omonnakoda:

Your logic is funny ,the names are more common in Igboland therefore they are more likely to be Igbo
Bamidele example is totally irrelevant. People may name their children for sentimental reasons but the names of towns are a more significant and serious matter

Anyone who has a map and nothing to do will find place names across Nigeria that can be found elsewhere, The logical conclusion is the words though sounding similar have different meanings in different languages rather than your bizarre conclusion that the names must be Igbo BECAUSE they are more common an asertion that is not only illogical but also unsubstantiated. Your line of reasoning is desperate . One that will do anything,say anything,believe anything as long as it aligns with your predetermined conclusions

Well, those 4 town names are obviously absent in Igala land but present all over Igboland. It doesn't take any soothsayer to interpret the implication for you.

Your opinion anyway does not change their Igbo names and meaning. It's that simple.

And despite the few occurrences of similar town names across linguistic borders, majority of town names in different linguistic zones remain unique to those areas and are indicative of origins in that area.

bigfrancis21:
It was conducted by a foreign organization, the World Health Organization (WHO) and given their known high level of personal investment in research, I would take their findings over the half-baked and biased articles written by pro-igala black people claiming Igala majority, when an overwhelming number of articles say they are minority, any day anytime. I am sure that of the foreign organization must have been more thorough and well done.

Isn't it funny how the only articles that claim Etteh as Igala majority are 'Igalatic' articles by Igala people? How come no article by a non-Igala claims Etteh to be Igala majority??

Everyone can see how you have been dodging the questions posed to you. So in your view, foreign organisations are infallible? If you want us to believe that the contents of the study you cited is accurate, then provide all the data and information that is conspicuously missing from the study. Without factual evidence, it would be asking a lot of other people to accept the study you cited, as authentic. So please do not substitute your belief (which is highly subjective and lacks empirical evidence) for factual evidence.

We do not know your foreign organisation. Neither can we ascertain the level of research they have done, so we cannot accept their findings as the gospel truth on the Ette community.

laudate:


Everyone can see how you have been dodging the questions posed to you. So in your view, foreign organisations are infallible? If you want us to believe that the contents of the study you cited is accurate, then provide all the data and information that is conspicuously missing from the study. Without factual evidence, it would be asking a lot of other people to accept the study you cited, as authentic. So please do not substitute your belief (which is highly subjective and lacks empirical evidence) for factual evidence.

We do not know your foreign organisation. Neither can we ascertain the level of research they have done, so we cannot accept their findings as the gospel truth on the Ette community.

Guy, I would take a research done by the World Health Organization (WHO) any day anytime over some biased Igalatic articles written on the internet.

And yes, they are very little likely to be infallible given the presence of well-seasoned researchers and employees that work for them.

bigfrancis21:
Guy, I would take a research by the World Health Organization (WHO) any day anytime over some biased Igalatic articles written on the internet.

And yes, they are very little likely to be infallible given the presence of well-seasoned researchers and employees that work for them.

Oh, where is the proof that it was conducted by the World Health Organisation? It was not stated in your earlier post. You just modified it. WHO relies on consultants to carry out research for them. And like I have been asking for the umpteenth time, where is the data in their report that shows or proves that Ette is mostly Igbo speaking? Provide proof, please!!

laudate:


Oh, where is the proof that it was conducted by the World Health Organisation? It was not stated in your earlier post. You just modified it. WHO relies on consultants to carry out research for them. And like I have been asking for the umpteenth time, where is the data in their report that shows or proves that Ette is mostly Igbo speaking? Provide proof, please!!

Are you blind? Read the link of the article, gotten from the WHO website itself: http://www.who.int/tdr/publications/documents/comdti_3.pdf

Moreover, like I said before, I would take a research done by the World Health Organization (WHO) any day anytime over some biased Igalatic articles written on the internet.

And yes, they are very little likely to be infallible given the presence of well-seasoned researchers and employees that work for them.

Even their 'consultants' I bet will do a much better job than many black 'researchers'.

bigfrancis21:
Are you blind? Read the link of the article, gotten from the WHO website itself: http://www.who.int/tdr/publications/documents/comdti_3.pdf

No, sir. You are the blind one. I have asked you the same question over and over again. But you are just dodging the issue. There is zero data to show that Ette is predominantly Igbo-speaking while a few speak Igala. The writer of that article just made an assertion. What was the sample size that was surveyed, that caused them to arrive at that conclusion? For the umpteenth time, where are the figures? Where is the data?

laudate:


No, sir. You are the blind one. I have asked you the same question over and over again. But you are just dodging the issue. There is zero data to show that Ette is predominantly Igbo-speaking while a few speak Igala. The writer of that article just made an assertion. What was the sample size that was surveyed, that caused them to arrive at that conclusion? For the umpteenth time, where are the figures? Where is the data?

Hahaha. Etteh is not an Igala majority community. Proven by the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION.

The onus is on you to prove that Etteh is not an Igbo-speaking majority town using a credible source, no biased Igalatic website nor half-baked research is accepted.

Or better still, quietly go to sleep and lick your sores slowly.

Case closed.

bigfrancis21:


Well, those 4 town names are obviously absent in Igala land but present all over Igboland. It doesn't take any soothsayer to interpret the implication for you.

Your opinion anyway does not change their Igbo names and meaning. It's that simple.

And despite the few occurrences of similar town names across linguistic borders, majority of town names in different linguistic zones remain unique to those areas and are indicative of origins in that area.

Your assertions may seem pleasing to you but they are totally devoid of logic. They are simply ideas that you would like to be true

bigfrancis21:
Hahaha. Etteh is not an Igala majority community. Proven by the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION.

The onus is on you to prove that Etteh is not an Igbo-speaking majority town using a credible source, no biased Igalatic website nor half-baked is accepted.

Or better still, quietly go to sleep and lick your sores slowly.

Case closed.

Sorry, everyone can now see through your hollow rhetoric. The World Health Organisation did NOT prove anything. You are hiding behind an incomplete WHO article which is not detailed, and lacks appropriate data to back their assertions with respect to the prevalent language spoken by the Ette community.

My guess is that the person hired to conduct that study, did not bother to dig deep to find out relevant details about the ethnic composition of the community or its languages. He just heard a group of speakers congregated somewhere, speaking a particular language and jumped to conclusions. He might have even engaged an interpreter. Who knows?

His focus was on the prevalence of onchocerciasis, and not the ethnic composition of Ette community. The language spoken would not have a major impact on his work, since he was looking at health factors. Which was why he did not bother to conduct further checks on the languages spoken within the community.

But you are the one now trying to use his lack of rigorous analysis on the linguistic patterns of the Ette people, to justify your claims simply because the work was pasted on WHO's website. What a joker, you are. Remind me never to believe any sweeping claims you ever make on NL again. When the WHO decides to publish an in-depth study on the demographics and languages spoken by the inhabitants of the Ette community, backed by relevant facts and data, then we would believe your story. Case closed.

omonnakoda:
Your assertions may seem pleasing to you but they are totally devoid of logic. They are simply ideas that you would like to be true

Well you have not contrubted any factual piece of evidence here so far, instead seeking to puncture my posts and write-ups with your feeble punches. Up till now, nothing factual has come from you since the last 3 to 5 pages of this thread.

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laudate:


Sorry, everyone can now see through your hollow rhetoric. The World Health Organisation did NOT prove anything. You are hiding behind an incomplete WHO article which is not detailed, and lacks appropriate data to back their assertions with respect to the prevalent language spoken by the Ette community.

My guess is that the person hired to conduct that study, did not bother to dig deep to find out relevant details about the ethnic composition of the community or its languages. He just heard a group of speakers congregated somewhere, speaking a particular language and jumped to conclusions. He might have even engaged an interpreter. Who knows?

His focus was on the prevalence of onchocerciasis, and not the ethnic composition of Ette community. The language spoken would not have a major impact on his work, since he was looking at health factors. Which was why he did not bother to conduct further checks on the languages spoken within the community.

But you are the one now trying to use his lack of rigorous analysis on the linguistic patterns of the Ette people, to justify your claims simply because the work was pasted on WHO's website. What a joker, you are. Remind me never to believe any sweeping claims you ever make on NL again. When the WHO decides to publish an in-depth study on the demographics and languages spoken by the inhabitants of the Ette community, backed by relevant facts and data, then we would believe your story. Case closed.

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Trash. 100 sentences written, not one intellectual statement spoken.

One more time view the article below by the World Health Organization, this time rather slowly as you digest the information. Don't forget to grab some spicy popcorn while you do so. *munch munch*

Case closed.

bigfrancis21:


Well you have not contrubted any factual piece of evidence here so far, instead seeking to puncture my posts and write-ups with your feeble punches. Up till now, nothing factual has come from you since the last 3 to 5 pages of this thread.

Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat (the burden of proof is on the one who declares, not on one who denies)

omonnakoda:
Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat (the burden of proof is on the one who declares, not on one who denies)

Well, that is in reference to crime and law. And not in reference to history and anthropology.

The presumption of innocence, sometimes referred to by the Latin expression Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat (the burden of proof is on the one who declares, not on one who denies), is the principle that one is considered innocent unless proven guilty. So if you must speak English, speak it appropriately.

bigfrancis21:
Trash. 100 sentences written, not one intellectual statement spoken.

One more time view the article below by the World Health Organization, this time rather slowly as you digest the information. Don't forget to grab some spicy popcorn while you do so. *munch munch*

Case closed.

No, you are the one recycling trash, all through your posts. In fact, my comments hurt you so much that you had to strike through the entire post because you could not face the truth it contained.

It has exposed your lack of facts and shown the world that you are just pretending to be an intellectual, when in actual fact you are a dilettante.

The section of the WHO article you quoted, grouped both Nike community and Ette together, which was why the person conducting the study made the blanket assertion about Igbo speakers, being prevalent.

Nike has a much larger community of indigenous Igbo speakers, so if grouped with Ette, the Igbo speakers would appear to dominate the whole lot, than if the language patterns of Ette community had been considered on its own.

Now we can all see where the researcher made the error. And that is the same error you have been using to justify your flawed theory about the Ette community. How sad.

bigfrancis21:


Well, that is in reference to crime and law. And not in reference to history and anthropology.

The presumption of innocence, sometimes referred to by the Latin expression Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat (the burden of proof is on the one who declares, not on one who denies), is the principle that one is considered innocent unless proven guilty. So if you must speak English, speak it appropriately.

Not crime and law but LOGIC which is the core of philosophy . It is the basis of the NULL HYPOTHESIS. No one can be asked to prove there are no green men on planet MARS. It is for he who claims there are to provide evidence. It is an established norm in Logic which clearly you have no grounding in. You take your inspiration from Fufu. The more you consume the more you assert and the more certain you feel

omonnakoda:
Not crime and law but LOGIC which is the core of philosophy . It is the basis of the NULL HYPOTHESIS. No one can be asked to prove there are no green men on planet MARS. It is for he who claims there are to provide evidence. It is an established norm in Logic which clearly you have no grounding in. You take your inspiration from Fufu. The more you consume the more you assert and the more certain you feel

With reference to the comments in bold type ....ROFLMAO!! LWKMD!!

laudate:


ROFLMAO!! LWKMD!!

Have you not heard of Fufu intoxication or Akpu Toxaemia

bigfrancis21:


Well, that is in reference to crime and law. And not in reference to history and anthropology.

The presumption of innocence, sometimes referred to by the Latin expression Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat (the burden of proof is on the one who declares, not on one who denies), is the principle that one is considered innocent unless proven guilty. So if you must speak English, speak it appropriately.

This is the Koko

Semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof#Holder_of_the_burden

omonnakoda:
Have you not heard of Fufu intoxication or Akpu Toxaemia

E don do, I beg! E don tay wey I don laugh dis kind heavy laugh....

laudate:


No, you are the one recycling trash, all through your posts. In fact, my comments hurt you so much that you had to strike through the entire post because you could not face the truth it contained.

It has exposed your lack of facts and shown the world that you are just pretending to be an intellectual, when in actual fact you are a dilettante.

The section of the WHO article you quoted, grouped both Nike community and Ette together, which was why the person conducting the study made the blanket assertion about Igbo speakers, being prevalent.

Nike has a much larger community of indigenous Igbo speakers, so if grouped with Ette, the Igbo speakers would appear to dominate the whole lot, than if the language patterns of Ette community had been considered on its own.

Now we can all see where the researcher made the error. And that is the same error you have been using to justify your flawed theory about the Ette community. How sad.

Long story. Fact still remains that Etteh is in Enugu state, not Kogi state, and has a lot of native Igbo speakers as corroborated by the WHO. Your writing of long epistles here are your waste of time and energy. Again, the Igalas are NOT a majority in Etteh. No non-igalatic source has said they are a majority. So shall it be.

Case closed.

omonnakoda:
Not crime and law but LOGIC which is the core of philosophy . It is the basis of the NULL HYPOTHESIS. No one can be asked to prove there are no green men on planet MARS. It is for he who claims there are to provide evidence. It is an established norm in Logic which clearly you have no grounding in. You take your inspiration from Fufu. The more you consume the more you assert and the more certain you feel

You take your delusions from gbegiri ati amala. Explains why you failed to contribute one intellectual fact to this thread.

omonnakoda:


This is the Koko

Semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof#Holder_of_the_burden

Lmao. You are quoting wikipedia as evidence. It is known in the field of research that wikipedia is not a good source for research. Like I said before, your level of so-called education is half-baked.

Meanwhile, Igbo DNA testing continues here in the Americas. Thanks to the project by one of our own. Ada Chinyere Njoku, an African American Igbo. *dresses up and leaves for the gym to return later to finish off these trolls*

bigfrancis21:


Not all Igalas migrated from Ida. There are 2 sources of origin that make up the Igala stock: the atta origin and the eri origin from Anambra state. For example, the igalamela/odolu people. Majority are not descendants of Abule Ejeh.

explain to me.....ibaji...migrated from where and ....i understand....not all igalas but all i know...i am full blodded igala despite the fact tat my fore father settled in the river niger banks...


from time.....maybe other igalas land..mixed with igbos...or other neighboring tribes..but the fact is they are still igalas


and pls....Ette....arguement shuld stop.....all i know igala and idomas are spoken there.....igbos are majority there....i must confess.......ok....but i am also sure igalas and idomas there have their chiefs....

look igbos and igalas and idomas are blood .....but majority of igbos are bigot....if not igalas...will not have any problem to always call igbos brothers

Revolva:



explain to me.....ibaji...migrated from where and ....i understand....not all igalas but all i know...i am full blodded igala despite the fact tat my fore father settled in the river niger banks...


from time.....maybe other igalas land..mixed with igbos...or other neighboring tribes..but the fact is they are still igalas


and pls....Ette....arguement shuld stop.....all i know igala and idomas are spoken there.....igbos are majority there....i must confess.......ok....but i am also sure igalas and idomas there have their chiefs....

look igbos and igalas and idomas are blood .....but majority of igbos are bigot....if not igalas...will not have any problem to always call igbos brothers

Thanks for this honest post of yours.

The amount of misinformation on nairaland can be quite alarming.

Ok, according to Igbo traditional history. One of the sons of Eri, Onoja, moved northwards to found Igala people. This is still reflective in an Igbo saying that if all the Igbos are finished off today, some Igbo still remain in Igala, most especially in reference to Igalas in the south with Igbo ancestry/influence. Now from my better understanding Onoja may not have been the founder of all Igalas but instead some part of the Igalas, especially southern Igala. Some towns in Igala south point their origins to Igboland.

The Igbo origin of some Igala towns is often left out in Igala historical accounts, partially due to attempts since the civil war by many tribes to disassociate from ethnic relationship with the Igbo. However, it does not telll the true story. Southern Igalas and some Northern Igbo towns share a lot of back-and-forth migrational relationships. That's the truth.

What do you know about Akpanya town?

bigfrancis21:


Lmao. You are quoting wikipedia as evidence. It is known in the field of research that wikipedia is not a good source for research. Like I said before, your level of so-called education is half-baked.

Meanwhile, Igbo DNA testing continues here in the Americas. Thanks to the project by one of our own. Ada Chinyere Njoku, an African American Igbo. *dresses up and leaves for the gym to return later to finish off these trolls*

It is not "EVIDENCE" do not be ridiculous . I am just quoting a very common aphorism that is know to people that did not waste their time in school which can be found in hundreds of places outside Wikipedia. All you have to offer is Fufu inspired "wisdom" and then abuse.
Do you know the meaning of the word "evidence" ? I have nothing to prove so why offer evidence. Am I making any absurd claims? You are the one offering YouTube videos and Vanguard articles as evidence.

Your claims ,your burden, Prove your claims

Bigfrancis1. Good job puting the Afonjas in check in my absence. Job well done.

It's a bit funny that two Afonjas are carrying this issue on head like gala, even more than the Igalas themselves here. Tells you alot about these people.

bigfrancis21 ma kwa akwukwo o. if I grow up I will like to be like you lol

you want to teach me now about my village

bigfrancis21:


Nope, both online and oral sources say that Igbo is the spoken language in akpanya and the natives do not speak Igala except they travel out of their village into the Igala interior. The Igbo language spoken there is not likely due to intermarriage but due to the fact that the people there are most likely Igbos by ancestry.

bigfrancis21:


Ok. The meaning comes from Idoma right?

How much percentage similar would you say the dialect of Idoma he spoke is close to yours? 10%, 25%?

not up to 10% shaa

omonnakoda:
It is not "EVIDENCE" do not be ridiculous . I am just quoting a very common aphorism that is know to people that did not waste their time in school which can be found in hundreds of places outside Wikipedia. All you have to offer is Fufu inspired "wisdom" and then abuse.
Do you know the meaning of the word "evidence" ? I have nothing to prove so why offer evidence. Am I making any absurd claims? You are the one offering YouTube videos and Vanguard articles as evidence.

Your claims ,your burden, Prove your claims

You have been noticed. Now will you run off and quit spamming my mentions!

This thread is a typical example of what is called MUCH ADO OVER NOTHING.

bigfrancis21:


Thanks for this honest post of yours.

The amount of misinformation on nairaland can be quite alarming.

Ok, according to Igbo traditional history. One of the sons of Eri, Onoja, moved northwards to found Igala people. This is still reflective in an Igbo saying that if all the Igbos are finished off today, some Igbo still remain in Igala, most especially in reference to Igalas in the south with Igbo ancestry/influence. Now from my better understanding Onoja may not have been the founder of all Igalas but instead some part of the Igalas, especially southern Igala. Some towns in Igala south point their origins to Igboland.

The Igbo origin of some Igala towns is often left out in Igala historical accounts, partially due to attempts since the civil war by many tribes to disassociate from ethnic relationship with the Igbo. However, it does not telll the true story. Southern Igalas and some Northern Igbo towns share a lot of back-and-forth migrational relationships. That's the truth.

What do you know about Akpanya town?

thank you very much...ok

wellsaid......not all these ignoramus here