DeepSight:


Absolutely wrong sire.

There is indeed a difference between religion and faith. Many adhere to a religion and have no faith. Many have faith and adhere to no religion. I have faith and I do not adhere to any religion. Indeed, what is faith but belief and hope in something: in an idea, a person or an expectation? I have great faith in myself, I have great faith in love and I have immense faith in the grand order of all things (which many may call "the will of God" ).

In the grand scheme of things - a scintilla of which we cannot even conceive or apprehend, we are way too presumptuous to begin to judge and conclusively assess the justice of the Grand Order of things: of eras and epochs which we cannot and will never be able to conceive in the bird's eye view trajectory: we grope: worse than the blind men about an elephant: and ridiculously declare that which we know not.

Of all people: you ought to know better.

plaetton:


Unconvincing.
Too light on substance.

DeepSight:


It is not true that many adhere to religion and have no faith? It is not true that many have faith and adhere to no religion?
It is not true that faith is what I described it as: belief or hope in an idea, person or expectation?

DeepSight:


It is not true that many adhere to religion and have no faith? It is not true that many have faith and adhere to no religion?
It is not true that faith is what I described it as: belief or hope in an idea, person or expectation?

What about these is insufficient to show you that religion is not the same thing as faith.

A religion is an established practice often by a group with a set of beliefs and practices.
My faith in a better tomorrow needs no organized religion: and there are indeed faithless religionists; you cannot deny that.

And what is spirituality? It is (or rather, should be, for each of us) what Nwankwo has described it as: and again: you of all people should relate to it: as you speak so often of energies: perhaps I may describe your spirituality as the essential energy or vibration that is the inner you.

That has nothing in this world to do with religion.

plaetton:

I have no disagreements with what Nwankwo has written, though I would have , as you rightly said, used more scientific terminology. The meat of his argument makes sense.

But my question remains; Is the scientific method not a better, the better way of discerning reality, rather than the obsession with " the spiritual ".

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DeepSight:


It is not true that many adhere to religion and have no faith? It is not true that many have faith and adhere to no religion?
It is not true that faith is what I described it as: belief or hope in an idea, person or expectation?

What about these is insufficient to show you that religion is not the same thing as faith.

A religion is an established practice often by a group with a set of beliefs and practices.
My faith in a better tomorrow needs no organized religion: and there are indeed faithless religionists; you cannot deny that.

And what is spirituality? It is (or rather, should be, for each of us) what Nwankwo has described it as: and again: you of all people should relate to it: as you speak so often of energies: perhaps I may describe your spirituality as the essential energy or vibration that is the inner you.

That has nothing in this world to do with religion.

KingEbukasBlog:



Wise man

stephenmorris:
what most of you don't understand is that spirituality births religion, every religion has one form of spirituality rubbish in it, either you like it or not

if you say spirituality exists then the little "2 year old boy" from akwa ibom deserves to have been murdered or left to die and not rescued by "anja loveren".the so called belief by we homosapiens that there is anything spiritual among us is damn

wrong we think of ourselves but not think of the dogs, plants and other animals,

the fact there is a form of energy that keeps us alive doesn't mean its a spiritual force but rather a powerful natural force , that keeps all other living things alive and therefore we should search out what this force or energy is.

what we don't know in science we don't know therefore we should endeavor to search out and not say its spiritual and above the understanding of mankind.

JackBizzle:


You dey feel am abi?

plaetton:


I have elaborated before on how self awareness and self cognisance are functions of the brain, mirror neurons to be precise.

plaetton:
Yes. A very valid question.

Since the dawn of human life, and up to this day, there has been so much Ado about spirituality.

In fact, spiritual mumbo jumbos occupy a grossly disproportionate part of the African mind in this 21st century.
Why?

Looking back at the last 6,000 yrs recorded human history, what has the pursuit of " the spiritual" ever benefited humankind?

Thousands of so-called prophets, wise men, enlightened souls, gurus, sons , daughters, nephews and nieces of god have come and gone, and in most cases, left their environments worse than they met them.

Aside from hurling humankind from one dark pit right into another, in what ways have the pursuit of the " spiritual" positively advanced the human trek?

C:C Deepsight.

urheme:




Deepsight seems to be your only challenge on this forum...

Ok spirituality does not epp but God Helps......are you happy now

JackBizzle:



Contradiction!!!!

God is a spirit. One has to be spiritual to reach God. If spirituality does not help, then, God cannot help!







DEBUNKED!

urheme:



you again ba