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Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by CoolUsername: 5:37pm On Sep 27, 2016
felixomor:


U see urself. No wonder u av problem with the word.
It doesn't imply omnipotent.
And even omnipotent doesnt imply all-doing.
So go study

If I know everything them I know how to give myself the power to do anything.

But don't let us deviate from the topic, Ranchoddas was highlighting a MAJOR contradiction in your religion's doctrine. I was calling you out for attacking him instead of defending your point.
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by felixomor: 5:37pm On Sep 27, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
You call what Paul is doing extraordinary, something he has a fifty percent chance of getting correctly. He fails some as any other other person would and you want me to take you seriously? What are you smoking?

Oga, go and do it and show us the results, period.

Paul predicted a whole tournament.

Predict the champions league from now till nxt year and call me when ur results r ready.
Oshi.

Moreover, i can see u attacking paul to make a point.

There are people who have foretold the future before. Paul is just an example.
By the time u r done with Paul, i will tell u many more people so u can also find the holes in their life.
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by Nobody: 5:41pm On Sep 27, 2016
Doctoralien, i must applaud d way u answered all those questions, just d way i was expectin... But these athiests never giveup even if u shame them
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by CoolUsername: 5:44pm On Sep 27, 2016
DoctorAlien:


How did man have no control over his actions?

Say, I know everything that has ever and would ever happen, I know that if I create Adam and Eve the serpent would lead them to sin by eating a forbidden fruit. So what do I do? I create them anyway, put the servant in the same garden that I put them along with the tree that bears the forbidden fruit. I then instruct not to eat from it but neglect to give Adam and Eve a sense of right and wrong. I then proceed to punish them and ask their descendants to come.

I am, therefore:
1. really wicked, or
2. really stupid.

I didn't give man a chance to succeed the moment I put him in that garden.
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by Nobody: 5:47pm On Sep 27, 2016
CoolUsername:


So why is he punishing ask their ancestors for something that they had no control over.
and what is that they had no control over
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by DoctorAlien(m): 5:47pm On Sep 27, 2016
Smallville10:
Doctoralien, i must applaud d way u answered all those questions, just d way i was expectin... But these athiests never giveup even if u shame them

Thank you bro. smiley
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by Ranchhoddas: 5:50pm On Sep 27, 2016
felixomor:


Oga, go and do it and show us the results, period.

Paul predicted a whole tournament.

Predict the champions league from now till nxt year and call me when ur results r ready.
Oshi.

Moreover, i can see u attacking paul to make a point.

There are people who have foretold the future before. Paul is just an example.
By the time u r done with Paul, i will tell u many more people so u can also find the holes in their life.
What about the ones he failed? It was fifty-fifty damnit. Siri and Cortana are also making correct predictions. Maybe they are also supernatural.
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by DoctorAlien(m): 5:51pm On Sep 27, 2016
CoolUsername:


Say, I know everything that has ever and would ever happen, I know that if I create Adam and Eve the serpent would lead them to sin by eating a forbidden fruit. So what do I do? I create them anyway, put the servant in the same garden that I put them along with the tree that bears the forbidden fruit. I then instruct not to eat from it but neglect to give Adam and Eve a sense of right and wrong. I then proceed to punish them and ask their descendants to come.

I am, therefore:
1. really wicked, or
2. really stupid.

I didn't give man a chance to succeed the moment I put him in that garden.

You really have a distorted idea of GOD and the Bible.

This whole thing is a struggle between GOD and Satan. GOD cast Satan out for disobedience. GOD created man. If GOD had not put that tree there to test their loyalty, Satan would have said that man obeys GOD because there's nothing to make him sin. GOD put the tree there to test man's loyalty to Himself.
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by felixomor: 5:53pm On Sep 27, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
What about the ones he failed? It was fifty-fifty damnit. Siri and Cortana are also making correct predictions. Maybe they are also supernatural.

Oga, since u r also" natural" like ,Paul, or are u not natural?

Do ur own, lets see.
Predict a whole tournament and call me.
Here on NL
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by CoolUsername: 5:54pm On Sep 27, 2016
DoctorAlien:


You really have a distorted idea of GOD and the Bible.

This whole thing is a struggle between GOD and Satan. GOD cast Satan out for disobedience. GOD created man. If GOD had not put that tree there to test their loyalty, Satan would have said that man obeys GOD because there's nothing to make him sin. GOD put the tree there to test man's loyalty to Himself.

God should not need to test man's loyalty as he knows everything.

In fact, as long as the Devil isn't as powerful as God, there shouldn't be a struggle.
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by DoctorAlien(m): 5:55pm On Sep 27, 2016
CoolUsername, please tell us how Adam and Eve had no sense of right or wrong.
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by DoctorAlien(m): 6:00pm On Sep 27, 2016
CoolUsername:


God should not need to test man's loyalty as he knows everything.

In fact, as long as the Devil isn't as powerful as God, there shouldn't be a struggle.

I'm laughing out loud now grin

GOD should not test man's loyalty because He knows everything? That doesn't add up. He did not create a robot. He created a being with freewill. Without testing man's loyalty, Satan could argue that man obeyed simply because there was no avenue for him to disobey.

What then do you think is going on in the world today? THE GREAT CONVERSY!

Satan challenged GOD. That is a short summary of the whole thing. However, he will be destroyed, together with sinners.
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by Ranchhoddas: 6:03pm On Sep 27, 2016
felixomor:


Oga, since u r also" natural" like ,Paul, or are u not natural?

Do ur own, lets see.
Predict a whole tournament and call me.
Here on NL
Ogbeni. He did not predict a whole tournament. A world cup has 64 games. The guy predicted just 7. All involving Germany. Na wa for you o. Give me a link to the champions league matches abeg. Rubbish!
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by felixomor: 6:07pm On Sep 27, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Ogbeni. He did not predict a whole tournament. A world cup has 64 games. The guy predicted just 7. All involving Germany. Na wa for you o. Give me a link to the champions league matches abeg. Rubbish!

Lets go, even if na 7
Ok pick a team in the champions league and predict them to the final right now.
Moreover, its even more remarkable that Paul doesnt even watch football.
But i still dash u.

Predict, let me take note of this page.
So that i will remind u when the time comes.
Oya, go
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by CoolUsername: 6:08pm On Sep 27, 2016
DoctorAlien:


I'm laughing out loud now grin

GOD should not test man's loyalty because He knows everything? That doesn't add up. He did not create a robot. He created a being with freewill. Without testing man's loyalty, Satan could argue that man obeyed simply because there was no avenue for him to disobey.

What then do you think is going on in the world today? THE GREAT CONVERSY!

Satan challenged GOD. That is a short summary of the whole thing. However, he will be destroyed, together with sinners.

Then that means God didn't know whether Adam would sin or not so he isn't all knowing. That's what a contradiction is.
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by DoctorAlien(m): 6:09pm On Sep 27, 2016
CoolUsername:


Then that means God didn't know whether Adam would sin or not so he isn't all knowing. That's what a contradiction is.

He knew that they would sin. What contradiction are you talking about?
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by CoolUsername: 6:15pm On Sep 27, 2016
DoctorAlien:
CoolUsername, please tell us how Adam and Eve had no sense of right or wrong.

The serpent said so.

Genesis 3:5
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

The bible clearly states that their eyes were indeed opened. They also realized their unclothedness, indicating a loss of childlike innocence.

Genesis 3:7
And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by CoolUsername: 6:16pm On Sep 27, 2016
DoctorAlien:


He knew that they would sin. What contradiction are you talking about?

If he knew that they would sin, there was no need for a test because they were doomed to fail.
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by Ranchhoddas: 6:18pm On Sep 27, 2016
felixomor:


Lets go, even if na 7
Ok pick a team in the champions league and predict them to the final right now.
Moreover, its even more remarkable that Paul doesnt even watch football.
But i still dash u.

Predict, let me take note of this page.
So that i will remind u when the time comes.
Oya, go
Mancity will win the league. Barca will get to the semi-final. Leicester will not get a top four finish. Bayern will win the Bundesliga. Madrid and Dortmund will qualify from their groups, so will Bayern and Atletico as well as PSG and Arsenal... Gerrrraarrrraaahia Mehn..
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by DoctorAlien(m): 6:18pm On Sep 27, 2016
CoolUsername:


If he knew that they would sin, there was no need for a test because they were doomed to fail.

So what will make them sin if there is no avenue for them to sin?
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by felixomor: 6:21pm On Sep 27, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Mancity will win the league. Barca will get to the semi-final. Leicester will not get a top four finish. Bayern will win the Bundesliga. Madrid and Dortmund will qualify from their groups, so will Bayern and Atletico as well as PSG and Arsenal... Gerrrraarrrraaahia Mehn..

Hahahahahhahah..........
Coward.
Predict a single tournament. U r predicting pieces of yeye hopes. grin
Mscheeeewwww.....
U r even below "natural", lol
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by DoctorAlien(m): 6:24pm On Sep 27, 2016
CoolUsername:


The serpent said so.

Genesis 3:5
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

The bible clearly states that their eyes were indeed opened. They also realized their unclothedness, indicating a loss of childlike innocence.

Genesis 3:7
And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

Brother, their eyes were opened does not mean that they didn't know from GOD's stern warnings that eating that fruit is a sin.

Their eyes were opened, and they began to see inadequacy and shamefulness in their unclothedness. They were naked before, and not ashamed. But when their eyes were opened, they became ashamed of their unclothedness.

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Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by Ranchhoddas: 6:29pm On Sep 27, 2016
felixomor:


Hahahahahhahah..........
Coward.
Predict a single tournament. U r predicting pieces of yeye hopes. grin
Mscheeeewwww.....
U r even below "natural", lol
Is the premier league not a single tournament?
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by yorhmienerd(m): 6:32pm On Sep 27, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Mancity will win the league. Barca will get to the semi-final. Leicester will not get a top four finish. Bayern will win the Bundesliga. Madrid and Dortmund will qualify from their groups, so will Bayern and Atletico as well as PSG and Arsenal... Gerrrraarrrraaahia Mehn..
I laugh you, seriously this predictions are known even to a baby at the start of the season. Predict a complete tounament, you are saying thrash
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by felixomor: 6:35pm On Sep 27, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Is the premier league not a single tournament?

No bros, its a "league"
Tournaments include world cup, euro cup, FA cup, UCL, europa etc. grin

U think say u smart abi?
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by Ranchhoddas: 6:39pm On Sep 27, 2016
felixomor:

No bros, its a "league" Tournaments include world cup, euro cup, FA cup, UCL, europa etc. grin
U think say u smart abi?
Fine. Barcelona will win the champions league.
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by CoolUsername: 6:40pm On Sep 27, 2016
DoctorAlien:


So what will make them sin if there is no avenue for them to sin?

Satan. Whom God put in the same garden as Adam and Eve, knowing what would happen.
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by Ranchhoddas: 6:40pm On Sep 27, 2016
felixomor:


No bros, its a "league"
Tournaments include world cup, euro cup, FA cup, UCL, europa etc. grin

U think say u smart abi?
Fine. Barcelona will win the champions league.But I hope you know that was not what the octopus did. It was one game at a time.
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by Ranchhoddas: 6:41pm On Sep 27, 2016
yorhmienerd:
I laugh you, seriously this predictions are known even to a baby at the start of the season. Predict a complete tounament, you are saying thrash
Get sense na.
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by CoolUsername: 6:43pm On Sep 27, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Brother, their eyes were opened does not mean that they didn't know from GOD's stern warnings that eating that fruit is a sin.

Their eyes were opened, and they began to see inadequacy and shamefulness in their unclothedness. They were naked before, and not ashamed. But when their eyes were opened, they became ashamed of their unclothedness.

They had no concept of sin. Someone told them something, someone told them something else. They tested to see who was correct. They didn't know they were doing evil.
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by DoctorAlien(m): 6:44pm On Sep 27, 2016
CoolUsername:


Satan. Whom God put in the same garden as Adam and Eve, knowing what would happen.

You're terribly funny. Satan simply entered the serpent. The serpent was not satan.
Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Doctoralien(christian) by raphieMontella: 6:46pm On Sep 27, 2016
DoctorAlien:


It is pertinent to note that neither Luke nor John explicitly says that what they reported was Jesus last words. The seven words of Jesus are compiled not from one gospel but the four of them. However, I can say that the last words of Jesus were "Father into your hand I commend my spirit" because that is a prayer. He began His ministry with prayer and ended it with prayer. Also, Luke 23:46 says Jesus cried out with a loud voice, and then commended His spirit into His Father's hand. We don't know what he said in that cry. It might be "it is finished" but surely it doesn't matter much in our race towards Heaven.



John 19:30Good News Translation (GNT) 30 Jesus drank the wine and said, “It is finished!” Then he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.


Luke 23:46Good News Translation (GNT) 46 Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Father! In your hands I place my spirit!” He said this and died.
the bolded in john says its explicitly jesus's last words....
The bolded in luke is what jesus said in the loud cry...
The ''red'' shows its jesus's last words also...
Also...lets stick to the definition of contradiction


DEFINITION OF CONTRADICTION
contradiction
 /ˌkɑːntrəˈdɪkʃən/
noun plural contradictions
1 : the act of saying something that is opposite or very different in meaning to something else

2 : : a difference or disagreement between two things which means that both cannot be true


this is the definition of contradiction...

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