Pidggin:
See how devil has totally confused some people

How can nothing reasonable create something reasonable. Then we should have a world made of unreasonable matter but we have otherwise

Even if we are to believe nothing created something then something developed life, what is the need of spirituality?

How did reasoning and spirituality enter this world, according to athiesm?

Lennycool:

Lol Your post is funny

CHRISTIANITY
The belief that
Nothing created a complex and intelligent God
Yet that same nothing cannot create a complex universe as it is too complex.
Makes perfect sense.

hopefulLandlord:
theistic stupidity at it again

hopefulLandlord:
theistic stupidity at it again

Pidggin:


Haha you guys make me laugh. I exposed your folly but you had nothing intelligent to say rather you countered my points by quoting a belief system you do not understand

The basis of Christianity is not on science fiction but on the spiritual/supernatural.

I used logical reasoning to expose your folly because this is the premise of your reasoning. Ours goes beyond this. We believe in a pre-existing supernatural being who created the world. You on the other hand cannot use science to explain the existence of spirituality. Why do humans every where believe in something beyond them. Why do we believe in the supernatural? Even remote Indian tribes who have never had contact with the outside world believe in the supernatural, explain this based on scientific reasoning

Lennycool:

Religion and superstition are just humans trying to make sense of the world they knew little about. A Kenyan tribe believes that the sun and moon were once humans who flew up to the heavens, the Greeks believed lightning was from there God Zeus. Humans are curious Beings they could not live without knowing and since they lacked the proper tools and knowledge to investigate they made up their own stories.
Your argument is risible.
According to you, an intelligent and complex God doesn't need to be created. Then my question is that why would you think then that a complex universe filled with intelligent life needs to be created?
If God can exist without a creator then so can the universe.

Pidggin:


Fellow Christians, after raising my original questions over 24hrs ago and requesting a scientific explanation due to the premise of their belief system. It took the association of athiests on NL this long to give this response. Shouldn't their reply be based on science?

If they explain by science how nothing created substance, why can't they use the same science to explain man's curious awareness of higher spiritual authority?

Even native Indian tribes, deep within the Amazon believe in the supernatural. Tribes with minimum to no outside human contact perform rituals to gods they believe in. Is there any athiest on nairaland that can use scientific reasoning to explain this phenomenon?

Satan is indeed the ultimate deceiver

Pidggin:
See how devil has totally confused some people

How can nothing reasonable create something reasonable. Then we should have a world made of unreasonable matter but we have otherwise

Even if we are to believe nothing created something then something developed life, what is the need of spirituality?

How did reasoning and spirituality enter this world, according to athiesm?

Pidggin:


Fellow Christians, after raising my original questions over 24hrs ago and requesting a scientific explanation due to the premise of their belief system. It took the association of athiests on NL this long to give this response. Shouldn't their reply be based on science?

[s]if they explain by science how nothing created substance[/s], why can't they use the same science to explain man's curious awareness of higher spiritual authority?

Even native Indian tribes, deep within the Amazon believe in the supernatural. Tribes with minimum to no outside human contact perform rituals to gods they believe in. Is there any athiest on nairaland that can use scientific reasoning to explain this phenomenon?

Satan is indeed the ultimate deceiver

Lennycool:

I gave you an answer and you repeated the question, humans are naturally curious, they wanted to know why rain fell and how the sun rose, why the moon is bright and what the stars where. There was no way to know this hence they made up stories, but today science has an answer to all these questions. We no longer need these stories to explain our world. If the Christian God was real he would have inspired all the civilizations you just mentioned so they would know him and enter his heaven, but he didn't do this, he chose instead to remain with the Israelites till almost 200 years after the death of Christ (almost 4,000 years) before missionaries started spreading their gospel to other nations. So why would a God of mankind do this, to favour only one tribe with his holy word and leave the rest in darkness and sin? The Christian God is imaginary as all gods are, the Israelites made him for themselves and no one else.

donnffd:


Lol, i like you,you are reall funny, i would love for us to go on a date...

Pidggin:
See how devil has totally confused some people

How can nothing reasonable create something reasonable. Then we should have a world made of unreasonable matter but we have otherwise

Even if we are to believe nothing created something then something developed life, what is the need of spirituality?

How did reasoning and spirituality enter this world, according to athiesm?

Pidggin:


Why humans alone have this quest for knowledge? Afterall, according to medical science cetecean have the distinct advantage over primates in that their primary sense is the same as their primary means of communication, both are auditory, in primates the sense is visual and the primary means of communication auditory

Spindle neurons are also present in ceteceans which gives them the ability to communicate, reason, solve complex problems, understand and think.

What is the scientific rational behind man's quest for knowledge and why does man liken his perceptions of things he doesn't understand fully to the handiwork of something beyond human power?

Isn't it logical to believe that man's universal perceptions of these things being supernatural is true because of the uniformity of such beliefs or should we rely on science alone for explanation despite its many failings as to accurate proof of how e.g ceteceans developed into primates or how a mosquito through evolution became what, man?! Was I made from peanut butter after donkey years or what?

Pidggin:
See how devil has totally confused some people

neocortex:


Why should anyone take you serious when you don't even know what atheism means ?
Atheism is lack of belief in any god because there is no evidence for their existence nothing
more nothing less.

Next time base your questions on actual research not ignorant memes.

Pidggin:


I am not debating whether athiests believe in God or not, I am only pointing out the uniformity of beliefs in the world. Even if you don't believe in spirituality does this make you blind to the reality on ground?

Lennycool:


what's truly funny aside from your love of the illogical, is that there actually is a cat shark as suggested by your meme
Humans are smarter than any other animal on the planet, the closest intelligent specie is the dolphin. This superior intellect that made us thrive also made also create the concept of a God. I suggest rather than asking me, you should read up on things like evolution and the beginning if the universe, Wikipedia is a great place to start.

Pidggin:


Hehehehe but science says possible life may exists in other planets. Who knows, maybe one day scientists might discover heaven and hell and probably creatures that live within them

I asked for research answers to a simple question, why do humans all over the world believe in the existence of things beyond them? Your brother in science said it's due to man's quest for knowledge. I then brought it to his knowledge that man is not the most intelligent being on earth as scientists think ceteceans like Dolphins/whales are more intelligent. Why do they not seek knowledge like man does and why does man even in extremely remote tribes perceive the existence of the supernatural through the things he sees?

I am not debating whether athiests believe in God or not, I am only pointing out the uniformity of beliefs in the world. Even if you don't believe in spirituality does this make you blind to the reality on ground?

neocortex:


Why should anyone take you serious when you don't even know what atheism means ?
Atheism is lack of belief in any god because there is no evidence for their existence nothing
more nothing less.

Next time base your questions on actual research not ignorant memes.

Pidggin:


I live somewhere in the solar system dear

Pidggin:
See how devil has totally confused some people

How can nothing reasonable create something reasonable. Then we should have a world made of unreasonable matter but we have otherwise

Even if we are to believe nothing created something then something developed life, what is the need of spirituality?

How did reasoning and spirituality enter this world, according to athiesm?

Pidggin:


Why humans alone have this quest for knowledge? Afterall, according to medical science cetecean have the distinct advantage over primates in that their primary sense is the same as their primary means of communication, both are auditory, in primates the sense is visual and the primary means of communication auditory

Spindle neurons are also present in ceteceans which gives them the ability to communicate, reason, solve complex problems, understand and think.

What is the scientific rational behind man's quest for knowledge and why does man liken his perceptions of things he doesn't understand fully to the handiwork of something beyond human power?

Isn't it logical to believe that man's universal perceptions of these things being supernatural is true because of the uniformity of such beliefs or should we rely on science alone for explanation despite its many failings as to accurate proof of how e.g ceteceans developed into primates or how a mosquito through evolution became what, man?! Was I made from peanut butter after donkey years or what?

Pidggin:


Hehehehe but science says possible life may exists in other planets. Who knows, maybe one day scientists might discover heaven and hell and probably creatures that live within them

I asked for research answers to a simple question, why do humans all over the world believe in the existence of things beyond them? Your brother in science said it's due to man's quest for knowledge. I then brought it to his knowledge that man is not the most intelligent being on earth as scientists think ceteceans like Dolphins/whales are more intelligent. Why do they not seek knowledge like man does and why does man even in extremely remote tribes perceive the existence of the supernatural through the things he sees?

I am not debating whether athiests believe in God or not, I am only pointing out the uniformity of beliefs in the world. Even if you don't believe in spirituality does this make you blind to the reality on ground?

adoyi8:
You should know that all humans were together in Africa for a very long time, that was where humans fully evolved into homo sapiens before they migrated. And those native Americans in the amazon did not evolve there, they actually migrated from Asia. Humans have always been in contact with one another so they must have had the concept of god while they where together or shared it as they made contact (Just as christianity was shared with your parents(or grandparents)). The real question you should be asking is if there is one true God why doesnt he reveal himself to all people simultaneously. for example in 3000 BC while he was giving his ten commandments to moses on mount sinai why didnt he give it to an equivalent person in the Amazon and Africa. Do you think that your parents (or grandparents) would have become christians without coming in contact with other Christians. Will Africans without coming in contact with europeans figure out the name Christianity by themselves and accept Christ as their lord and personal saviour? I dont think so.

Pidggin:


Haha you guys make me laugh. I exposed your folly but you had nothing intelligent to say rather you countered my points by quoting a belief system you do not understand

The basis of Christianity is not on science fiction but on the spiritual/supernatural.

I used logical reasoning to expose your folly because this is the premise of your reasoning. Ours goes beyond this. We believe in a pre-existing supernatural being who created the world. You on the other hand cannot use science to explain the existence of spirituality. Why do humans every where believe in something beyond them. Why do we believe in the supernatural? Even remote Indian tribes who have never had contact with the outside world believe in the supernatural, explain this based on scientific reasoning

According to Everett, the Pirahã have no concept of a supreme spirit or god,[8] and they lost interest in Jesus when they discovered that Everett had never seen him. They require evidence based on personal experience for every claim made.

alchemist13:


First of all atheism is not based on science friction. It may surprise you to know that a lot of people become atheists by critical study of their "religion of birth" and/or philosophy than through the knowledge of science.

Have you heard of the [url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirah%C3%A3_people] Pirahã people?[/url] These aboriginal people do not even have a concept of god or a supreme being.

Pidggin:


Hehehehe, the tribe you quoted believe in spirits and they also believe that there is a spirit who lives in the cloud and has the power to kill them when he wants to lol