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Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by vedaxcool(m): 7:37am On Oct 13, 2016
Nice article but you left out hitting an okada rider... na instant fire be that.
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by tkpoint2(m): 7:48am On Oct 13, 2016
OP Thanks.

But how do we disconnect the battery terminals without opening the hood?
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by pricipal2003(m): 7:59am On Oct 13, 2016
This is both educative and informative. But please note that "fuel is actually less dense than water" I am sure that must be an oversight.
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by femi4: 8:02am On Oct 13, 2016
YourWife:

OP... I thought water was denser.
Thanks for the info, will keep at finger tip. Thanks
Water is heavier than gasoline and will fall out to the bottom
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by Alvin007: 8:10am On Oct 13, 2016
Found a perfect pic for number 3...'clogged catalyst ish'

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Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by modsRbastard: 8:24am On Oct 13, 2016
Alvin007:
Found a perfect pic for number 3...'clogged catalyst ish'

Doesn't always mean a clogged catalyst in most cases, could be an engine burning rich and that happens when you have a faulty spark plug or not getting required amount of power at your spark plug which could be a result of faulty ECU hence fuel slips into the exhaust. This is one the whys some mercedes benz have 2 2plugs to one cylinder for cleaner combustion.

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Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by Alvin007: 8:34am On Oct 13, 2016
modsRbastard:


Doesn't always mean a clogged catalyst in most cases, could be an engine burning rich and that happens when you have a faulty spark plug or not getting required amount of power at your spark plug which could be a result of faulty ECU hence fuel slips into the exhaust. This is one the whys some mercedes benz have 2 2plugs to one cylinder for cleaner combustion.

Ok SIR!
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by billyG(m): 8:42am On Oct 13, 2016
nice writeup but fuel is not denser than water.
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by Ranchhoddas: 9:11am On Oct 13, 2016
YourWife:

OP... I thought water was denser.
Thanks for the info, will keep at finger tip. Thanks
You are correct. Petrol will float on water.
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by Originalsly: 9:13am On Oct 13, 2016
Cars are designed with safety in mind... and to make it very difficult for fires to break out even when in an accident.Wayyy too many car fires here.... same cars in other parts of the world... and this makes me believe the main cause are "mechanics"....especially the wire guys! How to prevent? .... take your car to certified mechanics.

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Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by Nobody: 9:20am On Oct 13, 2016
Well, i don't have a car but i just read the thread with faith that one day the information will be useful.
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by diportivo: 10:36am On Oct 13, 2016
jbonito:


Pull over --- Park well
Hood ---- ' Bonnet '

Hope I helped.

U haven't

If the op composed this write up himself,he wldnt av used pull over or hood

I'm sure it was pulled off the internet and edited

Plagiarism is a crime u know

I hope u get my point?

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Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by obinnaviv: 10:53am On Oct 13, 2016
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Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by emmaliver(m): 10:57am On Oct 13, 2016
Thnx. Hope i can share
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by richforeverMM: 11:42am On Oct 13, 2016
diportivo:
Hardly a day u say

Iv not seen a car burn in years grin

BTW,pls what does "pull over" and "open the hood" mean?

What's "hood" in a car?

Hood is the bonnet of the car.
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by jbonito(m): 11:57am On Oct 13, 2016
diportivo:


U haven't

If the op composed this write up himself,he wldnt av used pull over or hood

I'm sure it was pulled off the internet and edited

Plagiarism is a crime u know

I hope u get my point?

Lol. Yea I know. Op, do the needful n apologize

Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by professore(m): 12:51pm On Oct 13, 2016
One of the most enjoyable car posts I have read.
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by Nobody: 2:14pm On Oct 13, 2016
Ok
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by Rayplanet(m): 2:25pm On Oct 13, 2016
Nice and well articulated post.
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by SenatorJames(m): 4:32pm On Oct 13, 2016
Good information
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by TRYGO(m): 6:34pm On Oct 13, 2016
@dipotivo. "Pull over" simply means just park for safe ibe safe place, wey no to cause obstruction for cars.
"hood" means the bonnet area. Where your engine is located.
Not seen any car fires recently? Maybe cause you, or sorry, humans aren't Omnipotent like God.
I think you could get such statistics from the fire services, etc.

You're funny person though.
How's work na? Hope you're cool?
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by TRYGO(m): 6:48pm On Oct 13, 2016
@jbonitor. I don't plagiarize. I sit down, look at things, and then write on them.
No one is an island of knowledge. So, just like I apply my engineering principles in all the automotive jobs I do, the sources of all my info are from my experiences on the cars I fix; the problems car owners face; brainstorming potential problems people might face, etc. It's that simple to put up a write up like this. Just sit with the ideas, think through them, get primary and secondary info. That would help you, if you wanna learn. Well, I still appreciate your explanations to diportivo.
That's cool of you.
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by TRYGO(m): 6:55pm On Oct 13, 2016
@obinnabiv. I think car owners still kind of need some rest from all these insurance stuff. We all know incidences like these happens, but you've got to take preventive measures. I can't just say because I'm signed on to an auto insurance, to be careless.
In my opinion, if car owners can even avoid the services of insurance companies, that would be cool. But since fires, and other disasters are unintended, they'll still keep being part of the insurance stuff.
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by diportivo: 7:23pm On Oct 13, 2016
TRYGO:
@jbonitor. I don't plagiarize. I sit down, look at things, and then write on them.
No one is an island of knowledge. So, just like I apply my engineering principles in all the automotive jobs I do, the sources of all my info are from my experiences on the cars I fix; the problems car owners face; brainstorming potential problems people might face, etc. It's that simple to put up a write up like this. Just sit with the ideas, think through them, get primary and secondary info. That would help you, if you wanna learn. Well, I still appreciate your explanations to diportivo.
That's cool of you.

U can't explain what someone knows to him again and again....he didn't explain anything I didn't already know

That said,I wld like u to enlighten us the naija way more often dan not..makes it more enjoyable
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by TRYGO(m): 7:37pm On Oct 13, 2016
@vedaxcool. Okada and motor hitting to catch fire? Nawao! You de funny o!

@senator. Thanks a thousand. Please send in the millions from the senate to us!

@rayplanet and professors. Thanks for the grease on my driving shafts.
Your comments has reduced the amount of frictional forces working within me.
Because of all these, would pen down more articles as time foes on.
You guys need more automotive stuff?
Type DW Nig Ltd on your Facebook search icons for informative and educative videos and pictures.

@emmalivar. Sure, you can share. It's a free info.That's why I have post here.

@dankok. No worries. Remember when we all were in tertiary institutions, we thought the information we were getting somewhat wasn't going to have any applications in the future. So, cool down, and you'll get your car.

@original. There's a lot of truth in what you've just said.
How to prevent fires from mechanics and "wire guys"? Supervise them, or like you said, take it to a certified mechanic, or...

@billyG and ranchhiddas. I really appreciate that correction.

@pricipal. Its an oversight, sir. Because if its the reverse, there won't be the need for fire extinguishers to fight the fires.

@tkpoint2. Opening the hood, would depend on the nature or degree of the fire. You only confidently go and open up the hood, if you have a fire extinguisher at hand.
If the fire is mild, for instance just starting up with some smoke, you can rush and cautiously open it up and assess. But be safety conscious in your actions. But if its a wild kind of fire as seen in the pictures, don't attempt to open the hood. You're allowing the access of more oxygen in to the already burning fire.
Disconnecting the terminal depends on where your battery is positioned.

Pls bear with me, I'd I just didn't mention your names in the comments icon here.
I like the commendations and criticisms.
Its cool, especially the " water density thing", and people raising issues of plagiarism.
All what I penned down where from research, and my experiences in fixing cars.

Regards,
TRYGO...be mentally prepared for more!
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by TRYGO(m): 7:42pm On Oct 13, 2016
@diportivo. Don't still get you're saying. Is it some of the jargons have used you just don't get, or what? I think more 90% of people on this platform understood the write up. And that was why I took the time, to make the write up in such a way that even the layman could understand it.
Could you pls point out what you think is out if tune with "naija" you referenced?

Thanks.
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by TRYGO(m): 7:45pm On Oct 13, 2016
@alvin007. Wao! Like that reddish stuff. That buttresses that point perfectly. You're a good disciple ( well, I'm just kidding).

Thanks.
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by TRYGO(m): 7:46pm On Oct 13, 2016
@alvin007. Wao! Like that reddish stuff. That buttresses that point perfectly(clogged catalytic converter). You're a good disciple ( well, I'm just kidding).

Thanks.
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by uvalued(m): 9:10pm On Oct 13, 2016
TRYGO:
INTRODUCTION
Everyday that passes by in Lagos, there's hardly a day that you won't see a vehicle burning, or an already burnt down one by the street, or on the middle of the road. Its really a helpless sight to behold. The occupants, if lucky, escape the raging infernos from the fires, and some, not that really lucky, get killed as a result of various degrees of burns sustained in such incidents.
Instance is, when I was returning from one of the holy ghost services at the Redemption Camp early in the morning some months ago(I'm not by all means trying to be a religious PR here), I suddenly saw a Corolla '08 in frames, on the middle of the road. The owner of the car was no where to be found. Maybe, he has gone to look for "water" to fight the fire. Note of caution please. Don't use ordinary water to fight an inferno. That accelerates the fire, because fuel is denser than water.
That day, before 8:00am, the car was totally burnt to ashes.
You could imagine environmental , economic, and psychological impacts that incident must have caused the owner, and the environment.
What would have happened, if other adjacent cars caught fire? Imagine the ripple effect of that for a minute.
Incidences like these prevail everyday in Lagos, especially areas where vehicles are at close proximity with each other(See fig1).

WHAT CAUSES SUCH FIRES

For a fire to start, there must be the presence of AIR, FUEL, and a HEAT SOURCE.
There are a lots of causes of car fires.
The most common ones are:

1. Fuel(petrol). Leaks along fuel lines poses a dangerous threat to safety here.
Cars with a leaky injector nozzle system seals can allow tiny droplets of fuel drop on hot spots on an engine, or exhaust system, thereby leading to a fire. These seals are usually weak, when they are exposed to tremendous heat from the engine, and the atmospheric temperature of the environment. Normally at 60, 000miles, such seals loose their sealing properties, and create fire risks.

2. Electrical issues. When you open up the hood of your car, you see bunch of wire harnesses, connectors, etc, acting as a conduit for the flow of current to various components of the car.
If any of these wiring harnesses has a SHORT CIRCUITS problems, the flow of current would be limited, at the load, leading to the current traveling to an undesignated route. This route could be the body of the car, which acts as a ground. This undesired current flow that has found a new path, could trigger a fire, if for instance there's already a source of fuel provided it by a leaky fuel system component. Bu!!! you hear. Suddenly there's a fire raging.

3. Exhaust system. All internal combustion engine applications work through a lots of friction and stress, in order to produce the motion for the movement, you and I enjoy when we drive our new SUVs, or in a "danfo bus" cruising. But have you ever thought that those applications could go through temperatures of up to 2000C? With this kind of extreme temperature, coupled with outside temperature, that might be in the range of 30-40C, what do you expect your engine to do? A clogged catalytic converter would generate even more extreme temperatures that could instantly lead to a fire. Even us car owners, look for an escape route, when we're faced with the heat from traffic daily, and work stress. You escape that by putting on your car's Ac system, to take away that heat, in exchange for a clean cool air. Isn't it? OK. Same thing happens to your engine. This extreme temperature is exited through the exhaust system of the car, and straight to the environment.
Now. How does that exhaust system looks like? See Fig2: Exhaust system
Fuel system routed close to exhaust systems are at risks of causing car fires.
Manufacturers have over the years, routed fuel lines away from exhaust systems, and even shielded the exhaust systems with shield materials to protect excess heat from setting off fires. Some fuel system lines also use heat shields, to help reduce the risks of fires.

4. Oil spills. Engine oils, and automatic transmission fluids spills on engine components like the transmission system, cylinder heads, exhaust system manifold, a rotating driven solid shafts, and on engine chassis, etc can cause car fires.
The reason being as these spills gradually builds up into a sludge on those components, they trap dirt's made of combustibles, making them susceptible to generating heat and smoke, and then results into a fire while driving.

HOW TO PREVENT CAR FIRES

The most effective way to prevent car fires are:
1. Carry out preventive maintenance checks on all fuel, exhaust, and electrical systems at every oil change. These checks would help you determine their integrity, and eventually point out potential problem areas before they occur.

2. Ensure all maintenance/repairs carried out on the car's fire prone systems, such as the fuel, exhaust, and electrical systems are properly done.
Proper laid down procedures regarding repairs and safety must be strictly adhered to. Do not allow your mechanics to tell you, "Oga. It doesn't matter to put on an exhaust heat shield, or let's manage the fuel line clips. It won't do anything". If you currently have a mechanic like that as your mechanic, you gotta run brother!

3. Carry out steam washing of the engine bay monthly, or so. That would reduce the accumulation of oil spill build up on the engine area.
If you're scared of allowing your engine to be steam washed, you could hand wash it.
***use solvents such as petrol, or diesel fuel, to help remove oil spills , and apply a soapy
solution to wash the affected parts mildly.
NB: Ensure the cars ECU (commonly called brainbox), and ignition control modules are protected from from water sprays. Because they could foul the system, and cause you tremendous money fixing them.

WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOUR CAR CATCHES A FIRE
Well, I know some of us are so religious, when it comes to predictive maintenance, and stuffs like that. But I think its cool for you to have some tips on your hands, just in case, perhaps, your neighbours car catches fire, this is what you should do.

1. If you notice smoke billowing out of the car while driving, pull over off the road, to a safe place, and park.
Don't open the hood, because there's the risk the fire could spread further, because opening up the hood, creates more oxygen intake for the car. And that accelerates the fire.

2. Get out of the car as soon as possible, If you can.
Do not attempt to return back to the car to rescue your laptop, galaxy note 7, and even your jewelry. I think its better you're alive, than die in that fire. Doesn't make sense to me though. But maybe, that's not my business.

3. Disconnect the power source, if you can. Some cars, like Benz, BMW, Renaults cars don't have their batteries located at the front. They're at the rear, or at the front passenger seat. Be bold enough to disconnect the positive terminal in order to cut the current supply to the electrical systems.

4. If you're courageous enough, fight the fight with a recommended fire extinguisher class type recommended by your safety agency(FRSC). Could be a class B, or C. Depending on the specifications recommended.
5. Call the fire service immediately, if you've got no guts to stand against a fire.

CONCLUSION

Car fires don't just start like that.
And even if they do, take preventive maintenance checks very seriously. Try monitoring the kinds of jobs, and the safety/repair procedures your car mechanic employ fixing your precious car. If you don't, someday, you might just laugh-cry.

Hope this piece has enlightened someone on this platform.

Catch ya guys.
More, still coming.
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by RoadMozart(m): 3:14pm On Jan 17, 2023
diportivo:
Hardly a day u say

Iv not seen a car burn in years grin

BTW,pls what does "pull over" and "open the hood" mean?

What's "hood" in a car?
Pull over means to park while hood means bonnet
Re: Why A Car Catches Fire, And How You Can Stop Yours From Being The Next by diportivo: 10:49am On Jan 18, 2023
RoadMozart:

Pull over means to park while hood means bonnet


the context flew over your head



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