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Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by nepapole(m): 2:44pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
TeamSimple:How about saint obi. |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by Jiff349(m): 2:44pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
An2elect2:Saint your foot right..... just struggle to make heaven ..... 1 Like |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by Endy4all(m): 2:47pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
An2elect2: Deal with it. 2 Likes |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by Nobody: 2:49pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
Sanchez01:I have heard, don't be a Catholic. It takes a lot to be a Catholic. The Catholic Church does not owe anyone any apologies. The church has survived for centuries and will continue to exist till the end of time. It's members will continue to make heaven as long as they do what's right by God. The Blessed Mother Mary will continue to be honored. from now on all generations shall call me blessed. Luke 1:48 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by cyrilamx(m): 2:51pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
seunmsg:guy when you study the Catholic Church rules about hagiography (writings about lives saints) you won't be typing this trash. I wish I can meet you one on one to lecture u n your likes that declaring somebody a saint in the early church predate the Bible. It is those who have led blameless life of sacrifices, utmost humility and holiness, that after their exit from this word are put forward as candidate for sainthood(causa santae). In fact many don't survive the rigorous scrutiny of congregation of the saints as they have somebody in that congregation (usually a Bishop or cardinal) who plays the devil's advocate. His work is to see the suppose miracle attributed to the intercession of the candidate to be beatified/canonised as having natural explanation or a ruse. This said prelate as 'devil's advocate) dig up everything about candidate, his weakness, failings and even negative rumours just to discredit the person. However everyone one of his observations is subjected to investigation and vetting by the congregation for the cause of the saints in the Holy See. It usually rigorous and not foul play. One of the requirements of declaring one a beati or Saint is a miracle must be attributed through his/her intercession not necessarily he/she must have performed miracle while alive. The said miracle, must be real, instantaneous, devoid of natural/scientific explanation. In the Catholic Church any purported miracle must be scrutinised, analysed by experts in different fields of human endeavour and some of them are atheists who necessarily will be bias towards anything supernatural and the church. However they are men usually of honour. It is after careful analysis that these experts will come up with their findings that the said healing or cures which occurs as a result of the intercession of the deceased now in heaven defy any medical/scientific explanation. But if the healing has proof of human explanation or conspiracy, the church suspend such process. Sometimes raising a deceased person to the alter of sainthood us cumbersome, can take a centuries but some process are quicker depending on the diocesan process and other factors like popularity etc. So after the finding of eminent scientists, It now left for the church to carry out its own findings to ascertain if it is from the evil one or God's intervention. It takes a miracle according to one protestant theologian for the Catholic Church to declare happenings as miracle. The church hierarchy which is known as the magisterium is ever so careful. 2000 years of dealing with humanity has taught her how deceptive man can be. So mother Theresa like you said performed no miracle while alive...but you misunderstood the miracle attributed to her intercession now in heaven with God. That what the Church studies and brought forward. This is what the Catholic Church calls the relationship or communion of Saints in the Nicaea creed. We believe there are three churches: the church militants(those of us still struggling here and praying), the church purgation/Suffering ( those who died in friendship with God but couldn't go direct into heaven due to sins they have not atone for. Ck 1jn.5:13-18 for Deadly and none Deadly sins) and finally the church triumphant ( thses are those who lead holy lives...with sacrifices and using every day of their cooperating wit the grace of God, worked out their salvation in fear and trembling. After death, they went direct to heaven...they are saints) though tg scripture calls every believer a saint but in reality only those who are in presence of God after death worth the title as many will still fall away while on earth. Plz ask any question you want.... 14 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by Endy4all(m): 2:51pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
Sanchez01: Since you can't change those facts. Why not keep it to yourself. 2 Likes |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by bozcojohn5: 2:51pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
Great woman of virtue! Saint Teresa of Calcutta, pray for us. 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by namuguibe(m): 2:52pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
Uyi168: Seun:Well, every notable public figure will have their fair share of criticisms. When you examine a person's work in life and when the good the person has done for humanity far far outweighs the bad, the person deserves all the praise and plaudits. Every religious person does promote his/her religion. @Seun, you do the same with your forum, making an exclusive section just for Muslims and preventing any others from posting comments there unless they proclaim to be Muslims. I can be critical of that and say you have a religious bias or instead view your complete body of work and be more constructive and say you have provided a relatively open platform for discussion. I have had the privilege of visiting Mother Theresa's home in Kolkata, India. She may have made mistakes in her life but what she has done for the poor and neglected in India (particularly the state of West Bengal) is visible and generally recognized and acknowledged in India. 4 Likes |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by marhoinspire: 2:52pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
Although Mother Teresa was beatified as a saint by the Catholic Church in 2003, in reality she was far from the saint the Church would lead you to believe. In fact, Mother Teresa isn’t even her real name; she was born Anjeze Gonxhe Bojaxhiu in Albania. The issues certainly don’t end with her pseudonym. Researchers today have called Mother Teresa an empty “PR ploy” by the Vatican to rehabilitate their tarnished image. Mother Teresa’s claim to fame is helping poor around the world, but she did quite the opposite throughout her lifetime. Mother Teresa made niceties with right-wing Haitian Dictator Jean-Claude Duvalier and accepted money from him which had been stolen from Haiti’s poor. Duvalier was known for stealing millions from Haiti’s poor so that he could maintain his own lavish lifestyle. He spent $2 million of Haiti’s money to pay for his extravagant wedding. Duvalier also profited from drug trafficking and selling the body parts of deceased Haitians. Mother Teresa rubbed elbows with another thief by the name of Charles Keating. If that name rings a bell for you, it should; Keating is the banker best known for defrauding American taxpayers out of over $3 billion during the savings and loan crisis of the ’80s and ’90s. Keating donated $1.25 million to Mother Teresa and lent her his private jet so that the missionary could jet set around the world. Keating would later be convicted in state and federal courts of a litany of crimes including racketeering, fraud, and conspiracy. After Keating was convicted, Mother Teresa refused to return the stolen money and asked one of the courts to overturn his sentence. What she did with the money remains in question. The care she gave to the sick and poor in her hospices was observed to be wholly unsanitary, medical care was wholly insufficient, and crucial pain management for the dying was cruelly inadequate. Her hospices were found to not even distinguish between terminally ill patients and those who could be cured. Consequently, patients with curable illness died from the poor, unsanitary treatment they received from Mother Teresa’s facilities. Her motivation for setting these hospices may have been less compassion and more fundamentalism. Mother Teresa callously encouraged those who worked in her hospices to baptize dying patients, regardless of the patient’s religious beliefs or consent. Mother Teresa’s fundamentalism stretched beyond the subject of baptism. She claimed that abortion was “the greatest enemy of peace in the world,” and opposed contraception even in the cases of rape and incest. Mother Teresa also defended a pedophilic priest named Donald McGuire, trying to get him leniency after he was convicted of raping children. She wanted him to be reinstated as a priest despite his heinous crimes. The greatest irony of it all is that by the end of her life, Mother Teresa didn’t even believe in the fundamentalism she spouted or the religion she spent her life serving. After her death, letters Mother Teresa had written to the Vatican surfaced and revealed that she had stopped believing in the religion she plugged. Mother Teresa wrote: “What do I labor for? If there be no God , there can be no soul. If there be no soul then, Jesus, You also are not true.” 1 Like |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by jaey(m): 2:53pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
Please let a Catholic member: -State the miraces that happened through praying in her name -Mention the signs that happened to a part of her body. (as for other saints, it was said that one of them's blood did not decay another one was that beautiful flowers were sprouting around the grave of the saint) Kindly answer for clarity and learning purpose. Cheers 1 Like |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by karleone(m): 2:53pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
Sanchez01: Dwell on KJV!? Oh bro, do your research well. A little help from GOOGLE will reveal a lot to you. Maybe you'll need to read up about the origin of. The Holy Bible and the Latin Vulgate. By the way, your hatred for the Catholic Church - The Pillar and Foundation of Truth - will lead you to nowhere. You better seek God's wisdom in other to discern the real truth. Happy Sunday Sancte Teresa.. Ora pro nobis 4 Likes |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by hijodedios: 2:57pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
An2elect2: 1 Like |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by herald9: 2:57pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
If you're electing other people to intercede on your behalf, it means Jesus has failed in all ramifications.... What stops him from being IMPEACHED? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by AsoRockz01(m): 2:58pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
Kizyte: Hahahahahahahahahaha. Akukuo na egwu. |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by raphieMontella: 3:01pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
Seun:bro u should know catholics run the whole show... Its just their normal game plan |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by madapcmod: 3:04pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
Sancta Teresa... Ora pro nobis! 1 Like |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by AsoRockz01(m): 3:05pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
jaey: Please mention me if you get thheir response because I am also interested. |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by Sanchez01: 3:13pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
Vanillaskin:Since you love twisting like some other Catholics, I'd want to correct a notion about the passage you cited an excerpt. 45 downwards KS known as Mary's song. Those are from Mary, the mother of your god, praising God. 2 Likes |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by Nobody: 3:13pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
marhoinspire:I read through all what you have said and they could be true. But let me ask you this Are you better than her? No insult intended A thief stole heaven just at the last minute, by being crucified next to Jesus, and if you looked at him life history, it could look even worse than all those things you wrote about Saints Teresa but he still made heaven. It's easy to point out the bad things people did in their lives and want to use it to judge them, but God has the final say. 2 Likes |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by Nobody: 3:18pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
Sanchez01:Wait, wait are you trying to say she meant all generations shall call God blessed? Because if that's how you understand it then I have nothing else to say to, let me not waste my precious time. 2 Likes |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by Sanchez01: 3:19pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
herald9:Please, preach this brother. Preach this to them. I don't understand how a people would call themselves Christians, do things contrary to the teachings and doctrines of the Scriptures and exhibit great dogmas when you try to make them see. In their words, indirectly, Christ is useless. Mary and Saints hold precious spaces in their hearts than Christ. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by tk4rd: 3:23pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
An2elect2:It's like you have been to heaven before.?? Pls, how many times have you been to this heaven.? |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by neolboy(m): 3:25pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
An2elect2: why not save urself all this stress and face your doctrine, don't judge other doctrines as if urs is the best. |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by Ghost01(m): 3:25pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
Seun:Wikipedia? Objective? Seriously?! Don't make the mistake of repeating that assertion in an academic circle o. 1 Like |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by Sanchez01: 3:27pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
Vanillaskin:No, she meant generations would call her blessed meaning, fortunate, privileged, to have carried Christ in her womb. Like I'd say to Mary lovers, there was nothing special about her from the outset because Joseph was working his way on humiliating her before an Angel of God came to enlighten him. You could use Adam Clarke's commentary to ease your understanding. Rather than acknowledge the source, you people acknowledge the vessel that was used. Rather than worship the Origin of all, you acknowledge a piece in the story and scheme of things; a woman who later went on to conceive 'sin' like every woman in the world and had sex, just like every woman. You ask this same woman to pray for you. Thousands of people all over the world scream Hail Mary night and day, at the same time, indirectly giving her the one powerful attribute of God - Omnipresent. 2 Likes |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by Oluwason(m): 3:30pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
An2elect2: Hmm, though they have issues with their doctrine but I tell u its not as simple as u quoted. U will be surprise when u get to Heaven. |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by Ghost01(m): 3:31pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
Sanchez01:And how is the bolded different from praying to a dead Jew? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by Seun(m): 3:31pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
Ghost01:It's not an authoritative source but it's certainly more objective than most websites. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by Nobody: 3:36pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
kaecyy: i dont understand .... but.... those ones u called saint are they not canonized? i tot its wen u are canonized is when u will become saint so for u to recognize them as saints means they are canonized. i stand to be corrected. |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by nelsonjj: 3:36pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
SleekyPosh:Watch What Your Tongue Roll Out Fire That May Consume U, Silent Is Always D Best When U Dont Know What To Say. |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by Nobody: 3:37pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
Seun:Don't mind that one, Wikipedia is as objective as you can get. Contributions are made from ordinary people like you and me with credible sources, and if the Wikipedia admins deem your source not credible enough, then they delete your entry. Articles that they feel there's a bias to either side, they put a DISCLAIMER such as the Wikipedia article about the Biafran War, saying that the article might seem to lean in favor of one side as opposed to the other. You can go on with your discussion, I'm following. btw I was banned yesterday for asking if somebody really wanted to be as old as the 120 year old benue woman. I'm able to post now but the ban is still on my profile page |
Re: Mother Teresa Is Now 'Saint Teresa Of Calcutta'! by Nobody: 3:42pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
Sanchez01:I get it, you don't like Her Don't worry yourself over it The Catholics are not worried about it But let me ask this God is a perfectionist, do you believe that? If yes, then how do you think those stories about her having other children could be true? Don't you think it'll reduce the divinity of Jesus? In the sense that He was not the only one to pass through the womb of His mother. Let me also ask When you call blood of Jesus, who gave Him blood? Who's breastfeed Him, and cared for Him? By the way, who says Catholics don't worship Jesus? I think you have selective hearing meaning you only hear what you want to hear. If you can find any Catholic Church which doesn't have the statue of Jesus on the alter then I will believe you. Good day 2 Likes 1 Share |
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