Welcome, Guest: Join Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 2,798,158 members, 6,685,989 topics. Date: Friday, 21 January 2022 at 06:47 PM

Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car - Politics (7) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Politics / Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car (8177 Views)

Adams Oshiomole Impose #70,000 Monthly Tax On Borehole Owners / Police To Begin Stop And Search On Roads And Highways Nationwide / Nigeria: Jonathan Launches New Tax Policy, Tax ID Numbe (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by yommyuk: 10:32pm On Oct 25, 2009
I LIVE IN U.K AND THINK MOST OF THOSE SUPPORTING THIS CRUDE IDEA HAVENT BEEN TO 9JA IN THE LAST DECADE
AND HAVE NO PLANS OF VISITING AS THEY R NOW SELF-IMPOSED ''CITIZENS''(OVERSTAYERS/ORI OLORI)


grin grin grin grin grin grin undecided
Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by babapupa: 10:36pm On Oct 25, 2009


One of them is to make sure that there is a sticker on every car, and they must be renewed every 2 years or 3 years, and before you can renew it, you make sure emission test has been done and passed.
This will help the environment and renewal, i am sure you know wont be for free, so govt can generate money with that.

2. They can impose property taxes on homes, and make sure that they are paid to the govt,  and if you refused to pay, your home or the revenue from it can be garnished, mind you the govt will have to put things in place to make sure that it works.

3. BRT as done by the govt, though, i haven't seen it, but heard some good things about it, so i think the govt needs to encourage people to use it, and make driving within lagos an expensive one, it will cut down on the polution, it will generate money for govt and at same time cut down on the traffic. . . all they need is probably some Toll going into the highlands.



#3 Sounds good and workable.

#2 Sounds good and I'm glad you inserted "govt will have to put things in place to make sure that it works"

#1 Sounds dead on arrival simply because of fraud via fake stickers and documentation. Bar coded stickers should be introduced instead because they're hard and almost impossible to duplicate. I know the state is into bar coding so it shouldn't be a problem reading the stickers with hand held readers.
Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by yommyuk: 10:43pm On Oct 25, 2009
think it does make sense cos there's a lot of inequality in the country. If I pay my taxes, why should other people not pay theirs since we all equally benefit for the infrastructure that is almost not there!

This is the point that is not getting thru to some people on this thread.
We are all expecting Fashola to maintain the projects he had begun. Where will the money come from?
Let everybody pay their dues so that when u are driving in your imported Jeeps on a good roadS, ur conscience will say YES I AM PART OF THIS.
DO UR OWN BIT. sad
Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by Fhemmmy: 10:47pm On Oct 25, 2009
babapupa:



#3 Sounds good and workable.

#2 Sounds good and I'm glad you inserted "govt will have to put things in place to make sure that it works"

#1 Sounds dead on arrival simply because of fraud via fake stickers and documentation. Bar coded stickers should be introduced instead because they're hard and almost impossible to duplicate. I know the state is into bar coding so it shouldn't be a problem reading the stickers with hand held readers.

i agree with you that there will be lots of fraud on this, however, if the govt really wanna make it work, they will only have to invest into it and make it work, like make sure the sticker is done in such a way that no matter when, the cops can see them, and let the cops have systems in the cruisers and that will link up to a main database, and they can easily check the info and the stickers.
Doing the database will surely help o even fight crime. . . . so with lil help and effort, a lot can be accomplished.
I know Fashola has good ideas and he is smart to make it happen, only might need some good people that are willing to make it work.
Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by Fhemmmy: 11:12pm On Oct 25, 2009
yommyuk:


This is the point that is not getting thru to some people on this thread.
We are all expecting Fashola to maintain the projects he had begun. Where will the money come from?
Let everybody pay their dues so that when u are driving in your imported Jeeps on a good roadS, your conscience will say YES I AM PART OF THIS.
DO your OWN BIT. sad

You made a point, but u forgot to add the part that, there is no way someone cld have imported a vehicle without paying taxes, or the jeep was attached to a mail and the owner just downloaded it? it was brought into the nation and was cleared at the port and i would expect that people must have paid their duties as required by the law.
Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by DaMayor1: 2:31am On Oct 26, 2009
yommyuk:

think it does make sense cos there's a lot of inequality in the country. If I pay my taxes, why should other people not pay theirs since we all equally benefit for the infrastructure that is almost not there!

This is the point that is not getting thru to some people on this thread.
We are all expecting Fashola to maintain the projects he had begun. Where will the money come from?
Let everybody pay their dues so that when u are driving in your imported Jeeps on a good roadS, your conscience will say YES I AM PART OF THIS.
DO your OWN BIT. sad


Bros/Chick, u dey read wetin u dey type? u admit that the infrastructure doesnt exist, yet u want people to keep paying taxes without asking questions. Just like telling me to open my house for robbers to come in just because u were robbed. for the 100th time, i repeat, Nobody is against paying taxes here, but were just cautious of this desperate attempt to intimidate Lagosians to contribute to AC's 2011 campaign money, and u should too.
Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by yommyuk: 6:50am On Oct 26, 2009
u admit that the infrastructure doesnt exist, yet u want people to keep paying taxes without asking questions.

I agree the infrastructure is not there but the Govt must start from somewhere. Probably what the Govt should start doing is letting
the citizens of Lagos know the objectives behind this required exercise and be more transparent in regards to implementing such
objectives. Therefore if that is done will u still advocate non compliance.

I also agree that the Govt of Lagos must find other means of generating funds and makie sure that the Elites and politicians also adhere
to this exercise. Is this impossible? probably not.

Lets us stop round in circles singing NO AGREEMENT TODAY! NO AGREEMENT TOMMORROW and join forces together with the govt to
make Lagos a better place.

Remember the adage "what can u do for your country" Even in the developed world, the tax receipts are sometimes mismanaged e.g bailing out banks who still pay out huges bonuses to city guys. Does this make the citizens of the country stop paying up. ABSOLUTELY NOT.
Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by DJNiyi(m): 9:59am On Oct 26, 2009
yommyuk:

think it does make sense cos there's a lot of inequality in the country. If I pay my taxes, why should other people not pay theirs since we all equally benefit for the infrastructure that is almost not there!

This is the point that is not getting thru to some people on this thread.
We are all expecting Fashola to maintain the projects he had begun. Where will the money come from?
Let everybody pay their dues so that when u are driving in your imported Jeeps on a good roadS, your conscience will say YES I AM PART OF THIS.
DO your OWN BIT. sad


A sensible government should focus not on eliminating "inequality", but on eliminating poverty. They are not the same thing. The former is a socialist/communist ideal whilst the latter strives to move more people into the middle class.

How do you do this? Jobs
How do you create jobs? Support businesses and encourage entrepreneurship
You can do it by decreasing taxes not increasing it.

Bridges, new roads etc can be (should be) built by private sector partners if you concession toll rights to them. You can even structure the deal such that in exchange for collecting tolls on the main arterial/highway roads, they must build and maintan a number of smaller non-tolled collector/local roads.

As many have noted, the government's strategy smacks of double-taxation, and implies that only the government can solve our problems. Remember the goal is to reduce proverty by creating jobs and only businesses can create jobs not the government.
Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by netotse(m): 10:54am On Oct 26, 2009
DJNiyi:

A sensible government should focus not on eliminating "inequality", but on eliminating poverty. They are not the same thing. The former is a socialist/communist ideal whilst the latter strives to move more people into the middle class.

How do you do this? Jobs
How do you create jobs? Support businesses and encourage entrepreneurship
You can do it by decreasing taxes not increasing it.

Bridges, new roads etc can be (should be) built by private sector partners if you concession toll rights to them. You can even structure the deal such that in exchange for collecting tolls on the main arterial/highway roads, they must build and maintan a number of smaller non-tolled collector/local roads.

As many have noted, the government's strategy smacks of double-taxation, and implies that only the government can solve our problems. Remember the goal is to reduce proverty by creating jobs and only businesses can create jobs not the government.

but isnt it the govt's job to create an enabling atmosphere for the businesses?

without that atmosphere, we would end up replicating the crap in the GSM sector.
Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by DJNiyi(m): 11:10am On Oct 26, 2009
netotse:

but isnt it the govt's job to create an enabling atmosphere for the businesses?
without that atmosphere, we would end up replicating the crap in the GSM sector.

The crap in the GSM sector i.e. dropped calls, poor network quality, inability to migrate phone numbers across networks etc is caused by poor govt regulation. It won't be fixed by increasing taxes or a state sponsored mobile network. Remember NITEL/MTEL?

Creating an enabling atmosphere is brought about by (1) enforcing property rights, (2) creating a secure environment, and (3) developing infrastructure.
(1) and (2) are for the govt to focus upon and solve
(3) can be solved with private sector partnership not increasing the tax burden.

Empower us by getting out of our way, not increasing our obstacles. You can't even build a road for free without settling the govt!
Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by netotse(m): 11:32am On Oct 26, 2009
@DjNiyi
k. . .i get you

B.T.W the crap actually also includes the fact that we pay through our noses and the excuse is that the business environment in naija is crap
Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by DJNiyi(m): 11:45am On Oct 26, 2009
netotse:

@DjNiyi
k. . .i get you
B.T.W the crap actually also includes the fact that we pay through our noses and the excuse is that the business environment in naija is crap

I understand what you mean and that's the more reason why the Lagos State govt should focus on removing the legal hurdles that prevent it (or any private sector operator) from generating and distributing power to industries in the state.

This focus on increasing taxes without measuring the economic impact on consumption and job creation is dangerous.

Even if we accept that the tax proceeds are being utilised as best as they can (which is doubtful given the ridiculous commission paid to Alpha Beta Consulting), it is important to determine that every N1 paid as tax is not better spent by taxpayers as opposed to the government.
Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by netotse(m): 11:57am On Oct 26, 2009
DJNiyi:

I understand what you mean and that's the more reason why the Lagos State govt should focus on removing the legal hurdles that prevent it (or any private sector operator) from generating and distributing power to industries in the state.

This focus on increasing taxes without measuring the economic impact on consumption and job creation is dangerous.

Even if we accept that the tax proceeds are being utilised as best as they can (which is doubtful given the ridiculous commission paid to Alpha Beta Consulting), it is important to determine that every N1 paid as tax is not better spent by taxpayers as opposed to the government
.

the bolded is true sha, and FYI the LASG has precious little to do with the legal hurdles that prevent the generation and distribution of power its more of a FG thing
Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by DJNiyi(m): 12:06pm On Oct 26, 2009
netotse:

the bolded is true sha, and FYI the LASG has precious little to do with the legal hurdles that prevent the generation and distribution of power its more of a FG thing

Bro, I agree with you. That's why on one hand, we need to support them in increasing their national footprint and influence in the National Assembly, and on the other hand, hold them to account in Lagos to make sure that they don't become an anti-people, anti economic growth party. If the latter happens, we'll lose on both fronts.
Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by kidsam: 1:03pm On Oct 26, 2009
Some people just see it as if we don't want to pay tax, what i am trying to say is that we should be taxed as sensible people and not fools, or rather we should not be bullied and extorted in the name of tax. Gbam.
Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by mamagee3(f): 12:24am On Feb 13, 2010
One would expect Lagos to be a perfect place to live in
after hearing all the good things fashola put in place
but the reverse is the case.
Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by olafolarin(m): 1:04am On Feb 13, 2010
mama-gee:

One would expect Lagos to be a perfect place to live in
after hearing all the good things fashola put in place
but the reverse is the case.



I just came back from Lagos and witnessed Fashola's stride which is really comendable.
Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by biina: 1:21am On Feb 13, 2010
The tax is BS and should be resisted.
Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by CILondon: 9:30pm On Mar 27, 2010
Black men deserve to be stopped and searched, whatever country they are living in.

http://www.lifeinbiglondon.com/2010/03/27/black-men-you-deserve-to-get-stopped-by-the-police/
Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by ib612(m): 5:59pm On Mar 28, 2010
This issue of tax, as adopted by the people in charge, in Lagos is a total failure. It appears to me that the guys in charge are just using every means possible to harass and subject the people of Lagos and visitors alike to ridicule. They are using the machinery's of force to cajole or arm twist people into paying taxes.

Taxes are meant to be paid; yes. The ways these guys at Alausa are doing it is contrary to all norms and laws of taxation.

You can't tax a car. Taxes, levies, and fees are paid when a car is been registered. Individual taxes are not the same as user fees or levies on items such as cars, t.v and the likes.

[b]The contention, as written by the poster, is that the guy at Alausa wrote to collect income tax based on their valuation of the car from the owner. A car you drive has nothing whatsoever to do with how your income is accessed. If i should buy a car for someone as a gift, whether it's worth 10k or 10m naira tells nothing if that person is actually earning income or not. They may be aged or retirees. It therefore follows that levies, taxes on cars are effected at the time of registration.[/b]We should all make bold our condemnation of the ways and means the government of Lagos wants to be collecting taxes. If it's illegal or contrary to the law of the state, it should not be enforced.
Re: Lagos Begins Stop And Search Tax Policy. Slams N0.62m Tax On Luxury Car by realkola: 6:37pm On Mar 28, 2010
[size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt]
IM AN INFORMATION MARKETER.IM GALD TO LET YOU KNOW THAT U CAN GET 180,000 NAIRA EVERY MONTH ON 2,000,000 NAIRA FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE IT FIXED WITH A PARTICULAR MICROFINACE BANK.I WILL GIVE YOU ALL THE INFORMATION FOR THIS 9 PERCENT INTEREST RATE ON ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU FIXED WITH THEM.THEY ARE RELIABLE I HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THEM FOR A YEAR NOW.I WILL COLLECT 50,000 NAIRA CASH BEFORE I RELEASE THE INFORMATION.CALL TUNDE[/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size] 08037717482.

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (Reply)

Save Nigeria Group Debunks Pastor Bakare's Suspension Story / Imo State And The Hand Of Midas / Buhari’s Cabinet: We Don’t Owe You Explanations On Delay, APC Tells PDP

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2022 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 172
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.