M Njuguna and Charles O Imbiakha; and Majors Daniel M Mugoro and David O Kwach.

It had never been a secret that the onward march of the Kenyan forces, even under the African Union Mission in Somalia (Amisom), would stop with the capture of Kismayu, the port town standing less than 200 kilometres east of Kenya, and which is considered a strategic outpost by both Kenya and Al-Shabaab.

Each of the seven battles is considered important because it either enabled the Kenyan forces to move forward and capture key towns, or weakened Al-Shabaab and prevented them from recapturing a strategic location they had lost.

It was what the now-retired General would later describe as “hitting the tail and the body” of the Al-Shabaab, and hence weakening it so that the head would not need many blows.

This is how it all happened: at about 5.20am on April 4, 2012, the first of the significant battles started in the general area of Hoosingo, a settlement of about 2,500 considered a gateway for goods from Kismayu into Kenya.

It had fallen to the Kenyan and Somali forces just three days earlier, but Al-Shabaab had shown the advancing teams that they planned to protect their territories with all their might.

In the ensuing battle, Kenya had lost two men — Lieutenant Kevin Webi and Second Lieutenant Edward Okoyo — in the battle, and just as the victorious fighters were starting to settle down, Al-Shabaab had come knocking.

The authors state that Al-Shabaab had plotted elaborately, recruiting fighters from Kismayu and seven other towns, some of them forcibly, and by force switching off the Hormuud mobile phone communication network for two days. When they struck, Maj Joel Maiyo immediately asked his commanding officer, Lt-Col Jeff Nyagah, for reinforcements. That battle would last six hours, according to the official account, with Al-Shabaab using Doshika machine guns mounted on technicals and their foot soldiers attacking in eight waves of 50 to 60 fighters each.

“The waves were organised in such a way that when one seemed to be overpowered, the next wave waiting behind would advance and take position so as to sustain the attack,” the writers say.

WAR OF MINDS

The first battle was effectively ended by the arrival of a fighter jet and, later, two attack helicopters which bombed Al-Shabaab and forced them to flee. About 200 were killed in the battle.

The next major encounter would take place at Fafadun, a small town located in the Gedo region that borders the Kenyan settlement of El Wak, on August 15, 2012. This one started at dusk and, like the Battle of Hoosingo, lasted six hours.

Coming from different directions, there were six waves of Al-Shabaab fighters, and this time, probably after taking their lessons from the bloody Hoosingo battle a few days earlier, they preferred fighting under the cover of darkness.

Bad mistake, for KDF had the all-important advantage of being kitted with night-vision devices, coupled with aerial intelligence of the imminent attack. At the end, the official account states, more than 80 Al-Shabaab fighters were killed.

From the book, the next battle does not, really, sound like a major one because KDF and the Somalia forces took over Afmadhow without much of a fight. Only the advance troops, the SNA and the RKB, had an encounter with the insurgents, 50 of whom had laid an ambush 10 kilometres from Belles Qooqani to prevent their advance to Xayo, just before their destination.

There was a gunfight, six Al-Shabaab fighters were killed and one captured. The captured one informed his captors that his colleagues had believed the propaganda that Afmadhow and Kismayu were to be attacked simultaneously and had gone to defend the more important port town.

“By 3pm, KDF and TFG troops marched into Afmadhow without much resistance,” the book chronicles.

After Afmadhow would come three other major battles as the KDF fought its way towards Kismayu, 120 kilometres away. Because of concentrating on the overland route, and drunk on a fair bit of propaganda, Al-Shaabab were convinced that the attempt to take Kismayu would be staged from an inland direction.

The small town of Miido, 16 kilometres from Afmadhow on the road towards Kismayu, was taken without a fight, but the locals did not inform the Kenyans and their Somali counterparts that Al-Shabaab were close by.

The Kenyan officers were on a reconnaissance mission when they walked into an ambush barely 800 metres from the town, with gunfire from both sides of the road pinning them down and forcing their commander to ask for reinforcements.

Two Armoured Personnel Carriers (APCs) were immediately dispatched to the scene, but Al-Shabaab fighters shot at them from a distance, deflating their tyres. By the time the battle ended, one Kenyan soldier lay dead while the platoon commander and three other soldiers were missing. Also, the Kenyan forces could not drive a 10-tonne Isuzu truck and an APC from the battle ground as the fighting lasted through the night.

The official account understates the extent of this fight considerably, but it is evident it was one of the biggest losses for the KDF up to that point. The bodies of the four missing soldiers would eventually be recovered and a decision made to destroy the APC and the lorry because they could not be recovered.

SILENCED FOR GOOD

Four days later, Al-Shabaab resumed their attacks on forces camping at Miido, but were silenced for good when the Kenyan forces called in an artillery team to shell the Shabaab positions.

Days later, there would be short but fierce fighting at Harbole and Biibi down the road, with the official account putting the number of dead Al-Shabaab at more than 100.

After Biibi and Harbole, the book records the forces getting into “contact”, which is military parlance for a gunfight, every five kilometres and winning each one, sometimes with the help of air support from the Air Cavalry Battalion’s helicopters.

At Jana Cabdala, the forces faced an acute water shortage after a KDF soldier was killed while trying to draw water from a well and the fleeing Al-Shabaab destroyed the water pump at another location. Diesel and chemicals had also been poured into a dam to spoil the water.

In all, the march from Afmadhow to Kismayu took 33 days over 120 kilometres. That may seem to be a long time to cover a fairly short distance, but official accounts blame this on bad roads and the many battles they had to fight along the way.

At the end, though, Kismayu would be taken, not by the force of the gun, but by sheer cunning.

Over land, the advance to Kismayu started at 8am on the morning of September 28, 2012. On foot and on vehicles, the forces encountered Improvised Explosive Devices buried in their paths as well as several ambushes. The Kenya Air Force had also deployed jets and helicopters.

On the northern beach of Kismayu, Operation Sledge Hammer was in progress. It had started with Kenyan helicopters dropping leaflets in Kismayu on September 26 advising residents to keep away from areas dominated by Al-Shabaab or move away from the town altogether.

Al-Shabaab commanders, probably believing that part of the assault team would land at the Kismayu Airport, immediately ordered its most battle-hardened men to go defend the strategic establishment. Armed with surface-to-air missiles and anti-aircraft guns, they were ordered to shoot down any plane or helicopter coming in. That lot were annihilated the same day by a Kenyan fighter jet.

Also acting on the assumption that the forces marching towards them would be the main means of taking over the town, Al-Shabaab commanders moved their fighters towards the main route. KDF soldiers marching towards the town were also under the assumption that they would be the first Kenyan troops to set foot in the town. At about half past midnight on September 28, about 80 members of the Special Forces disembarked from a ship in the cool waters of the Indian Ocean and headed for Kismayu North Beach in dinghies. They landed without encountering any resistance and were followed later in the morning by the Rangers Strike Force, accompanied by the SNA and RKB.

Two days later, KDF had secured the northern part of the town. With more than 1,000 forces approaching over land, Al-Shabaab announced on their Twitter page that they had abandoned the city and shut down their radio station and offices.

General Karangi had told his soldiers that they needed to hit the enemy on the head, and that head was the concentration of Al-Shabaab firepower in and around Kismayu. They vanguished that firepower spectacularly, but whether the head had been smashed would keep being tested over time.


2012: Events leading to the fall of strategic Somali town

Aug 31: Somali town of Miido is captured by KDF and allied forces

Sept 12: Harbole town falls to KDF and the allied forces

Sept 14: KDF, assisted by allied forces, captures Biibi town

Sept 19: Jana Cabdala town falls to KDF and allied forces

Sept 5-13: Planning of Operation Sledge Hammer takes place on Kenyan territory

Sept 11-17: KDF special team moves from Liboi to Manda near Lamu

Sept 17: Chief of Defence Forces, Gen J W Karangi, and service commanders move from Nairobi to Mombasa

Sept 17: KDF conducts amphibious landing training and rehearsals at the coast

Sept 25: Gen Karangi launches Operation Sledge Hammer in Manda

Sept 27: KDF’s Navy team executes a successful amphibious landing at Kismayu

Sept 28: Kismayu falls in the hands of KDF and the allied forces

Mision Accomplished

Kenyan military planners duped Al-Shabaab into believing that a land invasion of their last remaining bastion of Kismayu was imminent before making an amphibious landing from the sea.

While Al-Shabaab planned its defences based on that assumption, the Kenya Defence Forces (KDF), part of the African Union Mission in Somalia (Amisom) in the Horn of Africa country, was training at sea.

“As the KAF (Kenya Air Force) engaged in aerial attacks the other forces were moving in by sea, from where they were to disembark. Essentially, it was intended to divert attention, especially from the Al-Shabaab.

That’s why you (the media) did not know about it yesterday (Thursday),” said Col Cyrus Oguna, the KDF spokesman.

The surprise landing in Somalia’s coastal city of Kismayu by Kenyan troops on Friday was the culmination of a three-day secret undertaking, the Saturday Nation can reveal.

It involved attacks from the air, land and sea, all happening at the same time, and was codenamed Operation Sledge Hammer.

It was the first time the KDF ground troops set foot in Kismayu, the stronghold of terrorist group Al-Shabaab, since the Kenyan troops crossed the border into Somalia in October last year. (READ: Kenya declares Kismayu fall imminent)

Landed in middle of the night

The operation involved bombing by KAF F-5 jets and more shelling by Kenya Navy ships from the Indian Ocean with the ultimate aim – landing Kenya Army troops in the city – being executed in the middle of the night.

Col Oguna, the operations officer in charge of Information at KDF, said: “By 2am (Friday), the last forces had gotten out of the naval vessels and were safely on the ground. It has been on for the past three days and that’s why there were air strikes in key Al-Shabaab logistical bases.”

The high-ranking officer left his usual station in Nairobi for Kismayu and arrived with the fighting troops so as to provide regular updates from the battleground.

Col Oguna said the capture, a secret undertaking, was an “amphibious operation”, an organised military landing by means of combined naval and land forces.

Military officers and analysts have since dubbed it the first of its kind in Africa.

The strategy was all along to make the Al-Shabaab believe that the attack on Kismayu would be launched by ground troops advancing by road, most probably the ones at Jana Abdalla, the most recent township to be captured by KDF before Friday’s onslaught.

‘KNS Jasiri’ sees action

Recently acquired naval warship KNS Jasiri, which arrived in Kenya in August, was among the vessels used to transport the Kenya Army troops. Col Oguna said the naval vessels carrying the ground troops left “one of the maritime bases” in time for the fall of Kismayu.

By Friday afternoon, KDF and Somali National Army had not suffered casualties, according to Col Oguna. The SNA has been fighting alongside the KDF in southern Somalia under the banner of Amisom.

“So far we have encountered minimal resistance. So the casualties on the side of Al-Shabaab are mainly due to airstrikes that are ongoing as the ground troops advance towards Kismayu’s CBD (Central Business District) from the port,” said Col Oguna.

He said the attack was given a codename because it was the ultimate prize in Sector 2, the area assigned to KDF by Amisom.

“The major operation in Sector 2 was Kismayu,” said Col Oguna.

“Removal of Al-Shabaab would signal the complete destruction of its control of all the financial and logistical operations.

“We needed a hammer to accomplish it; hence ‘Operation Sledge Hammer’. Kismayu supported all other sectors, including 1, 3 and 4.”

Military headquarters in Nairobi described the operation thus in a post on its official Twitter account: “KDF and SNA undertook meticulous planning on the operation and executed it with utmost effectiveness never before seen in Africa.”

It said an “amphibious operation” was of the kind which are “complicated, delicate and highly dangerous to execute.”

Situation in Kismayu ‘stable’

However, the Department of Defence (DoD) described the situation in Kismayu as at 2pm on Friday as “stable” while advising residents “to stay calm and controlled”.

Besides arriving at the sea port, other military personnel, mainly drawn from Special Forces, an elite squad of KDF, landed at Kismayu Airport and took control.

By Friday night, the troops were going on with the operation aimed at taking control of the whole of Kismayu.

The airport was on Wednesday bombed by KAF fighter jets, destroying an Al-Shabaab armoury and warehouse.

The airstrikes were described by the DoD as “surgical operations,” because only specific targets were targeted and hit, including training camps, defence posts and other areas where the militias were concentrated.

KDF urged Kismayu residents to keep off areas with large number of Al-Shabaab fighters to be safe from crossfire.

It also urged Al-Shabaab to lay down their arms, adding that Kenyans who had joined the terrorist group in Somalia would be granted amnesty after they surrender.

After the combined force of ground and naval forces struck the port, the majority of Al-Shabaab fighters fled.

“Some of them just melted into the community but we still expect some little resistance, which we are ready to neutralise,” said military spokesman Emmanuel Chirchir.

The KDF destroyed several technical vehicles left behind by the fleeing militants during the take-over, which is said to have lasted less than three hours, he added.

By daybreak, the Kenyan troops had taken control of most parts of the town.

“We have sufficient ground and naval forces in Kismayu as we speak. We are controlling three quarters of the city,” he stated.

Friday’s operation had been preceded by an aerial bombardment of Al-Shabaab positions in Kismayu which destroyed the militants’ armoury and a warehouse at Kismayu Airport on Tuesday.

“At this point in time, we are not able to know casualty figures but we will be able to give you that information once we get it,” Col Oguna was quoted by a Somalia news channel as saying.

https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Mission-accomplished-/1056-1520574-87p078/index.html

TayserMahiri:


We did this practically in Somalia in 2012 to worldwide acclaim. Found the terrorists dead asleep, killed a good number, others fled and we took over Kismayu, their Capital base, which we have been running since then. Dont flex with the OG's !

If you did that; its good for the region.we need peace.if kenya or any neighboring state is calm we in Tz should be happy for that.

Kazikazi:
a loss is a loss.after a taxman took his portion u made a loss.And stop talking about our bullet trains.your level is on diesel locomotives.

If Kenya goes through such challenges with all its yrs of experience, skills and capital,....what do u think TZ will do? ...with no experience, no proper insfrustructure like enough electricity or world class airport, too slow in implementation... etc

TayserMahiri:


What happened to pride in Swahili language? Should be Hewa Tanzania. You're slowly learning the ropes
Good to see the Doctor is also a Pilot.

He he he he he he....Hewa Tz? We are not forcing everything to b in swahili..it should happen gradually.Yes the scientist is a pilot and with Diamond platinumz as co-pilot..kkkkkkk!

Kur17:


If Kenya goes through such challenges with all its yrs of experience, skills and capital,....what do u think TZ will do? ...with no experience, no proper insfrustructure like enough electricity or world class airport, too slow in implementation... etc

Just ask yourself why do u have flying toilets while Tz dont have? With the so called skills and capital why do u have the highest unemployed youth in east africa? With your so called skills but SGR is being built by china! Friend: know this..kenya is overrated.there is nothing to show for your so called skills.Your a third world nation;starving and with millions of poor,extreme poor people.You hear me kiberan?

I really pity you Danganyikas - in your life time I don't see you coming close to Kenya. In 2005 - you were really close - you economy was 17B - Kenya was 19B - but alas! in 2018 - Kenya economy is nearly 90B - and yours is 55B - nearly half of Kenya --- the gap is not reducing - it's widening. Kenya have made very many smart decisions that are now starting to bring in the dividends irrespective of whatever happens - our long term investment in high quality education, family planning, investment in infrastructure and governance are starting to pay off in a way that it's impossible for Tanzania to ever catch up.

Kenya economy in 2022/2023 (about 4yrs from now) - will be about 150B dollars - I bet above Angola & Morroco. We will be competing with 4 nations then - Algeria,Nigeria,South Africa & Egypt. And all this we will do without MINERALS or OIL

Tanzania economy then will be struggling to hit where kenya right now is 80-90B (half of Kenya economy then) - despite all the coal, natural gas, diamonds and gold!!!!!!!!

Simply put Kenya is on a different level!!!!!!!! right now in sub-sahara kenya really compete with South Africa & Nigeria (only because of Oil & it's population) but long term the big boys in SSA will be South Africa & Kenya.

Kazikazi:
Just ask yourself why do u have flying toilets while Tz dont have? With the so called skills and capital why do u have the highest unemployed youth in east africa? With your so called skills but SGR is being built by china! Friend: know this..kenya is overrated.there is nothing to show for your so called skills.Your a third world nation;starving and with millions of poor,extreme poor people.You hear me kiberan?

Kazikazi:
Just ask yourself why do u have flying toilets while Tz dont have? With the so called skills and capital why do u have the highest unemployed youth in east africa? With your so called skills but SGR is being built by china! Friend: know this..kenya is overrated.there is nothing to show for your so called skills.Your a third world nation;starving and with millions of poor,extreme poor people.You hear me kiberan?

We're a third world country and what does that make you when you're waay much poorer and underdeveloped than Kenya, TZ is one the poorest countries in the world while Kenya is a middle income country...if kenya is poor,ask yourself why are your beggars flocking to Kenya? Why are you only exporting unprocessed farm products? Why are the world bank&IMF still giving you financial aid with conditions....brain of a villager

You guys are really patient with this Tanzanian buffoon, I don't know why you tolerate discussions with him when his main points are " flying toilets!'' I will take him and his ilk seriously when I see a metre of their electric SGR rail constructed. I don't have time for empty barrels..

Lamu Port in Kenya-The artistic impression of this three berths was brilliantly executed onto the ground!

A nice work of engineering!

I sometimes laugh at critics of our railway.As for electricity use,it is very much in our plans.Another thing,the railway was designed mainly for cargo haulage and not passengers,that explains the speeds.You can not do double stack containers and drive the freight locomotive to speeds of more than 120 km/hr. I guess only a few here would understand!

rvp2018:
I really pity you Danganyikas - in your life time I don't see you coming close to Kenya. In 2005 - you were really close - you economy was 17B - Kenya was 19B - but alas! in 2018 - Kenya economy is nearly 90B - and yours is 55B - nearly half of Kenya --- the gap is not reducing - it's widening. Kenya have made very many smart decisions that are now starting to bring in the dividends irrespective of whatever happens - our long term investment in high quality education, family planning, investment in infrastructure and governance are starting to pay off in a way that it's impossible for Tanzania to ever catch up.

Kenya economy in 2022/2023 (about 4yrs from now) - will be about 150B dollars - I bet above Angola & Morroco. We will be competing with 4 nations then - Algeria,Nigeria,South Africa & Egypt. And all this we will do without MINERALS or OIL

Tanzania economy then will be struggling to hit where kenya right now is 80-90B (half of Kenya economy then) - despite all the coal, natural gas, diamonds and gold!!!!!!!!

Simply put Kenya is on a different level!!!!!!!! right now in sub-sahara kenya really compete with South Africa & Nigeria (only because of Oil & it's population) but long term the big boys in SSA will be South Africa & Kenya.

Mr kiberan;a country's economy is not measured on GDP alone.Do u know Tanzanias PPP is 176bn while kenya is 175? Do u know a GDP is not giving a more accurate picture of a nation's economy? A GDP is an old way of measuring an economy.a PPP is much more accurate.Thats why we are ahead of you.FYI kenya has oil, soda ash;coal;geothermal,alot of youthful population;etc.these are resouces.Stop pretending as if u have no resources.

Kur17:


We're a third world country and what does that make you when you're waay much poorer and underdeveloped than Kenya, TZ is one the poorest countries in the world while Kenya is a middle income country...if kenya is poor,ask yourself why are your beggars flocking to Kenya? Why are you only exporting unprocessed farm products? Why are the world bank&IMF still giving you financial aid with conditions....brain of a villager

This is just a cheap kibera's talk.were are the beggars? How do u know they r from Tz? Why cant u deport them? Is begging legal in kenya? Who told u we only export unprocessed stuffs? Poor kiberan;Our PPP is ahead of you.swallow that.shoul I show u all of our produce?

Kazikazi:
This is just a cheap kibera's talk.were are the beggars? How do u know they r from Tz? Why cant u deport them? Is begging legal in kenya? Who told u we only export unprocessed stuffs? Poor kiberan;Our PPP is ahead of you.swallow that.shoul I show u all of our produce?

GDP together with HDI is the best way to measure a countries wealth and prosperity. GNI ppp of Tanzania is 161 and that of Kenya is 175 according to CIA world Factbook.

Nominal GDP(In USD) is the "only" accurate way to compare economies otherwise how can you give equal weight to Danganyika horrible good and services with Kenya. For example how can you compare your horrible educaton with Kenya? PPP is only useful for comparing year-on-year growth for stuff like poverty estimation!

Kazikazi:
Mr kiberan;a country's economy is not measured on GDP alone.Do u know Tanzanias PPP is 176bn while kenya is 175? Do u know a GDP is not giving a more accurate picture of a nation's economy? A GDP is an old way of measuring an economy.a PPP is much more accurate.Thats why we are ahead of you.FYI kenya has oil, soda ash;coal;geothermal,alot of youthful population;etc.these are resouces.Stop pretending as if u have no resources.